Palin, What kind of Mother Is She?

A bad mother? Down-syndrome kid doesnt cut it for me. That has to do with her beliefs. Whether you believe in abortion or not, you do not abandon your child when it has just been born. Especially one with down-syndrome. You see, I'm a family values voter. My promising young sister (captain of her soccer team, accepted to MIT and Yale, also died from a back alley abortion. Our family did not have health insurance, and she did this without our family's knowledge.

Being the case that McCain over-exploits his POW status, and Palin (unlike Biden, and even McCain) exploited her son's Iraq war service (which you're not supposed to do for the safety of the troops), she will exploit her new-born baby with down syndrome to impose upon all women her views on the right to choose.

Well like McCain can afford 10 houses because of his auspicious circumstances, Palin could afford to have and leave behind 5 children, including a sick new born baby with down syndrome. She could afford health insurance, afford 5 kids. My sister couldn't. She was shamed into having a back alley abortion so as not to burden my parents, and this is what happened. She died.

This below is representative of emails from several women about the choice of Palin, from even Hillary hold-outs:

 

No sooner did my best friend hear about the Sarah Palin pick did I receive an e-mail from her.  It said simply: "Sarah Palin is a Bad Mother!"

   I was at work but could not resist giving her a call to follow up.  She told me that she was watching CNN and heard that Ms. Palin had 5 children and that one was only 4 months old and born with Down Syndrome.  "How in the name of GOD, can she even think about leaving her child or taking her child on the campaign trail for 70 days?"  She was indignant.

   Let me tell you why My best friend Liz matters.  She is 37 years old and Catholic.

   She has three children under the age of 9 years old. She lives in Reston, VA (the suburbs of D.C.).  She is a registered Independent and has voted both Democratic and Republican.  She is a stay at home mother and was a RABID Hillary Clinton supporter.  She was considering staying home instead of voting this November.  I had been trying to convince her of the FOLLY of this stance.  Anyway...

   I guess that McCain feels that Liz is just the demographic that he could poach with the selection of Palin.  Instead, Liz tells me that there is "no way that those two people (McCain/Palin) should be in charge of her kids' future."  Today she decided to vote for Barack.



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Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (2.00 / 4)

If it was a male candidate, no one would bat an eye.

Story's a non-starter and not helpful.


by TCQuad on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:19:28 PM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

Somewhat true. If it was a man people would have less of a problem with it. Still, I've heard anti-Obama people mention that he "exploits" his kids, etc. Palin is obviously behaving similarly.

I think a lot of women are going to feel that Palin should be taking care of her kid in addition to thinking she is not qualified to be VP. It may not be P.C. but women will think it and vote against the ticket.


by Lolis on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:26:29 PM EST
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Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

She got one magazine cover for People. I think Obama got two, even though they were at the same shoot. I wonder if she will make the same decision.


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by vcalzone on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:57:29 PM EST
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Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

agreed! i'm getting pretty spooked by some of the avenues of attack on Palin going on here today. some are getting downright sexist. obama got it right on -- there are some hair(brained)trigger reactions going on in the campaign and his supporters should chill a bit on this one. he impressed me on that one -- his supporters here today, not so much.


by swissffun on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:38:03 PM EST
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Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (2.00 / 3)

We have no business telling any candidate how to raise his/her children.  Just wrong.


by mady on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:24:18 PM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

You're right about that. We don't have to. The evangelicals will do this work for us. This morning on faux news they read an e mail from a MAN saying he will no longer be voting for McCain because Palin should be at home with her children NOT running for V.P. I kid you not.


by venician on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:29:28 AM EST
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Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (2.00 / 2)

Um, so attacking families is okay now? I thought that was off-limits. Bad taste


by Chelsea in 2020 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:24:38 PM EST

She is worse than Bush regarding the environment! (none / 0)

"Dear Defenders of Wildlife member,

A few hours ago, the news broke that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin has been selected by Sen. John McCain as the vice presidential candidate for the Republican ticket.

As a Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund supporter, you are no doubt aware of Governor Palin's dismal record, from her staunch support for special interests and Big Oil to her terrible assault on wolves and other wildlife.

As much of the nation wonders just who Sarah Palin is, I wanted to pass along my statement that I've just released.

Please read it and pass it along to everyone you know.

Thanks for your continued support"

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Defenders of Wildlife
August 29, 2008

Shocking Choice by John McCain

WASHINGTON-- Senator John McCain just announced his choice for running mate:  Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska.  To follow is a statement by Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund.

"Senator McCain's choice for a running mate is beyond belief. By choosing Sarah Palin, McCain has clearly made a decision to continue the Bush legacy of destructive environmental policies.

"Sarah Palin, whose husband works for BP (formerly British Petroleum), has repeatedly put special interests first when it comes to the environment. In her scant two years as governor, she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska's coasts, and put special interests above science. Ms. Palin has made it clear through her actions that she is unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming. Her most recent effort has been to sue the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list, putting Big Oil before sound science. As unbelievable as this may sound, this actually puts her to the right of the Bush administration.  

"This is Senator McCain's first significant choice in building his executive team and it's a bad one. It has to raise serious doubts in the minds of voters about John McCain's commitment to conservation, to addressing the impacts of global warming and to ensuring our country ends its dependency on oil."

###

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by mcctx on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:32:04 PM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (2.00 / 1)

One thing which is wrong, is she or someone acting for her is pushing the tiny Downs Syndrome baby all over everything, already making it something which makes it potentially disastrous to challenge her doing anything in particular. Phooey. We have finally gotten rid of "Noun plus verb plus 9/11" for Rudi and are on the way to eliminating 'noun plus verb plus POW' for McCain. The last thing we need is "noun plus verb plus Downs Syndrome baby." With photos. That's just not right.


by Christy1947 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:53:37 PM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

What the heck are you talking about?  I didn't hear her say one word about the fact that she has a baby with Down syndrome today.  Is she supposed to hide her baby because he has Down syndrome?

These kinds of attacks are ridiculous (including the premise of this diary).


by markjay on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:48:31 PM EST
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Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

CNN's John Roberts: Palin Might Neglect Her Disabled Infant?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=049S61jsK hI&feature=related

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by gunner on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:17:34 AM EST
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Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

In one day of presentations it is been in every one, as well as pictures of the baby on national tv, and it has shown up in many blogger diaries and comments, as something relevant, the Downs part and her choice part. If it were not a Downs baby and she a Pro life pol, all we'd hear is that she has five children, one of them born last spring.

And it's way off point. If the issue is how the baby got as far as being born, well, the whole point of choice is that each mother makes that choice with her family and doctor, and she made this one. So what? The choice she made was consonant with her personal and religious beliefs. So what? It doesn't make her a hero or a villian. That was the object of choice, that she could decide rather than some bureaucrat and on the values she considered relevant, but it does not change anything relevant to a national campaign that she made this one rather than the other. And does not change the fact that just as I don't want Huckabee making that choice for other women, I don't want her making it for other women either.  Millions of women in the last 25 years have made such choices in both directions, but not with all this dog whistle blowing.


by Christy1947 on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:52:50 PM EST
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I'm sorry... (2.00 / 1)

...but it has to be said:  "ILF"?

More seriously, I think the Down's syndrome thing is terrible, but my views on the value of mere life are atypical.


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by username on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:09:47 PM EST

I dont buy the backlash (2.00 / 3)

Edwards was bashed too for camaigning when his wife had cancer and I disagreed with that bashing. Are people supposed to abandon the chance to be in a difference making position just because their kid is sick? Sorry, i do not ascribe to that sentiment.


by Pravin on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:12:13 PM EST

Re: Forget her as a mother (2.00 / 2)

I'm pretty sure there's one as the actual VP right now.


by TCQuad on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:20:34 PM EST

Re: Forget her as a mother (none / 0)

Cheney worked in a higher position and was actually an evil guy who was arrogant enough not to hide his intentions. Yet, idiot voters had no problem with him.

I think it is a non issue. The question is what has Palin do to get Exxon to pay up for the oil spill. Aren't they still appealing their years old disaster of a spill?


by Pravin on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:29:50 PM EST

Re: 2000 isn't 2008 (none / 0)

Arent there democrats who work for oil companies? And what about the Clintonites from the 90s who are selling out in several areas such as telecommunications. I don't think that issue will get an ouce of traction among the independent voters. However, her conduct with respect to oil companies is open game.


by Pravin on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:30:36 PM EST
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Re: Forget her as a mother (none / 0)

typo "done" not "do"


by Pravin on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:30:42 PM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

suggestion --- delete this diary, it's distasteful in so many ways


by swissffun on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:40:31 PM EST

Such attacks are sexist (none / 0)

and unnecessary.  
I don't find Palin qualified to be President.  Period.  That has nothing to do with gender, a male with the same kind of record would also be unqualified.  It suggests to me that McCain is not capable of making proper decisions.
Joe Lieberman Democrat. Supported Biden and then Clinton in the primaries. Will vote for Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin.
by Clintonite4McCainA on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 10:41:29 PM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

Okay - now you sound like every other sexist in the media...."What kind of MOTHER is she?"....

What kind of FATHER is Obama?

C'mon - STOP THIS SHIT.

It's unbecoming and you are taking it right to where all the HILLARY SUPPORTERS want you to go.....

If you start with this crap, you WILL REMIND the Hillary supporters about all the sexist stuff that we just had to get through....

Do you really want to go there AGAIN?


by nikkid on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 11:37:08 PM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

What kind of father is Obama? A good one. He spends a lot of time with his children and clearly they are the most important thing to him. We see that in how he acts, and he has been judged on that.

With Joe Biden, we looked at how he raised his children after the terrible accident. We know about how he got sworn in in the hospital beside his children. He is a dedicated and loving father.

Malia and Sasha Obama are not infants. My personal opinion, and one that I think a lot of people share, is that there is a big difference between having a 10 year old and 6 year old child and having a 4 month old son (with down syndrome).

I think that illustrates values that I disagree with.


by BlueGAinDC on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:03:23 AM EST
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Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

Despite the comments you get about being sexist or whatever, I agree that this is a legitimate issue and one that is not sexist.

Having a 4 month old child with down syndrome should be enough for anyone, mother OR father, to say, no, this is not the time for me to run for national office. In fact, even if the child did not have down syndrome.

Why should this issue be off the table?
Republicans bring up family values all the time, and win elections on it. Yet what they are selling is bullshit. This is really what family values are about. Now, sure, its not our job to TELL someone how to raise their children, but it sure as hell is our place to evaluate their judgement as well as any other factor that we believe makes someone suitable or unsuitable for national office.

In this case, I think it matters. I think she cares more about being VP than her family. Its an important issue to me, and I think it will be to many voters. And to call out those of us who are bringing up this issue is the REAL BULLSHIT.


by BlueGAinDC on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 12:57:28 AM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (2.00 / 1)

While I think that Sarah Palin is a poor choice to be Vice President, I don't think this line of attack would be a good one for anyone in any media position or in the campaign to make. There is more than enough out there to attack her on without having to start to opine about her fitness as a mother.


by JENKINS on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 01:56:26 AM EST

Re: Palin, What kind of Mother Is She? (none / 0)

She is a horrible mother.

http://www.now.org/press/08-08/08-29.htm l

"In a gubernatorial debate, Palin stated emphatically that her opposition to abortion was so great, so total, that even if her teenage daughter was impregnated by a rapist, she would "choose life" -- meaning apparently that she would not permit her daughter to have an abortion."


by BluePoster on Sat Aug 30, 2008 at 02:03:10 AM EST


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