Obama Speech Thread

Tremendous.

A thread for your thoughts on tonight.

Update [2008-8-28 23:23:1 by Jonathan Singer]: Check out the text of Obama's speech in the extended entry...

As Prepared for Delivery

To Chairman Dean and my great friend Dick Durbin; and to all my fellow citizens of this great nation;

With profound gratitude and great humility, I accept your nomination for the presidency of the United States.

Let me express my thanks to the historic slate of candidates who accompanied me on this journey, and especially the one who traveled the farthest - a champion for working Americans and an inspiration to my daughters and to yours -- Hillary Rodham Clinton.  To President Clinton, who last night made the case for change as only he can make it; to Ted Kennedy, who embodies the spirit of service; and to the next Vice President of the United States, Joe Biden, I thank you. I am grateful to finish this journey with one of the finest statesmen of our time, a man at ease with everyone from world leaders to the conductors on the Amtrak train he still takes home every night.

To the love of my life, our next First Lady, Michelle Obama, and to Sasha and Malia - I love you so much, and I'm so proud of all of you.

Four years ago, I stood before you and told you my story - of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to.

It is that promise that has always set this country apart - that through hard work and sacrifice, each of us can pursue our individual dreams but still come together as one American family, to ensure that the next generation can pursue their dreams as well.

That's why I stand here tonight.  Because for two hundred and thirty two years, at each moment when that promise was in jeopardy, ordinary men and women - students and soldiers, farmers and teachers, nurses and janitors -- found the courage to keep it alive.

We meet at one of those defining moments - a moment when our nation is at war, our economy is in turmoil, and the American promise has been threatened once more.

Tonight, more Americans are out of work and more are working harder for less.  More of you have lost your homes and even more are watching your home values plummet.  More of you have cars you can't afford to drive, credit card bills you can't afford to pay, and tuition that's beyond your reach.

These challenges are not all of government's making.  But the failure to respond is a direct result of a broken politics in Washington and the failed policies of George W. Bush.

America, we are better than these last eight years.  We are a better country than this.

This country is more decent than one where a woman in Ohio, on the brink of retirement, finds herself one illness away from disaster after a lifetime of hard work.

This country is more generous than one where a man in Indiana has to pack up the equipment he's worked on for twenty years and watch it shipped off to China, and then chokes up as he explains how he felt like a failure when he went home to tell his family the news.

We are more compassionate than a government that lets veterans sleep on our streets and families slide into poverty; that sits on its hands while a major American city drowns before our eyes.

Tonight, I say to the American people, to Democrats and Republicans and Independents across this great land - enough!  This moment - this election - is our chance to keep, in the 21st century, the American promise alive.  Because next week, in Minnesota, the same party that brought you two terms of George Bush and Dick Cheney will ask this country for a third.  And we are here because we love this country too much to let the next four years look like the last eight.  On November 4th, we must stand up and say: "Eight is enough."

Now let there be no doubt.  The Republican nominee, John McCain, has worn the uniform of our country with bravery and distinction, and for that we owe him our gratitude and respect.  And next week, we'll also hear about those occasions when he's broken with his party as evidence that he can deliver the change that we need.

But the record's clear: John McCain has voted with George Bush ninety percent of the time.  Senator McCain likes to talk about judgment, but really, what does it say about your judgment when you think George Bush has been right more than ninety percent of the time?  I don't know about you, but I'm not ready to take a ten percent chance on change.

The truth is, on issue after issue that would make a difference in your lives - on health care and education and the economy - Senator McCain has been anything but independent.  He said that our economy has made "great progress" under this President.  He said that the fundamentals of the economy are strong.  And when one of his chief advisors - the man who wrote his economic plan - was talking about the anxiety Americans are feeling, he said that we were just suffering from a "mental recession," and that we've become, and I quote, "a nation of whiners."

A nation of whiners?  Tell that to the proud auto workers at a Michigan plant who, after they found out it was closing, kept showing up every day and working as hard as ever, because they knew there were people who counted on the brakes that they made.  Tell that to the military families who shoulder their burdens silently as they watch their loved ones leave for their third or fourth or fifth tour of duty.  These are not whiners.  They work hard and give back and keep going without complaint.  These are the Americans that I know.

Now, I don't believe that Senator McCain doesn't care what's going on in the lives of Americans.  I just think he doesn't know.  Why else would he define middle-class as someone making under five million dollars a year?  How else could he propose hundreds of billions in tax breaks for big corporations and oil companies but not one penny of tax relief to more than one hundred million Americans?  How else could he offer a health care plan that would actually tax people's benefits, or an education plan that would do nothing to help families pay for college, or a plan that would privatize Social Security and gamble your retirement?

It's not because John McCain doesn't care.  It's because John McCain doesn't get it.

For over two decades, he's subscribed to that old, discredited Republican philosophy - give more and more to those with the most and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else.  In Washington, they call this the Ownership Society, but what it really means is - you're on your own.  Out of work?  Tough luck.  No health care?  The market will fix it.  Born into poverty?  Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps - even if you don't have boots.  You're on your own.

Well it's time for them to own their failure.  It's time for us to change America.

You see, we Democrats have a very different measure of what constitutes progress in this country.

We measure progress by how many people can find a job that pays the mortgage; whether you can put a little extra money away at the end of each month so you can someday watch your child receive her college diploma.  We measure progress in the 23 million new jobs that were created when Bill Clinton was President - when the average American family saw its income go up $7,500 instead of down $2,000 like it has under George Bush.

We measure the strength of our economy not by the number of billionaires we have or the profits of the Fortune 500, but by whether someone with a good idea can take a risk and start a new business, or whether the waitress who lives on tips can take a day off to look after a sick kid without losing her job - an economy that honors the dignity of work.

The fundamentals we use to measure economic strength are whether we are living up to that fundamental promise that has made this country great - a promise that is the only reason I am standing here tonight.  

Because in the faces of those young veterans who come back from Iraq and Afghanistan, I see my grandfather, who signed up after Pearl Harbor, marched in Patton's Army, and was rewarded by a grateful nation with the chance to go to college on the GI Bill.

In the face of that young student who sleeps just three hours before working the night shift, I think about my mom, who raised my sister and me on her own while she worked and earned her degree; who once turned to food stamps but was still able to send us to the best schools in the country with the help of student loans and scholarships.

When I listen to another worker tell me that his factory has shut down, I remember all those men and women on the South Side of Chicago who I stood by and fought for two decades ago after the local steel plant closed.

And when I hear a woman talk about the difficulties of starting her own business, I think about my grandmother, who worked her way up from the secretarial pool to middle-management, despite years of being passed over for promotions because she was a woman.  She's the one who taught me about hard work.  She's the one who put off buying a new car or a new dress for herself so that I could have a better life.  She poured everything she had into me.  And although she can no longer travel, I know that she's watching tonight, and that tonight is her night as well.

I don't know what kind of lives John McCain thinks that celebrities lead, but this has been mine.  These are my heroes.  Theirs are the stories that shaped me.  And it is on their behalf that I intend to win this election and keep our promise alive as President of the United States.

What is that promise?

It's a promise that says each of us has the freedom to make of our own lives what we will, but that we also have the obligation to treat each other with dignity and respect.

It's a promise that says the market should reward drive and innovation and generate growth, but that businesses should live up to their responsibilities to create American jobs, look out for American workers, and play by the rules of the road.

Ours is a promise that says government cannot solve all our problems, but what it should do is that which we cannot do for ourselves - protect us from harm and provide every child a decent education; keep our water clean and our toys safe; invest in new schools and new roads and new science and technology.

Our government should work for us, not against us.  It should help us, not hurt us.  It should ensure opportunity not just for those with the most money and influence, but for every American who's willing to work.

That's the promise of America - the idea that we are responsible for ourselves, but that we also rise or fall as one nation; the fundamental belief that I am my brother's keeper; I am my sister's keeper.

That's the promise we need to keep.  That's the change we need right now.  So let me spell out exactly what that change would mean if I am President.

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Change means a tax code that doesn't reward the lobbyists who wrote it, but the American workers and small businesses who deserve it.

Unlike John McCain, I will stop giving tax breaks to corporations that ship jobs overseas, and I will start giving them to companies that create good jobs right here in America.

I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the start-ups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow.

I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95% of all working families.  Because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle-class.

And for the sake of our economy, our security, and the future of our planet, I will set a clear goal as President: in ten years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.  

Washington's been talking about our oil addiction for the last thirty years, and John McCain has been there for twenty-six of them.  In that time, he's said no to higher fuel-efficiency standards for cars, no to investments in renewable energy, no to renewable fuels.  And today, we import triple the amount of oil as the day that Senator McCain took office.

Now is the time to end this addiction, and to understand that drilling is a stop-gap measure, not a long-term solution.  Not even close.

As President, I will tap our natural gas reserves, invest in clean coal technology, and find ways to safely harness nuclear power.  I'll help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America.  I'll make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars.  And I'll invest 150 billion dollars over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy - wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and five million new jobs that pay well and can't ever be outsourced.

America, now is not the time for small plans.

Now is the time to finally meet our moral obligation to provide every child a world-class education, because it will take nothing less to compete in the global economy.  Michelle and I are only here tonight because we were given a chance at an education.  And I will not settle for an America where some kids don't have that chance.  I'll invest in early childhood education.  I'll recruit an army of new teachers, and pay them higher salaries and give them more support.  And in exchange, I'll ask for higher standards and more accountability.  And we will keep our promise to every young American - if you commit to serving your community or your country, we will make sure you can afford a college education.

Now is the time to finally keep the promise of affordable, accessible health care for every single American.  If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums.  If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves.  And as someone who watched my mother argue with insurance companies while she lay in bed dying of cancer, I will make certain those companies stop discriminating against those who are sick and need care the most.

Now is the time to help families with paid sick days and better family leave, because nobody in America should have to choose between keeping their jobs and caring for a sick child or ailing parent.

Now is the time to change our bankruptcy laws, so that your pensions are protected ahead of CEO bonuses; and the time to protect Social Security for future generations.

And now is the time to keep the promise of equal pay for an equal day's work, because I want my daughters to have exactly the same opportunities as your sons.

Now, many of these plans will cost money, which is why I've laid out how I'll pay for every dime - by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens that don't help America grow.  But I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less - because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.  

And Democrats, we must also admit that fulfilling America's promise will require more than just money.  It will require a renewed sense of responsibility from each of us to recover what John F. Kennedy called our "intellectual and moral strength."  Yes, government must lead on energy independence, but each of us must do our part to make our homes and businesses more efficient. Yes, we must provide more ladders to success for young men who fall into lives of crime and despair.  But we must also admit that programs alone can't replace parents; that government can't turn off the television and make a child do her homework; that fathers must take more responsibility for providing the love and guidance their children need.

Individual responsibility and mutual responsibility - that's the essence of America's promise.

And just as we keep our keep our promise to the next generation here at home, so must we keep America's promise abroad.   If John McCain wants to have a debate about who has the temperament, and judgment, to serve as the next Commander-in-Chief, that's a debate I'm ready to have.

For while Senator McCain was turning his sights to Iraq just days after 9/11, I stood up and opposed this war, knowing that it would distract us from the real threats we face.  When John McCain said we could just "muddle through" in Afghanistan, I argued for more resources and more troops to finish the fight against the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11, and made clear that we must take out Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants if we have them in our sights.  John McCain likes to say that he'll follow bin Laden to the Gates of Hell - but he won't even go to the cave where he lives.

And today, as my call for a time frame to remove our troops from Iraq has been echoed by the Iraqi government and even the Bush Administration, even after we learned that Iraq has a $79 billion surplus while we're wallowing in deficits, John McCain stands alone in his stubborn refusal to end a misguided war.

That's not the judgment we need.  That won't keep America safe.  We need a President who can face the threats of the future, not keep grasping at the ideas of the past.

You don't defeat a terrorist network that operates in eighty countries by occupying Iraq.  You don't protect Israel and deter Iran just by talking tough in Washington.  You can't truly stand up for Georgia when you've strained our oldest alliances.  If John McCain wants to follow George Bush with more tough talk and bad strategy, that is his choice - but it is not the change we need.

We are the party of Roosevelt.  We are the party of Kennedy.  So don't tell me that Democrats won't defend this country.  Don't tell me that Democrats won't keep us safe.  The Bush-McCain foreign policy has squandered the legacy that generations of Americans -- Democrats and Republicans - have built, and we are here to restore that legacy.

As Commander-in-Chief, I will never hesitate to defend this nation, but I will only send our troops into harm's way with a clear mission and a sacred commitment to give them the equipment they need in battle and the care and benefits they deserve when they come home.

I will end this war in Iraq responsibly, and finish the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.  I will rebuild our military to meet future conflicts.  But I will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression.  I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation; poverty and genocide; climate change and disease.  And I will restore our moral standing, so that America is once again that last, best hope for all who are called to the cause of freedom, who long for lives of peace, and who yearn for a better future.

These are the policies I will pursue.  And in the weeks ahead, I look forward to debating them with John McCain.

But what I will not do is suggest that the Senator takes his positions for political purposes.  Because one of the things that we have to change in our politics is the idea that people cannot disagree without challenging each other's character and patriotism.

The times are too serious, the stakes are too high for this same partisan playbook.  So let us agree that patriotism has no party.  I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain.  The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.  They have not served a Red America or a Blue America - they have served the United States of America.

So I've got news for you, John McCain.  We all put our country first.

America, our work will not be easy.  The challenges we face require tough choices, and Democrats as well as Republicans will need to cast off the worn-out ideas and politics of the past.  For part of what has been lost these past eight years can't just be measured by lost wages or bigger trade deficits.  What has also been lost is our sense of common purpose - our sense of higher purpose.  And that's what we have to restore.

We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country.  The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don't tell me we can't uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals.  I know there are differences on same-sex marriage, but surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital and to live lives free of discrimination.  Passions fly on immigration, but I don't know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child or an employer undercuts American wages by hiring illegal workers.  This too is part of America's promise - the promise of a democracy where we can find the strength and grace to bridge divides and unite in common effort.

I know there are those who dismiss such beliefs as happy talk.  They claim that our insistence on something larger, something firmer and more honest in our public life is just a Trojan Horse for higher taxes and the abandonment of traditional values.  And that's to be expected. Because if you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters.  If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.

You make a big election about small things.

And you know what - it's worked before.  Because it feeds into the cynicism we all have about government.  When Washington doesn't work, all its promises seem empty.  If your hopes have been dashed again and again, then it's best to stop hoping, and settle for what you already know.

I get it.  I realize that I am not the likeliest candidate for this office.  I don't fit the typical pedigree, and I haven't spent my career in the halls of Washington.

But I stand before you tonight because all across America something is stirring.  What the nay-sayers don't understand is that this election has never been about me.  It's been about you.

For eighteen long months, you have stood up, one by one, and said enough to the politics of the past.  You understand that in this election, the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result.  You have shown what history teaches us - that at defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn't come from Washington.  Change comes to Washington.  Change happens because the American people demand it - because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time.

America, this is one of those moments.

I believe that as hard as it will be, the change we need is coming.  Because I've seen it.  Because I've lived it.  I've seen it in Illinois, when we provided health care to more children and moved more families from welfare to work.  I've seen it in Washington, when we worked across party lines to open up government and hold lobbyists more accountable, to give better care for our veterans and keep nuclear weapons out of terrorist hands.

And I've seen it in this campaign.  In the young people who voted for the first time, and in those who got involved again after a very long time.  In the Republicans who never thought they'd pick up a Democratic ballot, but did.  I've seen it in the workers who would rather cut their hours back a day than see their friends lose their jobs, in the soldiers who re-enlist after losing a limb, in the good neighbors who take a stranger in when a hurricane strikes and the floodwaters rise.

This country of ours has more wealth than any nation, but that's not what makes us rich.  We have the most powerful military on Earth, but that's not what makes us strong.  Our universities and our culture are the envy of the world, but that's not what keeps the world coming to our shores.

Instead, it is that American spirit - that American promise - that pushes us forward even when the path is uncertain; that binds us together in spite of our differences; that makes us fix our eye not on what is seen, but what is unseen, that better place around the bend.

That promise is our greatest inheritance.  It's a promise I make to my daughters when I tuck them in at night, and a promise that you make to yours - a promise that has led immigrants to cross oceans and pioneers to travel west; a promise that led workers to picket lines, and women to reach for the ballot.

And it is that promise that forty five years ago today, brought Americans from every corner of this land to stand together on a Mall in Washington, before Lincoln's Memorial, and hear a young preacher from Georgia speak of his dream.

The men and women who gathered there could've heard many things.  They could've heard words of anger and discord.  They could've been told to succumb to the fear and frustration of so many dreams deferred.

But what the people heard instead - people of every creed and color, from every walk of life - is that in America, our destiny is inextricably linked.  That together, our dreams can be one.

"We cannot walk alone," the preacher cried.  "And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.  We cannot turn back."

America, we cannot turn back.  Not with so much work to be done.  Not with so many children to educate, and so many veterans to care for.  Not with an economy to fix and cities to rebuild and farms to save.  Not with so many families to protect and so many lives to mend.  America, we cannot turn back.  We cannot walk alone.  At this moment, in this election, we must pledge once more to march into the future.  Let us keep that promise - that American promise - and in the words of Scripture hold firmly, without wavering, to the hope that we confess.

Thank you, God Bless you, and God Bless the United States of America.



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Re: Obama Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

A thread for your thoughts on HISTORY, on a night of all nights!

I am so proud right now, not of Barack Obama and not of the Democratic Party, but of America.


The Wayward Episcopalian
by Transplanted Texan on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:06:27 PM EST

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Swish.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:36:26 PM EST
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Insane good! (2.00 / 2)

Freaken FANTASTIC!

I wish it didn't end.


John McCain defends Bush's Iraq strategy.
by recusancy on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:06:44 PM EST

Actually exceeded expectations (2.00 / 4)

I didn't think it possible.

It had the rhetorical flourish.

It his McCain HARD.

It was policy specific.

It was proudly Democratic.

It turned his weakness (inexperience) into a strength.

It was masterful.


by elrod on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:06:45 PM EST

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Fox disagreed.

Brit Hume was the first anchor to talk over the cheering after the speech (I clicked from CBS to Fox to MSNBC: Hume had finished its commentary at the same time Olbermann/Matthews started theirs), including one touching mention of Barack Hussein... uh... Obama. He said it sounded pretty, but would be the same liberal programs of the past.

Juan Williams panned just about everything in it and said that he didn't bring MLK into early enough or often enough. Bill F@*&ing Kristol was the only one who liked it and said it exceeded expectations. The woman said he talked about the failed liberal policies of the past followed by saying we have to move to the future and it was a bad speech and the crowd didn't like the first half at all. White guy number two said it was pretty but didn't live up to expectations.

I was so pissed after listening to it I punched a gallon of Cranberry Juice. (It was handy)

I... knew they were going to, but I'm just... Either swallow your partisanship of man up to it like Matthews did.


by TCQuad on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:22:30 PM EST
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juan williams (2.00 / 1)

realizes that being a black man that criticizes obama at every chance = job security at Faux News.


by highgrade on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:23:25 PM EST
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Re: Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

quite wonderful. Obama had one of his best speeches and became an attack dog himself. I'm proud of these last 45 minutes.


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by alex100 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:07:18 PM EST

great speech, (none / 0)

but not into the spooky music and botched fireworks after it. And 2004 will never be topped by Obama. He shoulda saved some of that material if he knew he was gonna be a nominee some day. But still, solid going.


by Lakrosse on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:07:22 PM EST

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Brooks and Dunn is spooky music?


The Wayward Episcopalian
by Transplanted Texan on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:08:35 PM EST
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Re: great speech, (none / 0)

I don't think they realized that fireworks would be silly after a speech like Obama would give.


Our long national nightmare is over.
by Beltway Dem on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:08:35 PM EST
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Re: great speech, (2.00 / 1)

Lakrosse, you're such a team player--always ready to offer advice about how things should have been done.


"In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." -Barack Obama
by blueAZ on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:09:35 PM EST
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Re: great speech, (none / 0)

Bitter much?  Seriously do you get a cheap jolly out of spouting stupid things on a Democratic Blog?  Go have fun at Redstate.com.


by yitbos96bb on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:12:47 PM EST
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Re: great speech, (2.00 / 3)

The fireworks were in lieu of balloons.  I'm no fan of Brooks and Dunn, but I love country music generally and I see how it would play well.


by elrod on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:14:19 PM EST
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Re: great speech, (2.00 / 1)

Well, they are in Colorado after all...


"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"
by LordMike on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:24:56 PM EST
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Re: great speech, (2.00 / 1)

i actually miss the botched balloon drop.


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by alex100 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:14:57 PM EST
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I am amazed (none / 0)

It is a speech in the league of "I Have a Dream."  It will be reviewed and replayed over and over for generations.  It was astonishing.


Our long national nightmare is over.
by Beltway Dem on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:07:47 PM EST

Re: I am amazed (none / 0)

Obama has given some amazing speeches.  The Race Speech, The Religion Speech and the 04 Convention Speech will rank as some of the best of the 21st century.

This speech blew those away.


by yitbos96bb on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:09:09 PM EST
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Gergen said, "It was a symphony."

This guy, Barack Obama, really could be a great president.  He was fearless tonight, absolutely fearless.


Our long national nightmare is over.
by Beltway Dem on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:15:28 PM EST
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Olbermann is right.  It's like an Aaron Sorkin Movie Moment EXCEPT it was real.    


by yitbos96bb on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:08:00 PM EST

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"This is EXACTLY what I'm going to do"

He offered his bio, offered a vision of the greatness that is America, laid out his vision and attacked McCain without getting dirty.

I think the country music was a great touch, too.  Lyrics about "only in America" and "he could be the president" with a "rural" twang.


"In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." -Barack Obama
by blueAZ on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:08:08 PM EST

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Can you see?  Can you see?  Can you see now why we like him so much?  Why so many Obamabots are working so hard to get him elected?

Never have I been prouder to be a Democrat!

Oh, yeah, and this:


"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"
by LordMike on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:08:32 PM EST

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I love that part of A League of Their Own...so appropriate.  We got John McCain tonight.


by gorebeatbush2 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:31:42 PM EST
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My only though (2.00 / 1)

was "I want to go home. I want to be back in my country and be a part of this"

But I'm not there and in about two hours, my cousins and I will board a train in Rome bound for Amsterdam and along the way, I remind everyone who asks (and everyone does)

I am an American.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:08:48 PM EST

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Put your obama sticker on the backpack

and don't forget to vote by mail


by gil44 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:13:49 PM EST
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Coming home (2.00 / 2)

November 2-9 to vote in person.

I'm sorry, this year, it just HAS to be done in person. I have to cast my vote for him on American soil.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:16:17 PM EST
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Hot Damn!  He is so much bigger than McCain and it's so fn obvious.


by KLRinLA on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:08:54 PM EST

If... (2.00 / 2)

If this is the tenor of the campaign from now until November we are going to win. He attacked John McCain on his supposed strengths and hit harder than McCain ever could. It was the clean version of Rovian tactics.

He slapped McCain down. He offered legitimate policy options and talked about how to pay for them. He repudiated everything Bush, McCain and the Republicans have chosen to stand for.

My favorite point was "John McCain doesn't get it."

I think this was the turning of the tide ladies and gentlemen. Now we have to carry it through to Election Day.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:09:19 PM EST

EPIC n/t (none / 0)


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:10:06 PM EST

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Any PUMA who STILL is supporting McCain after Hillary's speech, Hillary's acclimation statement, Bill's Speech and Obama's speech... they were never a real Democrat and I question their sanity.


by yitbos96bb on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:10:54 PM EST

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Nailed it!

I had my doubts about the venue and if Obama could deliver.

Not only did he deliver it, he gift wrapped it, put a handwritten card on it, then proceeded to ram it up McCains butt.


by tlhwraith on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:11:17 PM EST

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No doubts about the venue... being a "celebrity" is what got him here, and every time he moved away from that, he suffered...

Enbrace the celebrity... the election IS a popularity contest, so be popular!

More importantly, we have 80,000+ new, excited volunteers working for us in Colorado.

Brilliant move, Howard Dean... having or convention here!


"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"
by LordMike on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:16:28 PM EST
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Except the speech was brilliant.  This was not the speech of a celebrity, but of the best political leader in a generation.    McCain tried to convince Americans that Obama was just another Paris Hilton and would come out and tell them "Thats Hot".

Instead, he took on every challenge of McCain and threw it back into his face. I don't think the McCain camp expected to be confronted and attacked so directly.  I have a feeling that a lot of GOP speeches are being feverishly rewritten at this time.

Obama just regrabbed the narrative of the election.  


by gavoter on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:37:56 PM EST
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Perfect, just perfect.


by mady on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:12:10 PM EST

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Incredible...unbelievable...that's the Barack I know.  America can't turn down a message and a candidate like that.  If we do, then shame on us.  Wake up America...there is your next President!


by gorebeatbush2 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:14:21 PM EST

My thoughts: (none / 0)

AMAZINCREDIBOGGLINGREATERRIFANTAWESOMAGN IFABULOUS!


Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?
by Elsinora on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:14:34 PM EST

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CNN: "it wasn't a speech, it was a symphony."  "He's growing into the job of being President."

Hot damn.  


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:15:13 PM EST

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Anyone still think Obama ain't a fighter?  Anyone?


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:15:51 PM EST
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This was a speech that Obama had to make. He had to show the country that he knows about meat and potato issues. He also had to show that he is tough enough to go up against McCain. He accomplished that tonight.

Although a well delivered speech, this was not Obama's best speech. But that's Ok because todays speech was more about getting votes and not an inaugurul address.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:15:44 PM EST

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It was a masterful political speech, and that's exactly what he needed to deliver.  There's a time and a place for everything, just wait for the inauguration.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:17:15 PM EST
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Two big points (2.00 / 5)

Anyone fearful Obama couldn't or wouldn't be able to hit McCain hard enough no longer has anything to be worried about.  That was a big league smackdown, a monster body slam -- and he did it without a single character shot, and really -- without even using the gimmicks.  He went right after -- ON POLICY.  There were soundbite lines, sure - but they were policy driven.

A bigger point... this was not an apology for being a Democrat -- it was declaration of Democratic independence.  This was taking our party back.  It drew lines in the sand not where the GOP drew them FOR us, but where they BELONG.  

He didn't run from the Democratic brand, he resurrected the Democratic brand.

You can pick odds and ends... maybe you loathe the concept of "clean coal" or nuclear energy -- but this was full-throated advocacy for the basic tenets of the Democratic party right up and down the line.


by zonk on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:15:58 PM EST

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I haven't see the speech but I read it.

Does anyone here who was not already a rabid Obama supporter think is was a great speech?

Reading it was not inspiring.
Certainly not the I have a Dream that someone here likened it to.

Anyone who isn't gaga for Obama like it?


by dtaylor2 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:17:56 PM EST

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I think the point was that it was not supposed to be soaring rhetoric. It was made to finally use that platform to answer all the attacks that have been made on him.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:20:15 PM EST
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This time it was more along the lines of 'bring it on' than 'I have a dream.'  'Tis the season for beating the crap out of the Republicans, bipartisanship can wait 'till after November.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:21:19 PM EST
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Few speeches jump off the written page.  That's why they're "speeches," not "essays."


by rfahey22 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:22:07 PM EST
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As someone who teaches college composition and rhetoric, essays don't usually jump of the page, either!


by ProgressiveDL on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:30:53 PM EST
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Touche.


by rfahey22 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:33:38 PM EST
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actually, they sometimes jump off the page and smack me with their poor grammar.


by slynch on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:01:54 AM EST
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We can thank mainstream media for the coming extinction of the comma after an introductory clause.


by ProgressiveDL on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 08:41:16 AM EST
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well, they are also a product of our deteriorating education system.  I absolutely hate the way that public schools have shied away from teaching--and more importantly, emphasizing--proper grammar.  I constantly see phrases like "could of" instead of "could have," confusion over its and it's, confusion over your and you're, they're, their, and there, etc.  Drives me nuts.


by slynch on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:17:18 PM EST
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As much as I hate to admit it, we don't have the time to teach grammar here in college, so if they don't have it by age 18, they never will.  We point out egregious errors and try to hit a few points that are a result of never being exposed to it properly (semicolons, punctuation inside quotes, etc.), but we don't discuss participial phrases and such.


by ProgressiveDL on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:23:55 PM EST
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yeah, I know.  I teach statistics and research methods at Princeton, and I've simply given up on giving anything other than short answers on tests and homeworks.  The grammar is so terrible for 90% of the students, and coupled with the usual lack of understanding of the material, I get the most ridiculous nonsense answers.


by slynch on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:36:51 PM EST
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I've not been a big fan of Obama, but I listened to the speech and thought it was damn near perfect.  For years I've been waiting for someone to act proud to be a Democrat and to stand up and fight against Repub. bs.  Obama's speech did that.  I haven't seen another Democrat deliver such a speech since Clinton (Bill).

I also read the speech and can see why, if you didn't hear it, some parts would seem flat.  A lot was in the delivery.


by slynch on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:59:17 PM EST
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I watched it and it was a good speech.

But the comparisons to I have a dream or the claim that this is a speech for a generation are just crazy talk.

I think those who over hype Obama like that at this juncture are actually hurting him.

Good speech, Great speech, Fantastic speech.......Fine

Best speech evah, Blows away churchill, will be taught in school for years....probably more hurt than help.


by dtaylor2 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 02:36:00 AM EST
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I'd probably agree with you that it wasn't of MLK/Churchill/etc. caliber, but I hesitate, because history is what really makes a speech great.  It's too early, really, to compare it to now-famous historical speeches one way or the other.

On the other hand, if younger voters are wowed by the speech and think it's up there with the greatest speeches of all time, that is very important, because it will further motivate the youth to vote.  I can't really see how it hurts at all.


by slynch on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:14:24 PM EST
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Obama does not write for the writen word, he writes for the spoken word.  You had to hear it spoken to understand why it was good.


by gavoter on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:02:45 AM EST
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I'm gaga for Obama, have been for months (my wife has me beat by a year; she was at one of Obama's very first rallies and has been singing his praises ever since).

It was a masterful political speech.

It wasn't MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech. MLK wasn't running against a person, he wasn't even speaking against an evil all that much; he was speaking towards a good. "I Have A Dream" was fundamentally about our morals, not our politics. Obviously it has strongly affected politics for well over a generation, but it's done so by creating a touchstone of moral clarity.

Obama's speech was simply amazing, but it wasn't "I Have A Dream". We're not going to be hearing it run every year on the radio. That wasn't the goal. It's not "Ask Not", either.

It's a political speech, an electoral speech, and a speech intended to reframe pretty much every significant issue in this election. It hit McCain hard, over and over and over. It counterpunched nearly every major anti-Obama attack that's been offered up by the McCain campaign. It was personal and it was broadly political; soaring and nuts-and-bolts practical; both gracious to McCain and yet pummeling him above the belt.

I believe that the last three days have created a situation where the Republicans will be hard-pressed to even play defense during their convention. There are too many leaks that need plugging to be able to get much onto offense, and if they launch into character attacks in lieu of defense, Obama did about as good a job as can be done of preempting those before the fact.

In a situation with near-impossible expectations, he hit a home run.

That's why it's a great speech.


No Way. No How. No McCain-Palin!
by Texas Gray Wolf on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:36:30 AM EST
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I am so proud .... (2.00 / 3)

... of my country.

As Americans, we will come together and say yes to a bright future.

As Americans we will elect a wise leader who will guide this nation into prosperity once again.

The history is just amazing:

A black man just accepted our party's nomination

A working class kid from Scranton is his running mate

A woman, the speaker of the house, just presided over the whole things.

Yes We Can


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by dannybauder on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:19:05 PM EST

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Outstanding.  I don't know about ya'll, but we were all floored here in my living room.  Not even the Golden Retriever could peel her eyes away.

When it was over, a 10 year old boy turned to me and said, "We are very lucky to be Americans.  I wish I was old enough to vote for Obama."


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:20:43 PM EST

Outstanding Speech (none / 0)

Go...Obama and Biden


by markieparkie on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:20:56 PM EST

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Hot damn! If that speech didn't move to act, to participate, to insure we win this time. You need to check your pulse, you just maybe no longer amongst the living.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:21:01 PM EST

Freaking awesome (2.00 / 1)

The bump coming from this speech will be amazing.  This is the Obama that I've been waiting for all summer.


by Blazers Edge on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:21:33 PM EST

ENOUGH!!!!!! (2.00 / 2)

Well, I still think I choose well.

We had great candidates, Clinton, Biden, Dodd, Richardson...

ANYONE of our candidates would be infinately better then John McCain.

But, as Obama signfies, this is NOT about small things.

This is a new generation of leaders, working with the old, moving us forward.

The Republics don't have anything to match this.


Rush Limbaugh, Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber...The Triad of Republican Irrelevancy.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:21:54 PM EST

To the RNC (2.00 / 2)

Beat that, assholes.


by JFMDC on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:21:57 PM EST

Re: To the RNC (2.00 / 2)

Even Tom Brokaw was making fun of the McCain camp's faxed response.

When Tom Brokaw is rolling his eyes at your response, you're....uhhh.... in trouble.


by zonk on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:27:56 PM EST
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How did you do a pitch-perfect Tom Brokaw impression without speaking.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:32:14 PM EST
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I made some noise last night about Chuck Todd's criticism of Biden's speech, and tonight he can't seem to say enough good about this speech.

Even perennial handjob Brian Williams is gushing.

Home run, grandslam, touchdown, goal, whatever your sports metaphor is, this was a win for the Democrats.


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by dannybauder on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:34:11 PM EST
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Moved to tears. Both my wife a nd I (2.00 / 1)

An extraordinary evening.  We should all remember it forever.


by zmus on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:27:14 PM EST

His speech was excellent... (2.00 / 4)

between Hillary, Bill and now Barack, I am ready to move foreward.  While in my heart there will always be a bittersweet part knowing I will probably not live long enough to see a woman win the WH, I am getting ready to get signs for "Obama/Biden '08" on my lawn.  On some level I always knew I would....because I know myself. Hell would freeze over before I could vote republican or do anything to allow another four years of the right wing in power.

In 2004, I was able to vote for a candidate who did not inspire me at all.  Now, I can vote for someone who does inspire me, albeit not as much as Hillary did.  

It took me staying off certain blogs, ignoring certain posters and bloggers, for they fueled my resentment.  But I did it and I will do the right thing....work and elect a democrat.

However, to be sure, I will not let go of taking the DNC to task for what I believe was their unfair treatment of women in the party.....that is, their willingness to let misogyny go unchallenged.   But that is a different battle and one that can wait until after November.


by Jjc2008 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:27:27 PM EST

Re: His speech was excellent... (2.00 / 1)

"But that is a different battle and one that can wait until after November."

Well, as an Obama supporter AND a Father, I will hold you to that pledge, with need Obama in the WH, and we need a women president in my life time, my daughter does not have to wait till she is my age...


Rush Limbaugh, Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber...The Triad of Republican Irrelevancy.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:30:51 PM EST
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We need the person who is best suited to the time we are in and best suited to take this country forward in the best way. For the next 8 years I hope that person is Barack Obama. After that maybe it will be Hillary, maybe it will be Mark Warner, maybe it will be someone we haven't thought of yet. I find it equally absurd to think that person has to be a women as I would if you thought it had to be a man.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:34:33 PM EST
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Don't worry (none / 0)

as a retired teacher who had been telling 11 and 12 year olds for four decades that neither race nor gender nor spiritual beliefs should ever keep them from their dreams, no matter what, I will continue to fight the battles.  I think of the many young AA boys over the years that I have taught who had the grace and intelligence of Barack, and the many young girls who had the spitfire and work ethic of Hillary and I know this is good for all of them.

But the DNC needs to get out of the manipulation business.   It's that simple for me.


by Jjc2008 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:46:12 PM EST
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What Chuck Todd just said, the Republican response was as if they were speechless.

He was pretty sour last night, he just said, he wonders HOW the Republics can top this....


Rush Limbaugh, Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber...The Triad of Republican Irrelevancy.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:27:57 PM EST

How does a guy (2.00 / 1)

channel the fighting spirit of Harry Truman, the moral voice of MLK, the vision of JFK, the humility of middle America... ALL IN ONE SPEECH!

INCREDIBLE! And the country music at the end was a nice touch, the song was perfect! I just sat there in silence.


by Dmitri in San Diego on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:29:47 PM EST

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Unbelievable.

Thank you,  Barack Obama.

Amazing.


by RussTC3 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:30:03 PM EST

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CNN: "The Republican that doesn't get picked for VP today may be a lucky Republican."  Ha!


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:33:04 PM EST

Tim Pawlenty is the Apparent Choice (none / 0)

The networks have reported that Tim Pawlenty has suddenly cancelled all of his plans for today and tomorrow. Mitt Romney and other VP candidates have not cancelled their events.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:37:15 PM EST
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Re: Tim Pawlenty is the Apparent Choice (none / 0)

Poor Tim.  Short straw.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:40:58 PM EST
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Or the thumb rule. That always gets 'em


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by dannybauder on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:44:52 PM EST
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Holy smokes.

The pundits were pretty sour, up till now.

Chuck Todd is just about declaring HE is voting for Obama....

Brokaw as well...

If these Pundits are any example, they bought this hook line and sinker!


Rush Limbaugh, Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber...The Triad of Republican Irrelevancy.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:33:12 PM EST

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I really can't wait to see how they barely pretend to hide their complete lack of giving a shit in the Twin Cities next week.


www.payd.org Keeping PA Blue
by dannybauder on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:41:01 PM EST
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Any doubters left? (2.00 / 2)

I can't see how anyone could have asked for anything more than what Obama delivered tonight.

As a long-time supporter, I always expect a great speech. But this one took me by surpise. As a purely political speech, to close the convention and start the general campaign, it was magnificent.

Seriously. Anyone still doubt this guy's skills?


"This victory alone is not the change we seek -- it is only the chance for us to make that change." -- Nov. 4, 2008
by BobzCat on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:34:24 PM EST

HAH! FOX just cut off McCain's reaction (2.00 / 1)

to Obama's speech!

The putz in front of the McCain Plane got out: "America has just seen a misleading speech that is at odds with Senator Obama's meager..."

"I'm sorry, we'll have to get that tomorrow, Greta?"

And Greta threw back to highlights of the speech!

I just caught the last of Karl Rove's statement, but he was pretty well dismissed by the FOX newsperson as well.

Did anyoe watch FOX?  Are they converted????


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:38:11 PM EST

Re: HAH! FOX just cut off McCain's reaction (2.00 / 1)

Paraphrase

Greta: will Obama's words stick?

Frank Luntz: Yes, they are crystal clear, everyone on their feet the whole time. He delivered "enough" with power and passion

THIS IS FOX?!?


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by dannybauder on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:42:47 PM EST
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Re: HAH! FOX just cut off McCain's reaction (none / 0)

At a certain point you have to say it's good, otherwise you just lose credibility completely.


by MeganLocke on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:23:56 AM EST
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Wow, I just listened to CNN's post speech commentary and I've got to say I have never heard anything like it before during this whole election, and it's fair to say they've all got a crush on Obama tonight.  What's the reaction on the other networks I can't get in the Antipodes?


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:39:18 PM EST

MSNBC was speechless (2.00 / 1)

for a long time after the speech ended.

Matthews: "I've been criticized for saying he inspires me, but to hell with my critics"


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:42:50 PM EST
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MOJO (2.00 / 2)

MOJO for ..... Matthews?

what is the world coming to?

I hope he goes "off script" in St Paul next week:

"Well Keith, that was an interesting speech from Sen McCain, but it really paled in comparison to the one we saw last week. You know like, going from Peter Luger's to Applebee's "


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by dannybauder on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:47:59 PM EST
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Pat Buchanan (none / 0)

"This is the greatest convention speech ever"


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:56:12 PM EST
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I don't think I've heard anything like this ever.  The unanimity.  Great speech, and I think everyone may be just so totally sick of the Bush legacy at this point that, given this remarkable candidate, they are throwing caution to the winds.


by mady on Thu Aug 28, 2008 at 11:46:42 PM EST
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Pat Buchanan loved it.  Yes, THAT Pat Buchanan.   He thought it was a wonderfully centrist speech that hit the heart of America.  He could not find any problems with it.

If Barack Obama could win over Pat Buchanan, I don't see how John McCain is going to have a chance.

I think this speech might finally have broken through to the media that America is tired of Karl Rove.  If the GOP has a Rovian convention, they will be in trouble.


by gavoter on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:15:22 AM EST
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Pat Buchanan?  They must think he's going to win now.


by Shaun Appleby on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:41:50 AM EST
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Pat Buchanan (2.00 / 1)

"I have seen Kennedy, and I have seen Reagan ... I have seen Martin Luther...This was the greatest convention speech - because this one was an acceptance speech - this was the greatest.  This is my favorite passage:

I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain.  The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.  They have not served a Red America or a Blue America - they have served the United States of America.

This is the kind of thing that grabs people by the heart, that brings them to their feet and brings them together"

The audience behind the MSNBC panel goes wild...


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:01:09 AM EST

Re: Pat Buchanan (2.00 / 1)

Pitchfork Pat said that?

I better go check the stars in the sky, I think I have been teleported to another universe....


Rush Limbaugh, Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber...The Triad of Republican Irrelevancy.
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:14:36 AM EST
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The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag.  They have not served a Red America or a Blue America - they have served the United States of America.

And that's how you win the heartland.


by venician on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:01:14 AM EST

Rain on the Parade (none / 0)

Let me start off by saying I'm a die-hard Democrat who, while supporting Hillary during the primaries, will be happily pulling the lever for Obama on Nov. 4th.  Obama is a phenomenally gifted orator who has delivered big time in the past, but this speech was so lame. On such a historic night, he waited until the last moment to cite its historic nature. I watched with several rabid supporters and half of them were falling asleep during this speech.  It was just an off night, perhaps, and maybe the expectations and the pressure were too high, but I am so underwhelmed, and reading the comments here I feel like I saw a completely different speech.  Schweitzer, Hill and Bill rocked it, but Obama, and so many others were so disappointing. I'm feeling discouraged by our prospects now, sensing the old snatching-defeat-from-the-jaws-of-victor y demon around the corner. Clearly it's just me (and the Dems I watched with), and I HOPE it's just me, but wow, I think that speech sucked and I sure hope he gets back on his A-game in the coming weeks.  OK, venting over, sorry to crap on the celebration.


by BklynDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:18:56 AM EST

Re: Rain on the Parade (none / 0)

I like the soaring rhetoric too, but this was the meaty nuts and bolts speech he needed to give.  

The only TV commentators not impressed by it were those who were obviously concern-trolling.  This speech was a kick to the shriveled nuts of the Republican party.


"In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope." -Barack Obama
by blueAZ on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:26:00 AM EST
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Re: Rain on the Parade (none / 0)

I watched the speech at the county (Williamson County, Texas) watch party. Lots of Democrats, Hillary supporters and Obama supporters, black and white, old and young, long-time Democrats and newly minted Obamacans (this is a very red county; we're working to change that).

Far from Denver, where our applause mattered not much at all except to ourselves, tonight's speech drew pretty much constant applause and several standing ovations.

I think you saw a different speech.


No Way. No How. No McCain-Palin!
by Texas Gray Wolf on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:44:55 AM EST
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Re: Obama Speech Thread (none / 0)

I hope you're right, but that's not the remotely the speech I saw.  Luckily, McCain is as wooden as Pinnochio when it comes to giving a good speech...


by BklynDem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:31:02 AM EST


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