McCain's Plagiarism Problem

It's never a good sign when a presidential candidate is caught cribbing foreign policy notes from Wikipedia -- particularly when that candidate is trying to put himself forward as the more serious and experienced choice in the realm of foreign policy.

A Wikipedia editor emailed Political Wire to point out some similarities between Sen. John McCain's speech today on the crisis in Georgia and the Wikipedia article on the country Georgia. Given the closeness of the words and sentence structure, most would consider parts of McCain's speech to be derived directly from Wikipedia.

First instance:

one of the first countries in the world to adopt Christianity as an official religion (Wikipedia)

vs.

one of the world's first nations to adopt Christianity as an official religion (McCain)

Taegan Goddard has a couple more examples of this over at the link above for those interested, and they are interesting.

But taking a step back, it's always interesting to think about these stories from the perspective of the shoe being on the other foot -- what would the reaction have been had this story come out in relation to the other candidate. In this case, what would have happened had Barack Obama, not John McCain, been caught cheating on the 3 AM test by appropriating from Wikipedia? Heck, what would have happened if a college student, or even a sixth grader, had been exposed for such actions?

This is a major league embarrassment, one that goes a long way towards undercutting the meme that McCain is untouchable on foreign policy. Yes, it is more likely a case of a staffer writing notes for the candidate failing to do all due diligence in researching the day's talking points, instead cutting a corner too closely by taking cues from Wikipedia, than anything else. Still, a candidate must stand by the words out of his mouth even if not anything else. And if McCain is going to go around borrowing from Wikipedia, or even just paraphrasing the site, it makes less believable the argument that he's a real foreign policy heavyweight.

Update [2008-8-11 20:56:55 by Jonathan Singer]: At least one professor wouldn't be happy getting a paper with these types of similarities.

Update [2008-8-11 22:18:36 by Josh Orton]: But who says McCain doesn't understand the internet??



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If we assume it was a staffer that makes it worse. (2.00 / 2)

McCain's foreign policy speeches written by someone who has to get the background information from Wikipedia.  Does he not have any experts at all on his staff?


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 09:05:41 PM EST

Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (2.00 / 1)

I really, really, really really hope that the traditional media pics up on this.

Will no one hold the McCain camp to any sort of accountability?

I mean, Chris FREAKING Wallace put Rick Davis in the hot seat this week, and Cokie Roberts refers to Obama as "exotic"

WTF?


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by dannybauder on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 09:15:18 PM EST

Nelson Muntz laugh (2.00 / 2)

ha-HA


by zerosumgame on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:09:44 PM EST

Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (2.00 / 1)

McCain himself can't swipe things from Wikipedia, since people have to help him to use the internets!  Obviously he's responsible for the things he says, but this is extra-hilarious since it reminds people that Wikipedia is an abstraction for McCain!


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by jeff in chicago on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:20:15 PM EST

clever of mccain (2.00 / 1)

to establish his alibi beforehand.


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by John DE on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:31:39 PM EST
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Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (2.00 / 1)

People who read your comment might get the impression that McCain writes ANY of his speeches. I don't think that's true. That's why he likes the town hall meetings.


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by vcalzone on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:29:27 PM EST
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"Straight Talk" you can Xerox (none / 0)


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:22:20 PM EST

McSame debuts new Campaign Slogan (none / 0)

"Just Do It"

Shhh.  The Corporate Media will never catch on.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:24:29 PM EST

Source schmource (2.00 / 1)

We're supposed to celebrate their "official religion"? This is a reason we're supposed to go to war for them? Another crusade?

Gee, seems to me that's something a bunch of Dead White Males would have a problem with.


by BlueinColorado on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:34:48 PM EST

McSame doesn't even go to church! (2.00 / 1)

and what's next, McSame saying the US should adopt an official religion?


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:39:51 PM EST
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This is important how? (2.00 / 1)

The blogs are full of snarky irrelevancies. This is one of them. But, so much for raising the level of the dialogue...

I mean, come on! Bloggers want to be seen as "journalists", or something approximating journalists, and this just reinforces the notion that bloggers in general have too much time on their hands, have little in the way of real, important information on real, important concerns, or are too invested in irrelevancies... like this.


by mabelle55 on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:07:14 PM EST

Re: This is important how? (2.00 / 1)

Admitted, it's not Bernie Mac-gate, but some of us find the idea that Mr. Foreign Policy cripped a major address from Wikipedia illuminating.


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 06:10:09 AM EST
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Re: This is important how? (none / 0)

That's a good one.  I would respond by making a "things that are important to PUMAs" list, but I can't be bothered.


by Jordache on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 06:14:47 AM EST
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Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (2.00 / 1)

So loose-bearings McCain's foreign policy "experience" is drawn from Wikipedia?

Evidently some of his advisors have discovered Wikipedia. But what about the Georgian lobbyist on McCain's staff? Didn't he have anything to offer to McCain in the way of "talking points"?


by Hempy on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:11:15 PM EST

Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (2.00 / 1)

McCain always gets a pass.  The MSM refuses to do it's job.


by nzubechukwu on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:35:04 PM EST

Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (2.00 / 1)

I believe, though maybe I should Wiki it, that Christianity became the 'official' religion of the Georgian tribal state in 330 a.d.  Which is not all that early considering that is the same time the Roman Empire did.

It is just a really odd statement to make... unless you copied it from somewhere.

Also the statement is completely a dog-whistle for Christians.  Because a country was Christian is not reason to support it in the conflict.  And, Russia, is likewise overwhelmingly Christian.  But, I guess in McCain's mind, since Missionaries didn't go to Russia until the 7th Century - the Georgians are older, and thereby better, Christians.


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by cardboard 1 on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:17:38 AM EST

Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (2.00 / 2)

Dang- if only we had known, we could have slipped some innocent misnomer into that wiki article-- just in time for his staffer to copy it.

(i.e. Georgia is not named after King George, instead, 'Georgia' is Russian for "place of conflict")


by Bob Beard on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:33:04 AM EST

Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (2.00 / 1)

Haha!

How about:

Georgia has been a long time ally of the United States, going back to when they sent over a division of grenadiers during the Revolutionary War.


When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?
by Jess81 on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 06:11:58 AM EST
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Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (none / 0)

Your partisan blinders are causing you to ignore the possibility that John McCain spends his free time contributing to wikipedia and the words appearing there are HIS words!!

yes, seriously, this is snark.


by Mobar on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 11:35:19 AM EST

Re: McCain's Plagiarism Problem (none / 0)

This is really the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? Especially since Barack "I just share campaign themes with my good friend Deval" Obama based most of his campaign on plagiarized ideas.

This, in the grand scheme of things is a pretty sad representation of what this site has become.


by apolitik on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:00:44 PM EST


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