A good compromise.

by ChitownDenny, Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:16:33 PM EST

Barack Obama states his support for FISA is a "good compromise".  Apparently, a majority of the Senate (and the House, let's remember) think so, too.  For an examination of the compromise, please watch the following:




Tags: Barack, Obama, Democrats, Democratic Party, FISA (all tags)

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Democrats are the majority party (2.00 / 2)

in both houses of Congress.  Barack Obama is the presumptive leader of the Democratic Party.  Will someone, please, step up and lead?


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:20:53 PM EST

Re: A good compromise. (none / 0)

Number 9 and counting.

Still waiting for Alive and Kicking?

Or Engels!

God, Yeah, let's have ENGELS Obama-Visa Vote Diary!

That will be SWEET!


"Either you're the butcher Or the lamb but even so, Everybody pays as they go-Jakob Dylan"
by WashStateBlue on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:21:45 PM EST

Re: A good compromise. (2.00 / 1)

Please address the subject matter.


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:22:49 PM EST
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Re: A good compromise. (none / 0)

Again?


by MeganLocke on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:27:33 PM EST
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Why? (none / 0)

I did, in the NUMEROUS other Obama-FISA-Vote diaries.

You had nothing new to add, so I didn't either.

Love Jonathan Turley, however.

Funny, I used to HATE him, during the impeachement of The Big Dog.

Maybe that is how you ardent Clinton supporters will feel about President Obama in about 2013.


"Either you're the butcher Or the lamb but even so, Everybody pays as they go-Jakob Dylan"
by WashStateBlue on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:33:15 PM EST
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Re: A good compromise. (2.00 / 1)

Still waiting for an Obama supporter on Mydd admit when Obama makes a mistake.


by soyousay on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 09:44:31 PM EST
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How about someone who actually read the Bill (none / 0)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/ 25594680#25594680

Funny how things change when there is actual information instead of hyperbole and outrage.


"Is there no keeping with class in whom we mingle with anymore?"
by Brandon on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:37:35 PM EST

Re: How about someone who actually read the Bill (none / 0)

How does a febreeze commercial prove your point?  I tried to watch the whole thing, but my eyes started to bleed.

I hate ads.


by semiquaver on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:50:17 PM EST
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Re: How about someone who actually read the Bill (none / 0)

Good clip.  Personally, I never understood why telecoms should be liable for acquiescing to White House requests.  I've always thought the issue laid at the feet of the Bush administration.  
As such, I never understood Obama's campaign promise to filibuster telecom immunity.
Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 07:58:44 PM EST
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I never understood (none / 0)

why anyone would actually think there is any credibility in a campaign promise by ANYONE.

Simple rule, vote for who you have the most faith in, not their promises...no politician will keep all their promises.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 08:16:31 PM EST
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Re: I never understood (none / 0)

Either you are smarter than I or more cynical than I.  


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 08:19:52 PM EST
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Cynical probably (none / 0)

but I've worked in politics and I quickly gave up on that idea.

I've studied politics in England and Italy and guess what? No better there either. As a matter of fact, it's probably worse.

Politicians will say and do anything to get elected, because they have to. People just won't vote for the honest guy or girl...they may respect their honesty, but they vote for the one who tells them what they want to hear...so they'll tell you what you want to hear.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 08:24:05 PM EST
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sort of on topic (none / 0)

Today was the third day this week that Rachel Maddow hosted Countdown.  I think she did last Thursday as well.  Absolutely fantastic.  I don't have cable here, but MSNBC is forward-looking enough to provide a great quality 200MB copy of every day's episode as a podcast.

They only have the current episode in the feed, but the rest are still online if you have the url.

July 7
July 8
July 9

They actually go back significantly further than that; I just tried a link from early June and it worked.


by semiquaver on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 12:34:41 AM EST

Re: A good compromise. (none / 0)

I've been pretty busy today. Can anyone fill me in on what happened?


by QTG on Thu Jul 10, 2008 at 12:45:19 AM EST


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