Free those men, and you will have my vote !!

I am going to put my vote up for an auction type sale.  The highest bidder shall have my vote.  There are no minimum bids, and I have no "reserve".

There is only one catch.  In order to make a bid, the candidate must be pre-qualified.  And in order to pre-qualify, they have to demonstrate a commitment to justice.  One way to do that:

free the Uighurs who are now detained in Guantanamo, and grant them refugee status in the US

The Uighurs are a Muslim minority group from Western China.  There are 6 Uighurs who have been in Guantanamo for 6 years ~ a product of a system that is incapable of admitting mistakes.  They were originally sold to US troops by bountyhunters in Pakistan back in 2002.  They had fled to escape fighting in Afghanistan in Nov 2001, and they had fled to Afghanistan to escape persecution in China (yes, these people actually fled to a Taliban regime).

The US government classified these people as enemy combatants based on the flimsient evidence possible (they may or may not have been associated with a group that may or may not be associated with Al Quaeda).  It continues to classify them as "enemy combatants", even though it now admits that they are not "combatants" of any sort, and that they have never been Al-Quaeda related.  The US continues to call them enemy combatants, even though the US also wants to release them.

But the US cannot release them because they cannot be turned over to China, and noone else will take them.

I say: grant them refugee staus here, give them a fair compensation and release them to lead a productive life here.  They have earned that right for the 6 years that have been taken away from them.

Candidates that publicly adopt that position will be qualified to bid for my vote.   I hear that Sen McCain has already stated his position on this issue.  I am waiting to hear from the rest of the candidates.



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Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (2.00 / 1)

Dude, half the people at G.B.(if not more) were non combatants who were just put up due to ridiculous ransoms paid with our money (and no background check to see if they were combatants), why should we only lobby for 6?


by Dog Chains on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:15:01 PM EST

Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (none / 0)

Because justice is justice, no matter what, and it's a start.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:36:48 PM EST
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I am lobbying for the 6 as a minimum.... (none / 0)

because they represent the easiest case:  even the US government agrees that those men should be freed!!


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:17:06 PM EST

Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (none / 0)

I agree with SevenStrings that this is a lot easier to justify. However, I also agree with Dog Chains that we need to be thinking about everyone in GB.

Guantanamo Bay is a disgrace to this country, as are the secret prisons and prisoner rendition that has already occurred and continues to this day. We will not be able to even begin to restore our good name until these injustices are corrected.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:30:07 PM EST

Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (none / 0)

Obama can do it without killing the US's image, too. We need a President who shows everyone that Bush does not embody our ideals. That we as a country are pushing away from his policies and pronouncing them to be wrong.

Unfortunately, for that to happen, Obama needs to win with a sizable majority, too.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:37:14 PM EST
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Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (none / 0)

I disagree...

Obama does not need a sizeable majority to do that... all he needs is balls !!

Dont forget that GWB won with the narrowest margins possible... and yet he governed like a dictator!!


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:40:48 PM EST
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Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (none / 0)

Well, I was speaking less about Obama's credibility at home than I was the entire nation's credibility in general. If a big percentage of us STILL support a Republican who promises to do what W did, that doesn't say much good about us as a whole.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:15:55 PM EST
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Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (none / 0)

Vote selling is no joke, you saw what happened to that poor eBay kid, right?


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:37:59 PM EST

Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (none / 0)

I dont think there is any law against vote selling... or is there ?


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 01:41:14 PM EST
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Re: Free those men, and you will have my vote !! (none / 0)

Well, there was in Minnesota.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:13:16 PM EST
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Wow... (none / 0)

Okay, if the feds are watching this...I should clarify.

I am not really offering my vote for "sale" (in exchange for money ~ a practice which is very reprehensible).  I am offering it to anyone who will take a certain position that advances justice.  And no, I do not have any ebay listing associated with this.

There is a big difference... please dont come after me =)


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 02:40:50 PM EST
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