Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food Requirements?

The New York Times reported Sunday that delays and cost overruns are plaguing convention planners who are running into rising costs and missed deadlines:

With the Denver convention less than two months away, problems range from the serious -- upwardly spiraling costs on key contracts still being negotiated -- to the mundane, like the reluctance of local caterers to participate because of stringent rules on what delegates will be eating, down to the color of the food. At last count, plans to renovate the inside of the Pepsi Center for the Democrats are $6 million over budget, which may force convention planners to scale back on their original design or increase their fund-raising goals.

"Major decisions are being settled only at the last minute," said one convention organizer, who requested anonymity because of the confidentiality of the contracting process. "These contracts should have been out and signed last March or April. We still have no agreement on the budget or the scope of the work for the build-out at the Pepsi Center. There is no reason why it is so late, why important issues have not been addressed and why we are trying to figure these things out at the last minute."

Problems include logistics, stringent recycling requirements, and then, and then:

And then there is the food: A 28-page contract requested by Denver organizers that caterers provide food in "at least three of the following five colors: red, green, yellow, blue/purple and white." Garnishes could not be counted toward the colors. No fried foods would be allowed. Organic and locally grown foods were mandated, and each plate had to be 50 percent fruits and vegetables. As a result, caterers are shying away.

How did the food requirements grow to 28 pages? And why, if they are behind in fundraising and missing deadlines, are they not relaxing these food requirements?

The Democratic convention is already running behind in its fund-raising. At last count, the convention was about $11 million short of the $40.6 million needed to stage the event -- even before cost overruns were taken into consideration. This has prompted local newspapers to suggest in editorials that the Obama campaign should step in and begin to raise money for the committee.

Even more, those involved in the convention preparations portray Denver and party organizers as having squandered precious time, pushing critical decision-making into the final hours when it is more difficult to keep a lid on costs. Already, plans to have two dozen parties for the 56 delegations at locations throughout Denver were canceled, and instead there will be a single party at the city's convention center.


UPDATE: Campskunk makes a great point - please comment with your suggested recipes that would meet the Convention Host Committee's food requirements. To review, the food must be:
  1. at least 50 percent fruits and vegetables on each plate
  2. at least three of the following five colors: red, green, yellow, blue/purple and white. (Garnishes do not count.)
  3. not fried
  4. organic
  5. locally grown (at how many miles from Denver is food no longer considered "locally grown"?)

    1. Poll
      Convention Food Requirements
      too strict
      too fancy
      teh awesome
      lame

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Tips for a good convention (2.00 / 4)

Maybe this plays well on the TV cameras: food with "at least three of the following five colors: red, green, yellow, blue/purple and white."


by catfish2 on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 11:24:12 PM EST

Re: Tips for a good convention (1.71 / 14)

Hey - I saw you on Alegre's corner calling the dogs over to harass Sricki in one of her diaries.  That was not nice - about 20 people came in out of nowhere and attacked her.

I was actually disappointed in you.


by MeganLocke on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 11:25:56 PM EST
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You mean you weren't before? (2.00 / 5)

That said, I agree with this diary completely--which may be the first time I've ever agreed with catfish2 on anything.  Well, you know what they say: even a broken clock...

Recc'd.


Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?
by Elsinora on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 11:31:18 PM EST
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Calling out the dogs? Not my intention (2.00 / 1)

I pointed to the diary because for some of us, this Obama phenomenon is like the Twighlight Zone. We simply don't see what the magic is.

I did not encourage anybody to harass sricki and am very sorry you got that impression.


by catfish2 on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 11:38:59 PM EST
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Re: Calling out the dogs? Not my intention (2.00 / 2)

Was everybody enamored with Kerry?

Gore?

Clinton?

You're less enamored with Obama than his strongest supporters. So what? Why would it seem noteworthy that others like the candidate better than him/her to anyone but a narcissist or member of a cult?


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 11:46:38 PM EST
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Ahem. The food requirements (none / 0)

Please comment. Why so strick?


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:04:35 AM EST
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strict not strick n/t (none / 0)


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:15:54 AM EST
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Re: Calling out the dogs? Not my intention (none / 0)

Well, considering how much you dislike it when trolls hit over there, perhaps you should be more mindful of the company you keep.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 02:50:56 AM EST
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Re: Calling out the dogs? Not my intention (2.00 / 1)

If you link to a pro-Obama diary there, it's a call for people to attack and troll-rate.  

If you didn't realize what you were doing, then why did you sit by and let them attack her and say that she had never been a Clinton supporter when it became clear that your post was a call to arms?


by MeganLocke on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 11:47:36 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (2.00 / 2)

Over the New Politics tripe? Spare me. That stuff was hard enough to take during the primaries, given Obama's enthusiastic embrace of old politics it is way past its sell-by date. Even slim manages to keep it more real in her weekly Obama adulation, and she has much better pictures.

I miss the bitter, old coalition Democrats. I'm glad to see some of them coming back.


by souvarine on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 11:45:38 PM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (2.00 / 2)

Please try to stay on topic.

Your rant has nothing to do with this wonderful diary.

Right Liberty? (see downthread)


Mooseburgers? Careful Sarah. Moose bite back!
by spacemanspiff on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 02:46:07 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (none / 0)

touché.


by souvarine on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 07:50:05 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (2.00 / 3)

Heh, "Alegre's corner."  It's like the poor man's (or woman's) NO QUARTER.  


by username on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:10:09 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (2.00 / 3)

Here's a nugget from one of her worthless-as-usual posts today, regarding Webb's refusal:

Guess he's joining the ever-growing crowd who are telling BHO "thanks but no thanks."  They're starting to realize it'd be a sure loss and I doubt anyone wants to jump on a sinking ship.

What a nutjob. It's like a peak into a counter-reality.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 01:20:29 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (2.00 / 2)

Your commentary has zero purpose to the subject matter of this diary.

If you have an issue with another blogger, have the integrity and decency to confront that individual on her site instead of lifting their statements and bringing them here.....


by Liberty on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 01:29:15 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (2.00 / 2)

Ha! Cute.

I do hope you're equally diligent about your Off-Topic Patrol duties in all the diaries and threads around here. It must be hard work to keep the entire site so intently focused.

And, uh, sorry, but if you're going to toss around terms like "integrity" and "decency," you might consider directing some of that pomposity toward the PUMA party-traitors in question. But of course you won't.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 01:46:24 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (2.00 / 2)

The content of this diary is about the NYT's piece in respect to the convention committee's latest saga.

Now, if you have a problem with a blogger or others have the decency to initiate your own flipping diary instead of subjecting others to your crud slinging that isn't justified HERE in this specific diary.

Why should I be exposed to your rantings in THIS DIARY?????

It is tiresome....every flipping diary someone has to go off on some off topic tirade..

Some simple respect for crying out loud...GEEZE!


by Liberty on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 01:55:21 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (none / 0)

Yet you said nothing when another person started ranting about Obama just a couple comments above mine. And now we're really taking poor catfish's diary off-topic by continuing this, aren't we?


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 02:16:40 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (none / 0)

Johnny...do what you gotta do...

Enjoy yourself...lift to heart's content...
rage over PUMA...hijack discussions...

I have stated my piece/peace...


by Liberty on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 02:27:08 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (none / 0)

You've already guaranteed that the first dozen posts here have nothing to do with the topic.  Congrats.


by MeganLocke on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 11:50:33 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (none / 0)

I didn't realize that was a core tenant of the Blogger Code of Integrity and Decency.  Link?


by username on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 10:42:46 AM EST
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Re: Tips for a good convention (none / 0)

Yes, that's exactly why, and it says so in the article.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 02:49:09 AM EST
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Time To Relax The Convention's Food Requirements (1.85 / 7)

look, it's easy... serve a salad with every meal. a little radicchio, some tomatoes, a yellow bell pepper... one little salad and you can do this easily.


by campskunk on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:03:48 AM EST

Maybe it's TOO easy. I smell a conspiracy (2.00 / 2)

this was meant to give an overpriced contract to a favorite corporate crony!


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:05:48 AM EST
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Aha good idea campskunk (none / 0)

Updated the diary to request recipe suggestions for Denver Host Committee.


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:12:17 AM EST
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Menu retardation (2.00 / 2)

Maybe some arugula...  and a soy latte afterwards?


by username on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:12:39 AM EST
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OK and a third color - blue latte sprinkles? (2.00 / 2)

arugula=green, soy latte=white (foam) blue latte sprinkles=home free!


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:17:05 AM EST
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Nah, sprinkles are a garnish. (2.00 / 4)

I suggest stuffed bell peppers.  Buy red, yellow, green, and orange bell peppers, slice them in half and roast them for 20-25 minutes.  While they roast, make up a big pot of cheesy brown rice, then mix in some halved cherry tomatoes, fresh basil, baby spinach, and baby portabello mushroom slices.  Fill the roasted bell pepper "bowls" with the rice mix, and voila!

Colorful as hell, full of good hearty veggies, and tasty beyond belief.


Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?
by Elsinora on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 01:07:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Campskunk: (none / 0)

If you troll rate me for a non-personal attack I will troll rate you back.  Perhaps this should be my sig line, at least when I post anywhere where NoQuarter thugs are likely to show up.


by MeganLocke on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 06:24:53 PM EST
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Re: Is It Time To Relax (2.00 / 4)

Since the convention committee is struggling with money issues, I would think they would be happy to go with a simpler menu.  Why in the world is this set up like this anyway?  Seems someone who is a little anal was appointed to the food committee and ran amuck.


by Scotch on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:14:07 AM EST

Someone's OCD (2.00 / 1)

was unleashed.


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:17:53 AM EST
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Re: Someone's OCD (2.00 / 1)

Peter principle. Rev. Daughtry is in way over her head.


by souvarine on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:24:08 AM EST
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Re: Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food Requ (2.00 / 1)

The convention committee is broke!


by QTG on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:18:39 AM EST

Re: Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food Requ (2.00 / 1)

The committee is bankrupt from a perception standpoint..

Disgraceful, a PR disaster when families are struggling to put food on the table with economy tanking...


by Liberty on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:32:07 AM EST
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Re: Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food Requ (2.00 / 1)

Is this snark?  Serious question.  

LOL  Ok that was a joke.  But seriously, the food requirements sound really dumb, especially considering the state of the economy right now.  What is traditional convention fare?  


by JustJennifer on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:33:37 AM EST

Good point (none / 0)

never thought of how it reflects on the economy. Oh my god - and the Repubs with McCain will run as the anti-slick party, the thrifts.


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 01:34:55 AM EST
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Re: Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food Requ (2.00 / 7)

I notice you didn't include the DNC response to this article.


Statement From DNC Chairman Dean And Convention CEO Daughtry On New York Times Sunday Story by Howard Dean and Leah Daughtry on July 05, 2008

We are proud to stand at the helm of the finest Convention team we've known. As the arm of the national Party tasked with planning and organizing the Democratic National Convention in Denver, the Democratic National Convention Committee has been at this for more than a year. And we take great pride in our work. That's why we were astonished to read in Sunday's New York Times such a gross misrepresentation of the groundwork that has been laid to date.

The New York Times asserts that this is a Democratic convention effort "marred by costly setbacks." That is false. In fact we are ahead of the game. Anyone who has ever worked on a national political Convention would tell you as much. This is a well managed Convention.

The New York Times states that the Convention is facing "upwardly spiraling costs on key contracts still being negotiated." That is false. All major contracts have been executed and we are on track to move in to the Pepsi Center to begin build out on Monday as planned.

The New York Times implies that the Convention has imposed eating restrictions on delegates to the Convention. That is false. Democrats at the Pepsi Center and other official Convention venues can have all the fried goodies they can stomach. Talk of anything to the contrary is just plain silly.

The New York Times reports that Democrats are $6 million over budget in Convention planning and have failed to estimate costs properly. That is false. From day one, prudent budgeting and financial management have been an important part of our Convention planning - across the board.

The New York Times states that "overly ambitious environmental goals" from Convention organizers have backfired, citing a lack of interest from delegates in the effort. That is false. In fact, hundreds of delegates have already signed on to the "Green Delegate Challenge," and we anticipate recently selected delegates to join in the weeks ahead.

Despite uninformed criticism in the New York Times and the city's worries about the color and fried nature of food among other things, our focus remains on putting on an historic event that helps keep Senator Barack Obama on a path to victory in November. When August comes, the eyes of the world will be watching. And we'll be ready.

Governor Howard Dean, Chairman, Democratic National Committee
Leah D. Daughtry, CEO, Democratic National Convention Committee


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 12:52:53 AM EST

Re: Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food Requ (none / 0)

So, there are no food restrictions then?  I would think that convention food would be like any food you get at a big event - some healthier options available but for the most part your usual burgers, fries, nachos, pizza.. crap food.  


by JustJennifer on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 04:00:06 AM EST
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Re: Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food Requ (none / 0)

I have no idea. I just posted the DNC response to the NY Times article. I don't know whether that response is the truth or the NY Times article is the truth. Maybe there's some truth in both.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 10:50:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Yeah, there's also a requirement that the balloons (2.00 / 2)

be biodegradable. And then we wonder why people think that we're "elitist", and a non-serious party. This is the very kind of crap that gets under the skin of average Americans.

To those who say it's not worth commenting about, I'd respond that it's probably too trivial to include in convention planning as well. I mean, why even bother?


by BJJ Fighter on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 01:05:17 AM EST

It's really strange, a high-leve person quit (none / 0)

she was a volunteer coordinator. She told the paper (forget which one) she felt like she couldn't do her job.

Something weird is going on, maybe Howie Dean just doesn't perceive when something's going wrong and somebody needs to be demoted, fired, or ordered to pull things together.


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 01:33:43 AM EST
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Is this anything new? (none / 0)

Quick Google search produced this article from 2004:
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/conv entions/articles/2004/05/13/convention_b udget_overruns_pose_new_woes/
and this article from 2000 where they had to borrow from the city of Los Angeles:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/06/1 6/politics/main206823.shtml

The budget restrictions are forcing them to adapt and move forward, but every project ever has to go through that. You scrap what you want for what you need. The nice part of being a Republican is that you never have to worry about this stuff. Campaign donations might suffer, but the conventions aren't subject to regulations and restrictions, so I'm sure they'll have a grand old time.

The only reason this is getting any news is because of the food restrictions and biofriendly decorations. Those were overly ambitious ideas, but hardly a warning sign.

When will Democrats learn that we can't trust any major media source except Keith Olbermann to be truly fair to us? Even ones like the NYT will bend over backwards to attack extra hard every so often in the interest of "objectivity".


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 02:47:50 AM EST

Re: Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food (2.00 / 2)

I'm from New Jersey.  Our local cuisine traditionally consists of brown and light brown with brown juice leaking out of it.  But even I know that 3 colors per meal is not usually considered an onerous fucking requirement.

Anyway, here's my dish that satisfies the convention food requirements: A cheeseburger and french fries.  See, because the NYT left out the part about how these rules are for a special "Lean 'n Green" category and don't apply to the convention food in general!  Hilarious!


by HEAP on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 03:15:33 AM EST

Re: Is It Time To Relax The Convention's Food (none / 0)

See, because the NYT left out the part about how these rules are for a special "Lean 'n Green" category and don't apply to the convention food in general!

Now that would explain a lot. This is how these kinds of stories get started. Someone gives incomplete information and blows something way out of proportion. Gee, the media wouldn't do that would they? Especially when it gives them a chance to make the Dems look silly?
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 10:54:29 AM EST
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Feeding stereotypes (2.00 / 1)

I made a comment towards you the other night about you not providing any worthwhile content to this site and only providing negativity via comments.  I take it back, as this is an issue that we should actually be paying attention to and I appreciate the fact that you brought it up.

In regards to the convention, we have some crazy requirements.  While most are stupid on face, the worst is by far the "locally grown" stipulation.  The idea of local farmers to be able to provide enough food for the entire convention brings up some serious financial concerns, and when coupled with the organic only/color restrictions it makes these requirements look absolutely ridiculous.  We couldn't be feeding the right wing stereotype of elitist and out of touch if any more we tried.  We might as well add in a Berkenstocks-only addendum if we're going to work strictly off of ideology and ignore common sense.

So yes, in short, I agree that we need to relax the convention's food requirements.  That being said, I'm also concerned that I'm agreeing with you... haha.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 03:26:26 AM EST


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