Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway...

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i always tell people that the first door -- by which i mean the first person you talk to -- is the hardest.  you don't know what to expect when you're in a new state or new campaign or new year, no matter how many times you've done it before.

here i am in florida, and i didn't even have to look at the list.  i knew i was in republican territory.  north part of orlando, close to winter park, homes built around a couple of small lakes.  i knock on the first door and i look to see the party registration.  republican.  of course.  but no one is home, so i leave the lit and move on.  rinse and repeat for the second door.  the third door is right next door.  another republican.  i didn't even have to look, there was a contribution envelope in response to a direct mail plea from john mccain.  the faint blue check could be seen through it in the bright sun light.  i thought about not knocking on the door (the outgoing mail was clipped to the door), but i figure, wtf.  it's on my list.  and that's why i'm here.

i have on my blue obama shirt and the lady who answers the door says, "i don't want to talk to anyone supporting obama!"  i pretend i haven't seen the envelope.

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"so how would you like me to code this?" i ask with my warmest smile.  "i can mark you as a 4, leaning mccain, or as a 5, a strong supporter of john mccain."

"make me a 5," she replies.  "obama's gonna be president, anyway," she says.  "i'm telling you, we won't like it.  come back and talk to me six months after he's president.  i dare you."  she tells me that she's not really enthusiastic about mccain, but she's afraid of where she thinks barack will take us.  she tells me twice that it's not mccain she's voting for, she's voting against obama.  just so i know (maybe i'm supposed to be demoralized).

this is not normal.  especially not in florida.  in florida, republicans tend to be confident, even when they shouldn't be.  ask jeb bush in 1994.  but not today.  not here in the all-critical i-4 corridor.  this is not normal.

the second person i talked to, a few doors down, was also republican.  "not your guy," he tells me.  i go through the same spiel.  he doesn't like any of the choices he tells me.  "the guy i wanted to run didn't," he says and struggles to remember his name.  after his description, i offer newt gingrich's name up.  "yeah, him.  i'm really conservative," he says, concerned about abortion, gay marriage, etc.  a social conservative, i think to myself.  this is the land of many churches, and sunday's sacred here -- church and then football.  god save the preacher whose sermon keeps members from seeing the kickoff!  still, we had a pleasant conversation.  i remind him that he has other choices besides john mccain.  "didn't howard phillips run last time?" i ask, not remembering if phillips is considered a social or economic conservative.  a vote taken away from mccain still helps.

i continue to knock on doors around the lake with no luck.  but then i come across a couple who are listed on my sheets as registered republicans.  they're undecided, they tell me.  i hand them my lit which is conveniently entitled, "meet barack obama."  i ask them what are their issues, their concerns.  "everything," the women says.  "there's a lot to think about," she tells me.  her husband nods.

three republicans, among the first three people i talk to.  a 5, a 4 and two 3s (undecided).  not a single enthusiastic supporter of john mccain.  this is not normal, especially in florida.  this is something different.

the moment i got off lake shore drive (the one in florida), things took an uptick.  bang, bang -- two obama supporters.  two obama signs in their windows.  in florida, of all places!  i took pictures, just because i thought there were people who might have trouble believing that barack has enthusiastic support right here in the all critical i-4 corridor.  one of the ladies i talked to was feeling pretty confident, too.  "i'm telling all my gop friends about obama," she confides.  "we're gonna win some of them."

the next person i talk to, a recently graduated journalism student, tells me he's leaning obama.  the rest of the house supports him, he admits.  "but i want to decide for myself."  he's my only 3l, leaning towards obama.

the next house i get someone at is a husband and wife, 44 and 43.  four years ago, this combination invariably meant bush supporters.  i think about that as i'm waiting for a response.  the wife comes to the door.  "not obama," she says, but quite pleasantly.  they're voting for mccain, she says.  i smile (again) and move on.  narrowing the universe -- almost as important as finding supporters because we don't have to waste volunteer or staff time on them.

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i knock on the door of a woman who apparently just got home from work.  she was reading email, she tells me, her young daughter tugs at her leg.  "we're undecided," she tells me.  they are former republicans, she admits.  the economy and the environment are her first concerns, but also health care.  she's a biologist, and she's afraid "socialized medicine" will mean she will lose her job.  "if obama adopts hillary's health care plan, i'll never work again."  i refer her to the website and mention that hillary criticized barack's health care plan.  i tell her i think that he will propose something that he believes will pass congress -- but i'm just not sure, i admit.  go to barack obama dot com, i tell her, there's lots of detail there.

like the social conservative i met earlier, we have a lengthy conversation.  i tell her that as undecided voters, she and her husband are at the center of the political storm.  "you'll get lots of contact," i say.  she replies that it's fine, "every person will have a different story," she says, " a different reason why they support their candidate."  her real beef with barack is rev. wright, she admits.  i tell her that no one speaks for barack but barack.  don't judge him by his pastor.  she admits that she doesn't agree with everything her pastor says.  "no one does," i reply.

then i tell her my story from my brother, who's a methodist minister here (in florida).  he gave a sermon about change in the church but he used the term change a lot in the course of his sermon.  he got lots of feedback from a few parishioners that they thought he was politicizing the church by using the term change.  they thought just by using the term change he was signaling his support of barack.  he was just arguing that the church needs to change to stay relevant through the ages!

she laughs.  but she gets the point.  we don't always agree with what anybody says, even when we really like them.  "check his positions out on the website," i repeat.  she wanted to know more about barack and i did the best i could under the circumstances.

the last person i talk to is another enthusiastic supporter.  "you ought to volunteer," i tell her (just as i encouraged the others).  i leave the office phone number, just in case.  or sign up on the website.  but we need your help, i tell her.

yesterday afternoon, i hit 75 doors before it started to pour.  i talked to people at 29.33% of them, slightly below average.  in this little area that is definitely republican, 6 people told me they supported barack, 1 person said he was leaning towards barack, 6 people said they were undecided, 1 person said he was leaning towards mccain and 5 people said they were supporting john mccain.  this was perhaps 20-25% of one precinct.  still, it was remarkably encouraging.  and this is an area where we need all the encouragement we can get.

the signs are that the obama campaign is taking winning florida very seriously.  i recognize some of the faces here from the primaries in ohio and pennsylvania.  rhodes cook notes that democratic registration is up by 7,625 while republican registration is down 12,745.  my own canvassing supports this, as i found voters who had moved from republican to undeclared over the last few years.  note that his numbers do not reflect the registration efforts currently underway by the obama campaign and their organizing fellows.

the real discovery -- and what i could not have expected -- is that the enthusiasm gap among the electorate in florida has shifted from the republicans to the democrats.  remember that florida was one of the few states where more republicans turned out in the primary than did democrats (1,924,346 to 1,734,456).  in democratic volusia county, republicans drew 52,710 voters while democrats drew 50,350.  in brevard county, 87,993 republican ballots (61.67%) were cast while 63,884 democrats ballots were cast (55.34%).  in orange county, where democrats out-registered republicans 203,829 to 175,336 back in january, republicans drew 91,742 voters and democrats 88,157.  in polk county, where democrats out-registered republicans 122,476 to 114,565, democrats had 48,050 voters show up while 57,060 republicans turned out.  only osceola -- the smallest of the i-4 corridor counties had a favorable democratic showing.  even in hillsborough county, where democrats out-register republicans 247,948 to 213,574, republicans turned out 101,464 voters while only 94,951 democrats showed up.

florida is a tough nut to crack -- more so because it has expensive media markets and a divided democratic party that has basically lost any institutional integrity.  there is no state in the competitive range that needs grassroots help more.  consider the wide discrepancies between voter turnout in democratic counties and republican counties in the primary.  in the ten counties with the highest voter turnout, the republican counties were registering turnout in the 50s while democratic counties were in the 30s and traditional swing counties were in the 40s:













CountyRegistered VotersBallots CastT/O Percentage
Totals:10,203,1124,239,35041.50%
<font color=blue>Miami-Dade</font>1,085,527396,597<font color=blue>36.50%</font>
<font color=blue>Broward</font>890,836340,298<font color=blue>38.20%</font>
<font color=blue>Palm Beach</font>782,748306,302<font color=blue>39.10%</font>
Pinellas604,337249,60141.30%
<font color=blue>Hillsborough</font>608,239226,160<font color=blue>37.20%</font>
Orange508,185209,52441.20%
<font color=blue>Duval</font>558,658189,400<font color=blue>33.90%</font>
<font color=red>Brevard</font>317,165169,632<font color=red>53.50%</font>
<font color=red>Lee</font>263,968151,520<font color=red>57.40%</font>
<font color=red>Sarasota</font>241,870127,025<font color=red>52.50%</font>

turnout is all about voter contact, the face to face efforts by volunteers.  the obama campaign is basically starting from scratch -- there was no primary in order to build a base, there is no real party organization in more than a handful of counties, and the electorate has yet to lock in impressions of either candidate.  to win in florida, the obama campaign needs to find and mobilize thousands and thousands of volunteers, and it needs to do so quickly.  the republican party is not only better organized in the state, it has trained people on the ground able to turnout gop voters.  because democrats skipped over the state, florida democrats did not benefit from the presence of two active campaigns who worked to get out the democratic vote.  local democrats did not get this valuable experience -- even more valuable given the state of disrepair in the florida democratic party.  so the need for volunteer support is critical and immediate.  sign up now to help win the state.  steve schale argues that if obama wins florida, obama goes to the white house as our next president.  kind of hard to argue with that...



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Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (2.00 / 1)

I know Lake Shore Drive very well and glad to hear you came across at least a few Obama supporters in your canvas. A few years ago it would have been none. The times they are a changing.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:50:26 AM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (2.00 / 1)

I am from Florida and you should talk about social security with these older folks.  Tell them that McBush thinks social security is a shame.  He thinks that social security should be privatized.  Tell them about the madicare bill that McBush did not support and recently passed  and Bush wanted to veto.  They need to know.


by Spanky on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:05:35 AM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (none / 0)

medicate not madicare  


by Spanky on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:06:23 AM EST

Nice work (2.00 / 2)

You're doing a great job canvassing.  Keep it up.


You can't stop the signal.

President "That One"

by Dracomicron on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:15:39 AM EST

Excellent Diary (2.00 / 3)

I love diaries from people on the ground.  Good or bad, they give a real sense of what non-blog people are thinking.

Recced


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:21:35 AM EST

Re: Excellent Diary (2.00 / 1)

Agreed.  Love hearing from the front lines.

Rec'd.


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:51:32 AM EST
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Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (2.00 / 1)

Great job.  Congratulations.


by Susan from 29 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:52:02 AM EST

You're my hero for today..... (2.00 / 3)

Thank you for your hard work on behalf of the Democratic party.

Cold calling, or doorbelling takes guts, and real committment. I am in sales, I know sometimes you have to handle people who frankly just want to dump on you, but sounds like you handle it with style and grace. That's so important, cause, the impression of YOU might be that one thing they remember if they are wavering in the voting booth.

For all the sturm und drang about billionaire fundraiser arguing, and pundits yaking, it's folks like you Senator Obama is counting on to end this run of criminal behavior in the Whitehouse.

Polls, pundits, gaffes, all come and go.

Soldiers on the ground win wars.


Rush Limbaugh, Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber...The Triad of Republican Irrelevancy.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:54:05 AM EST

the worst part about the dumpers (none / 0)

is the time they waste. You know you could be going on to the next house (earning more money, etc), but you want to be nice, and sometimes they're interesting.


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:25:22 PM EST
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Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (2.00 / 1)

Great diary.  Bonus points for adding the table.  I  know what a pain in the a$$ they are to format in html.  ;)

Kudos!


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 11:55:42 AM EST

Rec'd and (2.00 / 3)

thanks for your hard work. 75 doors!

/salute


by Neef on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:00:04 PM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (2.00 / 1)

Clinton won Florida in 1996, and we know who really won in 2000. Florida can be won.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:10:44 PM EST

clinton won florida by basically destroying... (none / 0)

the democratic party in the state.  his absolute hatred of southern progressives like reubin askew and lawton chiles means that florida still bares the scars of his idiocy.  no one else is more responsible for the fact that florida has been a gop stronghold than bill clinton.  you may like him but his political skills are amateurish.  even if you don't like southern progressives, it was absolute lunacy to destroy the florida democratic party because of one's petty concerns...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:18:38 PM EST
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Unity! (1.50 / 2)

Is that what they taught you in your fellowship?


by catfish2 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:46:35 PM EST
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we are unified... (2.00 / 1)

more unified than any election i can remember.  sure, there may be a lot of noise coming from those who won't support democrats this year, but that doesn't mean we are less unified.  having gone through prior presidentials and knowing the polls from prior years, i know this.

look, i understand that people who support a 50-state strategy and those who support a one-man (or woman) strategy are going to clash.  it's a clash of values.  but it's not a clash between democrats.  democrats are united behind their nominee.  and enthusiastically so!


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 12:55:01 PM EST
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I assume you tamp down (1.50 / 2)

the anti-Bill Clinton rhetoric in trying to unify the country behind Obama. Because a lot of people saw their life improve when Bill Clinton was president. He was an imperfect president, but he was pretty good. And Democrats do not have a lot of presidents in the last 6 administrations they can say that about.


by catfish2 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:34:44 PM EST
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let's just agree that he was imperfect... (2.00 / 1)

and i'll count florida as one of his imperfections.  

i didn't make an anti-clinton comment, i noted the obstacles that were left behind in his wake here in florida.  you decided that it was anti-clinton, rather than just a fact we (here in florida) have to deal with.  since i'm fairly certain that you aren't interested in seeing obama elected president (based on your past comments), i can understand why you took offense...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:43:50 PM EST
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So inside the Obama campaign (1.50 / 2)

is this the popular sentiment? That

- Florida still bares the scars of his (Bill Clinton's) idiocy.  

  • no one else is more responsible for the fact that florida has been a gop stronghold than bill clinton.  (Even though Bill Clinton won the state in 1996 and Hillary won it in the primary?)
  • that his (Bill Clinton's) political skills are amateurish.  
  • that he destroyed the florida democratic party because of one's petty concerns...

No that isn't an anti-Clinton comment.


by catfish2 on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 03:24:25 PM EST
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no, it's not... (2.00 / 1)

i'm sorry if you can't handle the truth.  please don't allow me (or it) to get in the way of believing what you want or need to believe.  you will be much happier that way.  while you're trying to divide democrats, we're trying to win the presidency.  i realize that is contrary to your goals...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 03:39:46 PM EST
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Re: clinton won florida by basically destroying... (2.00 / 1)

So I'm guessing you preferred losing Florida if it meant protecting your southern progressives?

It's about the most WTF comment I've read this week.


by Sieglinde on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:01:17 PM EST
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Re: clinton won florida by basically destroying... (2.00 / 1)

or we could have worked together.  now there's a thought!

i don't know exactly what clinton had against southern progressives, although we had a much more expensive idea about how education should be used to mitigation segregation and racism then he might have liked.  and clearly, we didn't fit into his dlc/third way mindset.  but to systematically destroy a state party?  that's not an indication of political leadership, it's an indicator of a cult of personality.

if you have an inclination towards either-or thinking, perhaps there was no other possible result.  but it would never occur to me that the only way for bill clinton to have won florida would have been to destroy the florida democratic party.  if so, that really would show what an ephemeral presidency clinton really was...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:11:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: clinton won florida by basically destroying... (2.00 / 2)

"no one else is more responsible for the fact that florida has been a gop stronghold than bill clinton"

I find that a little hyperbolic.

There were probably a lot of factors, among them, the courting of the Cuban refugee population by the Republics?

Blaming the big dog seems a bit off to me, unless you have some documentation.

I think Bill probably won there, because, he was so good at appealing across boundaries, got a really large majority of the Jewish vote, women, etc.

It's how he won everplace else?


Rush Limbaugh, Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber...The Triad of Republican Irrelevancy.
by WashStateBlue on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:23:24 PM EST
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Re: clinton won florida by basically destroying... (2.00 / 1)

it might feel hyperbolic from so far away.  politics is messy, and those involved in it get muddy.  i don't feel a need to ignore the effects just because others don't want to hear it.  he didn't win here because he destroyed the party.  he won here despite the fact that he destroyed the florida democratic party.  it was a stupid thing to do, and a complete waste of intellectual and political time...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:15:23 PM EST
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eh what? (none / 0)

I've never heard about this.  How did he destroy the party there?  I did some googling Clinton and Eskew and Chiles and I don't see anything talking about that.  Can you expand on this?


by JJE on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:16:54 PM EST
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do you live in florida? (2.00 / 1)

while i think it would be great for someone to write a history of southern progressives in florida, and especially about the yeoman's work done by askew, chiles and others in working to resolve racial and social injustice here, i'm not at all surprised that you didn't found something on the web about events that took place in the early 90s.

this is not the first time i've mentioned this.  clinton refused funding for the florida democratic party at various times in his first few years -- resulting in the considerable loss of stature for the party and the loss of the state headquarters building it owned in tally.  southern progressives were shunned by the white house, and two of them were refused credentials at the 1996 convention ("we have replaced you," they were told).  local parties were told that they would only be supported by the dnc "once they were rid of the troublemakers (the experienced activists who elected askew and chiles)."

numerous meetings were held where national party officials remmed out florida democratic party leaders because they wouldn't denounce reubin askew (especially).  there was only one way -- the dlc/centrist approach of bill clinton and his people.  i know that i can specifically remember the chair of the dnc telling us "we were not southerners" (which is true for some of the state) and that we needed to start acting like south'ners (iow, much more conservative) in order to support the president.  most floridians didn't realize that they couldn't do both.

bill clinton himself admitted to telling his contributors that they weren't supposed to contribute to the florida democratic party.  i remember raising this specifically with al gore in the summer of 2000, when he came to florida to prepare for his debate with bush.  i told him specifically that he couldn't count on florida because clinton had destroyed the party here.  "i know," is the response i recall (sarah, his health care advisor, might remember more specifically).

this is not news.  it is only relevant when you want to put florida in the blue column.  catfish isn't interested in that at all.  he's trying to divide democrats, and using hero worship in this particular instance as his mechanism.  the fact is that anyone trying to organize this state for democrats understands the challenges left behind by clinton's destructive behavior more than a decade ago.  basically, the obama campaign is starting from square one here in florida.  pretty much outside the clinton favorites of dade, broward, west palm and hillsborough, there is no real organization to speak of on the democratic side.  the county i'm in (brevard) has barely a third of the number of precinct captains that it had a decade ago.  the same is true of polk and volusia counties.

for those of us in florida, it's time to pick up the load and deliver.  sitting in front of the computer -- especially in the attempt to divide democrats, like catfish does -- doesn't cut it.  obama has no voter id's, no volunteer lists, no ground game to graft onto.  all it has, from what i can tell, are the people who have expressed interest in electing democrats online.  florida is the state were the netroots has to step up and step into the vacuum.

trying to sustain one's hero worship of a long-gone president just because they don't want to know about the bad things he did doesn't help.  it only makes democrats weaker.  but i am quite certain that is catfish's goal.  i'm just not playing along...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 09:16:19 PM EST
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thanks for the explanation (none / 0)

do you have any idea why Clinton did this?  Was it personal animosity between him and Askew/Chiles?


by JJE on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 09:34:13 PM EST
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sorry, i don't... (none / 0)

i don't know of any animosity between clinton and the florida southern progressives.  but jimmy carter is also in the same category (although not nearly as successful as reubin askew was in using education to resolve problems of segregation and racial/social injustice), and some people felt that we (florida) took the brunt of clinton's strong feelings about carter...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:05:40 PM EST
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Re: do you live in florida? (none / 0)

Brilliant comment.  Some of the most interesting insider stuff I've read here.  Thanks.


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 02:34:58 AM EST
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First I heard of this stuff (none / 0)

But then I moved to Florida in '99, after all of the stuff described here.  I did talk to Lawton Chiles at the '96 convention, but in that context there was no way he would have brought up what you describe.

I will say that I am amazed at the state of the FDP.  It was when I moved here, and still seems to me, horribly underfunded and undermanned.  Now my perception may be wrong (I moved to Florida from Vermont where there is a strong Democratic Party) but every race I have seen has featured underfunded Democrats.

Example: everyday I drive thorough the heart of the African American community in Tampa.  I seldom see any signs or evidence of organization.  Even in 2000 I recall precisely 1 person doing visability on election day in the African American Community in Tampa.


by fladem on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 10:59:18 AM EST
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the party here used to be stronger... (none / 0)

but it also used to be based out of central florida (before there was really an i-4, let alone i-4 corridor).  chiles was from lakeland, mckay from deland (askew came from somewhere in the panhandle, where democratic infrastructure was also decimated in the 1990s).  in the 1970s, the local county democratic parties (again, volusia over to polk, excepting seminole and osceola) had full slates of precinct leadership and monthly party meetings were mandatory.  it was a vibrant party, with its own internal squabbles, and in many places, the primary determined everything.

the thing that president clinton did that was really destructive was openly taking sides in the internal battles (that pitted southern progressives against more conservative dems, usually aligned with the developers and major property owners).  our loose confederation, where primary battles were fierce -- and for all the marbles -- were suddenly open wounds with profound resentments.  the fact is, clinton choose the wrong side, not just on the issues of desegregation and education, because republicans had been taking the mainstays of the more conservative democrats away from the florida democratic party since the mid-1980s.  not too many developers, grove owners or ranchers who are democrats anymore (and even the environmentally conscious developers, like jim swann, are still republicans).

african-american leadership not specifically loyal to clinton got purged.  all of the florida civil rights leadership here when i was growing up was.  the clinton administration denied federal funds to urban leagues in central florida whose leadership were not chosen by the clintons.  welfare reform was not the only place where african americans got shafted by the clinton administration.  while there are black dems who are extremely grateful to the clintons, i know more than a few who have long resented the interference  of the clintons in the florida democratic party, not because they dislike the clintons per se but because they choose the side of the dying (or departing) elements inside the party.  which is not to say that those clintonians who remained and came to lead the florida dems represent the centrist/conservative lines that the clintons choose in the 90s.  but by then, the southern progressive tradition of askew and chiles had been pretty much purged inside the party.  moderates grew more conservative because there was no "left wing" elements inside the party to counterbalance the centrists who remained.  i personally consider florida democrats profoundly conservative by national ideological standards because of this...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 02:48:54 PM EST
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Can I offer a suggestion? (2.00 / 2)

I don't want to tell you how to do your job or undermine what you were taught to do...but...

When you had that woman on the door that was interested in volunteering you could have reeled her further in.  Some suggestions --

1. Make her contribution needed and unique -- "We could sure use someone who lives in this area" or "The team could sure use someone with your energy" or "What hours would you be free to volunteer?  AWESOME!  That's exactly the shift we are having trouble filling!"
When people think anyone can fill a slot they will then assume someone else will.  IF they think only they can?  They are more likely to move.

2. Did you get her contact information and take it back to the office?  Did you ask her for the contact info of anyone else she knows who might want to volunteer?

3.  Were it me, I'd have set something up with her, right then and there.  Example: "when is the next free time you have?  Well, I could meet you up at the office and show you around."  then treat it like a real appointment with a specific time and an exchange of contact info.  Be sure to tell her to call you if she can't make it, because you'll be coming in just to meet HER.

4.  This ones a long shot but worth the ask -- could she have gone with you, right then and there, to knock a few more doors with you?  Give you both more time to talk and give her the chance to get her feet wet.

5. ask her what she thinks she'd like to do...make calls, hold a house party, go out on the doors, do filing or paperwork....make sure she sees the range of ways to contribute..and again, how important her contribution would be.

It's not always about agitating around the issues, although that's always important.  It's about getting folks to COMMIT and know that their commitment is taken seriously.

Beyond that --

THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!

Knocking doors is no picnic, especially THOSE doors!  (-:


Sexism is real.
by grassrootsorganizer on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:21:40 PM EST

err, in regards to number one (2.00 / 1)

DON"T LIE. (why do I say this? many canvassers lie. it's a bad policy. don't do it, please).

Target it more to what they seem to care about, and less to 'uniqueness' -- how cool is it that they want you because you're from someplace? Not very, but if you're saying 'someone just up the street had a question about that, and you seem really up to speed. I coulda used you earlier!'

Or, to pull in the "you're local" -- emphasize that they've got a good grasp of local issues. This helps if they've already brought them up.

Bring up the parts of people that are truly passionate about the campaign, and make them understand that THOSE are what make them unique.

Even if it's just a story about foreclosure...


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:31:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: err, in regards to number one (2.00 / 2)

I wouldn't call this "lying" I'd call it finding a truth.  Because the truth is, there is a unique contribution for every individual and it's an organizer's job to find it.  

I've got to say, in years of success at this, the secret is in commitment, not agitation, and commitment is strongest when one feels part of a fabric, critical to success.

It goes without saying that agitation is part of the conversation, of course around their issues and not universal ones.  And of course their passion on an issue can be that unique contribution.  But if passion or agitation was all it took there would never be a shortage of volunteers.

Witness all the passionately agitated folks who never do anything but sit on their hands and bitch.


Sexism is real.
by grassrootsorganizer on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 01:59:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Oh, I agree, and to clarify (2.00 / 1)

I wasn't particularly suggesting that what you were saying was a lie, or that you meant people to lie.

Just that you must be truthful with your people and with voters.


yo mir kennen
by RisingTide on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:08:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (2.00 / 1)

Fantastic diary. Thanks. Rec'ed


by french imp on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 02:30:48 PM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (none / 0)

I just mentioned to a workmate who is a 29 somthing Hispanic about Obama in Germany. His response was "who is that?" After getting off the floor I explained who Obama is to him.


It's time to restore balance and fairness to our economy,... It's time to stop giving tax cuts to corporations that ship jobs overseas... - Barack Obama
by Lefty Coaster on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 03:32:24 PM EST

Who's this Obama cat I keep hearing about? (none / 0)

At least he didn't say "Oh, you mean the guy from Al Qaeda?"


by ProgressiveDL on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:18:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I confess (none / 0)

I am surprised at the polling out of Florida: McCain isn't close to 50, and Obama is absolutely competitive there.  I hear that he is investing in the State.

So let me trade your story with another: from 2004.  Up until July of 2004 there were no yard signs in my tampa development, and it appeared that Kerry had at least some support.  And then, in the first two weeks of August, the Bush signs descended.  It was clear that the development was supporting Bush more than in 2000, and it was enthusiastic support.

I detect none of that enthusiasm this time.  

Everybody's home is worth 30% less than 2 years ago, and many of the people living in these developments have commutes that are costing them a fortune.  

Fundementally Florida is a different place in 2008 than in 2004 and 2000.  As a result the opportunity may be bigger than we might have expected.


by fladem on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:33:39 PM EST

I've been seeing (or not seeing) the same thing (none / 0)

in Sarasota.

Lots of Obama bumper stickers, haven't seen any McCain.  I keep trying to remind myself to specifically look for McCain stickers and signs (am I influencing myself by seeing what I want to?), but for whatever reason I haven't noticed any.

Had coffee the other day with a couple down the street (just getting to know folks around here).  He's a Korean War vet, very cranky about people protesting against the war while troops are in battle, grandkids in the military now.  Showed grudging respect for Sen. Obama but "not sure I want someone learning on the job" - seemed to ponder the fact that Lincoln was our least experienced President when I mentioned that.  But one way or another he didn't voice any enthusiasm for Bush or McCain.

Florida was very close in 2000 (as we all know), and I just can't see the same enthusiasm from the traditional GOP voters this year.

-chris

PS - I got a RNC email today pointing me to download the GOP Toolbar.  They are raising money by selling advertising on this thing no doubt, and tracking demographics along the way.  I'm tempted to install it just to see what they are up to, but hate to raise a penny for them and soil my laptop.


Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics
by chrisblask on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 05:44:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (none / 0)

I think the primary turnout numbers are a result of people not thinking it mattered since the DNC had stripped Florida's delegates.  The RNC halved their delegates from the start, I believe.


by midvalley on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 04:34:29 PM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (2.00 / 1)

Really proud of you and your efforts. Great diary.


by Jeter on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 08:05:07 PM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (none / 0)

So, what does this mean in the long term?  Will the McCain'ers stay home 'cos they hate him less than Obama?  Will they still vote, 'cos they're republicans and that's what they do?  Will they stay home 'cos the lection has already been decided for them?

What does it mean in the long run?  Any guesses?


"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"
by LordMike on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 09:20:06 PM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (2.00 / 2)

hmmmm...

I just return from some door knocking myself for Obama. Here in Colorado, even if you are a registered voter you have to request a mail-in ballot...So I have been having many folks filling out the paperwork for that...
I was a late-comer to the Obama Campaign(Edwards)and most of my time since then has been involved with a alliance of groups coming to Denver for the Convention.
Man... the Obama campaign is tight...light years what Kerry had...
Data from canvassing on Tuesdays and Thursdays canvasses are dropped off to folks in the district who then enter the data from our homes using a very user friendly system...

For the most part the people setting this up and coordinating this are young...
But they have their shit together...

On Saturday, Bill Richardson along with SEIU and us folks are doing a massive door to door in West Denver.

If any of you are not yet involved where you live?
Get involved..100 days until election.


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 09:52:47 PM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (none / 0)

Note: Our codes are the same...


"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 09:53:45 PM EST

i would hope so!!! (none / 0)


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:03:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (none / 0)

An aside regarding signs and Bumper stickers..
  1. Here( Colorado) they are on hold pending the VP choice.
  2. As one of the Obama folks said.
"A sign or sticker only gives your preference.
How many people had Kerry stuff and did nothing else? We aren't about signs. We are about getting more people directly involved in democracy on a grassroots level."
"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:06:46 PM EST

I'm in CO too. (none / 0)

I'll be out canvassing today for 3 hours (second time this week).  We've got an Obama volunteer here from CA helping with house parties and signing people up for house to house voter registration.  I live in a rural town in S CO and it's nice to see so many senior citizens step up to the plate and work on the grassroots efforts.


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 10:24:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Very nice diary... (2.00 / 3)

What a great diary.  I am impressed with your ability to knock on doors where you know that there is a strong likelihood that you will disagreed with...and maybe hassled.  I only knocked on democrat's doors and that seemed scary to me. Thanks for your diary and your volunteerism.


by Jenai on Thu Jul 24, 2008 at 10:42:26 PM EST

Re: Obama's Gonna Be President, Anyway... (none / 0)

Being from Volusia myself, I wouldn't call it democratic by any stretch of the imagination. At least not as long as "asshat" Feeney is still in Congress anyway.


by darwinsjoke on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 02:58:13 AM EST

heh... (none / 0)

feeney's the congressman for this area, as well.  but volusia, while it trended towards republicans like the rest of the i-4 corridor, has always been a laggard.  recent party registration for the county:

REP    106979
DEM    121521
Minor    10230
NoParty    65675
Total    304405

and here are the recent election results, you can decide for yourself if it's an apt generic description:

Katherine Harris REP    53817    35.30%
Bill Nelson DEM    96406    63.23%

Tom Feeney REP    32091    51.92%
Clint Curtis DEM    29716    48.08%

Charlie Crist REP    76618    50.07%
Jim Davis DEM    72216    47.19%

Tom Lee REP    64833    44.20%
Alex Sink DEM    81847    55.80%

2004:
George W. Bush (REP)    111263    48.85
John F. Kerry (DEM)    114986    50.49

Mel Martinez (REP)    103454    46.14
Betty Castor (DEM)    114415    51.02

2000:
George W. Bush (REP)    82392    45.03
Al Gore (DEM)    97190    53.11


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 08:27:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Sigh (none / 0)

that three point shift from 2000 to 2004 in the I-4 just killed Kerry....


by fladem on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 11:03:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]

You sell your candidate by tellingt that woman (none / 0)

that he's against mandated healthcare? You're willing to go against longstanding democratic values that everyone is entitled to universal health care just to get your candidate elected? This is the Obama's campaign? You've basically just confirmed to me that Obama's mantra that he'll  give healthcare to everyone is basically bullshite! Thank You!


by suzieg on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 06:18:31 AM EST

Re: You sell your candidate by tellingt that woman (none / 0)

The primaries are over, and the general election is on.  Defend John McCain on healthcare, if you can.


by MeganLocke on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 10:53:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]

hillary's position on the general election is... (none / 0)

clear.  vote for barack...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 02:54:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

so sorry your candidate lost... (none / 0)

as i recall, she failed miserably in her attempt to bring us universal health care.

i don't lie about obama's positions just because you disagree with them.  my request that she look at the website to see what barack actually proposed -- and won the democratic nomination upon -- is perfectly sound.  again, so sorry your candidate lost.  but that doesn't mean i should lie about what barack stands for.  after all, he won -- and i'm fairly certain that this women was smart enough to know what barack's positions actually are instead of what you'd hope they'd be...


peace. love. equality. still waiting after 40 years...
by bored now on Fri Jul 25, 2008 at 02:52:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

That's the Florida I miss n/t (none / 0)


by Bob Sackamento on Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 09:58:34 AM EST

I love first hand accounts. (none / 0)

My favorite kind of diary.  Good job!


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Sat Jul 26, 2008 at 10:30:22 AM EST


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