What's the gaffe that crushes the McCain campaign?

Seems like a lot of diaries on gaffes, whose throwing em, who's getting busted for em.

Being an old codger, I remember some whoppers, some that literally ended campaigns and were the kiss of doom for the candidates involved.

Remember "I've been brainwashed!"

Or, Mike Dukakis's answer in the debates to the question if someone murdered his wife?

Bush Senior's grocery store scanner moment, or knowing the price of milk.

Seems like clearly definably moments where, they fell in a hole and never climbed out.

So, we have seen McCain throw some doozies, I'm wondering what would be one that would throw such a monkey wrench in his candidacy that it would basically punch a hole in the boat they couldn't bail the water out of.

I'm thinking, for some reason, not foreign policy, but domestic, along the lines of the Social Security gaffe.

Or, is it the death of a thousand cuts?  He just keeps mixing up countries, screwing up names, dates and times, and his `expertise" and "experience" meme just turns against him.

Anyone got any ideas: What is the campaign-killing gaffe for John McCain's 2008 run?



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If he just keeps getting places and things mixed up it will become a Leno joke. That's it. It's already happening, I couldn't believe the phote op with Bush senior riding around in the golf cart. Who the f@#$% thought up that dumb idea.


by ottovbvs on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 06:49:46 PM EST

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Especially with that sign in the windshield: "Property of #41."  Priceless.


by Susan from 29 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:19:40 PM EST
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Re: What's the gaffe that crushes (2.00 / 2)

I liked the other part of the sign under the "Property of #41":

  HANDS OFF!!!

Sounds kind of like "Get off my lawn!!", doesn't it? ;)


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:55:40 PM EST
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I like he death by a thousand cuts analogy.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 06:57:22 PM EST

How about this Obama gaffe today (none / 0)

ABC's Jake Tapper asked Obama if he had learned anything on the trip that would change his mind, and the answer basically was "no."

But listen to this stunner:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/ 2008/07/so-what-did-he.html

"In terms of -- look, there are all kinds of things that I learned," Obama said. "I think one of the things that was most eye-opening was the extent to which the porous border between Afghanistan and Pakistan makes it very difficult for our troops, as good as they are, to decisively defeat the Taliban and the terrorist operations in Afghanistan.

My gawd, he didn't know the border was porous?

And how does he know the "x amount" of troops he'll send will solve that.


by strongerthandirt on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:00:35 PM EST

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Wow, STD shows up, and am I surprised, he throws in a Jake Tapper quote.

Oh, and your criticisms are as lame as your other supposed Obama gaffes.

Man, how are you going to take it when Obama wins?

Are you going to claim Hillary would have won bigger?

Claim "We are doomed, I'm moving to Canada" or something as silly?

It will be a said day for Puma's everywhere.


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:04:14 PM EST
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Obama used the word EXTENT. But hey you knew that and seem to just want to use that as some sort of gaffe. Careful love your slip is showing.


by venician on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:27:55 PM EST
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Re: How about this Obama gaffe today (none / 0)

Well, Obama's talking about how the terrorists run across the border where American troops can't get to them, not about that he didn't know the border was porous.
And as far as numbers needed in Afghanistan, he's going by what military commanders there are suggesting, at least 2-3 brigades. You'll notice that John McCain now agrees with him:

Today at a "Jobs for America" town hall, McCain forcefully called for additional troops in Afghanistan for the first time in this campaign.

"Our commanders on the ground in Afghanistan say that they need at least three additional brigades," McCain said. "Thanks to the success of the surge, these forces are becoming available, and our commanders in Afghanistan must get them."

SNIP

McCain said just one week ago that the way to solve the situation in Afghanistan was to look at "a broad variety of areas" -- none of which were an increased troop presence, but instead included some things that were absent from his speech today, including "the effectiveness of the Karzai government, ungovernable areas, ungoverned, uncontrolled areas of the Afghan-Pakistan border."

MSNBC 7/15/08


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 08:09:04 PM EST
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The media will never call McCain on his gaffes unless he says something like, "Britney who?"


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:00:47 PM EST

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I wouldn't be so sure. He hasn't gotten better, and people have started to really get frustrated. For a long time, they were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but how long can you do that without feeling you have an obligation to speak up (and a good angle)?

Politico story we saw is the tip of the iceberg. Obama wants a commercial to respond to McCain's energy commercial? "There's been a lot of talk about how drilling will help relieve the pressure America has been feeling at the pumps. Let me promise you, if I thought that this would actually help, I'd say so. The fact is, it won't. But don't take my word for it, ask John McCain: (cue footage of McCain speaking against drilling) You see? Even John McCain agrees that John McCain is wrong."


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 02:43:55 AM EST
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According to his campaign, McCain does not have gaffes, he "misspeaks."

I want Barack to win so I at least know my candidate understands this reality-based world and doesn't just see what he wants to see.


by Lolis on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:19:08 PM EST

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He's toast the day he refers to the Soviet Union in the present tense.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:21:44 PM EST

Too late (none / 0)

The McCain campaign never had a chance to begin with. The press is keeping it alive for the sake of having any news to report, so they won't report too much on any major gaffes. But it doesn't matter... this was over before it started.


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by Jeff Rosenberg on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:21:59 PM EST

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I think it will be a cumulative effect and we won't really see it until the landslide in November.  The press will do everything they can to head it off, since the ratings go up when the race stays close, but the erosion has already begun.

I loved the photo Chris Mathews used this afternoon of McC getting off his plane in New Hampshire to a press corps of exactly one reporter.


by Susan from 29 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:22:12 PM EST

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Contrast that with the videos of Obama in the Middle East, Obama with the soldiers.

Even the one of Obama swishing the 3 point basket with the soldiers in the gym in Kuwait.

America sees itself as young and vital, it's our obcession (and, wrongly sometimes I think)

I think, in the end, we vote on images (right or wrong), and Obama has such an edge there.

I don't like it, but I will take it.


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:26:50 PM EST
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But, a lot of the Presidency is visual.  It is a bully pulpit that allows the occupant to teach, inspire and lead a nation.

Admittedly, the current administration sees the powers as much greater than that, but it has no inherent legislative ability.  I think Obama's administration will reflect the youth (relative) of our nation with the gravitas that our immense power requires.


by Susan from 29 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:33:29 PM EST
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Yes, Images count. (2.00 / 1)

"I think Obama's administration will reflect the youth (relative) of our nation with the gravitas that our immense power requires."

Oh, I agree 110%.

I said to my girlfriend, just the body language of the leaders in Iraq to Obama in those pictures said, this is something different happening here.

The image of "Not another rich white guy" means, I think Obama has actually MORE leverage to make good deals, and these polticians can sell them to the man on the street.

Yeah, I'm an optomist, but after 7 plus years of the Dick Cheney darkness, a flashlight looks like a blazing sun!


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:40:44 PM EST

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I think Bush puking on the Japanese PM's lap was worse than the milk incident, since it made him look like a fool abroad.  That said, his son has lowered the bar so much that I don't know whether it's possible to gaffe oneself out of the presidency (Republicans, anyway) for at least another cycle.  It seems like much of America considers stupidity a virtue nowadays.


by rfahey22 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:41:19 PM EST

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Well, if this story (see link below) gets the attention that it deserves, then I think it could be really damaging--since it indicates that McCain doesn't have even an elementary understanding of the surge and its surrounding circumstances.

http://attackerman.firedoglake.com/2008/ 07/22/macfarlandknowsbetterthanmccain/

I saw that Keith covered it tonight, but so far no one else is picking up on it. I think it would help if we push the hell out of it.


by DPW on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 08:36:47 PM EST

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I liked Yglesias' take even more.

http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/a rchives/2008/07/mccains_surge_of_time_tr avel.php


by DPW on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 08:48:17 PM EST
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"There is civilian violence (none / 0)

in Iraq, and there never will be under a McCain adminstration." will be the type of thing that throws McCain under the bus.


by Lakrosse on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 12:52:50 AM EST

I meant to say (none / 0)

"there is NO civilian violence in Iraq, and there never will be under a McCain administration."


by Lakrosse on Wed Jul 23, 2008 at 12:53:27 AM EST
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