Andrew Card laughed off Morning Joe for "Time Horizon" (w/video)

Cross-Posted on DailyKos

I don't usually have the luxury of watching morning Joe on a workday, and I know many of you don't either, so I'd like to share how Andrew Card just got ridiculed for his mealy-mouthed defense of Bush's/McCain's "Time Horizon." His shilling was actually going quite well  until the words "Time Horizon" escaped Andy's mouth. The result was a loud guffaw courtesy of Joe Scarborough followed by the following, unusually non-anti-Obama conversation (paraphrased, but not loosely):

[Card attempts and fails to clarify] Mika: You sound a lot like Barack Obama

Card: The president will take direction from military leaders. Yes, there's a horizon when the troops come home, but it won't be a deadline bad guys can plan around.

[Editor's note: Huh?]

Joe: Are you suggesting Obama does have a time line?

Card: Sixteen months is pretty specific. The president has consistently said it depends on what happens on ground.

[Editor's note: Gee, he sounds a lot like Obama]

Joe: Obama is saying the same thing. It will be sixteen months depending on what the Generals on the ground tell him.

Card: That's not what he's always said, [Editor's note: Yes it is, liar], and there are not two presidents.

[Editor's note: Um, you're a fracking idiot. It's no wonder you stuck around so long]

Joe: He never said there were two presidents; quite the contrary. And Bush is moving towards Obama's position.

[Editor's note: Wow, Joe, so unlike you to harp on the truth]

Card: Yes, Bush would like conditions on ground to allow for an orderly withdrawal, and we'd love for blah blah blah blah yada yada blah

Joe, Mika: [amidst laughter] We love Andrew Card, but time horizon...time line? Uh-uh.

Mika: Who came up with that phrase? "Let's not call it a time line...we'll call it a time horizon.."

Ford: Score one for Barack Obama.

[Commercial. Upon return from commercial, the hosts continue to parody the notion of a "time horizon."]

Mika: I'm not giving up my timeline--it's more of a time horizon--but I'm going to do the news in 30 minutes.

Scarborough: Yes, we don't want to give up too much information.

Video courtesy of DJShay (dailykos)

Late-Breaking News from Bagdad: Obama has met with his newest supporter, Prime Minister Malaki, in Bagdad.

Also uttered on Morning Joe this morning: Confessions from Kalid Sheik Mohammad and others were FALSE and led our government down rabbit holes. To quote Dan Abrams: "Whoa! What a revalation!"



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Tips for time rainbows? n/t (2.00 / 13)


by Bob Sackamento on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 08:38:30 AM EST

Re: Andrew Card laughed off (2.00 / 3)

Any videos??


Obama/Biden 08
by W126 on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 08:47:36 AM EST

Video added; enjoy! n/t (none / 0)


by Bob Sackamento on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 09:12:56 AM EST
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Re: Andrew Card laughed off Morning Joe (2.00 / 8)

LOL, Joe Scarborough defending Barack Obama, will wonders never cease?
Thanks Bob, that made my morning (well that and reading engel's diary!).
by skohayes on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 08:49:58 AM EST

Bah, I missed it (2.00 / 8)

I got called in early; otherwise I would have seen this.  Curses!

As much as I dislike Joe Scarborough most of the time, sometimes he does come through for us.  I think he does a far better job than Chris Matthews of representing a "normal" American viewpoint: yes, somewhat conservative, but also not beholden to Bush administration dogma.  The fact is that he vexes both sides of the aisle by playing devil's advocate.

In this case, he just recognized bullshit because he, like everyone else except the war profiteers, wants our people home.  Seriously, the only reason for us to stay there at this point, after the Iraqis made their desire for us to leave known is to further plunder the American treasury and the Iraqi resources in a completely lawless environment where you can pretty much get away with anything.  Period, full stop.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 08:53:42 AM EST

Re: Bah, I missed it (none / 0)

once draco you nailed it  


PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability
by wellinformed on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 10:50:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Bah, I missed it (2.00 / 2)

And don't forget to provide a launching pad for another illegal war, this time in Iran.  If Bush had 2 more years, we would be ramping up for that war as we fracking speak.  [love the reference to Battlestar cursing...I'm stealing it and using it from now on]


by ProgressiveDL on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 11:04:24 AM EST
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What the frak? (2.00 / 1)

Which reference to battlestar cursing?  I mean, I love BSG, but I'm confused.  Then again, I only got 4 hours of sleep, so maybe that's normal.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 11:45:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What the frak? (none / 0)

"frack/frak (sp?" is Battlestar Galactica's version of "fuck."  Maybe they didn't invent it, but they made it (semi)famous.


by ProgressiveDL on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 04:26:12 PM EST
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Yes, I understand this (none / 0)

I'm just confused as to why it was brought up here in the first place.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 04:37:17 PM EST
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Re: Yes, I understand this (none / 0)

Because Bob Sackamento said "Um, you're a fracking idiot" in his diary.  Think of it as a coded shoutout to BSG fans.


by ProgressiveDL on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 07:54:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

oooooh (none / 0)

I wasn't operating on all cylanders yesterday.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 09:34:37 AM EST
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stuck in time (2.00 / 7)

McCain's stuck pointing to the past -- but he only wants to point back as far as the surge starting, not the foolish and tragic decision to go to war with Iraq to begin with.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 09:05:47 AM EST

Too bad we can't push some of these folks (2.00 / 6)

past an Event Horizon...


Donate!
by chrisblask on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 09:22:44 AM EST

The problem with a horizon is you can (2.00 / 4)

never reach it.


Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.
by Rumarhazzit on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 12:33:53 PM EST

Heh (2.00 / 1)

the luxury of watching morning Joe

Not the word I would use there. :)


by libertyleft on Mon Jul 21, 2008 at 12:42:34 PM EST


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