$52,000,000 - But Will it Silence the "Concerned" Folk?

by John in Chicago, Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:48:40 AM EST

Please recommend this Diary if you enjoyed it! ---------------->

In a month where all the know-nothing pundits were speculating on a speculative report that claimed Illinois Senator Barack Obama "only" raised $30M or so in the month of June, turns out they were once again completely, utterly and pathetically wrong.

Please try to contain your shock.

Looks like Obama has had quite a haul this month. A $52,000,000 haul, to be exact. Only $3M shy of his record-shattering donation total in February of this year.

Maybe now the concern trolls that pollute our airwaves and our blogs will stop acting like Obama has money problems.

(Don't hold your breath)

It looks like there's no more need for concern among those who think Obama still needs to do more than he already has to "reach out" to the dead-ender PUMA-types in order to win their favor (and their donations).

(Don't hold your breath)

Even more impressive is how this money was raised. From the email sent out by David Plouffe to Obama supporters:

But more impressive than the number is how you did it. Hundreds of thousands of ordinary people contributed to building our campaign for change. Many were first-time donors, giving only what they could afford -- and the average donation was just $68.

You continue to prove what ordinary Americans committed to change can accomplish, despite the Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs funding so much of our opponents' campaign.

"Ordinary Americans committed to change". That sums it up pretty well. While Obama certainly cannot be all things to all people (see: FISA, faith-based initiatives, handgun bans), he certainly is something that we haven't see in our country in quite a long time: An extremely competent, intelligent and compassionate politico.

One who has already changed the face of the Democratic Party by not only refusing lobbyist money in his campaign, but by also having the DNC do the same.

One who has strongly spoken out in favor of universal health care, equal pay, ending the war in Iraq, focusing on the REAL terrorist threat in Afghanistan, major government investment in alternative energy sources and many other important Progressive (and common sense) causes.

Thanks to all the "ordinary people" like you and me, Obama is going to have a big, fat war chest to take down the hate-filled right-wing noise machine this year.

For good.




Tags: barack, obama, money, funds, donations, dnc, election 2008, concern (all tags)

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Tips, Flames, Recs (2.00 / 8)

Yes, we can!!


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:51:32 AM EST

Re: Tips, Flames, Recs (none / 0)

KUDOS!!

I had to LMAO after reading this . . . OOPS :


Have Ya Noticed? BHO's Fundraising is Drying Up
by: Alegre
Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:00:45 AM EDT

http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDi ary.do?diaryId=276


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 06:18:29 PM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 2)

We're DOOOMED! HELP US..WE ARE SO SCREWE....

Oh, he set a record? Best month ever?

Never mind.

(BTW John, nice Sig line...)


"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player
by WashStateBlue on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:54:55 AM EST

Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 2)

Actually, he raised $55M in February, so its not a record for Obama. It is, however, a record for money raised during the GE, which I think this would qualify for...

I like your tag too. Creepy!!!! lol


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:59:10 AM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 2)

What's 3 million between friends.

Frankly, I think the number the takes your breath away is right after the convention.

That's when I probably max out, if there is any room left to spend.  

I want him coming out of Denver loaded for bear.


"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player
by WashStateBlue on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:06:02 AM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (none / 0)

Yeah I'd imagine after he accepts in Denver, his August numbers may very well top $100M.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:07:30 AM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 2)

Bloodbath a comin'


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 10:56:57 AM EST

Re: $52,000,000 (none / 0)

Anyone thinks Obama is enroute to Iraq today?

That's what I think. He has nothing planned today and tomorrow.


Obama/Biden 08
by W126 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:19:08 AM EST

Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 1)

That's quite a possibility. Would also explain why they waited til today to announce the $$$ for June.

These people know how to coordinate their announcements for Maximum Impact.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:31:10 AM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (none / 0)

Just want to remind you before you get so carried away with joy that this is roughly half of want he was expected to raise in June. Flame me all you want.

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/obama-c ould-raise-100-million-in-june-fundraise rs-say-2008-06-09.html


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:45:11 AM EST

Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 2)

That $100 million dollar was never floated by anybody close to the campaign.

The major media expectations were $30 million.


by elrod on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:47:52 AM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 2)

Oh noes, I person with no real connection to the campaign said they hoped it might reach $100M in June!!!!

So. Pathetic.

Like I said in the diary, the concern trolls will never, ever stop.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:57:04 AM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 1)

one article does not "expectations" make.


by notedgeways on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:56:11 PM EST
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I'll do you one better (none / 0)

I hereby predict that Obama will raise $521 trillion  dollars in August!  Expectations are now set - be sure to bookmark this comment!


by JJE on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:49:02 PM EST
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Re: I'll do you one better (none / 0)

He'll have to do better than that.

I mean, McCain's expected to raise something like 1.4 quadrillion dollars.

It's on the Internet, it must be true.


by TCQuad on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:43:53 PM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (none / 0)

yes, it's less then some fund-raisers had said they could achieve but I'm not sure anyone should be down on raising $52 million. It's pretty darn good show.

it's not like June is a hot time to donate. It's not like he didn't outraise McCain by $30m. If he's still pulling in $52 after the convention, I'd be a bit more pessimistic.


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by alex100 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:27:11 PM EST
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$92 million cash on hand (2.00 / 3)

Obama already had $20 million for the GE. The DNC raised $20 million. With Obama's $52 million that gives us $92 million cash on hand. The GOP has $95 million cash on hand thanks to the RNC's fundraising. We thought we'd be screwed against the RNC but we are right there neck and neck.

Note also that if Obama pulls in this amount in July, August and September, he will have $200 million after the convention compared to McCain's $85 million.

Rejecting the public funds was a good decision.


by elrod on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 11:47:10 AM EST

i think a lot of that might be (none / 0)

primary funds, which he would have to spend before he gets the nomination.


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:03:30 PM EST
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Re: i think a lot of that might be (2.00 / 3)

Actually, since he opted out of public funds, he can roll his Primary war chest over to the General Election war chest after the Convention.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:12:15 PM EST
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Re: i think a lot of that might be (none / 0)

Kinda - he can only roll over 2300 per person - if they gave more, then he has to spend it before the Convention.


by Falsehood on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:10:18 PM EST
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Re: i think a lot of that might be (none / 0)

Does that actually make sense?  Say I donated $4600 - the max allowable.  They would allocate $2300 of that to the primary, $2300 to the GE.  However, they could ultimately roll over the $2300 allocated to the primary to the GE.  Thus, they would have full use of the $4600 after the convention, if in fact they reserved the whole amount until then.


by rfahey22 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:15:26 PM EST
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Re: $92 million cash on hand (none / 0)

i would imagine that mcCain's donors will overflow the RNC and 527's coffers with $$.

There will be some financial parity, one way or another.


!
by alex100 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:32:52 PM EST
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I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)


The economy is in the gutter, people are hurting very bad. To see all this money rush toward political campaining, paying staffers, printing etc... that makes me sick.

Those amount of money are obscene, and I don't care that the other side is doing it, that doen't make it right and that doesn't make me pround at all.


by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:28:25 PM EST

Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 3)

I agree with the premise of your comment, but what  would you suggest Obama do? Run on the hope that people will just stumble across his name on the internet and vote for him?

SHould Senator Obama just hope that his nationwide campaign staff will work for free?

Sen. Obama's June fund-raising numbers revealed an average donation of $68. So it's not like people are sending in their life savings. $68 is a small price to pay for a better future for you and your family, and until the Government decides to fully fund Presidential campaigns and completely outlaw special-interest spending, that's the way the game has to be played.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 01:47:23 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)

What Obama should do? I don't know

What the Diarist should do is abstain from posting picture of Obama smiling behind a huge chunk of cash. That sinks.


by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:27:41 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)

Why? I mean, I understand the amount of money the political process in America absorbs is astounding, but how is that the fault of the diarist? Is the picture really rubbing it in that much compared to a million other examples of excess in this country? (Especially considering the final result that all this cash is going towards?)


by upstate girl on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:31:19 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)


If you see nothing wrong with this picture, then trying to explain it would be a waste of time.

We must see this country from vastely different perspective


by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:34:05 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)

I certainly don't see anything wrong enough with the picture that it makes me "want to puke". I'm more than a little curious about what exactly is eliciting this kind of visceral reaction from you. Which is why I asked. Sorry if you expected to drop that comment in and not get questioned on it honestly.


by upstate girl on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:36:59 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 2)

Before I can self-actualize I have to have my physiclogical needs taken care of, I am not there yet, I don't own my shelter and I don't have a farm for my food.  Have patience with us, we're all aspiring to your level.


Democrat for the democratic nominee
by KLRinLA on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:53:40 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 2)

Well, someone has a highly sensitive outrage meter. The purpose of the image is to drive home the fact that Obama is awash in campaign cash and is ready to take on the Corporate Crony Republicans.

And if you take the time to think about it, the money Obama raises goes right back into the economy by creating jobs (paid staffers) and by supporting Unions (all signs, shirts, stickers, etc. made exclusively by Unionized print shops and factories).

So what, really, is the problem?


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:35:40 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)


plllease, you sound like a supply side guy.
by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:36:40 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

So are you gonna actually offer some kind of refutation of my points, or just write me off as a "supply side" person?


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:38:16 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)


My judgement that is moral is that the picture is totally inappropriate.

It glorify money in a context (politic) where money SHOULD not matter, and yes I am offended.

I have nothing more to say.


by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:40:30 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

Where money "should not matter" is not the worold we live in right now. So like I said, what should Obama do? Just hope that his staffers are as enlightened as you fancy yourself to be and would work for free? Hope that the Union workers who print his signs and make his t-shirts will work for free in hope of a better future?

Give. Me. A. Break.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:42:56 PM EST
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Oh the pure purity (none / 0)

of the very purest among us.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:39:54 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

"I have nothing more to say."

I hope that you keep you promise...but I doubt it.  

TackyMaster,

I must say that you are the least enlightened, "Enlightened" person that I have ever encountered.  There must be a rather large spectrum of "Enlightenedness?"


Obama/Adam West or Bruce Campbell or Lucy Lawless '08
by Purple with Green Stipes and Pink Polka Dots Dem on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 06:04:09 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)


If you want to help the poor just use the money to help the poor,
by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:37:34 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 2)

There's more than one way to help the poor - like a government that takes their problems and needs seriously. I'm not sure why you think its an either-or scenario.


by upstate girl on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:39:53 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 2)

So you are making the blanket assumption that people who donate to Obama's campaign do so instead of donating to worthy charitable causes?

That's quite presumptuous, and also incorrect, at least in the case of "The Diarist"....


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:41:10 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (copy paste is usefull (none / 0)


My judgement that is moral is that the picture is totally inappropriate.

It glorify money in a context (politic) where money SHOULD not matter, and yes I am offended.

I have nothing more to say.


by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:42:02 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (copy paste is usefull (none / 0)

Since you copied and pasted your response from above, I'll do the same:

Where money "should not matter" is not the world we live in right now. So like I said, what should Obama do? Just hope that his staffers are as enlightened as you fancy yourself to be and would work for free? Hope that the Union workers who print his signs and make his t-shirts will work for free in hope of a better future?

Give. Me. A. Break.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:43:46 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (copy paste is usefull (none / 0)


And you can have the last word too if you want... oups...
by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:44:39 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (copy paste is usefull (none / 0)

Mmm hmmm. Thanks for your "concern".


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:48:57 PM EST
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since when (none / 0)

...has money never mattered in politics? Since we've had politics, money has mattered. In fact, money matters a lot in just about any scenario where it probably shouldn't. Not sure why your knickers are in a twist over this one picture in this one diary, seems like you'd have a hard time dealing with all the judgment you'd have to lay down on just about any situation you come across in your daily life.


by upstate girl on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:44:18 PM EST
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that doesn't change policy though (2.00 / 2)

and policy is what affects "the poor" as a group of people the most.


by notedgeways on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:51:53 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 3)

As someone who makes a living (and not nearly as good a one as most people think,) by doing campaign work I don't understand how you can find it to be in anyway negative that the campaign is raising this kind of money. There are tons of people like me who are working for just enough to scrape by and we are getting paid and remaining contributing members of society because of donations like this.

They aren't robbing banks. They aren't accepting huge checks from lobbyists. They aren't raising gobs of cash behind closed doors. They are raising it from the average person who, despite the shitty economy, are find it in them to donate a small amount of money (average $68.00) to a campaign and a candidate they believe in.

This is a beautiful thing and anyone who thinks otherwise truly isn't paying attention.


ENOUGH!
by JDF on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:58:59 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)


I have notice against people working for the tobaco company either.

But the fact that immoral systems have regular people working for them is not a reason to not want them gone.


by TaiChiMaster on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:11:07 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)

Wanting the system changed is one thing. And as I said, I agree with your premise.

However, your outrage over the amount of money raised by Obama, which you base largely on the sagging economy and plight of poor people, is misguided.

The money being raised by Obama is being spent in a way that actually helps the economy, as it goes to union shops and progressive campaign workers.

It has nothing to do with "supply side" economics, either, as this money is going directly into the pockets of the union shops and the campaign workers.

Be upset with the system as it is all you want, but I think it's silly to be upset because the one candidate who would improve things for the lower and middle class is successfully utilizing that system to get elected.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:20:40 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

Explain how this is an immoral system please.

I honestly don't understand the premise of your argument. I think it is beautiful that ordinary people are getting involved in this way.


ENOUGH!
by JDF on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:25:25 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

I agree. That's not presenting an image of "change" or a "new type of politics" at all. It completely undermines Obama's message.


by LakersFan on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:04:34 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

Ohhh right. Obama should run a campaign based on no donations being accepted.

That's a sure fire way to win.

An acutally, $52,000,000 is a helluva lot of "change"

LMAO


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:19:07 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

Hey, according to them, Obama should take a vow of poverty and also should not have any people around him whatsoever when he makes his acceptance speech in Denver.


by rfahey22 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:23:16 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

I didn't say he shouldn't raise money. I said the image of him in front of a pile of money is contrary to the message Obama is trying to convey. If you really support a candidate, it's best not to undermine their message.


by LakersFan on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:35:49 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (2.00 / 1)

That's a fair point, actually.  The image isn't particularly on-message.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:38:24 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

We agree on something? Hold the presses! This is news.


by LakersFan on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:51:58 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

I'm surprised to hear you think that. What "message" is the picture I used "off"?

What part of Obama's message says "money=evil"?

I know that part of Obama's message is that it is important to take special interest money out of politics, but unless you ran the serial numbers on the money in the background of the picture I made, I don't see how anyone can assume the $$$ behind him is from special interests.

He raised $52M largely from small donors like you and I. That's what $52M looks like. A lot of money.

So again I ask, how is that "off message"?

When I put it up there the only intent was to deliver a big f.u. to the concern trolls.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:11:59 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

Sorry, I meant to say the "picture I used" as I didn't create that picture.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:12:33 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

So is this image also "off message"?


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:16:56 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

Dude.  I didn't make a big deal about it.  Just saying our guy looks a tad like Scrooge McDuck about to swim in his pool of money.

Easy, mang!


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 06:58:36 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

Scrooge McDuck, now that is funny.

I didn't think you made a big deal....


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 12:28:39 AM EST
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except (2.00 / 1)

its probably good for some parts of the economy.

Hiring staffers = creating jobs. Short term yes, but they are jobs nonetheless at a time where jobs are scarce in many areas.

Printing signs etc - someone's gotta do it right?

With the exception of TV ads, a lot of the money is pumped back in and taxed.


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:06:27 PM EST
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Re: except (2.00 / 4)

Printing signs etc - someone's gotta do it right?

Not just someone - in Obama's case (as with all the Democrats), the someones who print the signs and other campaign materials are union.  So supporting Democrats financially is not only supporting organized labor on a policy level - it's putting money in the pockets of hard-working union members, thus strengthening organized labor further.


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by mistersite on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:59:11 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

I don't have a huge problem. Contributions are voluntary, and the money all gets recirculated here - TV stations get ad money, various printon companies get printing money, and staffers get money as well.

The money's not going into a hole.


by Falsehood on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:12:04 PM EST
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Re: I think I am gonna puke (none / 0)

Well, how much do you think it should cost to run a nationwide, 11-month campaign?  People make all sorts of arguments that the number is "obscene," etc., but exactly how much do you think such an operation should cost?  This is yet another argument without an anchor in reality.


by rfahey22 on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:17:40 PM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 6)

I love the utter lack of the gloom and doom PUMA crowd in here. The silence is telling. I guess it takes a while to try and spin a $52M month.


by upstate girl on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:09:05 PM EST

Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 1)

Nice, aint it?

:)


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:46:18 PM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (none / 0)

This is good news for McCain!  


Democrat for the democratic nominee
by KLRinLA on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:57:22 PM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (2.00 / 1)

And the two that have posted negative comments on here would have flopped completely if the numbers had been low. Then they would be telling us how bad things are for Obama moneywise. They really are funny - as in amusing.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:18:43 PM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (none / 0)

BTW, that silence will only last as long as it takes them to clean the egg off their faces. They were so 'concerned' about Obama's fund-raising before the numbers were released. Just as they jump on every poll that has the slightest down-tick in support.

If Obama's poll numbers surged and his fund-raising went through the roof they would still find something negative to say.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:23:55 PM EST
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Re: $52,000,000 (none / 0)

Whis is exactly why I do not buy the PUMA story of being "lifelong Democrats" for one second. They full of shit. They are not Democrats. Maybe Dixiecrats, but whatever....


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:35:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

What I find highly noteable (2.00 / 1)

is this number comes in a slow month. He is not in the midst of a full on fight yet. Feb was the record month and that was in the heat of the battle. So imagine Sept and Oct.... Breaks 100 million.


by notedgeways on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 02:58:35 PM EST

Here's how it goes: (2.00 / 3)

Report of low numbers:  He's alienated his base and Clinton supporters by being a triangulating sellout.

Report of high numbers:  He only raised that money by pandering to telecom intere$t$ and being a triangulating sellout.


by Geekesque on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 03:30:05 PM EST

Re: Here's how it goes: (none / 0)

Yup -- I expected more trolls in here complaining about how I doesn't count because all this money was from moneyed special interests, regardless of whether that's possible according to election law.


by semiquaver on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:54:52 PM EST
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Obscene - the kind (none / 0)

of money raised BY ANY OF THEM - while so many of us are suffering out here.

Where the heck are our priorities? I'm turned off by the whole election.

Neither of the candidates will change or improve our healthcare system or get us out of Iraq -

Neither of them!


by Xanthe on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 04:55:14 PM EST

Re: Obscene - the kind (none / 0)

Well, the folks "suffering out here" are the ones that are deciding to contribute, by and large. And they are doing so in hopes of a better future for their families.

I know McCain won't get us out of Iraq or improve healthcare, but Obama has pledged to get us out of Iraq and to improve healthcare.

If you don't want to believe him, that's your prerogative, but, unlike with McCain, there is no factual basis for such an assertion.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 05:19:00 PM EST
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And what is the "factual" (none / 0)

basis that he will.  As to the "little donors" -- let me see the accounting. You may want to believe and that is your prerogative.  But it a belief on your part and his admirers' parts - not a fact as you choose to label it.  


by Xanthe on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 08:11:58 AM EST
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and I am from Chicago as well - (none / 0)

and I know a Chicago pol when I see one.  He may be a good, even a great president - we shall see what we see. I want my instincts to be at fault here.  But I do not believe as you do.  


by Xanthe on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 08:15:23 AM EST
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Re: and I am from Chicago as well - (none / 0)

You misread what I wrote. I said that there is factual basis for which to believe that McCain will not end the war in Iraq, will not improve health care, will not do a whole lot of good, period.

And I implied that there is no factual basis on which to base any belief that Obama would not end the war, etc...

Never did I say that its a fact that Obama will do anything, cuz that's merely speculation, ya see..

And Obama is far from being a "typical" Chicago politico.


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 10:07:11 AM EST
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He is a good friend (none / 0)

to developers. Their motto:  Developers rule! That's pure Chicago politics.  I lived thru it - I get it.  If you had sat in on the number of zoning meetings I have - you'd be jaded as well.

But you believe - so what's the use of communicating.  As I said - I would love to be wrong about this man.


by Xanthe on Sat Jul 19, 2008 at 05:15:27 AM EST
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Its mostly corporate cash (2.00 / 1)

and comes with a hefty price tag - public policy that favors corporate interests over citizens.

Obama's decision to forgo federal matching funds essentially puts his presidency up for sale to the highest bidders.

No matter how principled he is, he will be influenced by corporate and wealth donor cash and it will have damaging consequences for:

the economy

foreign policy

good tax & monetary policy along with balancing the budget

forward thiking energy policy

health care reform

education

protecting US jobs

the list goes

The first day Obama takes office he'll be thinking about raising enough money to run for re-election in 4 years. There's still a lot to be concerned about.


by Betsy McCall on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 07:11:31 PM EST

Re: Its mostly corporate cash (2.00 / 1)

Pay no attention to the fact that the average donation was $68.  


by Raumfahrer on Thu Jul 17, 2008 at 07:41:04 PM EST
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Re: Its mostly corporate cash (none / 0)

There's still a lot to be concerned about.

We have a winner!


Two riders were approaching......the wind begins to howl!
by John in Chicago on Fri Jul 18, 2008 at 12:29:53 AM EST
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