McCain thinks rape is FUNNY.

From tedski at Daily Kos, also known as the dude behind Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion.

We knew that John McCain made a piggish joke about Chelsea Clinton having Janet Reno for a father.

We knew that he called his wife a 'trollop' and a 'c@nt.'

We knew he just giggled when someone asked him 'how are we going to beat the bitch?'

We had no idea what a pig John McCain really is.

From his first Senate campaign, here's a joke St. John of Hanoi liked to tell his buddies:

Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, `Where is that marvelous ape?'

Hilarious!  I mean, who doesn't like to tell a good yarn about women being degraded, bestialized, brutalized, and raped?

I mean, after all, they enjoy that kind of stuff.

But, I'm sure he'd be the most pro-woman President in our history.



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C'mon, give it a rest (2.00 / 2)

I don't want to read about this.  I don't care how sexist McCain is in his private life; it's his policies and public life that matter.  

Let it go.  We all know that McCain has a foul sailor's mouth.  None of us are voting for him anyway (at least none of us who would care one way or another on this).

My outrage meter is well beyond breaking by this time.


You can't stop the signal.

President "That One"

by Dracomicron on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 06:38:42 PM EST

Because his record on women's issues (2.00 / 3)

is so inconsistent with this kind of hostility towards women.


by Geekesque on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 06:50:32 PM EST
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So he has a good record on women's issues? (none / 0)

Frankly how he addresses women in public and talks about them from the bully pulpit "no abortions if they're feeling blue" matters more than some tasteless jokes he told to a private group.


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:20:38 PM EST
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McCain has a HORRIBLE record (2.00 / 2)

on women's issues.

Your advocacy on his behalf is not going unnoticed, No KKKwarterite.


by Geekesque on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:24:14 PM EST
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Slander is your friend I guess (none / 0)

Whatever it takes to win! Become Repubs to beat them!


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:41:45 PM EST
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Re: Slander is your friend I guess (none / 0)

Catfish, please read this.

I took the time to read your page at Alegre's Corner, as linked above.

Do you actually think there's a chance in hell that Hillary Clinton will magically be the Democratic nominee this year?  Short of Barack Obama's death it will not happen.

You guys didn't convince eight supers to switch, and even if by some freak of nature you did that's not going to make the slightest bit of difference.

You have taken the time to post at a website where members have joked about us here at MyDD hurting or killing them.  You've taken the time to post at a website where the members have seriously suggested they'd have to leave the country if Obama is elected, because you and your friends would not be safe.

You've taken the time to post at a site where the members have posted scenarios in which Obama supporters lynch PUMAs and Obama does nothing.

Your friends are delusional.  I mean that literally.  I'm not talking politics, either.  I'm being stone cold serious.  This is the Internet.  This isn't some kind of real life situation where you're on the run, rebelling against Skynet or anything.

You've absolutely become guilty of the worst accusations any of you Clinton folks tossed at Obama supporters.  You've completely bought in, drunk the kool aid, and have lost all sense of perspective.

That website is completely insane.  You aren't heroes.  You aren't special.  You aren't going to win.  You are simply an irrelevant tiny gathering that's clinging to a battle that's already over.

You let your support for Senator Clinton define you such that the underlying tribalism continues to this day.  This is not healthy.

Imagine the roles reversed.  If Clinton had won, but you had a cousin who was spending a fair bit of time trying to undermine her because Obama had lost and your cousin couldn't accept it?

Your friends have completely lost it.  Why can't you see that?  Are you as far gone?  This is not mentally healthy.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 08:36:55 PM EST
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You did not read my page (none / 0)

because I said it will never happen. I said we can't afford to float such a rumor because we want the symbolic floor vote for the history books. If they think we're trying to overturn the nomination, they will never give Hillary a floor vote.


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 09:16:33 PM EST
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Pay them no attention then (none / 0)

If Clinton were the nominee and I had a crazy cousin per your scenario, I would pat said cousin on the head and say there there all will be OK.


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 09:17:48 PM EST
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Re: Pay them no attention then (none / 0)

And if the cousin kept talking about how Hillary had some sort of secret plan that would ruin us? That she was secretly planning on instituting communism and taking down the male patriarchy by force? Would you care what he had to say? How long would it take before you lost respect for him?


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 11:50:55 PM EST
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Eh (none / 0)

His record on women's issues is horrid. I don't see it as inconsistant at all, nor do I find it relevant.

Obama did coke a little when he was a kid; should we ramble about that in regards to his policy on the War on Drugs?

Seriously.  I'm prObama.  I think McCain is a bastard.  Trust me when I tell you that it doesn't speak well of us that we're talking about this.


You can't stop the signal.

President "That One"

by Dracomicron on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:38:30 PM EST
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Do you have... (none / 0)

a link to someone who actually heard McCain tell this "joke".


by Ed J on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 06:54:35 PM EST

Re: Do you have... (none / 0)

http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/imag es/Tucson_Citizen_gorilla_rape_joke.pdf


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 06:58:39 PM EST
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Not good enough. (none / 0)

The reporter, Norma Coile, references two guys named Wright and Larson who were said to have heard McCain tell the joke. They, however, were never reached for comment.

I don't doubt the sexism of John McCain. But the odor of mendacity about this charge is pretty strong.


by Ed J on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 08:12:10 PM EST
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Re: Do you have... (none / 0)

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2008/07 /tucson_citizen_gorilla_rape_joke.pdf


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 06:59:20 PM EST
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I was dubious (2.00 / 4)

since this is just absurd, even for McCain.  But the kos article has a link to the newspaper article this appeared in.  

True to form, McCain "does not recall" telling the joke, despite the fact that it was told in public, apparantly in front of an audience.


by semiquaver on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 06:57:31 PM EST

Re: I was dubious (2.00 / 6)

Another gem from the article:

McCain sparked a controversy early in his Senate campaign with another "joke," when he referred to the retirement community of Leisure World as "Seizure World."
Keep in mind that that incident was in early 1986, when McCain was only 49.  That his campaign blasts anyone for even imagined references to his age is the real joke here.


by semiquaver on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:03:32 PM EST
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Re: I was dubious (none / 0)

Please READ the article. Nobody says they actually heard McCain tell the "joke".


by Ed J on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 08:15:12 PM EST
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Re: I was dubious (none / 0)

Maybe I'm mistaken, but it looks like that's exactly what the article says.  If no one heard him say it, why would anyone say he did?


by semiquaver on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 09:01:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Why do Republicans say... (none / 0)

that Obama's a Muslim?


by Ed J on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 09:06:23 PM EST
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Re: Why do Republicans say... (none / 0)

Did you look at the pdf? A reputable newspaper says he said this in front of a convention.  Show me a mainstream article that says Obama's a muslim.


by semiquaver on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 09:43:44 PM EST
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Did the reporter hear him say it? n/t (none / 0)


by Ed J on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 04:53:50 AM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (2.00 / 4)

I'm sure more PUMAs and no25centers, like catfish, will try to spin this so that it isn't really as bad as the Bernie Mac jokes. It's funny how outraged they were at Obama over those jokes, which were told by someone else, and yet when McCain says something even worse they excuse it away.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:01:38 PM EST

Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (2.00 / 5)

Maybe someone should repost the joke and report that it says "ho" instead of "woman".


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:06:35 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (2.00 / 4)

And then have the joke actually being made by a McCain supporter instead of McCain himself.  That should be enough to trigger the outrage, right?


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:08:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Only McCain speaks for McCain. (2.00 / 1)

And he speaks quite clearly here.


by Geekesque on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:18:57 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (2.00 / 1)

So I shouldn't post George Carlin's "Rape CAN Be Funny." routine here... or should I?


by Whash on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:12:31 PM EST

No. (2.00 / 1)

And, to say that McCain is no Carlin and that Carlin was no McCain is an understatement.


by Geekesque on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:19:30 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Well, if McCain was talking about Porky raping Elmer, at least he'd get a couple of cool points.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 11:52:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Taylor Marsh... (none / 0)

If any of you have posting capabilities at taylormarsh.com

could someone please ask why any Hillary supporter would ever NOT support Obama given McCains long history of misogynistic jokes and votes?

If one didn't no better one would suspect Hillary's campaign is pushing people to publicly threaten support for McSame if Hillary's not VP


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:33:05 PM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh... (2.00 / 2)

"If one didn't no better one would suspect Hillary's campaign is pushing people to publicly threaten support for McSame if Hillary's not VP"

I disagree, for two reasons.

First, Senator Clinton is better then that, she doesn't need to threaten, her qualifications for VP stand or fall without threats.

Secondly, PUMAS are so out of control and pumped up on their own bloated self-importance, it's not like they would do what anyone from Senator Clinton's staff asked them to do anyway.

The are a rolling ball of irrationality and cognitive dissonance. No one can talk sense to them at this point.


Support the separation of Church and State: Vote YES on WA R-71!
by WashStateBlue on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:37:18 PM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh... (2.00 / 2)

No, that's not true.  She's a Democrat first and foremost, enough with the conspiracy theories.


by rfahey22 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:41:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Hillary has come through like (2.00 / 3)

a champion for Obama.


by Geekesque on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:44:09 PM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh... (2.00 / 1)

Hillary has no control over these crazies.  She comes out in support of Obama, and they see her putting out secret code and that "she's only doing what she feels that she has to."  She goes on the stump for Obama and they can only think about roll call votes at the convention.

It's a cult of personality gone horribly awry, in which the cult no longer cares about what Hillary has to say and instead they act upon what they think Hillary secretly wants them to do.  Creepy.

The main reason I even bother responding to the dead-end types like catfish is to point out the rank hypocrisy in supporting McCain and ignoring his sexist statements while parsing every single word and breath uttered by Obama and anyone within 10 miles of him.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:55:17 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Are we actually going to start using jokes as a litmus test?  


by JustJennifer on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:34:16 PM EST

Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Im not sure if you are being sarcastic or serious, but the serious answer is YES.

Humor is a big deal in politics.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:48:50 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

If Bernie Mac's jokes are fair game I think the words from the Republican nominee's mouth more than qualify.


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:52:53 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

McCain told a sexist joke 20 years go, Obama publicly laughed at sexist jokes last week. Are people really going to try and split hairs to try and make the other pig worse than their pig? Really is that what this is coming down to, My candidate is not as much of a sexist as that other guy so vote for him.


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 07:55:05 PM EST

Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Do you have video showing Obama laughing at Bernie Mac's jokes?

McCain has a documented history of making misogynistic jokes like these. Obama can only be smeared by what someone else has said. Can you really not see the difference?


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 08:00:46 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Yeah, he had a special private viewing of it from Larry and Susan, it was a double feature with the Whitey Tape.


Support the separation of Church and State: Vote YES on WA R-71!
by WashStateBlue on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 08:03:40 PM EST
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u mean like Mccain laughing (none / 0)

at the woman calling Hillary a bitch a few months ago?


Call it "Medicare Option" not public option
by TarHeel on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 08:04:51 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Reread my post and try to grasp the meaning of the entire post. I don't have a video of Obama  Laughing does the author have a video of McCain telling the joke? Is this really the path you want to travel down, vote for my guy because he is not quite as disgusting as the other guy. Is this really the type of fingerpointing you want to get into. This is what turns people off and makes them decide not to participate. Since voter turnout is supposed to be key to an Obama victory do you really want to turn them off so they will stay home. Is driving people away from Obama really your goal. Like I said I live in a state that McCain will win by 15 points my vote does not matter. I can vote for Mickey Mouse, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama and it will not affect the outcome of the election. I have never said I want him to lose, I just want to hold him accountable. But some of you seem bound and determined to piss off as many people as you can.


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 10:20:09 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Obama publicly laughed at sexist jokes last week.
Gee, don't ya hate the internet? Your words stay there for everyone to see.

You make a completely unsubstantiated claim and I post a link from a newspaper article. Which of us has the most support for their claim?

Is this really the path you want to travel down, vote for my guy because he is not quite as disgusting as the other guy.
There is no comparison. You are knocking Obama for things said by others. I am holding McCain guilty of words that came out of his own mouth. It isn't that Obama isn't as bad as McCain, it's that McCain has a history of this kind of thing and Obama has none. That's none, as in zero. All you can point to are things said by other people.

I have never said I want him to lose,
Maybe not, but you sure do your best to tear him down. How is that helpful? You hold Obama to impossibly high standards and blame him for things said by other people while at the same time trying to minimize the words that come out of McCain's mouth.

Given your posting history and your antipathy towards Obama, you will have to forgive me if I don't consider you to be a progressive Dem.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 10:36:20 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Come on you are being so transparent. Just days ago this site had several articles posted about the Bernie Mac event. "Just Messin with ya man" you know it I know it and 90+% of the people on this site know it. You can play that "you got a video crap all you want but this ain't my first rodeo" and I am not buying it. I never said McCains joke which there is no video of is okay. Maybe you have heard of the glass houses thing? Are you sure that you want to go down that road knowing that there is a stone that can be thrown at Obama that is much more recent than 20 years ago. Try really hard to understand what I am saying here, think outside of your echo chamber. Do you really think that this is a can of worms that you want to open, since it could backlash and end up with egg on Obama's face. How many darned cliches do I have to use to get you to pay attention to my meaning and not just react out of your emotion.


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 11:03:11 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

You are the transparent one here. You should be careful talking about glass houses. You keep trying to make the case that something a comedian said makes Obama guilty of some offense. You go so far as to claim he laughed at the joke when you have absolutely nothing to back up that claim. You pulled that from who knows where. At the same time, you try to minimize what McCain said. Words from the actual candidate's own mouth. Trying to equate the two is ludicrous.

You are right, I am beginning to react out of emotion. The emotion caused by listening to you spout the same stupid talking points over and over again no matter how many times they are debunked.

Your effort to equate a man like Obama, who has never said or done anything remotely comparable to McCain's offenses is enough to piss off a monk.

McCain makes a joke about Janet Reno being Chelsea's father and you shrug it off. McCain makes a joke about having stopped beating his wife as a response to a question about why he seems to be avoiding associating with an official in his own party who actually did get charged with assault against a woman. McCain tells the gorilla joke and you think it is no worse than Obama not chastising a comedian for a bad, sexist joke. McCain laughs on camera when someone refers to Hillary as a bitch and what do we get from you? Pure silence. McCain calls his wife a 'trollop' and 'c*nt' in public and you say nothing. Obama scratches his face during a speech and you manage to nurse your outrage for months.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 11:23:09 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

I give up maybe you can get the Media to run with the McCain joke story. Maybe you can create some big story around it. And when you do I am sure the topic of the Bernie Mac event is something the Media will ignore because hey they have all this integrity and creating the most sensational story they could come up with is never something they would ever do.


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 11:28:34 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

McCain's joke and all of his other jokes over the years paint a picture of him. Combine that with his record on voting on women's issues and you have a legitimate attack theme.

On the other hand, Obama's voting record can stand up to scrutiny, while all you can find to smear him with is things said by other people. I'll take that comparison any day.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 11:39:34 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

Not going to keep going around with you about this. Why don't you contact the Obama campaign and see if this is something they want to pursue.


"Do you know the difference between a War Story and a Fairy Tale?"
by RedstateLib on Tue Jul 15, 2008 at 11:55:09 PM EST
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Re: McCain thinks rape is FUNNY. (none / 0)

What I am about to say I say only to illustrate the point for you. I am removing these remarks from the confines of a joke so you can see them more clearly (even though Bernie's was a better joke by far).

"Oh, look at Bob's girlfriend flirting with that other guy. She is such a ho!"

"Bob's girlfriend is such a slut, just look at that dress. You just know that she is BEGGING for somebody to take her back in the alley and just rape the shit out of her."

Tell me there's no difference there, you pretend feminist jerk.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Wed Jul 16, 2008 at 12:03:15 AM EST
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