Look, I appreciate the sentiment, but frankly, I'm tired of giving these people a soapbox. Any time someone posts a diary like this, the PUMAs and nutjobs emerge from the woodwork to post their nonsense. Frankly, I don't care whether 12 people at MyDD vote for Obama, and it's getting ridiculous how much effort some spend trying to sway them...if someone wants to be irrational, they're not going to be talked out of it.

Let 'em go. Who cares?

5). Their are some racists running around claiming to be progressive...Barky, spade, inadequate black man, those are racist terms, let's not claim all these people are worthy of being respected for valid beefs 9although I'm sure some are)

There is just as much responsibility from HRC supporters to create an environment where party unity can be achieved...and that can only happen if they are willing to forgive and have an open-mind.  Most PUMAs have neither.  If you think being opposed to Obama gives you free reign to bash and smear him and then call out "See Obama supporters don't want unity" when we defend him or give our opinion, you are sorely mistaken.

Actually, that's not true; here's a list.

He now supports broader authority for the government's eavesdropping program and legal immunity for telecommunications companies that participated in it, after opposing a similar bill last year.

After the Supreme Court overturned the District of Columbia's gun ban, the handgun-control proponent said he favors both an individual's right to own a gun as well as government's right to regulate ownership.

Obama became the first major-party candidate to reject public financing for the general election after earlier promises to accept it.

He not only embraced but promised to expand Bush's program to give more anti-poverty grants to religious groups, a split with Democratic orthodoxy.

He objected to the Supreme Court's decision outlawing the death penalty for child rapists, even though he has been anti-capital punishment.

Obama also said "mental distress" should not count as a health exception that would permit a late-term abortion, saying "it has to be a serious physical issue," addressing a matter considered crucial to abortion rights activists. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/070 8/11535.html

IMO. It will be their decision in the end to come around or not. Obama has to judge whether or not he can win without him. If not, he has to pander to them, but I suspect that won't even work.

If PUMAs are going to cause Obama to lose, it's already done and the only thing we can do is try our darndest to get him elected and deal with the consequences.

I agree he is a better option, but I can't enable the Party's actions by voting for him. In my opinion everyone who supported Clinton and is turning a blind eye to this gives tacit approval to have future female candidates treated unfairly. It has become a component of a winning strategy. There is nothing to stop it from happening again.

There was sexism in the primaries but there was also racism which many here seem to forget.  They are both bad so one shouldn't cherry pick.

As for "the messiah" thing.  There were times when Obama was covered by the MSM like pure gold, that is true.  There were other times, like the complete months of March and April, where he was ridiculed daily and harshly by the MSM.  In the end it probably balanced out so I don't think your "messiah" comment is objectively fair.

Lastly, I appreciate your grudging support of Obama.  I thought Kerry was horrible and that Dean got screwed in 2004 but in November the choice was easy.  I am hoping that the choice gets easier for a lot of angry dems as we close in on election day.

i find it surprising that people support hillary on the basis of FISA which she didnt even vote on PAA when she was in the area (full disclosure, i campaigned for hillary in 2 states and interned at her DC office for 2 years).  

and as a black person im offended that you're calling obama's speech at a black church, "sistah souljah", a term that was invented by Bill Clinton's campaign. you think that its not an absolute crisis that black men are more likely to go to jail and that OVER 55% of black families are single parent homes? A lot of it has to do with the residuals of past federal welfare policies that created a devastating welfare state in the black community.

Yeah I absolutely hate how hillary was treated in this campaign. i hate it i hate it i hate it. mysoginy is harder to detect, and surprisingly it came  from women too, i.e. katie couric who asked obama in an interview: "doesnt clinton make you go eww..." reinforcing the image that a strong woman is a shrill woman.

but i seriously think you're mistaken if you ever thought Obama was a liberal. maybe on social issues like gay rights yes, but there are conservative and centrist streaks throughout his state senate record, his years at the harvard law review, and conservative values like self reliance  were in his speeches since before 2002. im surprised no one recognized that his healthcare stance was more conservative than edwards or clinton's yet the media kept calling him too liberal.

oops, meant "Democratic Congress and Republican president", etc. (hope that was obvious).  Who would hold Obama accountable?  The Democrats in Congress.  Obama would need their cooperation to get any legislation passed.  McCain, on the other hand, doesn't need the Dems in Congress (he can do what Bush has done, ie. "Go screw yourselves", because he knows they're not going to support his agenda, and so he'll pursue it by expanding executive power).

Dead-enders. Of no importance. They're people who are acting as if one of their favorite characters in a tv show got written out.  It's no more complicated than that.
Obama appears to think that way, too. Hillary and her 18 million supporters will come around. Don't pay them any attention.

Good luck with that attitude.

The above explains why Democratic elites, btw, have nothing but contempt for the PUMA folk (if McCain wins you're limiting their ability to do anything as well, Dems in Congress will be sitting  on their hands for the next four years).

Indeed: the "it's either Hillary Clinton or McCain" write-in campaigns turned out to have the opposite effect.  I think it was one of the Udalls who started to reply to some of them to the effect of "I get letters from supporters of both sides, and I have never, EVER, gotten a letter from an Obama supporter that threatened to vote for McCain.  Shame on you."  And then they'd endorse Obama.