A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton

Obama and Hillary's call for Party's Unity have been cold shouldered by PUMA folks. On the other hand the Anybody But Clinton (ABC) and We hate Clintons (WHC) Folks are taking their Clinton hatred to new levels. During the primary, the Clinton supporters amongst African American community faced different explicit and implicit threats and hatred. Amongst the Black Caucus House of Representatives, there were explicit threats of primary opposition. Now ABC and WHC folks are carrying out their threats to reality. NYTimes is reporting :


Brooklyn's 10th Congressional District, home to more African-Americans than any other in New York, gave Senator Barack Obama his highest margin of victory in the state. But the district's longtime congressman, Edolphus Towns, did not share his constituency's preference for Mr. Obama. Now some of those voters are pushing to oust him.

Kevin Powell is challenging Mr. Towns for his seat. "His decision not to back Obama shows he is out of touch with his constituents," said N. Chandler, a former city corrections officer who lives in Bedford-Stuyvesant and who had supported Mr. Towns in the past. "And I think the people of this district are ready for a change."

The tensions in the district echo those in a handful of races around the country as Democratic incumbents with large African-American constituencies try to soothe resentments and anger incited by their support for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Even after Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton embraced in Unity, N.H., on Friday and sought to put their divisions behind them, some strains are still evident closer to the ground.

In Georgia, Representative John Lewis, a prominent civil rights leader, is facing primary challenges from two black candidates who have been critical of him for backing Mrs. Clinton for months before shifting to Mr. Obama. To underscore the point, one of the challengers set up his headquarters in the same building that served as Mr. Obama's office for the primary. Nearby, in Savannah, Representative John Barrow, who is white but represents a district that is largely black, is under attack from a challenger who says Mr. Barrow was also late to endorse Mr. Obama.

Another New Yorker, Representative Gregory W. Meeks of Queens, faces a primary opponent who has sought to make an issue of Mr. Meeks's support of the Clinton campaign in a district, New York's 6th, where Mr. Obama drew nearly 56 percent of the vote.

The man seeking Mr. Meeks's seat is Ruben Wills, 36, a former chief of staff for State Senator Shirley L. Huntley and an organizer for Mr. Obama in southeast Queens. "I was on board with Obama from Day 1," Mr. Wills said. "Meeks had to be dragged across the line."

And Representative Yvette D. Clarke, of Flatbush, Brooklyn, is running unopposed but lost the endorsement of a vital organization, the Central Brooklyn Independent Democrats, in part because she embraced Mrs. Clinton's candidacy.

Most of these seats are considered safely Democratic, leaving little incentive for the national Democratic Party, or its leaders, to get involved in the races.

Read more http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/01/us/pol itics/01dems.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Now for all the Party Unity threads in MyDD, I'm wondering what would you say if former Hillary supporters now put up candidates against Obama supporters like Kerry, Pelosi et al in retaliation of what is going to Hillary supporters in Congress. This action by the ABC crowd is going to have ripples within the Party. I sincerely hope Clinton helps folks who supported her through the primary.

The Party Unity responsibility lies on all which includes both Hillary and Obama's followers. Folks, primaries are over, get over it. Support Obama for the GE...



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Democracy is a great thing. (1.60 / 5)

People can vote out their elected officials for whatever reason they want.

I suspect that this talk about primarying Clinton endorsers is a lot of hot air.


by Geekesque on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:36:11 PM EST

As you say..watch John Kerry getting challenged (2.00 / 4)

in the primary..


by louisprandtl on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:38:18 PM EST
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Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (2.00 / 7)

Obama should step in and cut the BS at the quick.  We shall see if he's as fast to reject this as he was to reject General Clark.

I seriously doubt it will even register on his radar, and that he will be "shocked, I tell you ... shocked!" to find out this is happening.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:37:40 PM EST

Absolutely...Obama knows that .. (2.00 / 3)

which is why he is supporting Barrows in GA primary much to the dismay of ABC crowd.


by louisprandtl on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:42:03 PM EST
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Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (2.00 / 3)

uh-oh what will Texas complain about now?

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/7/1/18111 7/0313


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:46:16 PM EST
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Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (2.00 / 4)

Complain?  Washingtonians should know Texans don't complain.  We just blast the hell out of whatever is bugging us, and then blast it some more!  15 in the clip and one in the chamber is not just a lyric from the Lynch Mob. ;)

What Texans also do is give it to ya straight.  If you're wrong, then you get told you're wrong.  If you right, and we're wrong, we know it's easier to just say I was less right than you were.

LOL...

However, a great thing is, it's just a coincidence that more often than not...we're always right versus less right than others.


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:56:41 PM EST
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Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Texas, the only state you can shoot someone breaking into your neighbors house!

Actaully. I have fond memories of Texas, mostly Austin and Plano, in my traveling days.

Yeah, the only state in the union where the distance between towns is measured in six-packs!

(I used to travel in Texas in the days of the Semiconductor boom, when you could open container in your car....)


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:03:56 PM EST
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Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (2.00 / 1)

LOL!

Yep...shoot someone in the neighbor's house...AND GET AWAY WITH IT!!!

Even for me that was a little shocking.  But hey...burglers better know now...I'm a lite sleeper!

From Austin to Plano is more than a six-pack, get real!  I (sometimes) love being from a state where you can travel in ANY direction for 6+ hours from the center (Austin) and still not be out of the damn state!

But if you really miss it, I'll ship you some Shiner straight from the brewery.  Call it Texan hospitality!


He that lives upon hope, will die fasting. -Ben Franklin
by TxDem08 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 10:03:27 PM EST
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Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (none / 0)

Hell, you can do that in Los Angeles !!  (lol)


by wblynch on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 08:00:53 PM EST
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OT Joke: (none / 0)

How can you tell if a Texan is married?

There are tobacco stains on both doors of the truck!


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 10:19:22 PM EST
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Feel the unity! (2.00 / 6)

Ah ... like sunshine.


by catfish2 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:55:18 PM EST

Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (2.00 / 5)

Good point

recced


McCain just lied again
by wrb on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:56:58 PM EST

Before you post check previous diaries (2.00 / 1)

Second diary on same subject.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 06:57:53 PM EST

Thanks for letting me know..Didn't see it (2.00 / 2)

before..However did you point the same thing about the repititious PUMA diaries ??...


by louisprandtl on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:03:29 PM EST
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Re: Thanks for letting me know..Didn't see it (2.00 / 1)

Probably not, my bad.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 08:09:19 PM EST
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Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported (2.00 / 3)

I'm just going to hazard a guess and suggest that there is probably some underlying discontent with the existing politicians in the above examples, of which this is a symptom.  I can't imagine that this is even in the top 100 issues for any rational individual.


by rfahey22 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:01:16 PM EST

Personally there are couple of overtly (2.00 / 3)

conservative ones whom I don't have much sympathy for. However when their opponents cite Hillary support in the primaries as the reason to oppose them, it raises lot of red flags for me.


by louisprandtl on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:07:44 PM EST
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Re: Personally there are couple of overtly (2.00 / 3)

Sort of off-topic, but it provides evidence against that whole "superdelegates will exercise independent judgment" idea, doesn't it?


by rfahey22 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:11:38 PM EST
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You are so right...it is not easy for a so (2.00 / 4)

called superdelegate to exercise their independent judgement...

However I think this superdelegate thing needs to be scrapped. It is arcane and stupid, actually was kept in the rules to supercede popular choices. Also the primary system needs a severe revamp.


by louisprandtl on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:18:32 PM EST
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Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported (1.75 / 4)

I'm just going to hazard a guess and suggest that there is probably some underlying discontent with the existing politicians in the above examples, of which this is a symptom

You'd hazard to guess wrong. John Lewis has sterling civil rights credentials and has been stellar in his support of progressive issues.


by Xov Wonk on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 08:01:39 PM EST
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John Lewis is a true Hero.... (2.00 / 2)

He is one guy who will always be a hero to me. We are proud to live in a country where folks like John Lewis are leaders.

The fact he had to flip on HRC during the primaries should not affect his standing amongst progressives and liberals.


by louisprandtl on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 08:05:40 PM EST
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I am so sick of this race card playing (2.00 / 6)

its as if black politicians are saying "you didn't support OUR candidate: you're no good!" It really sounds like that to me. I'm all for civil rights, etc. but what I am not for is race baiting because some supported Hillary. If it were another candidate other than Obama, this would not be happening.


by Lakrosse on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:06:58 PM EST

Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (2.00 / 3)

Very well said. I asked asked a question on another thread as to, why some people go directly to their corners like it's some sort of boxing match, whenever they disagree. This is even more odd as I seem to be able to talk to just about anybody in the physical world and we can almost always agree on something and can almost always agree to disagree in a civil manner. Whatever nonsense is happening here has very little to do with Obama, I suspect. We are more than likely seeing some media hype, some trolling republicans and a whole lot of uncivil, juvenile behavior between people who probably think more alike than not. So please give it a rest people, ignore the idiots, and talk to anyone who is civil and reasonable. You might learn something.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:24:41 PM EST

Re: A New Campaign Charge: You Supported Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Oh and highly rec'd.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:30:53 PM EST
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Absolutely....Obama has our support.. (2.00 / 4)

It doesn't matter if some of the conservative ones fall by during the primaries..it's the logic for opposing that bothered me..


by louisprandtl on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:45:25 PM EST
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Personally... (2.00 / 2)

I don't think this will end being much of a problem;  I was angry when Gov. Napolitano endorsed Barack, but if she was to run for Senate, of course I would support her, and considering how well she's doing here, if she wasn't term limited, I wouldn't support a primary challenger either.

I think in a few months this will all die down; usually primary challenges are based on something much more substantive than a endorsement, see Lieberman vs. Lamont. Ones that are based on silly things like this will most likely never pick up traction, especally since many of these pols are solid Dems.


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:34:54 PM EST

Re: Personally... (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, I have a strong inclination to support Democrats. I also think we need to send washington a message that the people are taking back the country. Even though I am a Dem, that does not mean I like everything or even most things they do. They are however much better (mostly) than the republicans.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:41:17 PM EST
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Re: Personally... (2.00 / 1)

I hope that made sense.


The Moose is on the loose. "And I scream at the top of my lungs, what's going on?"
by Hollede on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:41:37 PM EST
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Loserman still driving me nuts.... (2.00 / 1)

I hope Bill Clinton regrets coming to Waterbury and giving that speech in Waterbury supporting Loserman before the primary. Loserman was on a freefall before then. And Mr. Lamont right after the primary went away for a vacation...I hope he doesn't make repeat his mistakes..

Right now Loserman numbers doesn't look good..
http://quinnipiac.edu/x1296.xml?ReleaseI D=1189

Read Kos's take on it...( i know I know..breaking the pledge...but then primaries are over..we need to move on..We are on the same side as Kos...)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7 /1/145843/5265/209/544897


by louisprandtl on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 07:42:41 PM EST
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Is this a surprise? (2.00 / 3)

Remember when Obama's national co-chair, Jesse Jackson jr, threatened black superdelegates with primary challengers? Did people not think they'd come through with their Chicago style political threats?


by LatinoVoter on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 12:37:11 AM EST

beyond revolting. (2.00 / 2)

its people like this that will ensure a repub WH.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 01:23:37 AM EST

Re: A New Campaign Charge (none / 0)

This was the most excrementalicious diary on a day full of excremetalicious diaries.

No mean feat, that.


by xdem on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 01:31:07 AM EST

Since you have added a new word to the English (none / 0)

lexicon, please explain the word itself for the uninitiated.


by louisprandtl on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 10:31:54 AM EST
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Re: Since you have added a new word to the English (2.00 / 1)

More evidence of the poor quality of American public education.


by xdem on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 10:36:04 AM EST
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Hey, according to the Big Orange, I'm a (none / 0)

low information person. Never claimed to be otherwise. So please pardon my ignorance.:)


by louisprandtl on Wed Jul 02, 2008 at 10:49:20 AM EST
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