MyDD :: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Tonight

by upstate girl on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:48:19 PM EST
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C'mon, these are Presidential candidates - they've got the whole Rock Band package with extra downloaded tracks. Axelrod is on bass and McAuliffe is on drums.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

Mmmm... You just made me picture Michelle Obama playing bass.

by vcalzone on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:50:38 PM EST
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by DPW on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:55:37 PM EST
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Or maybe Rock Band, so everyone can get on an instrument. Barack on bass, Hillary on Guitar, and Bill keepin' it steady on the skins. Song choice: War Pigs by Black Sabbath, dedicated to John McCain.

by DawnG on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:47:58 PM EST
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Maybe that is the secret to world peace right there!

Re: Guitar Hero! (2.00 / 3)

dude, they got advance copies of Tuba Hero ;p

by zerosumgame on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:55:29 PM EST
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Re: Guitar Hero! (2.00 / 1)

Silly Marshmallow...

They BOUGHT ROCK BAND... With the add-on smoke machine...

Obama Sings, Hillary is on Guitar, Bill's Drumming and Chelsea is on Bass.

They are jammin out to the Grateful Dead download back. Obama does a MEAN version of Truckin.

by yitbos96bb on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 01:03:35 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

His campaign plane sat loaded w/ press for 45 mins and then took off without him! What a media fake-out! They managed to send out a last minute blackberry SOS, though, that the candidate was missing!

Tricky Barack

by nwodtuhs on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:34:42 PM EST

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sneaky sneaky

by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:42:26 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

The old "paintjob in the carwash" trick.

Speaking of which, I bet Hillary and Barack are playing Grand Theft Auto right now.

When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?

by Jess81 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:58:05 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

nah they are probably playing some Halo3 against some repubs.

by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:25:09 PM EST
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I bet McCain is (none / 0)

camping

by Neef on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:51:24 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

That's quality.

I don't know what I like better, Obama putting Lieberman in a corner or taking the media on the magic mystery flight.

Conduct your own interview of Sarah Palin!

by fwiffo3 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:42:04 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (2.00 / 1)

Lieberman on a magic mystery flight?

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:42:59 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

There's always this:

This morning in Virginia's Appalachian mountains, 95-year-old Charles Edwards presented Barack Obama with a big maple stick that he had carved as a gift. Obama held it in his hand and shook it, smiling:

"I like it! And if members of Congress don't pass my health care bill, I'm ready. I'll whoop `em. I'll whoop `em. That's right. They'd better not mess with me. I'll have that stick."

The power of the "stick," of course, is whether a president can mobilize members of the public in large enough numbers to cause members of Congress that thought they wouldn't back his initiatives to suddenly turn around and support him....

Oh, wait.

Al Giordano - Ready to Whoop `Em on Day One The Field 5 Jun 08

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:24:56 PM EST
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Now if they can just arrange mid-air (none / 0)

refueling and keep the plane flying indefinitely, that would be a measurable improvement...

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:34:39 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (2.00 / 1)

I think it bodes well. No doubt there will be a bit of clearing the air, and some honest talk about how to accomodate Hillary's wishes after her accomplishments during the campaign.

I also think she'll find out she won't be VP, for myriad reasons. But certainly, she's earned something nice that she wants, and there will be a big recognition for her at the convention.

I'm also sure not only that Obama will pave the way for both Hillary and Bill to regain their reputation with African Americans, but it will also be on them to heal the rift with women.

There will be no more talk of sexism, mysogyny, nor of her claim to the popular vote.

by xyz on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:41:17 PM EST

That would be (none / 0)

an excellent outcome

by Neef on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:06:17 PM EST
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I'm channeling (none / 0)

Obama!

I do think that's about how it will go, though

by xyz on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:29:22 PM EST
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Re: Dinner for Two (none / 0)

I hope they have a nice dinner, and I also hope someone starts enforcing the rules against trashing Democrats on MyDD.

by xdem on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:01:10 PM EST

Re: Dinner for Two (2.00 / 1)

Forget that. I think there are some other sites that should have to do that first including the hate site over at dkos. Taking away markos credetials in denver would be a good start.

daivd

by giusd on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:20:26 PM EST
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Oh please. (1.80 / 5)

I haven't seen a single diary on the DKos rec list anywhere near as nasty as the trash that was routinely rec-listed here, nor were Hillary supporters on DKos ever deprived of rec rights for no valid reason as so many Obama supporters were here. Not to mention that unlike here, where non-primary but important and content-filled diaries were almost universally ignored in favor of anti-Obama hate screeds, non-primary diaries made the rec list regularly over there, as did a number of diaries by Hillary supporters.

Anybody from MyDD calling DKos a hate site ought to heed the famous advice about eyes, motes, and beams.

Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?

by Elsinora on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:31:11 PM EST
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Well then, I guess the only thing to say is that (2.00 / 1)

there are plenty of us (former Kossacks) in here who feel we have had different experiences and different perceptions than you have.

by aggieric on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:36:08 PM EST
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Key word in there being... (1.50 / 2)

FORMER Kossacks. The Kos that most people here base their hatred off of hasn't existed for several months, but since they couldn't be bothered to check back, they simply assume that nothing has changed.

And I stand by what I said before: at its worst, the anti-Hillary sentiment there was no more virulent or universal than the anti-Obama hysteria was here. If anything, it was less so, because non-primary diaries were embraced there as places where both sides could find common cause, whereas here they were totally ignored in favor of "OMG HE FLIPPED HER OFF--WITH TWO FINGERS!".

Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?

by Elsinora on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:44:44 PM EST
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Re: Key word in there being... (2.00 / 1)

That would have to be a candidate for 'worst home video forensics of the 2008 election.' Sigh.

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:46:43 PM EST
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Re: Dinner for Two (none / 0)

david-

So you think we should be trashing Dems on this site?

Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.

by hootie4170 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:17:42 PM EST
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Re: Dinner for Two (none / 0)

Well i guess i dont think Markos is a democrat?

david

by giusd on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 09:02:53 AM EST
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Only Good Will Come Of This (2.00 / 1)

These are professional politicians who are going to put party first. There are frayed feelings and desires on each side and both are empathetic and pragmatic people.

This is still a great sign though. I hope this leads to a very soon joint appearance with some good symbology and strategy (maybe a swing together through Florida, Ohio and Penn?).

I think we need some strong visuals of the two together (and maybe Bill thrown in as well or maybe side trips with Bill and Obama together). And not just one time, multiple times, that will really help us who arent so professional and pragmatic.

But honestly, at this point I dont care too much. Im already at the stage where I am confident things will work out and all we need is time and it will probably happen quicker than I hope.

by pattonbt on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:01:34 PM EST

I wish some of y'all would grow up (2.00 / 2)

and stop carping at each other. Obama and Hillary supporters.

This is a meeting Barack spoke to Hillary about - they agreed she would choose the time and the place. They have a lot to discuss - campaign staff, Saturday, the upcoming fund-raising meeting - and future campaigning.

This is a good thing.

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by NeciVelez on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:05:40 PM EST

Weird it's at her home. (1.00 / 1)

Kind of looks like she's still the boss.

by catfish2 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:11:29 PM EST
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by Christy1947 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:35:38 PM EST
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Don't some of the posters here just wish.

Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.

Whatever gets you to sleep at night...

by hootie4170 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:18:29 PM EST
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by MsElaineyUs on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:29:56 AM EST
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It wasn't at her house. Another rouse to escape the press. A secret rendez-vous! A small cafe. A bottle of wine. Candles.....

by yitbos96bb on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 01:05:52 AM EST
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God, I hope not... I don't think I could take another Sex Scandal with Bil... Oh you were going a different route there. ;-)

Yes Pure Snark....

Seriously though... lets just pray that we never see that again with a President or Nominee of ours.

Re: Barack Obama (none / 0)

hahaaa.

"we are outside her house, we can see all the shades shut, the downstair light is on, and something presumbably going on....wait....wait.. a dog just tok a crap on her lawn...there seems to be suds coming out the laundry door,.... presumably meaning that they are.... washing socks...more as it developes..."

by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:10:00 PM EST

He needs time on his own (2.00 / 1)

If she is the veep now, he will never get the spotlight to himself. Give him some time.

by catfish2 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:10:38 PM EST

If you can stand the heat... (2.00 / 0)

get in the kitchen and help me with these dishes.

by Casuist on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:11:45 PM EST

I wonder if the President is there (2.00 / 1)

and part of any deal should be Obama, to go on the Daily Kos, write a column that is highly positive and praising of the Clintons. Tell them to stop throwing names and rumors and bs scandals around. Second, tell every black pastor to never EVER smear the Clintons the way they did in this campaign. Make sure every Jeremiah Wright and Pfleger shut their mouths about them.

by Lakrosse on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:12:15 PM EST

Re: I wonder if the President is there (2.00 / 1)

I'm pretty sure Obama and Clinton do not spend much time worrying about our little blog squabbles.

by vinc on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:25:50 PM EST
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Re: I wonder if the President is there (1.00 / 2)

Maybe when she runs down and does something to all the Clinton supporters who posted the Muslim terrorists claims, the "Go back to Africa" stuff, the Sambo dialect jokes, the vicious remarks about Michelle, the abuse of ministers and the black church, and so on . . . You get the idea. Unity is hard but you can't ask for what you do not give.

by Christy1947 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:38:25 PM EST
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Re: I wonder if the President is there (none / 0)

And every day for the next four years Hillary can

Attest that he did indeed pass the Commander in Chief threshold.
Swear on a Bible that he's not a secret Muslin instead of the "as far as I know" answer.

by MsElaineyUs on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:32:25 AM EST
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Re: I wonder if the President is there (none / 0)

I assure you she will do that on saturday. Also, the "as far as I know" was only said because she was pressed on the question forever, as if there was some secret from 60 Minutes

by Lakrosse on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 02:54:32 AM EST
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Re: Hillary Clinton as vp (none / 0)

Over at talkleft most people want him to make it on his own--out of anger I think. I personally think Hillary would be a much stronger advocate for her issues in the Senate, and I think they'd welcome back very easily. I think people who don't think so haven't run for office. Its no easy thing to amass 18 million supporters in a hotly contested election, without enough money, with out the support of the press, and without the support of the party.

by FarWest on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:12:28 PM EST

Re: Hillary Clinton as vp (none / 0)

It's 17 million and they are not "hers"
A large percentage are Democrats and would easily vote for Barack Obama. They voted Clinton because they know the name. People don't' belong to a candidate. Voting for them does not mean you own them.

by MsElaineyUs on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:35:48 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

It seems folks are still crazed.

More time.

And more of McCain's weird grins.

I'm heightist, by the way, but I do think him a cute little feller, especially when mad.

by wrb on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:12:49 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (2.00 / 5)

Guess who's coming to dinner?

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:17:35 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

Haha oh that's bad.

When you start out making the "slippery slope" argument, where do you draw the line?

by Jess81 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:23:20 PM EST
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Shhh... That one just might slip under the radar.

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:41:20 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

i caught you!!

by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:48:18 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

Well, just so long as the flying monkeys don't get wind of it...

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:30:53 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

I love this method of ditching the press. I've never seen it done quite like that before.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/arch ives/2008/06/questions_about_the_secret_ mee.php

by mady on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:24:06 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

I hope they had pizza and beer handy wherever that plane was headed. But at least Barack and Hillary have something they can both have a laugh about.

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:52:57 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (1.00 / 1)

Barack, Count the silver and have the house checked for listen devices.

Just kidding.

We shall overcome. Yes we can.

by Sam Wise Gingy on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:25:34 PM EST

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funny. not.

again, buying into the right wing smears....

stay classy.

by colebiancardi on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:33:21 PM EST
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Is there any white smoke yet? (2.00 / 1)

by pattonbt on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:27:52 PM EST

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They are meeting at her house so maybe she should watch the silver. Just kidding too.

by vic0826 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:33:10 PM EST

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again, right wing smear tactics. nice

how would you like me to use some right wing smear tactics against the Obamas' and say just kidding?

I didn't think so

stay classy

by colebiancardi on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:35:08 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (1.00 / 1)

What are you talking about?

by vic0826 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:36:15 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (2.00 / 1)

why would the Clintons' need to watch their silver?

by colebiancardi on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:37:32 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (1.00 / 2)

Because a black man came to dinner. Don't you know that all black men are thieves. And worse than that, he is a Muslim.

by monkeyga on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:28:18 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (2.00 / 1)

I was hoping that wasn't it.

and I know he put the just kidding in there, but man, totally inappropriate comment.

by colebiancardi on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:33:25 PM EST
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You mistook (none / 0)

the target of his joke.

Your comment is still appropriate.

by Neef on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:38:52 PM EST
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Re: You mistook (2.00 / 1)

yep, I thought it was a rip from sam's earlier comment.

I still stand firm in my resolve with the cheap shot republican smear talking points.

not good for anyone to use here.

by colebiancardi on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:42:53 PM EST
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it's just a joke (none / 0)

jokes about hillary, jokes about obama. you're really going to start policing against all of us? have a sense of humor

by ab03 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:31:38 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (1.50 / 2)

seriously guys - if right wing smear attacks are now the norm here, I think it is fair to call those who use them TROLLS or FREEPERS. And TR them for being such trolls

stay classy

by colebiancardi on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:36:30 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

Seriously, what right wing smear are you talking about. The couple of jokes about people lifting silver?

by vic0826 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:38:10 PM EST
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I'm thinking (2.00 / 2)

they are having anonymous pizzas delivered to RNC HQ.

No Press = plausible deniability

by Neef on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:41:12 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (2.00 / 1)

This person, by Sam Wise Gingy on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:25:34 PM EST, joked about Barack, watch the silver and listening devices and said just kidding. I joked back and pointed out since the meeting is at her house maybe she should watch the silver. Keep up and relax. If you can make a right wing smear out of that exchange we are in for a bumpy ride.

by vic0826 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:41:33 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (1.00 / 1)

I got it. You were punning off of Sam's comment.

But my statement holds true - regardless if it was a pun or not - and that is to all here.

I'm tired of hearing how Obama needs to have a food taster or count the silverware.

those are republican smear points. And counterattacking back is not useful either.

sorry, that is just how I feel about it right now.

by colebiancardi on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:45:54 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (2.00 / 2)

why the hell would barack need to count the silverware? its hillary's house. he doesn't own silverware. both silverware comments were always about hillary. criminy.

it's just beyond your comprehension that an obama supporter can make a joke about their own candidate, isn't it?

get over yourself. and if you're so raw, maybe it's you who needs to take a break from the blog

by ab03 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:34:49 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

Yes!

by vic0826 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:44:07 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

You are taking this way, way, way too seriously. If you can't take it - have a break, but stop pissing on everyone else.

by interestedbystander on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 06:08:16 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting (2.00 / 2)

This thread is effing MADNESS. madness I say!!

[proceeds to run out of room, arms flayling.]

by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:47:04 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Meeting (2.00 / 1)

Pillow fights and paint-ball contests are great for stress relief. The should have them in Congress.

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:54:06 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting (none / 0)

dont underestimate them pillows. man with the right force it could knock you out.

--im a victim of unwarranted pillow force--

by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:56:46 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting (none / 0)

In my experience it's the paint-ball guns in the hands of the accounting department that really gets out of hand. It's a shocker...

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:58:46 PM EST
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Big fan of anything with the word `Nerf` (none / 0)

involved...

For $5 you can get these great foam disk guns at Toys-R-Us. Christmas at home (or any other less predictable occasion) always finds new things like that around here.

Also encourage their use in the office. Been a remote worker a lot for years, always try to show up in the office with some foam weapons from time to time to completely disrupt productivity...

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:28:30 PM EST
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Re: Big fan of anything with the word `Nerf` (2.00 / 1)

I admire your style. 'Productivity' is highly over-rated and rarely measured...

by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:44:53 PM EST
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it took me 10 minutes (none / 0)

to repress the urge to reply SPA...ahem.

Anyway.

by Neef on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:55:40 PM EST
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Re: it took me 10 minutes (none / 0)

SPA= ??

by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 10:58:17 PM EST
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That`s the sound of the eagle on Colbert (none / 0)

`SPA!`

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:30:36 PM EST
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Re: That`s the sound of the eagle on Colbert (none / 0)

RTA!!!

by Neef on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:37:13 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

Wouldn't you love to have been a fly on the wall during THAT meeting?

by zenful6219 on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:16:37 PM EST

If Ambinder is right and Obama asked for this (2.00 / 1)

it's pretty ballsy and not just for being a big fuck you to the press.

by JJE on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:31:45 PM EST

Obama Hate at Talkleft (2.00 / 1)

If you really don't believe that there is a lot of Obama hate out there, check out this thread at talkleft

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/6/5/1 8202/39151

Look at the postings from tek and from shannon and from many others.

Look at how people comment how funny the thread is. yeah, because saying Michelle wants to kill whitey is really funny.

This is really where you get into hate speech.

I have yet to see or read anything here against Hillary that is as bile filled and hate filled as this.

And yet Armando and Jeralyn do nothing about these people.

Is this really representative of what HRC stands for? I would really like to see some answers on this

by monkeyga on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:38:08 PM EST

Re: Obama Hate at Talkleft (none / 0)

300 people... that's who's posting all this stuff, and we have no idea how many are operation chaos operatives.

There will be some Clinton or no one people out there, just like there would have been Barack or no one...

Just remember, that there are Republican anti-McCain dead enders as well. I know one!

"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"

by LordMike on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:59:51 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Meeting with Hillary Clinton Toni (none / 0)

herm, kinda looking like they pulled another fast one... not at her house after all.

Watch out DC two big rollers are loose, will the city ever be the same after tonight?

dun da dun

by notedgeways on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:16:34 AM EST

JUST A THOUGHT... (2.00 / 1)

Thomas DeFrank in the New York Daily News today: "Stick a fork in Hillary, no use a STAKE instead" Ah now the Obama loving press wants us to believe that Hillary Clinton is a vampire. This is after Don Imus has referred to her numerous times as Satan. And they wonder why we're still pissed off. If the situation were reversed they wouldn't use anything near this language about Obama. Mr DeFrank is a frequent guest on Obama's campaign manager's show, better known as Hardball.

by handsomegent on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:36:50 AM EST

The Daily News (none / 0)

is not the Obama-loving press. It is a New York tabloid in the same vein as the Post.

by JJE on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:39:24 AM EST
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Re: The Daily News (none / 0)

It sure is part of the Obama loving press, tabloid or no tabloid. Have you ever read its columnists like Mike Lupica?

by handsomegent on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 01:22:01 AM EST
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Re: The Daily News (1.00 / 1)

Lupica is an idiot no matter what he writes about. The fact that he's stupid about politics isn't a surprise, since he's been stupid about sports for so long.

by Marylander on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 01:25:16 AM EST
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by Shaun Appleby on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 12:39:36 AM EST
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Have fun, I reckon you've got about another week, tops.

by handsomegent on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 01:20:41 AM EST
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Another week for what?--to point out the incredible bias of the press?

by Shaun Appleby on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 01:26:15 AM EST
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Whatever you think you are doing, yeah.

by handsomegent on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 07:26:59 AM EST
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And then what happens after a week, am I supposed to melt away like a famous "witch" should.

by Shaun Appleby on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 07:35:35 AM EST
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Never figured you for the brown sugar kinda' guy. I was thinking more along the lines of 'hoist with your own petard.'

by handsomegent on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 09:44:03 AM EST
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And just what constitutes my petard? That Saint Barack won this nomination on the backs of NON-DEMS in Iowa? Or the fact that he gets 92-96% of the vote from his particular enthic group and we are FORBIDDEN to even mention it. Or that "thrill goes up my leg" press that he gets just never lets up. Bill C was described by frequent Matthews guest Tom DeFrank this morning in my paper as "rabid", yesterday HRC was described needing a "stake" stuck in her. This motherfucking horseshit would NEVER be tolerated if Edwards or Obama were in the same spot. As you know very well.

by Shaun Appleby on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 09:47:17 AM EST
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Boom. See what I mean.

by handsomegent on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 11:21:39 AM EST
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Oh, and you're a regular Bhudda I suppose, just as calm as they come.

by Shaun Appleby on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 11:26:15 AM EST
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No but I usually manage to hold on to the pin and throw the grenade.

by handsomegent on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 01:19:31 PM EST
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So witty arentcha? I stand on principle okay.

by Shaun Appleby on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 07:28:34 PM EST
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Well, fine, but I think you'll find that the level of discord over the Obama nomination is going to decline pretty rapidly around here. Have you noticed the number of diaries by formerly incendiary posters who have come around to acceptance of the outcome and willingness to support the Democratic candidate lately? If you continue these unequivocal attacks I'm guessing, given your tendency toward inflammatory statements, that you are going to get a lot of push-back and resistance. It's a thin line between principle and trolling sometimes, I mean if I went over to Red State and stood on my principles I would be rightly considered a troll, wouldn't I, or at best a pet lefty?

by magnoliagirl on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 11:53:48 AM EST
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You are absolutely right about these media comments, they are ridiculous. But to pretend that they have only happened to HRC, only due to sexism, is also ridiculous. There are people, as we speak, selling t-shirts with monkey images on them, depicting BO.

You are so mad at a few supporters who read and reply to blogs: the majority of supporters on either Dem side are even-keeled, reasonable, patriotic Americans who would support either candidate against McCain in November. No one has forbidden anyone from mentioning that African Americans voted for BO (although your stats are laughably off..are you really asserting that 96% of Americans who voted for BO are African American?) It is the implication that these votes are somehow invalid, or worth less, and that AA's are only voting for him because of his race, that is racist and "horseshit."

Imus is an idiot who called female college basketball players "nappy-headed ho's." Are you really wasting valuable energy being indignant at anything he says? Of COURSE he uses sexist rhetoric, it gets him ratings with right-wing jerks.

I would condemn all day anything Rush Limbaugh says, or anyone on Fox News, but I also recognize that they have an agenda and they are using the most effective weapons at their disposal to spread it, including sexism and racism and fear. If I want it to stop, I write letters, boycott their advertisers, and confront THEM, not the supporters of the Dem candidate who is as progressive and as much a feminist as the woman who ran against him. I am sure BO would defend HRC if he heard someone imply that she is a vampire. If you are really honest, there were some moments in this campaign when HRC had a chance to defend racist language against BO, and she chose not to.

"Resentment is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other person to die."