Humility in Victory and Defeat

My friends, today is a day of firsts.

Of course, we begin with the fact that the first non-white male in American history has been nominated as a major party candidate for the presidency of the United States.  Of this, much has and will be written or said.

Today, also, marks my first time ever posting a diary on MyDD, or indeed any blog ever.  I have been a devoted reader of this and other blogs for a long time but have never felt compelled to write anything.  Today is the right day to start.

I am young, African-American, and male.  And I have been a Clinton campaign staffer during this primary season.

About 20 minutes ago, I went to Facebook and signed up as a Barack Obama supporter.  This shouldn't have been a big deal - I mean, it's an internet site, and all I did was click a button - but my heart was literally pounding as I did it.  It is exceedingly difficult for me to acknowledge that this primary season is over, both as a political junkie and as a Clinton supporter.  But acknowledge it I must.  Despite whatever unfairness, prejudice, and error - real or perceived - that has occurred during this primary season, there is little doubt that it is over, and that Barack Obama has secured the number of delegates necessary to win the nomination of our party.

Now, let me make it clear, I will continue to support Senator Clinton's decision not to concede until she decides that the time is right.  I would gladly cast another ballot for her if given the opportunity.  And politically speaking, the theatrics of her withdrawal from the race are so important that I think it would have been malpractice to do haphazardly it last night.  But the fact that she has not formally conceded does not change the fact that Obama has won and she has lost.  I firmly and honestly believe that she had the right and the obligation to people like me, who have so much invested in her candidacy, to see this thing through to the end.  I resisted so strongly the calls for her to exit the race prior to yesterday because the idea of a "foregone conclusion" when the race was so close and so many people left to vote is anathema to democracy.  But the time for her concession is coming, and don't let the punditocracy whip you into a frenzy suggesting that it is not.  That is NOT based on any inside information, but rather the reality that as of YESTERDAY (not March 4, not April 22, and not May 6), Obama crossed the threshold.  The end is now.

So I write today to offer one word of advice to everyone was involved in the primary campaign: humility.  To Obama supporters, but also to Clinton supporters like myself.  Webster's defines humility in the negative: the absence from pride and arrogance.  All of us, especially on a day like today, and especially in the blogosphere which has become so poisoned during this primary season, could use a little more of it.

To Obama supporters, you won.  But remember that, even in the most generous count (excluding Florida and Michigan and using caucus estimates), you did so by about 400,000 votes out of 36 million cast.   That is 1%.  50.5%-49.5%.  Spare me the talk about delegates for a moment and simply realize that nearly half of the Democratic primary electorate voted for the other guy - er, gal.  I say this not to disparage the victory whatsoever, only to suggest that nearly half of your friends, colleagues, ideological and political compatriots did not share your preference.  To win in November, we should work to make sure that every single person in that 49.5% votes for Obama.  And while much of the onus lies with the candidates themselves, it does no good - none at all - for Obama supporters to proudly and arrogantly celebrate the death of Hillary Clinton's candidacy.  The hopes and dreams of a lot of people go with her.  So be humble.  Sympathize.  Find or remember what you like about Hillary Clinton - who is, after all, a Democrat - and give it voice.  Ask for the support of her voters rather than demanding it.  It doesn't take much to extend the olive branch.

To Clinton supporters (especially any campaign friends of mine who might be reading this), we lost.  It is okay to admit it, and it is more than okay to say that Barack Obama was not your first choice, but he is certainly now the best choice.  There is a point at which devotion to your party and your country comes before devotion to your candidate and, I submit to you, that point has arrived.  And particularly for those who gave, who volunteered, and who worked on behalf of Senator Clinton, there is great wisdom in the words of Teddy Roosevelt:

The credit belongs to the man in the arena whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

Be proud of what you've done - I sure as hell am - but lose with grace and humility.  We have been bested by a great competitor and, hopefully, a great President.  And even if you are not ready to click the Facebook button, I have every faith that Barack Obama will do what he can to earn all of our enthusiastic support over the next five months.  So keep an open mind and don't let disappointment become a substitute for good judgment.

Thank you for reading. I hope you will recommend this diary and look forward to reading your comments.



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Thank You (2.00 / 15)

great diary, virtually recommended.


by parahammer on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:53:12 PM EST

Fantastic diary. (2.00 / 12)

Highly recommended.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:54:57 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 11)

Thank you for this.

Welcome aboard.  We were never really apart.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:54:59 PM EST

Never? (none / 0)

"We were never really apart."
I don't think simply putting lipstick on the pig (the constant bashing and smearing of Clinton and her supporters) will do the trick. Obama needs the full support of the Clinton camp now. This means, lots of Obama supporters will have to stop their demonizing of Clinton. But will bad old habits die so soon?
:-/
No way, no how, no McCain!
by Gray on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:50:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Most Obama and Clinton (2.00 / 2)

supporters never did that.  It was primarily a few loud voices on blogs.  But even among them, just reach out to each other.  You fought, but it's over now.

Senator Clinton is endorsing Obama on Saturday and seeks inity.  So does Obama.  


by TomP on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:30:32 AM EST
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Re: Never? (2.00 / 1)

This means, lots of Obama supporters will have to stop their demonizing of Clinton. But will bad old habits die so soon?

This is something you can't control. What you can control is how you behave and how much humility (as the diarist suggests) you exhibit.

Take responsibility for your own actions, please.


by Metrobot on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 03:15:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Never? (none / 0)

"Take responsibility for your own actions, please."
Now, what's that "advice" good for? Do you have any evidence that I don't do so?

Why don't you instead call all those Clinton haterz to task, reminding them of taking responsibility for THEIR actions?


No way, no how, no McCain!
by Gray on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 05:12:35 AM EST
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Re: Never? (none / 0)

I'm just sick of people saying they can't support this or that until some anonymous blogger performs an act of contrition.

Take you own actions. As soon as you make your own actions dependent on what other bloggers do, you lose all agency.

Or they're just looking for an excuse to be nasty.


by Metrobot on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 03:08:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Rec'd (2.00 / 7)

Thanks for taking the time to write this.


by highgrade on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:55:54 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 11)

Thanks, ASDem... and an outstanding first diary!


The universe is a casual place, not a suit-and-tie affair.
by mtnspirit on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 06:59:03 PM EST

Way to Start with a Bang (2.00 / 14)

That was really, really, really well said.  It is appreciated and I hope everyone here takes it to heart.


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:00:06 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 11)

it was beautiful. I dont want to say I teared, cause I didn't, but Im all choked up.

you're awesome.


by alyssa chaos on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:03:51 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 14)

We need more of these diaries. And less of trashing of supporters of both sides. Guys, this is over on Friday. Let Sen. Clinton have her day, congratulate her and her supporters, and then we can turn our focus on McCain. Go Democrats!


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:10:53 PM EST

Or Saturday. (2.00 / 4)

No worries, I can wait.  Senator Clinton is worth it.


by McNasty on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:52:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Absolutely... (2.00 / 9)

...brilliant!!


A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin
by hootie4170 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:13:43 PM EST

Love the TR quote. (2.00 / 7)

Great diary, thank you for writing this.


by catfish2 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:14:12 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 9)

Well said and thanks for your moral courage in posting here.  We are all Democrats first.  Your candidate ran a credible and tenacious campaign, all the more so once she took control of it.  Congratulations to Democrats for waging a historic and unprecedented primary campaign.  On to the White House!


by Shaun Appleby on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:19:55 PM EST

Awsome. (2.00 / 8)

Rec'd.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:23:32 PM EST

Recommended! (2.00 / 11)

Diaries like this are a big reason I came back over to play in this yard rather than the Big Orange One. Listening to people come together from all sides is much more gratifying than listening to the screeds that CONTINUE over there.

As an Obama supporter, I wanna see people coming together so I can learn how to bring my Real Life Clinton Supporter friends into the fold at their pace. From here alone I know how not to push too hard yet, and to gently and briefly bring up issues when McSame's name enters the conversation. This place is great practice!


by RNinNC on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:26:07 PM EST

Re: Recommended! (2.00 / 16)

Here would be my advice, as one of those real life Clinton supporters - 1) acknowledge that the race was close, 2) acknowledge that Hillary Clinton was and is a good Democrat and, perhaps most importantly, 3) acknowledge that Obama needs the support of her supporters to win the White House.

Then ask what it will taken for Obama to EARN their support.

It ain't rocket science, but if you go over to DailyKos it'll be hard to find a frontpage poster or rec'd diary that would make any of those "concessions."


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:33:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"Over There" (none / 0)

Yeah, I only go back "there" to read the non-candidate info. Rarely commment.

I'm in decent shape with my Clinton supporting friends 'cause my argument all along has NOT been that there was something "wrong" with Clinton, only with her campaign management. I was honestly afraid, looking at her Primary campaign, that she'd run a poor campaign strategy in the General as well. I'm still more an ex-Edwards guy than an 'Obamabot'.  ;)

And I continue to ask what Obama needs to say or do to make their transition easier. I've found that throwing up the real life threats of a McCain Presidency doesn't seem to work - quite yet. Not ready to hear that. I think once time passes, the obvious damage that a McCain Presidency would lead to will soften 99% of Clinton voters into doing the right thing - even if they might not be completely thrilled.


by RNinNC on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:40:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

we share a brain (2.00 / 2)

seriously.

that's been my argument to them offline as well. i will not disparage clinton to them.  i don't think she deserves it.  but i have always said that the folks at the top of the food chain did her a disservice, especially early on.  but i think we should acknowledge that clinton taking control during the last months made a big difference.  i'm convinced she'd have made a fine president.

it was never issues that decided my choice between the two - it was always how obama's campaign was run.

and yea, i got on that bus after edwards dropped.  funny that.


Visit us at TexasKAOS, where we're taking Texas back!
by annatopia on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:43:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Just a Couple of Days Ago (2.00 / 4)

I was saying to my STRONGEST Clinton Supporting friend that if they had traded campaign teams before this whole campaign began, Clinton would've run away with this as had been predicted. With MacAuliffe et al. behind him, Obama would've faltered equally. Much will be learned for the future from her falling short of her goal.


by RNinNC on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:51:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

i agree completely n/t (2.00 / 1)


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by annatopia on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:20:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Recommended! (2.00 / 2)

You might be surprised about that Asdem; I'm a fairly new Kossack and have definitely have given Hillary a piece of my mind "over there", but we have been very eager to extend an olive branch, and there are many doing so, actively, now.  The problem is, everytime we are ready to start bridging the tiny gap between our two camps, Hillary will say or do something that we feel is inexcusable -- last night's speech is a great example of this.  I won't go into it, but reverse the situation and I think you'll understand why some of us are really upset about this today.

BUT, we are ready to move on; we are ready to patch things up; we are ready to give and take and get back together again.

I really appreciate your diary, and I do feel your pain, if you'll pardon the Clinton quote; I've been where you are, and it hurts; but it's not like it's Bush over Gore, or Bush over Kerry, or Bush over Dukakis; it's one of US who is the nominee, and it's one of US who is going to be the next President(and I'm referring to Obama, Terry Mac).  So, yes, let the healing begin.  We over at Dkos will do our best not to gloat too much, but come on, you have to give us a little time to enjoy a hard earned victory.


by PittsburghPete on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:26:41 PM EST
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Re: Recommended! (2.00 / 1)

I think a lot of the 'don't-give-an-inch' Obama supporters are still in full-battle mode (like some Clinton supporters). They're worried that if they give in, at all, that suddenly we'll see Clinton withdraw her concession and start up the talk about taking it to Denver. You'll see this stuff die off after Saturday. Anyone still bitching after that is probably a troll.

However, I, for one, do concede that it was a VERY close race. One of the closest in history. The popular vote totals show that we have two extraordinarily strong candidates. Wouldn't it be great if every presidential primary had this kind of talent?
This could have easily gone Clinton's way. Her
loss is not a poor reflection on her or her talents, but to the unprecedented nature of Obama's organizing and ground-up campaign. No one expected it to work, and that it did is an amazing tribute to the involvement of the nation.  

Hillary Clinton is a good democrat, and has always fought for noble, progressive causes. Unfortunately, her political identity was forged in a time when democrats were forced into a permanent bunker mentality by the Reagan revolution. These are tough habits to change, but over the past couple of months, we have seen her begin to emerge from that shell. I honestly believe that this defeat will allow her to abandon some of the 'triangulation' of her past and become a bold and decisive senator.

Absolutely, Obama will need Clinton's supporters in the upcoming battle. This is something that should really go without saying. Splitting the party only satisfies the opposition. It's not about 'duty' as a democrat, but what's clearly best for this nation. We've learned over the past eight long years how much damage an ignorant ideologue can do in the White House.

When we look back, what has been accomplished this year has been truly astonishing. A woman was the early front runner and prohibitive favorite for the nomination for over a year. NO ONE believed that she wasn't up to the job. For all the objections some had to her as president, 'she's a woman' wasn't one of them. (People said that she would do things they wouldn't like, but no one  so much as suggested that she was INCAPABLE).
A young, African-American outsider captured the imagination and passion for involvement of millions of ordinary Americans and got them to open their pocketbooks for the first truly 'people-powered' presidential run.

We have had two candidates that have galvanized a nation. Back in December, we all believed we had an embarrassment of riches in our choice for President. Many of us stopped feeling that way through (as The Daily Show put it) the Long Flat Seemingly Endless Bataan Death March through the primaries, but I think we were right the first time.

Two ludicrously good candidates in a long and tight race. Two campaigns that have absolutely buried EVERYTHING that has come before in EVERY conceivable metric (votes cast, states visited, money raised, money spent, and bad predictions).

It's been incredible, and I'm glad it's over.

Time for round two.

Here's to victory in '08  


by EvilAsh on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 06:10:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Wish I could recommend this diary (2.00 / 8)

Thanks for writing up your experience so eloquently and sharing it here.


by Bee on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:29:07 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 3)

Thanks. Highly recommended and appreciated.


Barack Obama is my President
by Jeter on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:36:36 PM EST

so happy you posted this asdem (2.00 / 3)

and i hope you'll read my diary from earlier today regarding clinton's speech last night.  you guys did a killer job.  kudos for all the time and sweat you put into this race.  realise you were a part of making history and it's not over yet.  welcome aboard!


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by annatopia on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:38:06 PM EST

Re: so happy you posted this asdem (2.00 / 6)

I just did, and you are absolutely right.  That speech last night was for people like me.  The speech on Friday will be for people like you.  And the first rally that they do together - Hillary introducing Barack, Michelle and  the President in the background, Chelsea playing with Malia and Sasha - that one is gonna be for all of us.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:42:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

that is the stuff (none / 0)

dreams are made of.  i can't wait to see it come true. =)


Visit us at TexasKAOS, where we're taking Texas back!
by annatopia on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:44:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: so happy you posted this asdem (2.00 / 1)

I love the image of Chelsea playing with Malia and Sasha.


by pomology on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:46:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 2)

This diary is excellent and yes, we all need to be humble now.

And to kick McCain's ass, because that's what this primary was ultimately about, anyway (well, not McCain specifically, but whoever the Republican candidate was going to be.)


by pomology on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:41:29 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

Hillary and Bill Clinton will be aggressive campaigning for Barack Obama accross the country.


by nkpolitics on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:42:36 PM EST

ASDem (2.00 / 5)

You are a very graceful writer and a lovely human being.  I know that you are going to have a great career in politics or in whatever field you choose.

Please keep writing, keep blogging and keep reminding us of our ideals and our values.


by Radiowalla on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:43:36 PM EST

Re: ASDem (2.00 / 7)

If I told you I just graduated from law school, would you say the same? :)

Thanks for the kind words.  I kinda like this diary thing.

Now, off to Bar Review class.  No, I'm not even kidding.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:47:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: ASDem (none / 0)

My history teacher is one of the loveliest human beings I know, and he was apparently an excellent lawyer.

Lawyers might be a drain on society, but you can still be lovely, eloquent people, with amazing values, and you certainly seem to be just that.


by pomology on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:51:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I would indeed! (2.00 / 1)

You are following a very noble calling.

My daughter, a devoted Democratic activist who worked on campaigns and on the Hill, went to law school and then on to some very interesting clerkships and private opportunities.   Along with the rest of her family, she was a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton, but is preparing to jump on the Obama campaign.  I'm not jumping on with her, only promising my vote.

Best of luck to you!


by Radiowalla on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:21:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Bar Review... (2.00 / 1)

How well I remember the summer I took the NY & MA bar exams. I have never taken another test!

Your diary is much needed for both sides. I left KOS some time ago becasue of the level of hate that was encouraged to fester. Sadly, I hear that place hasn't changed.

I was not a rabid supporter of either candidate until the Clinton hate errupted in full force. Then I actually looked at her as an individual and at her life and what she'd done and how many hurdles she'd overcome and I came away impressed enough to start supporting her verbally and monitarily.

I certainly have known the race was over. I have always voted D and have no intention of changing now. I was not a big Kerry fan so actually liking the candidate is not required. Hopefully I will learn to like him much as I learned to support Hillary.

Good luck to you and enjoy studying for your last test.


berkshiretrueblue Commited to helping elect a Democrat as President "Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo" Ambroise Bierce
by berkshiretrueblue on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:32:01 PM EST
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Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

Great diary. I too am saddened to see Hillary conclude her campaign.

Thank you for your inspiring and wise counsel to supporters on both sides of this history making nomination contest.

On to the White House with President Obama!


by RickWn on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:43:39 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 5)

Thanks so much for this wonderful diary. I've been a little frustrated with some of the more partisan Obama and Hillary supporters here the last few days, but hopefully most of them will read this and reflect upon their actions.
Even though I've been a Hillary supporter since the 1990s, I'm also just as excited to be working to get the first African American president into office.
One Democratic voter in PA put it this way that describes my feelings during this primary:

It's like someone offered you a million dollars in $20 bills, and someone else offered you a million dollars in $5 bills. No matter who you go with, you still end up with a million dollars!


by skohayes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:43:46 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 2)

great diary.  

onward and upward-- down with mccain!


by bluedavid on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:44:21 PM EST

Great Post (2.00 / 2)

Thank you for setting the tone.  I'm tempted to say, "if she only had more staffers like you than she did" but I wasn't inside of the campaign.  I know that everyone worked their hearts out for HRC.  And in contrast to your post, you all do have A LOT to be proud about!


by activatedbybush on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:50:19 PM EST

Re: Great Post (2.00 / 9)

Ha, I promise you that the VAST majority of her staff (I was in Iowa, Connecticut, and Indiana) are spectacular people, wonderful organizers, and great Democrats.  Please, please, please, I beg you - do not confuse any quarrel you have with the campaign leadership, strategists, or even Hillary Clinton herself with the many good staff people, some of whom literally gave years of their life because they believed in her.  In many ways (and not to sound self-serving), we need them more than anyone, because they (along with their Obama counterparts) are the newly trained soldiers in the Democratic army.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:55:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

trust me, most of us (2.00 / 1)

realise the difference.  i'm sure that the commenter meant no offense.

i am always careful to distinguish between hillary's dedicated footsoldiers (such as yourself) and those who mismanaged her campaign.

i personally - and i'm sure most would agree with this - have the utmost respect for the work you do.  i have seen what it takes to do that job.  hell, we hosted an obama staffer in our home for a month.  so believe me, we know you gave your all and we have all the respect in the world for you folks.


Visit us at TexasKAOS, where we're taking Texas back!
by annatopia on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:23:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I have no doubt about it (none / 0)


by activatedbybush on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:44:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Great diary. (2.00 / 1)

Virtual Rec.


by xynz on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:52:30 PM EST

Where did you work for Clinton? (2.00 / 2)

Just an idle question.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:52:56 PM EST

Re: Where did you work for Clinton? (2.00 / 6)

Iowa, Connecticut, and Indiana.  Finished law school in the middle there.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Another idle question... (2.00 / 2)

Did you go to Yale Law? That would be my assumption on your having campaigned in Connecticut (as opposed to any other Super Tuesday state). Although, I know people aren't supposed to assume.


by pomology on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:00:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Another idle question... (2.00 / 2)

Indeed I did.  I won't lie and say I'm not disappointed that the Harvard Law guy won this time. :)


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:04:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Congratulations... (2.00 / 4)

What type of law are you thinking of practicing?  Ever thought of going to Washingon.  We're going to need to clean house in the Justice Department.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:15:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Outstanding, ASDem. Enthusiatically (2.00 / 7)

rec'd.:

It is okay to admit it, and it is more than okay to say that Barack Obama was not your first choice, but he is certainly now the best choice.

Well said.


Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.
by Rumarhazzit on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:55:49 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 3)

Wow.  How beautifully you express yourself, your words are a great read. Thank you, I think you are very wise.


by Roberta on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:58:51 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

Great diary! Thanks for making you voice heard. As an Obama supporter, I appreciate your suggestion, humbly welcome your support and hope you can begin to see in him what I and many others do.

What a great year to be a liberal!!!!


by abrxas on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:10:34 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 6)

I always saw something great in him, and I'm very proud to support him - especially as a black man not too many years his junior (I'm 28).  

Obama was right last night - we had a lot of very good choices this season.  In choosing Clinton, I was choosing what I saw as the better of many options (I honestly waffled between Obama, Richardson, Dodd and Clinton for the first half of 2007).  And for the most part, it was a very, very civil campaign.  But in a one-on-one competition, there is a natural tendency to develop a hatred for the opponent - it makes it easier to root for your own guy.  I think a lot of real life Clinton and Obama supporters never totally fell over that ledge, but especially now, there's no need to shove.  That's really the point I'm trying to make with the diary.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:25:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 2)

Saturday at the RBC meeting, I sat in front of a older guy and his wife who were both wearing tons of Hillary gear. We struck up a conversation, and he openly admitted that he didn't agree with all of Hillary's tactics, and that he was still fighting anyway because he still wasn't convinced Obama was able to win in November. He did say, though, that when it came time, he was probably going to vote for him. "and that's a long way for me, to admit that, because a month ago I was saying hell no."

we smiled and shook hands as he left--he got tired of waiting for the lunch break to end. I felt really good, but I wonder...if he had stayed, would he have been one of the people chanting, "Denver! Denver!" after the votes were taken? Still, I think the five months from now until November will give him full confidence that he can trust Obama. I hope that is true for all of us.


by 2501 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:58:42 PM EST
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Beautiful Diary (2.00 / 2)

Nice work.


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:34:08 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

Great Diary!  I'd love to chat off line as I'm pretty sure we have many mutual friends, especially if you are still in CT for the bar review.

I can be reached via the about page on CTLP.

Gabe
CT Local Politics: Our Primaries are Better Than Yours!


by TheKickingDonkey on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 08:52:30 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

Outstanding! Thank You


It's time to restore balance and fairness to our economy,... It's time to stop giving tax cuts to corporations that ship jobs overseas... - Barack Obama
by Lefty Coaster on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:08:31 PM EST

This is going to be a great summer (2.00 / 2)

and an even better autumn.

United we Stand, and March together to Victory.  Go Dems!!


by synchronicity on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:09:02 PM EST

Great diary, but.... (2.00 / 3)

you started it with "My friends".

Now don't go all mccain on us! OK?   ;)


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by kevin22262 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:25:30 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 2)

Awesome diary.

"Be proud of what you've done."

Thanks for sharing this.


by jdusek on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:26:36 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

Great diary.

ASDem, you sound like a great person, and I wish you the best in your career, as well as in all of our success in November.


by threegoal on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:28:02 PM EST

You rule. (2.00 / 1)

Great diary.  I'd kiss you if I could.


by McNasty on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 09:47:49 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

What a fabulous diary. You are a credit to Hillary and her campaign. Bravo, sir.


by mattw on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:09:20 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

Many of us can't rec up this diary or rate your comments.
We are being punished by the cruel admins who want to make us cry.  This was an awesome diary. Thank you.
I support our nominee President Barack Obama - and the Admins can't stand me, so I can't rec or rate. This is very mean if you were to ask me.
by TheFullBerry on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:21:56 PM EST

Hell (2.00 / 2)

Even after he got out of the race I was the crazy person on the corner waving a Dean sign on the day of my primary.  I worked hard to support him for a year and I wanted to support him to the end.  I get how badly it sucks when your candidate loses, and I get wanting to stick with them until the end.  I'll admit I wasn't happy with her speech last night, and  I haven't been happy with everything she said, but she's a helluva competitor, and is definitely someone I would want on my side.


No McCain in '08
by Renie on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:25:22 PM EST

Beautiful! (2.00 / 2)

You're a great writer, A S Dem. This is the best unity diary I've read. Thank you for this. It looks like many people would like to hear more from you.


by platy on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:31:35 PM EST

recommended, but (2.00 / 1)

you say that last night it would have been too much of a rush for Hillary to concede. I disagree, but I'm willing to concede you that point.

however, when it was clear--especially from the flood of superdelegates endorsing Obama yesterday--that Hillary's last sliver of hope was gone, I think that she showed a total lack of humility herself by going out there and running off a list of reasons why she still thought she was the better candidate for November. This was compounded by Terry McCaulliffe's introduction of her as "the next president of the united states".

seriously, Senator Clinton has fought hard, and she has earned a lot of respect, but she has not earned the right to keep taking punches after the last bell has rung and the other fighter has won. From everything we've heard today, that stuff last night is a big reason why all her supporters got together today to tell her to end it, soon.


by 2501 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 10:52:31 PM EST

Re: recommended, but (2.00 / 1)

What I saw last night concerned me, but at this point it really doesn't matter.  I think that these kinds of tactics really bothered me during the campaign because I didn't trust the party to step in if things went too far.  I was wrong, they did the right thing and it looks like she will too.  For the first time in a long time I think that we might survive this primary season without suffering serious wounds to the party.  If she really is going to drop out, I can find a way to respect the fact that she played hard and gave it absolutely everything she had.  It may not be the way that I choose to do things, but I can appreciate her tenacity.


No McCain in '08
by Renie on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:44:54 PM EST
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Re: recommended, but (2.00 / 5)

Yeah, point well taken.  I don't disagree that any shots (veiled as they were) taken at Obama last night were gratuitous and unnecessary.  I will say, however, that for her supporters' sake, she needed to give one last speech that was more about her and the campaign she has run (including one final recitation of the talking points!) then about Obama and the general election.  I think she has earned the right to celebrate her accomplishments and her supporters independently from a concession.  Last night was really the final opportunity to do that.  I expect that Saturday's speech will be the one that all Obama supporters have been waiting for.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:00:49 AM EST
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Sore losers and bad winners (2.00 / 1)

we don't need either attitude.


John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 11:49:56 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

Thank you for a great diary.  It may have been your first but what a way to start.

I say keep writing.


by Jenai on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:32:34 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

As a two time Edwards County Chair...I get you, and I understand. I still think Edwards was our best chance this November, but not our only chance.

We do have an opportunity, NOW!

Win the white house.

Win as many seats as possible in the congress.

Make big changes now, even if it mean we loose again in the short term. The long term needs and results are far too important.


by IowaMike on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:43:58 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

Which county?  I know all 99 far too well for a non-Iowan.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:53:34 AM EST
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Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

Delaware. I was the actual Dem County Chair 4 years ago.


by IowaMike on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:54:49 AM EST
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Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

You almost certainly know my ex-girlfriend who was the Delaware Kerry organizer in '03-'04!  I was a Polk field organizer for Kerry myself.  2 cycles of Iowa caucus experience.  You'll never hear this Clinton supporter talk badly of caucuses - I understand their flaws, but that can be remedied I think without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:05:58 AM EST
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Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

Thank you! We take our role VERY SERIOUSLY. And I do believe I remember her.

BTW, consider cross posting this at Kos. I would like to see these two sites working together again.


by IowaMike on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:09:07 AM EST
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Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 2)

To be honest, it's going to take a couple weeks/months for me even to go back there to read anything.  That place has been poison for our party during this process.  (Though not the worst on the web - that distinction goes to "Mr. Sociopath" himself Andrew Sullivan.)

Plus, I don't even have an account.  This really is my first foray into blogging.


Polawtics. Where awareness of the internet happens.
by ASDem on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:14:39 AM EST
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Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

I think a lot of people at DKos have felt the same way about this site.  I'm an Obama supporter, but I kept coming here to defend my candidate and often left feeling sickened by the level of hatred being thrown at him.  I appreciate the graciousness of your diary; and I encourage you to head on over to DKos soon.  We've all engaged in some passionate, angry debate over the past few months.  But in the end, we are all Democrats.


by writerswrite on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:22:55 AM EST
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Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

I hope that Hillary just suspends her campaign, like John Edwards did earlier. In this way, she still retains her delegates. And influence.


Elvis has left the building.
by True Blue Dem on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 01:38:55 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

Thank you for you thoughts, so honestly shared.

And welcome to the Obama campaign!  I'm a white middle-aged woman.  I originally voted for Hillary, but had buyer's remorse, and then worked many hours a week for Obama, through to the end of the primary race.  

I pray that Barack Obama is our next president, and if we all work together, he will be.


"It's time to pass the baton to the next generation." Ken Jacobson, WA state senator.
by tibbs on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 02:20:27 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

A noble diary. Rec'ed.


by french imp on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 08:33:41 AM EST

Wow. (none / 0)

You've touched me with the mature reasoning and graciousness in your diary. Thank you for this.


by vbdietz on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 08:57:15 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

I am sure your back is getting a bit bruised from all the pats. So I hope you can handle another one :)

Great diary, great writing and rec'd.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:16:02 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

This is a terrific diary -- humble and gracious.  I've supported Obama since right before Super Tuesday, but I was feeling something akin to what Hillary's supporters are feeling now at that time.  I supported John Edwards and truly believed that he was the best candidate for our party.  For a few days after he suspended his campaign, I was truly despondent.  Then I looked at the remaining candidates, and chose Obama.  But it wasn't an easy decision at that point.

I would rec and tip you if I could, but since I can't just now that I personally vow to do everything I can to unite the Party, to honor Hillary Clinton's history-making run for the presidency, and to help elect Obama and as many down-ticket Dems as possible.  We're taking our country back!


by writerswrite on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:19:07 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

I'll admit, if you're a Clinton supporter, going over to DKos is not for the faint of heart.  

Just give it some time.  There are some very hard feelings among Obama supporters, too, and they need some time to vent and get used to the fact that the primary is over and that Obama is the nominee.  

In the name of unity, I'd encourage people to go over there eventually, when it's safe.  And it will be, especially after Saturday and Hillary's enthusiastic endorsement of Obama.  


by ProfessorReo on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:27:47 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (2.00 / 1)

I doubt that I will ever do that. I congratulate Obama on his victory and hope he wins in the fall. I am sure he'll be better than McCain. But I can't see myself going back to KOS. It's not just Hillary, but part of a larger pattern. If you aren't with the candidate of choice of the majority, there's little tolerenace for your views.


by Mayor McCheese on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:52:00 AM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

I think in some ways it is going to be easier on the Dems in the GE then the Primary, even though the stakes are higher.

there will be a lot less infighting, a lot less frustration over playing-nice, or not... and frankly the stark contrast on policy issues may mean the candidates focus less on identity polices then they had to in the primary.

I know not to get complacent, but honestly I like our chances in the fall. I actually expected us to be at this point of reconciliation a few weeks from now. Of course not all of Clinton supporters are ready to set aside their passions just yet, and I recognize and honor that, but I didn't expect as many to do so already as they have done.

At this rate, come the convention we are going to be a solid wall of force pushing back the Republicans at every step.

As of right now the Dems are expected to pick up about 5-6 Senate seats and 10-12 house seats, wedding the passions and motivations that have been sparked this primary I can see that going higher. There are so many possibilities, for new states to be picked up (possibly TX!), for seats to be won, and held, so much is in play it can be a bit dizzying.

So cheers to all of you.


by notedgeways on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 12:03:35 PM EST

Re: Humility in Victory and Defeat (none / 0)

It's been a long journey....I mean from 1968 to 2008.  The Democrats are going to win this year, and an African-American progressive will be president.

A short word and photo essay, which picks up on the theme of unity, offered below.  MLK's words are especially important here.

1968-2008 Forty Years
http://msa4.wordpress.com/


Mitchell Aboulafia
by Mitchell A on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 05:01:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Teddy Roosevelt? (none / 0)

Interesting choice for a quote.


by souvarine on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 04:41:10 PM EST

Re: Teddy Roosevelt? (none / 0)

read what the Progressive Party that Teddy made stood for:

The platform called for women's suffrage, recall of judicial decisions, easier amendment of the U.S. Constitution, social welfare legislation for women and children, workers' compensation, limited injunctions in strikes, farm relief, revision of banking to assure an elastic currency, required health insurance in industry,

heha. your gotcha moment is poo.


by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 06:22:34 PM EST
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Re: Teddy Roosevelt? (none / 0)

Didn't mean to be a gotcha. Just interesting that the diarist would quote the most successful third party candidate.


by souvarine on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 07:45:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Teddy Roosevelt? (none / 0)

oh I thought you were trying to say something about how TR broke off from his party.


by alyssa chaos on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 08:42:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

More like Outrage at Theft (none / 0)

And hearbreak at what would have been for this nation.


by layer cake on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 07:33:45 PM EST

I'm sure she'll give (none / 0)

a concession speech as good or better than Mitt Romney's at CPAC. While I of course disagree and laugh at everything he said, he sucked it up, and got lockstep behind McCain, while keeping his dignity and not throwing his values away. watch the vid, I think Hillary can top this AND sound genuine, but this is a good role model for her


by Lakrosse on Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 08:03:45 PM EST


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