Mission Accomplished: Victory over the DLC

The DLC is a powerful and well-financed mouthpiece within the Democratic party.  

A corporate Trojan Horse or "The Republican Wing of the Democratic Party".

It argues that the Democratic Party should shift away from traditionally populist positions.

With Howard Dean and Barack Obama, the DLC days are numbered.

The centrist Democratic Leadership Council holds its national meeting in Chicago -- just a block away from Sen. Barack Obama's campaign headquarters. However, Obama will not attend.

Even though the Illinois senator has moved to the center on so many issues in recent weeks, he's not willing to incur the wrath of liberal Democrats by speaking at the convention of the group described by many as "Republican-lite."

With none of the Democratic presidential candidates in attendance at last year's meeting either, it's fair to say the DLC has officially lost it's mojo.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/politicalins ider/2008/06/the-slow-death-of-the-dlc.h tml



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Re: Mission Accomplished: Victory over the DLC (2.00 / 1)

This is stupid.

The DLC backed Obama over Hillary during the primaries. Obama is placing several high level DLC advisers in key positions within his campaign, most notably Jason Furnam. And the DLC was effusive in their praise for Obama's support of the FISA "compromise" and the Heller decision.

The DLC is far from dead.


by rayj on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:07:57 AM EST

Re: Mission Accomplished: Victory over the DLC (2.00 / 1)

Huh?

Your talking about the 2008 primaries right?

Please tell me in one fashion, in ANY fashion the DLC got anywhere close to backing Obama during the primary?


by DemsLandslide2008 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:20:31 PM EST
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I think you underestimate the DLC. (none / 0)

They are smart enough to see that the road to victory is keeping as much distance between us (Democrats) and them (Republicans).  Offering a very clear choice of policies and ideology wins elections these days since the Republicans had all the power and showed they can't govern worth a damn.


No Way, No How, No McCain!
by GFORD on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:23:18 AM EST

Re: I think you underestimate the DLC. (none / 0)

that works in 2008 but won't work in 2012.


by dtaylor2 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:44:18 PM EST
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I we Democrats do our job (none / 0)

over the next 4 years, we won't have to worry about it.


No Way, No How, No McCain!
by GFORD on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 01:08:49 PM EST
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Re: I we Democrats do our job (none / 0)

best historical analogy on many levels is carter.

Don't think Carter as a brand in 1980 helped much

Obama as a brand won't last to 2012.  He just doesn't have the stored trust and goodwill that the Clintons do and the next 4 years are not going to be pretty no matter who is president.


by dtaylor2 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 01:22:21 PM EST
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Re: I think you underestimate the DLC. (none / 0)

You admit that the world may change so much over the course of four years that the political landscape might have to adjust?
Good. Now could you apply that to 2008 vs. 2004?
by spirowasright on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 02:08:29 PM EST
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Re: Mission Accomplished: Victory over the DLC (none / 0)


The DLC has been nothing but a shell since 2002.  Beating a dead horse is about the size of it.
by killjoy on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:41:45 AM EST

Re: Mission Accomplished: Victory over the DLC (none / 0)

Yet their candidate got more then 50% of the party vote.

You beat us with indy and GOP votes.


by dtaylor2 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:45:02 PM EST
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Ah yes ..... (2.00 / 3)

more of the Captain of the Titanic thinking: "if they are not the specific kind of Democrat we want, throw 'em overboard, we don't need 'em!".

Exactly the kind of mindset that made our primary the most divisive in our party's history, and a point of mockery for the teeve talking heads still.

Not helpful.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:42:11 AM EST

Most divisive in history? (none / 0)

Good lord.  Is this your first election?


by JJE on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:52:13 PM EST
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Re: Most divisive in history? (none / 0)

No, I've been voting since 1972.

It simply has been the most divisive of our party.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 02:10:44 PM EST
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Closest (none / 0)

but certainly not more divisive than 1968.


by JJE on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 02:48:45 PM EST
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ROFL (2.00 / 4)

I can not believe that
  1.  You think Obama is not DLC  and
  2.  You STILL think the DLC is some sort of powerful boogeyman.

by Teacher1956 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 11:43:41 AM EST

Re: ROFL (none / 0)

It is, it is a symbol of weakness in our party.

Do the Republicans have a similar club?


by DemsLandslide2008 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:23:19 PM EST
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Kos called Lieberman an asshole at the meeting (none / 0)

LOL

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6 /30/01735/0857/156/543957


Let's elect a Dem President!
by SpanishFly on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:06:26 PM EST

frankly I could care less what Kos thinks (1.50 / 4)

because he's nothing but another Clinton-hated ultra radical demagogue.


by Lakrosse on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:15:34 PM EST
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Re: frankly I could care less what Kos thinks (none / 0)

Well I guess I will TR you for getting off topic.

He called Lieberman an ashhole, which is actually pretty respectful compared to what most Americans would say.

He said nothing about Hillary or Bill.


by DemsLandslide2008 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:24:18 PM EST
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Re: frankly I could care less what Kos thinks (none / 0)

DKos is a powerful force for progressive politics.  You may be upset about his choice of primary candidate but doing so, when he did, chasing Alegre over here with her tail between he legs, as it turns out, was a very wise decision.

Not only did he pick the winner...

Not only did he do so based on principle...

But he avoided the troll-cluster this site has turned into since.  


Let's elect a Dem President!
by SpanishFly on Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 05:04:35 PM EST
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If "victory" is so accomplished, (none / 0)

why is Obama taking DLC positions on FISA, the death penalty, and guns? He just wants to keep all the radicals on Daily Kos happy. I wonder how happy he keeps them when he is President.


by Lakrosse on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:16:49 PM EST

Re: If "victory" is so accomplished, (none / 0)

I didn't know the DLC had "positions" anymore.

The last thing I heard Ford said their agenda was to get Obama and all downticket races elected this year.

You tell me when they start flexing their "positions" on Obama or the DNC?


by DemsLandslide2008 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:26:19 PM EST
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Evan Bayh? (none / 0)

Sam Nunn?
Chuck Hagel?
No DLC influence if they're chosen, right?
John McCain says he would stay in Iraq for 100 years? That's crazy talk!
by kosnomore on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:43:12 PM EST

Re: Evan Bayh? (none / 0)

Chuck Hagel is a proud Republican.

Our point is proven.

Long Live the DLC and may they guarantee a us a Congress that promises to keep buckling to Republicans in 2009 with a Dem POTUS and majority in both houses.

Strong progressives? Who needs them?

Feingold?!??  What a leeeeeeeebral!


by DemsLandslide2008 on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 12:54:25 PM EST
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