MyDD :: Congratulations, Sen Obama

Congratulations, Sen Obama

by SevenStrings, Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:13:18 PM EST

Today, you have broken quite a few barriers in becoming the first African American to be the nominee of a major party for President of the United States.

In the coming few weeks and months, you will have the opportunity to make your case against Sen. John McCain, and to unify your party behind you. I expect that many questions will be asked, and answered during that process.

But tonite is not a time for asking questions. Tonite is a time for offering congratulations !!

And yes, tonite is a time for wishing you well !!

http://whathojeeves.blogspot.com

Update [2008-6-3 17:22:34 by SevenStrings]:: I am a Clinton supporter, for those that failed to notice =)

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Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 11)

Very classy, SevenStrings. Rec'd.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:22:15 PM EST

Re: Too bad only the delegates want him (2.00 / 2)

Heh. You musta got a "D" in troll training. That was weak.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:38:47 PM EST
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Re: Too bad only the delegates want him (none / 0)

Only the majority of delegates.
And 32 states, plus DC.
And more than 17 million voters.

But aside from that, no, he's not that popular.

by Malacandra on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:56:11 PM EST
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I already recced (2.00 / 8)

but you have class, I am looking forwards to your next global issues (for lack of a better term) piece.

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:25:19 PM EST

Re: I already recced (2.00 / 12)

Thank you. And you aint so bad yourself, Doc

My next piece is on a topic of great concern to me, but will probably bore everyone else ...

the presence of BPA (bisphenol A) in baby bottles, and how babies are dying as a result. Or rather, how Mommies are being fearmongered as a result of it.

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:28:15 PM EST
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Great diary, SS. (2.00 / 8)

I know how hard it is, because I went through it with Edwards. You were a great advocate for your candidate.

by TomP on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:31:57 PM EST
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Re: Great diary, SS. (2.00 / 6)

Oh, I dont think it is THAT hard =)

For me, Gore v Bush was hard. 1994 was hard. 1984 was hard (this was elections in India). 2002 was hard.

2008 is not hard !!

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:34:10 PM EST
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Very nice topic (2.00 / 4)

I'm looking forwards to it already.

Bisphenol A does have nasty side effects but dose/exposure is important to consider.

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:35:45 PM EST
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Can you tell me more... (2.00 / 4)

I am unable to get any concrete informationo n this.

They say it mimics estrogen, and can kill cells. But I have not seen any conclusive evidence on that (except for lab tests done on a petri dish at veryy high doses)

Do you know of a good place to get that information.

I was approaching it from the other side ~ how much BPA must be present in the bottle, and at what rate can it leach into the baby etc.

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:38:53 PM EST
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Yeah it is only in the Ames style test (2.00 / 4)

that it shows toxicity, and I am fairly certain that it is heat exposure of the bottle that causes it to leak out.

If you have access to PubMed/Ovid that is a very good place to do research, otherwise Google Scholar isn't bad (you don't want to use regular google as there will be a lot of crap floating around about this). If you are at all close to academia you will have access to Pubmed/Ovid.

Harder for you to access likely would be a Journal for Pediatrics (where this would likely be in), Jeter is a doc and would likely know better for sources than myself, SpacemanSpiff is in between med school and residency so he would be a good source to ask for better advise too.

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:09:39 PM EST
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Re: Yeah it is only in the Ames style test (2.00 / 3)

I do have access to all journals, and all databases (one of my old schools has been very generous to me=). And I also have access to my wife, who is a genius in digging out informatin like that (she is trained to do that =).

But, I have not found any credible source of information that says that BPA is a cause for concern. Everyone says that it could be a cause for concern, but..it appears to me at least.. noone has actually gone back and checked!

And yes, heat exposure is the only way for the BPA to leach out. I understand that part very well (I have studied similar problems), and the relationship between leaching rates and temperature is not a simple one. And so, I can safely say that leaching of BPA from the bottle is not a concern ~ provided you dont pour boiling hot water into it.

But then, where is all the BPA coming from. Younger children tend to have more BPA than older adults.

So, very many questions, and not enough answers...

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:17:00 PM EST
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Indeed (2.00 / 3)

You sound like you have a firm grasp of this issue.

Here are some more journals to look into since you have access to them:

Journal of Pediatric Endocrinology.
Endocrine (related ones as well).
Maybe some Oncology ones (since the main threat is that prolonged low doses increase the chances of cancer in rats).

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:23:55 PM EST
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It doesn't pay to freak out about it. (none / 0)

Heat does seem to be the thing that causes it to leach out of plastic, so our household has stopped using plastic dishes in the microwave just to be on the safe side... but otherwise I don't think your typical adult needs to worry about their exposure. It does leak slowly over time, so bottled water that has sat around a long time might also be a source, but I certainly wouldn't worry about leftovers you keep in a plastic container in the fridge for a few days.

I don't know if it is all hype or not. We've made a few simple changes in our life just to feel better about it, but we haven't freaked out and thrown a way our tupperware.

by protothad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:08:35 PM EST
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Re: It doesn't pay to freak out about it. (2.00 / 1)

The plastic dishes you typically use in a microwave do not contain any BPA (they do have other stuff though, and that may be just as nasty).

Bottled water sitting at room temperature, or even in the Sun will not collect any BPA... even after 10 years.

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:16:19 PM EST
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Re: I already recced (2.00 / 4)

It won't bore me and am looking forward to your next diary.

John McCain, supports 100 year of war, but not education

by desertlover on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:58:37 PM EST
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You must have a young child at home (2.00 / 3)

or on the way =)

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:00:35 PM EST
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Re: You must have a young child at home (2.00 / 1)

a 4.5 year old and an 18 month old. :)

John McCain, supports 100 year of war, but not education

by desertlover on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:59:06 PM EST
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Re: You must have a young child at home (2.00 / 1)

Then you are past the bottle stage. Good for you =)

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:01:28 PM EST
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Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 18)

yeah he deserves to be congratulated , he ran a solid campaign .

He was in it to win it.

I have very little to complain about with the way he ran his campaign .

If he continues to articulate common sense position on Iraq and Iran , he would get my vote .( with or without Clinton ).

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:25:34 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 7)

Mojoed!

Seriously, I had to rub my eyes but if I read that right I take back our exchange earlier.

Either you didn't mean it, or whatever.

Im a democrat and unlike Republicans we do give the benefit of the doubt for better or worse.

And god Lori, you just gave me the "Obama Tingles" with this one line:

"If he continues to articulate common sense position on Iraq and Iran "

That is to imply that you like what you hear and want it to go further.

Thats AWESOME, you can never have a President that is too Logical and correct on Foreign policy.

I know I posted this ten times today, but once more to keep in this discussion:

http://www.truepat.org/

by CrushTheGOP2008 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:57:56 PM EST
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We've had... (2.00 / 10)

..our differences, but I will tell you that you have a tremendous asset to this community and I look forward to many more conversations with you...Thank you...

I can see Lake Erie from where I live, so can I please run the Navy?

by hootie4170 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:31:54 PM EST

Re: We've had... (2.00 / 4)

"...you have been..."

sorry for the typo.

I can see Lake Erie from where I live, so can I please run the Navy?

by hootie4170 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:32:27 PM EST
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Re: We've had... (2.00 / 5)

Thank you !!

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:34:32 PM EST
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Classy move seven. (2.00 / 5)

Rec'd.

John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.

by Travis Stark on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:38:26 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 1)

You should be congratulating Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Ariana Huffington, Jack Cafferty, Teddy Kennedy, and Oprah.

by handsomegent on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:44:21 PM EST

Thank you. (2.00 / 6)

We will all pull together for the good of the country.

by barnowl on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:47:38 PM EST

Seven Strings (2.00 / 6)

Thanks for your advocacy on behalf of your candidate, and your classiness.

Rec'd.

What is The October Protocol?

by Koan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:53:07 PM EST

Congrats to Senator Clinton, too (2.00 / 6)

from an Obama supporter.

She did run one hell of a campaign, especially after she retooled in March. There's no doubt, too, that she won a lot of contests and a lot of votes.

In my entire lifetime, I've seen the nominating go in just one direction after the voting starts... Dean imploded immediately. For all of Bill's Comeback kid narrative - let's face it, he basically had a poor showing in a contest nobody contested (due to Harkin) then came back to remain relevant in the 2nd... and the rest was history.

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, did something quite extraordinary by not just staying in the race, but winning races well towards the end.

It was an amazing performance.

I'm ready to remember the days of late 2007 - when I was giddy at the embarrassment of riches we all thought we had heading into the primary season. As late as December of 2007 - there were legitimately five candidates I considered backing.

We're fortunate to have a lot of very good and very strong leaders in our party.

It's time to put an end to the horrors of the modern GOP - and this fall, I have no doubt that we'll all do it, together.

by zonk on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:53:51 PM EST

Re: Congrats to Senator Clinton, too (2.00 / 4)

That is funny.

You and I have travelled very different paths then. In late 2007, I did not like any of the 3 viable candidates. I did not feel like we had an abandonment of riches =)

I moved to support Sen. Clinton when she stopped being the anointed one, and became a progressive. She never moved far enough on the one issue I care for (Darfur), but...

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:57:25 PM EST
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Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 6)

Thank you.

McCainuire, The Wrath Of Not Enough Naps.

by catilinus on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:55:36 PM EST

Back at 'ya (2.00 / 5)

Rec'd.

After all is said and done, this primary season will be regarded as having been good for the party. I would not have admitted such a month or so ago, and it may take a month or so before Sen. Clinton's supports feel likewise.

Let it begin.

Often wrong; seldom in doubt.

by Goober Pea on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:01:03 PM EST

Thank you (2.00 / 5)

It brings tears to my eyes. I cannot believe this is happening I'm still thinking that this is all a dream.

by sweet potato pie on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:01:56 PM EST

You may... (2.00 / 5)

want to change your signature line.

I am sure Sen. Obama does lie and cheat on occassion... as we all do. But noone is calling Sen. Obama a liar or a cheater for the way that he won !!

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:03:54 PM EST
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Re: You may... (2.00 / 4)

God, the layers of negativity are losing their value.

I know he will remove the line, let him dry his eyes.

I think alot of people on BOTH sides are welling up, whats cool is alot of us are for the SAME reason.

We're gonna do it, do you guys think for ONE second that the repub blogs had conversations like these the day Romney conceded?
Of course not, its funny how WE'RE called the fracticious party.

http://www.truepat.org/

by CrushTheGOP2008 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:16:29 PM EST
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Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 4)

Very classy, thank you.

by Lawyerish on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:03:34 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 4)

Congrats to our nominee!

To making history!

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:04:59 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 4)

You and your candidate fought a great campaign, and the Democratic party is stronger for it. Thanks for always being reasonable and earnest in your support for Clinton.

And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.

by thatpurplestuff on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:11:22 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 2)

Very nice!

I know it's tough but this is the same party. We just have two great people running. McCain is the real enemy!

Rec'ed!!!

Obama 08!

by comingawakening on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:14:18 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 2)

::virtual rec::

The primaries are over!
Focus on McCain

by really not a troll on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:17:08 PM EST

Thank you. (2.00 / 3)

Very classy. Rec'd

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changiness

by lizardbox on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:22:08 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 2)

Let's all..I
mean all..

sing the chorus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXcZz5n5H I0

"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"

by nogo postal on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:26:17 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 4)

Lets get together and fight the REAL enemy now. JOHN MCCAIN

by heyhellowhatsnew on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:28:45 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 5)

Standing ovation from me for Clinton and her supporters.

She has made history too. We're all in this together. And John McCain will injure ALL of our causes and beliefs. He is the enemy. Both Clinton and Obama are fine folks.

by heyhellowhatsnew on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:32:15 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 3)

Credit for the CORRECT framing.

John McCain is America's enemy.

GWB is a tyrant and has made our country poorer and less safe and likely not the infallible superpower of the world.

McCain is an eager sequel to GWB.

They are the enemies of Freedom, Truth, Life and Love.

http://www.truepat.org/

by CrushTheGOP2008 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:44:00 PM EST
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Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 4)

Seven Strings:
Guitar player?

Thanks for this classy diary.

We have nothing to fear but fear itself. And clowns.

by haremoor on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:53:57 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 1)

Thank you

And yes... I did use to play the guitar...when I was a young man. The guitar that we use has 6 strings... and the guitar that God plays has 13 strings.

So, we are missing SevenStrings =)

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:56:06 PM EST
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Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 4)

You're a Clinton supporter?

I have a confession to make that might surprise you, seven. I'm an Obama supporter.

Seriously though, this diary means a lot from you, I think. Keep pushing Hillary's policies whoever the nominee is.

John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country

by minnesotaryan on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:56:04 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 4)

magnanimous...that would make a pretty cool pokimon name.

off topic I know but I feel kinda silly tonight.

by DawnG on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:57:10 PM EST

Magnanimity is a great tongue-twister (2.00 / 2)

for drinking games.

Five times fast, with a series of beers (or worse) and it gets surprisingly hard...

Toy Boat and Unique New York are also pretty tough.

And if you can do all those by midnight, there is always Aluminum Linoleum to put the starch back into your lips...

-chris

Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging

by chrisblask on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:33:50 PM EST
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Phantom Recced, 7Strings! (2.00 / 3)

Gracious and well said.

I want to add my piece to this. I have enjoyed getting to know so many of you here, and to have folks like linfar show me that even the strongest disagreement does not an enemy make.

MyDD has become my favorite place to be. As I've said, it is not in my nature to talk only to those with whom I agree on every thing, and MyDD has been a great place to have my conceptions tested.

I'm not going to leave after tonight, but as I've said before I plan to spend more time seeing how I can open a broader conversation outside of Party Lines once the primaries are decided. It will not surprise me if I very soon look back to the warm sunny days of debating with FleaFlicker here, once the hardcore GOP folks get their claws on me... ;~)

Congratulations to everyone for involving yourselves in the American process. As I've explained (often fruitlessly) to my Canadian friends: "America may be a bit messy, but it's the best game on earth!"

-cheers!

-chris

Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging

by chrisblask on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:23:44 PM EST

YES! (2.00 / 3)

I feel like this is the part of the movie where the by-the-book cop and the renegade detective have finally come together, realized they're on the same team, spent a few minutes arming themselves in the teeth and have just kicked in the bad guy's door- yelling

MCCCCAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.

by ihaveseenenough on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:25:50 PM EST

Know who's NOT celebrating today? (2.00 / 2)

John McCain.
He is just now waking to his worst nightmare: Clinton and Obama (and their supporters) joining forces.
We are sooooo gonna kick his ass in November!

by Kysen on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:36:42 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 2)

Oh...and, SevenStrings....thank you for the classy diary....you do MYDD (and Clinton!) proud. ;)
Good on ya.

by Kysen on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:37:42 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 1)

Classy.

I've been pleasantly surprised how quickly many of the Clinton supporters here have accepted and even embraced Obama as the nominee. Had the situation been reversed, I'm not sure I could have done it so soon.

by username on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:38:03 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (none / 0)

Do not misunderstand my post...it is not an embrace !!

If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi

by SevenStrings on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:54:39 PM EST
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Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (none / 0)

Fair enough. The level of enthusiasm varies, and the Obama Borg will take what we can get... ;)

by username on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:00:43 PM EST
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Thanks Sevenstrings (none / 0)

Congrats on your win in SD

by netgui68 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:59:13 PM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (2.00 / 1)

i'll say it. He ran a great campaign, undercut the greatest Democratic political force in recent history, and while I may have disagreed with his tactics of playing the race card in a very Chicago-esque styled manner and smearing the Clintons thru surrogates and preachers, I sadly accept his nomination. because I am an ultra partisan, he will have my almost unwavering support, and I will videotape my voting for him in November to prove it. I say we all do that, it would make for good YouTube material

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:51:25 AM EST

Re: Congratulations, Sen Obama (none / 0)

Wow - that was unexpected. Welcome aboard, I hope you enjoy the ride.

by interestedbystander on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 07:00:31 AM EST
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