Jimmy Carter For Obama

by Todd Beeton, Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:16:15 PM EST

No shocker here, of course, but Jimmy Carter has confirmed he's on board with Obama and has been for a while:

Former President Carter says he'll endorse Democrat Barack Obama after the polls close on the final primaries.

Carter told The Associated Press on Tuesday: "The fact is the Obama people already know they have my vote when the polls close tonight." Carter spoke to the AP after addressing the Georgia World Congress Center.

Carter, a superdelegate, has remained officially neutral in the race but has offered high praise to Obama. Carter has noted that his children, grandchildren and their spouses back the Illinois senator.

Update [2008-6-3 15:37:49 by Todd Beeton]:I assume once Carter makes it official after the close of the polls tonight, he'll be counted in Obama's official delegate tally. As of now, the Obama official count is actually 30.5 to go to clinch the nomination. This number is a result of the 11 offical superdelegate endorsements announced for Obama today (8.5 superdelegate votes). DemConWatch has the details.

Update [2008-6-3 15:37:49 by Todd Beeton]:The Calitics kids tell me Jerry McCnerney just endorsed Obama, so epect him to be added to Obama's tally as well.

Update [2008-6-3 15:43:27 by Josh Orton]: And from a presser today, Harry Reid looks like he's ready to endorse...someone...and lead his caucus later this week:

QUESTION: What about for yourself, Senator? Are you prepared to endorse as early as tomorrow if the race is over tonight?

REID: I will set an example for the rest of the Senate like I try to do with everything. And something will be done this week by I think most or all delegates. They're about 18 in the Senate -- that's how many are left -- super-delegates.




Tags: 2008 presidential election, democratic nomination, barack obama, jimmy carter (all tags)

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Please don't Slander Him (2.00 / 1)

Carter is a decent man. Show some respect.


by parahammer on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:17:11 PM EST

Re: Please don't Slander Him (2.00 / 1)

Thank you!  And you're right, he's a decent man.  When my wife and I got married in 2004, I sent a wedding invitation to him on a lark.  The reply was sent back promptly, signaling his regrets.  When we returned form our honeymoon, there was a congratulatory letter, signed by President Carter waiting in the mail.  When my daughter was born in 2006, I sent a birth announcement.  Soon after, we received a lovely note, again signed by President Carter.  He's a wonderful man and worthy of our respect.  (I really came to appreciate him when I worked a Habitat for Humanity project in Chicago.  We spent some time in a local church during our time there.  The basement of the church had many pictures of President Carter working on earlier Habitat projects...  He was much loved in the community.)


by reconad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:24:50 PM EST
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Re: Carter is the only dem pres (none / 0)

Go fuck yourself.  Really.  I've written a non-political anecdote about a president that I admire and you feel like taking a shit on it.  Fuck you.


by reconad on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:33:39 PM EST
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I'm curious (2.00 / 1)

and not being confrontational, but, how do you think Carter is being slandered?  He's pretty much made it clear for weeks that he was going to support Obama.


by gchaucer2 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:30:19 PM EST
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Re: I'm curious (none / 0)

He is not being slandered in this diary, yet.


by parahammer on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:31:46 PM EST
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Finally got it (none / 0)

I translated the comment as directed at the diarist rather than the oncoming comments.


by gchaucer2 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:33:45 PM EST
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Not Directed at Diarist (none / 0)

I'm sorry if it was construed that way.


by parahammer on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:38:07 PM EST
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Hmm, (none / 0)

I'm guessing your comment wasn't aimed at the diarist -- if so, sorry for my comment.


by gchaucer2 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:32:32 PM EST
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Re: Please don't Slander Him (2.00 / 1)

why would anyone slam him?

I have yet to slam any of my senators, who support Obama.  I have yet to slam any SD.


by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:30:35 PM EST
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I know, but remember how Teddy got slammed (none / 0)

the hits on Teddy were very personal, even his kids, and his brothers, when he endorsed Obama.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:32:04 PM EST
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Re: I know, but remember how Teddy got slammed (none / 0)

I never said anything against Ted Kennedy's family.
Ted Kennedy ran against an incumbent Democrat and even when he didn't win the primaries, went against Carter at the Convention.

That little stunt helped Reagan and the Republicans for over 28 years.

Jimmy Carter is still trying to be relevant, that's all.
It is unlikely that Carter would bring any NEW voters to Obama's harem.


by stefystef on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:45:09 PM EST
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Re: I know, but remember how Teddy got slammed (none / 0)

well, since Teddy is my senator, I have no reason to slam him.


by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:56:50 PM EST
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What has long been written in pencil... (2.00 / 1)

...is now written in ink.

Welcome aboard, Mr. President.


by turnover on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:17:50 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (2.00 / 1)

Right now, the magic numbers are
Obama   30.5
Clinton 200

Carter is not in that count.
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:18:13 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (2.00 / 1)

There are lots of people that aren't yet in that count.  There's a great diary that has a list of all the supers that will likely announce right after polls close over at dKos (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6 /3/74632/28923/895/527963).  

Here's the rundown (links are in the original article):

Sen. Ken Salazar (CO) and Gov. Bill Ritter (CO) are set to endorse Obama today but have not yet made it formal.

Ralph Dawson (NY) will endorse Obama later today according to James Clyburn.

Margaret Campbell (MT) endorsed Obama awhile back but had to retract it because of party rules that prevent its members from endorsing a candidate during a contested primary.  She is expected to officially endorse when polls close tonight.

Gov. Brian Schweitzer (MT), Sen. Max Baucus (MT) and Sen. Jon Tester (MT) are set to endorse Obama today when the polls close in their state.

Debra Kozikowski (MA) who had supported John Edwards and has been firmly uncommitted since he left the race is expected to endorse Obama later today.

Sen. Herb Kohl (WI) is expected to endorse Obama later today.

Dennis McDonald (MT) is expected to endorse Obama at 10pm.

Tom Harkin (IA) is expected to Endorse Obama today.

St. Paul Mayor Chris Coleman (whio is not a superdelegate) has "pre-endorsed" Obama.  This would be a switch from his previous support of Clinton.  He wants to give Clinton her chance to concede tonight before officially endorsing Obama.

Add Carter on there, too.  We're about six public announcements away from ending this thing.


UNITY!
by The Great Gatsby on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:20:40 PM EST
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Where is Big Al ? n/t (none / 0)


by parahammer on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:19:32 PM EST

Re: Where is Big Al ? n/t (none / 0)

He's been the #1 guy out there... but I think if he was endorsing tonight we'd have heard about it.


McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:22:55 PM EST
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Re: Where is Big Al ? n/t (none / 0)

I think he'll be at a Democratic fundraiser later this week that Obama and Clinton are both attending. I read about that a few days ago; I think it's in NY. That would be a great time for some endorsing.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:26:01 PM EST
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Here I am (none / 0)

I'm still undecided.

Like a modern day Hamlett:  "To Hill or Not to Hill, that is the question?"


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:26:06 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (2.00 / 1)

Obama has picked up something like 15 superdelegates since this morning.  At least 5 SDs from MT have said that they will endosre the winner of their state tonight once it is known, and will almost certainly be Obama.

The floodgates have opened up.  I expect him to be within 20 by the time polls close tonight.

He may get 30 superdelegates today alone.

He's gonna hit 2,118 tonight, I have little doubt.


by Obamaphile on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:22:04 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (2.00 / 1)

I didn't live in the US when Carter was in though having read around a bit does it surprise you that Carter was actually right?

I mean 30 years later and we could have been off of middle eastern oil and the pangs would have already been a memory.  Reagan dismantled everything Carter did...

Sigh.


by Phidget on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:22:33 PM EST

Jimmy's got what America needs right here (none / 0)

http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/ i_got_what_america_needs_right

The Onion did a hell of a funny column on it.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:24:57 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy's got what America needs right here (none / 0)

NSFW...


John McCain isn't evil. He's just wrong about a lot of things. Vote Obama!
by proseandpromise on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:04:01 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (2.00 / 1)

New SUSA poll: Obama with 2 point edge in MO.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollRepo rt.aspx?g=5d8a1dbb-2be3-4e8e-a7dc-76a5ea add6a9

Update the MyDD electoral map please.  


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:22:47 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

Wait til the bounce he gets in the next couple of days, that map will be looking good.


by parahammer on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:24:35 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

I suspect the unity bounce, if it happens, will occur over the next couple of months, not days.


John McCain vows to overturn Roe
by soccerandpolitics on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:29:53 PM EST
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Hot DAMN! (none / 0)

McSame is at 43.

and he loses 49-38 to Obama/Edwards


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:28:43 PM EST
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That's a surprise (none / 0)

I thought Obama would make MO competitive, but I didn't figure it to be a state that would be part of the EV plan.

Of course - the cautionary note is that I'm fairly sure that SUSA blew MO on Super Tuesday (worst call of the cycle, if memory serves).


by zonk on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:37:11 PM EST
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Not a surprise, but... (none / 0)

Great to have a great American onboard.

Jimmy kinda put the administration to shame this year by proving that we CAN meet with our enemies on civil terms if we show them some respect.

Funny how that works.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:23:35 PM EST

Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

I won't slander him.  He tried to do some things right.  He's been slammed more than deserved.  But he is the only Democrat for president for whom I didn't vote.  I left it blank.  My beef was largely with his religiosity - I'm a firm believer in keeping church/religion of any sort out of politics and out of government. Ironically, Obama is likely to be the second time I leave that slot blank.  I can't think of anything that will make me change my mind by November.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:24:48 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Does the thought of the certain disaster that McCain will present this country give you pause?

Or do you like the idea of $6 gas and war with Iran?


by Obamaphile on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:29:24 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Obviously, the commenter was happy with Reagan, so why change?


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:32:33 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Thanks for the asinine slam.  I did vote for Carter in 1980 because of my fear of Reagan.  Look what good that did me.  I didn't vote for Carter in 1976 because I knew Ford would lose.  Since I also know Obama will lose (and incidentally, Obama admires Reagan... go figure), what's the point.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:34:38 PM EST
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Enjoy your w(h)ine. (none / 0)

Though I think perhaps those grapes have been on the vine too long.


by turnover on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:41:03 PM EST
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Re: Enjoy your w(h)ine. (none / 0)

Oh, are you an oenophile, too?


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:58:01 PM EST
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Stop i (none / 0)

What crap.  Obama expressed admiration for Reagan's communication skills, not his policies, and you know it.  


by mikeinsf on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:43:43 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Well, you knew that Hillary was going to lose, too... but, you still stuck with her, right?

Obama's going to win big... I realize that it's hard for experienced Democrats to believe that a progressive candidate can win, but the times are much different than they were 20 or even 30 years ago...  The Republican brand and image is not only discredited, but toxic!  The mood around the country is more line 1964 than 1984.  Obama is different, and there's a risk, but it will be rewarded.  If anything, Obama could become our bizarro-world Reagan... realigning the country and igniting our youth to vote democratic for generations.

The times, they are a changin'!  Have faith!  We can win this and win it big!  Clinton was a much tougher opponent than McCain will be, and he won that contest already.

He's in the drivers seat!


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:46:02 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Tell you what.  Obama wins big, I'll come back here and say you were right.  He loses, you do the same.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:57:31 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Deal! :-)


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:00:03 PM EST
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election results (none / 0)

will you feel bad when the exit polls show that obama would have won if hillary supporters had done what hillary told them to do and voted for obama?


by ab03 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:33:00 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Since Obama will not win the GE, I have no control over what McCain might do.

Meanwhile, please note that Obama, even if elected, would not have sufficient power to change gas prices. Also please note that the country survived the Chimp and it will survive McCain.  Nor do I believe McCain seeks war with Iran.  He's kind of nutty but less stupid than Chimp.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:32:46 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (2.00 / 1)

"Also please note that the country survived the Chimp"

There are more then 4,000 service men and woman who did not survive the chimp and 20,000 survived disfigured and crippled and 100's of thousands of Iraqis who did not survive the chimp.

But as long as your OK, what the hell we can survive another war with McSame. Of course I assume you won't be volunteering for service on the Iranian front.


by hankg on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:39:37 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Thank you.  So true.  Amazing how some around here still think all those dead are incidental collateral.  "Chimps" and "McSame's" impact people's lives... and deaths.


by mikeinsf on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:45:53 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Ah, there y'all go again.  It's MY fault that there are dead U.S. soldiers and Iraqi citizens.  Stop making such crass, false accusations - it's going to help your candidate lose to McCain.  Hillary Clinton and the dozens of other Democratic senators did NOT vote to attack Iraq.  It wasn't their best vote ever, but they did not call for an invasion of Iraq.  

Will you also puh-leeze note that I said I do NOT believe McCain is planning to attack Iran.  Hey, even Obama has said he'll bomb Afghanistan.  That doesn't mean I think he would do it.  Not that he'll ever get a chance.  The only chance he might get is his own chance to vote for an AUMF.

Oh, also: did you vote for Kerry in 2004?  I've asked that several times of Obama people who have made claims that somehow failing to vote for Obama will make me responsible for another war, but not one of them has answered that question.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:05:42 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

I was responding to your flippant comment about the country surviving the chimp. The stakes are higher for some then for others. McCain has been very clear about there being "more wars". There certainly will be a commitment to a never ending engagement in Iraq.

Hillary Clinton voted to give the president the power to attack Iraq at his discretion. She voted against putting any limits on the presidents power to do whatever the hell he wanted when ever he wanted in regards to Iraq. As it was clear to anyone over the age of 12 that Cheney and crew wanted a war the vote gave them the power they needed to act on their desire.

Of course I voted for Kerry and I contributed to his campaign. I thought he was a lousy candidate and he was not my choice but it's not a perfect world.


by hankg on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:23:20 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

At last someone admits to voting for Kerry.  Well, so did I, while holding my nose, but if people had followed my lead in 2004 and supported Clark, I believe Chimp would have been out of there. Obama is Kerry redux.  No point in going that route again.

Remind me why Obama keeps voting for continued Iraq funding?  And don't say "to support the troops" because we all know that cutting off funding might finally end that war.  Wait, I'll answer it for you.  Obama would have voted with Kerry and Clinton had he been in the Senate at the time.  Anyone with presidential aspirations felt they had no choice and Obama would have done the same.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:55:34 PM EST
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is clinton not voting for funding? (none / 0)

and everybody on here voted for kerry.  at least all the democrats did.  there wasn't another nominee.  


by ab03 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:11:59 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

We will never know what Obama would have done with the Iraq vote so speculation is pointless. We do know unlike Hillary he voted against Kyle-Lieberman.

There is no comparison between Kerry and Obama. First Kerry would not have had a chance against Hillary. Second as a campaigner, strategist, organizer and fund raiser Kerry couldn't shine Barack's shoes. No offense intended to Kerry but Obama is in a different league.


by hankg on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:11:23 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Actually, Kerry outshines Obama 100% on liberal voting.  He's good as a senator but sucked as a prez candidate.


by Montague on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 05:23:57 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

"admits to voting for kerry"

what are you doing on a democratic blog?

i proudly vote for kerry. on this site you dont have to "admit" it anyway as it's taken as read that people here vote for our party's nominee.

the party could do with a few less defeatists.


by falseintellect on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 10:47:56 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter (none / 0)

Ah, that's you, sure.  Good for you.  But you cannot imagine the difficulty I had in getting some Obama supporters to admit having voted for Kerry when all they could say about Hillary was "she voted for the war and that's a dealbreaker for me!"

Different standards apply, I guess.


by Montague on Tue Jul 08, 2008 at 05:25:04 PM EST
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Here's One (none / 0)

The Supreme Court handed down two 5-4 decisions Monday on displaying the Ten Commandments, allowing an exhibit at the Texas capitol and barring others at two Kentucky courthouses.

That's from 2005, before Alito joined the court as a replacement for Sandra Day O'Connor. O'Connor cast the swing vote that barred the Kentucky displays. That case would be decided differently today and many other pro-religion decisions would be forthcoming with an appointment or two by John McCain who states he wants to clone Alito and Roberts.


by edg1 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:36:19 PM EST
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Re: Here's One (none / 0)

Sorry, this time it won't work.  Do you know how many times in the past I've used the SCOTUS argument to try to get my socialist, Green Party, and other friends to vote for Kerry, for Gore?  I know all the arguments.  I've thought them over thoroughly.  The difference is that Gore and Kerry had a chance to win.  (Kerry less so than Gore.)  


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:08:17 PM EST
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Re: Here's One (none / 0)

But I acknowledge that you made your case politely, and thanks for doing that.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:08:46 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

AP is now reporting that Hillary Clinton herself stated that she would be open to becoming Barack Obama's running mate.

Who knows if this AP report is correct, given all the mixed signals we've gotten today.

Whatever the case, Obama will hit 2,118 before we go to bed tonight.


by Obamaphile on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:27:26 PM EST

got a link (none / 0)


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:30:23 PM EST
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Re: got a link (none / 0)

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijDA5 bgxiHlTvS_r-SSjskS1Tq1wD912PK081


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:32:52 PM EST
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Re: got a link (none / 0)

Yeah, but see the AP's already 0 for 1 today...


Stop the racism. Fight the smears.
by CrazyDrumGuy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:37:38 PM EST
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Re: got a link (none / 0)

Breaking News headline at msnbc.com


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:33:10 PM EST
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Re: got a link (2.00 / 1)

Here's a longer version:

"
WASHINGTON (AP) - Hillary Rodham Clinton has told congressional colleagues she would be open to becoming Barack Obama's vice presidential nominee, saying she would consider it if it would help Democrats win the White House.

Clinton, a New York senator, made the comment on a conference call with other New York lawmakers Tuesday, according a participant on the call.

The senator's remarks came in response to a question from Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez who said she believed the best way for Obama to win over key voting blocs, including Hispanics, would be for him to choose Clinton as his running mate.

"I am open to it," Clinton replied, if it would help the party's prospects in November."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id= D912PQK00&show_article=1


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:36:14 PM EST
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Re: got a link (none / 0)

The senator's remarks came in response to a question from Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez who said she believed the best way for Obama to win over key voting blocs, including Hispanics, would be for him to choose Clinton as his running mate.

The source of the question is much more telling than the response.  That HRC got a surrogate to ask her that question...
McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:44:23 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (2.00 / 1)

Is this the same AP that proclaimed Obama the nominee?  Is this the same AP that claimed that Hillary was giving her concession speech tonight???

The AP got both stories wrong, so right now, I'm not paying attention to any of them.


by stefystef on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:35:09 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

We will see tonight how accurate they are.


by hankg on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:41:23 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

Maybe check Newsmax


by mikeinsf on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:47:47 PM EST
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AP: Hillary open to being Obama's VP (2.00 / 1)

I'm sure she is. But if Obama chooses any Democrat who voted with McCain to follow Bush into Iraq it will completely undercut one of Obama's stongest arguments: that his judgement is better than McCain's and that it matters.

Consider it carefully Camp Obama.


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:28:57 PM EST

Re: AP: Hillary open to being Obama's VP (2.00 / 1)

I'm inclined against it, but I'm very pleased that Clinton is showing her support for Obama in this fashion.  It certainly feels like an implicit endorsement of him to me.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:31:59 PM EST
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That is Obama's ONLY argument (2.00 / 1)


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:35:16 PM EST
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Re: That is Obama's ONLY argument (none / 0)

If you don't already think Obama has it hands down over Mad McCain with regard to Iraq, the economy, health care, personal freedoms, rebuilding America's infrastructure.......

Then there is no point in even trying to convince you since you MUST already be a bushevik.


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:42:02 PM EST
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Re: That is Obama's ONLY argument (none / 0)

See, this is why you are losing people like me.  Bushevik?  Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

I was railing against Bush in 1999.

I'm saying it over and over, but it's not that McCain is better; it's that Obama will lose, and I'm tired of enabling sexism.  I do not blame anyone who refuses to vote for someone they think is racist or homophobic, either.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:11:49 PM EST
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It isn't my fault (none / 0)

you worded your response to imply that Iraq was Obama's only argument.

And let me add that if you let anonymous bloggers determine who you'll vote for, maybe you should consider not voting since it won't be your true will being expressed on the ballot.

Exit poll Question: "Why did you vote for McCain the Insane?"

Answer: "To get even with people on the internet who think I sound like someone who agrees with him."


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:21:47 PM EST
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Re: It isn't my fault (none / 0)

That was Obama's only argument IN THE PRIMARY.  I wasn't speaking of the GE.

No, I do not permit anon. bloggers to make my choice.  You just keep digging yourself deeper.  Insult some more Democrats and see what happens.

Where did I say I will vote for McCain?  I challenge you to find that in ANY comment I have made here, on DKos, or anywhere.

November question for you: "Why do you think Obama lost in a landslide?"


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:51:39 PM EST
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Re: It isn't my fault (none / 0)

"That was Obama's only argument IN THE PRIMARY."

That makes a little sense since Obama and Hillary's positions on many issues are very similar. But wheras Hillary is still pushing the Bush/McCain position of confrontation with Iran ("obliterate them") Obama has advocated the kind of diplomacy that has prevented many wars in the past. Hillary's bellicosity didn't help her with many liberals. Also having voted with other odius elements of Bush's agenda like the 2001 Bankrupcy Law hurt her.

" Insult some more Democrats and see what happens....

Sounds like a threat to me.

"Where did I say I will vote for McCain?"

What are your options besides Obama?  Nader? Barr? McKinney?

"November question for you: "Why do you think Obama lost in a landslide?"

I won't play your little wishing game.


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:03:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It isn't my fault (none / 0)

You're overly sensitive.  What happens is a lot of blank spaces in the presidential line.  It's no threat, just a comment.

Hey, it's your game, not mine.


by Montague on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:05:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Overly sensitive? (none / 0)

"it's that Obama will lose, and I'm tired of enabling sexism.  I do not blame anyone who refuses to vote for someone they think is racist or homophobic, either."

How about political hypochondriac?

" Insult some more Democrats and see what happens...."

Overly sensitive indeed.


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:49:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: That is Obama's ONLY argument (none / 0)

If you don't already think Obama has it hands down over Mad McCain with regard to Iraq, the economy, health care, personal freedoms, rebuilding America's infrastructure.......

Then there is no point in even trying to convince you since you MUST already be a bushevik.


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:42:26 PM EST
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Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

whoopie.


by stefystef on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:33:50 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (2.00 / 1)

Feinstein talked about a Clinton vp and said it's time for HRC to drop out:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/200 8/06/03/clinton-backer-feinstein-says-it s-time-to-end/
We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:34:28 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

who are you calling a kid?

:)


by dday on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 03:40:26 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

This is very pleasing news.  I have a lot of respect for him.  As a former resident of Washington DC -I remember him sending Amy to DC Public School.

He used to listen to our Pacifica radio station; he loved the jazz, and I was pleased to be invited to his White House to a jazz concert on the lawn.  In later years I watched him help build a home on the LES of Manhattan for Habitat.


Anthropologists for human diversity; opposing McCain perversity
by NeciVelez on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:10:36 PM EST

Reid (none / 0)

he can't endorse tonight?


by ab03 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 04:16:10 PM EST

Re: Jimmy Carter For Obama (none / 0)

Actually, I think We're all Democrats.I haven't had a single discussion on this issue from anyone.I'd be pleasantly suport  the man who is really democratics.


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by anasky123 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 03:06:00 AM EST


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