Hillary as Sec of State?

by ionsys, Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 11:40:11 AM EST

Am inclined to suspect that all is not well between Hillary and Bill and hasn't been for some time-formal separation/divorce might be in the cards?--Bill's exclusion from Hillary's recent photo album of her campaign (which included pics of Chelsea) may well be a key signal that a final de-coupling may now soon be on the way-pure conjecture of course. Maybe they need to have a lot of the campaign debt rolled down as perhaps much of it was financed directly or indirectly by Bill's lecture tour warchest?

At any point, I'm inclined  to doubt that Hillary wants the stifling/do nothing/symbolic job as VP but would be far more receptive to taking over from Condi-constantly on the go,on the world stage,high profile,energized etc--and I suspect that quite apart from now stumping for Obama she may well have told him at their recent meeting that she wants the SS position and Obama may well have indicted that he might be able to do something there as VP running mate would likely be a non-starter anyway.

Other than SS, I doubt Hillary would be interested in any other cabinet position. Sec of Health would likely be seen by her as too small and confining.




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w/ 18 mill (none / 0)

voters , you would see her as cabinet level appointment for 4 years? and what happens to the " what about bill"  squad.

if she can be good enough for a position in his cabinet. She is good enough for VP.


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by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 12:25:40 PM EST

Re: w/ 18 mill (1.00 / 1)

Cabinet appointments get nowhere near as much scrutiny and vetting as vp candidates. Speaking of Bill, his foreign connections since he left office could be problematic for a Sec State appointment for Hillary.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 12:36:11 PM EST
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Re: w/ 18 mill (1.80 / 5)

Really and this you get from your basement newsletter. If you think the republicans will sit and not say a word. but who cares what they say_ not me.

Bill's foreign connections a problem?

Lets see the man had the mother of candidacy killers ---sexual accusations hurled against him not by just one but multiple women during his primary run. he was vilified all through that run and yet won 2 elections.

And you think his foreign connections will be an issue...what about his foreign connections of being the only post president to raise millions for the poor and sick? to an extenet that no president have ever done in this countries history.

heh


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 12:47:49 PM EST
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Re: w/ 18 mill (2.00 / 2)

What is amazing is to see dems bash the only damn president who has a record of enormous success  and then ask us to pray at the alter of the other one, who has not had a chance to even establishing a single record as president.

His foreign connection, pffft.  Then by that extension/ logic ---why not Rezko as a killer for obama's run?  same scandal and it proved to be a dud.  


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 12:52:08 PM EST
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Re: w/ 18 mill (none / 0)

Obama isn't married to Rezko. I didn't knock Bill, I only pointed out that his foreign connections and contributions since he left office could prove problematic. You have a habit of accusing Obama supporters of being blind to his faults. The same could be said of you when it comes to Bill Clinton.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 01:06:52 PM EST
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Re: w/ 18 mill (1.33 / 3)

BTW, which of the sock puppets is this one? I notice your grammar and spelling have suddenly gotten worse in the last few posts. I've noticed this before. You guys must take turns. You guys should be less obvious if you are going to do this.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 01:10:02 PM EST
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Are you talking to yourself when you respond to your own post, or did you forget to engage one of your sock puppets?

Just curious...


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 02:08:37 PM EST
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Re: w/ 18 mill (none / 0)

...and another puppet drops a TR.  Nice.


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 08:17:02 PM EST
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Hillary will most likely get whatever job Hillary wants in an Obama administration. I like the idea of her as Majority Leader in the Senate. I think she would be highly effective in that position. I also like the idea of a SC appointment, but think that's unlikely. HHS is a possibility,as is Sec State. She may or may not like the idea of HHS. It is a rather low-visibility position. As for State, this is usually given to someone with a history of foreign policy expertise. I don't see how Hillary fits that model. Richardson has far more foreign policy experience and is a solid Obama backer. Clark, if he's not the veep choice, is another real possibility, as is Biden or Dodd. We'll just have to see how it all plays out. I'm sure there have been, or soon will be, talks with Hillary about where she thinks she can be most effective in the next administration.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 12:34:00 PM EST

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I think Sec of Health and Human Services is a great fit functionally, but would be a slap in the face politically. It would require more sacrifice of Hillary than I think she deserves. She could get a hell of a lot done in the Senate. Even now, she's probably earned the role of top dog overnight because she sacrificed herself for the party.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 01:32:12 PM EST
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Majority Leader is off the table, i'd think- there are just too many people ahead of her, and they're not going to bow out gently even if Obama asks them to.

VP isn't the end of the world, but it's kind of a do-nothing job, and I would think she wouldn't want it.  If she does, I still think her negatives hurt with indie-leaning Republicans, which we can use this November.

A cabinet appointment is perfect.  I'd love to see her as Secretary of Health and Human Services, though it's probably not high-profile enough for her (too bad- this is where she'd do the most good, hand down).  Secretary of State wouldn't be horrible either- she doesn't have any foreign policy expertise, but in the end the Clintons are well-liked on the international stage, and she certainly has the chops for it.

In the end I would imagine she gets pretty much whatever she wants.  For VP, I'd still prefer Clark.


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 12:54:37 PM EST

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Pity,  recent polls of those independents when asked about hillary on the VP ticket proved your talking point aginst her -- FLAT WRONG!

but hey... who cares if tweety, KO and fox say that about her.


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 01:00:23 PM EST
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I thought that the poll showed that she helped nearly as much as she hurt... about 25% both ways. Is this a different poll?


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 01:27:24 PM EST
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Shoot, I'd be happy with Sec of State. That gives her more abilities and influence than VP and allows her to execute policy in a way that wouldn't interfere with duties.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 01:25:59 PM EST

Re: Hillary as Sec of State? (2.00 / 1)

you know, your first sentence is just horrific.  Why on earth would Hillary divorce Bill?  Because he isn't in a picture?  GASP!  HORROR!  no one would be married if that were the case.  

you sound like a republican radio talk show host.


by colebiancardi on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 03:34:11 PM EST

Re: Hillary as Sec of State? (none / 0)

Why would Hillary divorce Bill?


by Jaz on Sat Jun 28, 2008 at 05:41:34 PM EST


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