We will never have full party unity

The primary battle during this cycle was a long, hard-fought campaign. There are still, and probably always will be, bruised egos and bitter feelings on all sides of the Democratic party. Some of the hurt will fade away or scar over given enough time, but time is not a luxury we can afford at this critical time in our country's history.

I've wondered for some time if there is any way we can all come together before the November election. Thinking about that question led me to take a hard look at our side of the political spectrum. The last word of the preceding sentence, spectrum, is what I want to talk about in this diary.

Much of the infighting on our side seems to be caused by a mistaken belief that anyone who doesn't believe the same way we do about all of the issues is a troll or a closet republican. We've fallen into the 'my way or the highway' thinking of our opponents. If this thinking is allowed to grow we will end up tearing our party apart.

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Every once in awhile, I'll read a comment on this site that seems to me to be a solid Republican point of view and it makes me wonder about the person's true allegiance. Frequently, that comment has to deal with national security. Sometimes, if I'm unfamiliar with the person's postings on this site, I'll take a quick look at their comment history to get a feel for where they are coming from. When I do, I often discover that they seem to be solidly in the Democratic fold, but happen to disagree with me on some issues. Each time that happens, I have to rethink my initial assumptions.

The more this happens, the more I realize that our side really is a 'big tent'. There are so many different groups and individualists on the Democratic side that disagreement among them is almost guaranteed.

We are foolish to think that a party that has a left-leaning libertarian, like Dennis Kucinich, and centrists, like Hillary Clinton or Bill Richardson, will agree on every issue.

One of the reasons there are so many different points of view in this party, as in any party, is because people don't always choose party affiliation based on the issues. A lot of people choose their party the same way they choose the brand of car they drive or the religion they belong to - if it was good enough for their parents, its good enough for them. Others choose a party not out of affiliation, but more because they strongly oppose something the other party espouses. It truly does take all kinds.

The Democratic coalition contains big-government liberals that would like to see a socialist agenda take control of this country. It also contains small-government, returning Reagan Democrats. It contains GLBT rights supporters and strongly conservative southern Democrats who oppose equal rights for the GLBT community. Not surprisingly, it also contains anti-war pacifists and foreign policy hawks. It takes a really big tent to cover all of these divergent views.

In the end, we will never all agree on everything. We will probably have trouble getting everyone to agree on anything. Somehow, we must still muddle through to victory.

Today, I am taking a vow to do my part for party unity. Whenever I read a comment or diary that disagrees with my views, I will step back and think about whether this could be a valid view from a dissenting member of our community. Every time someone tries to rehash the bitterest parts of the primary, I will remind myself that there are hurt feelings that will never heal. Every time I find myself on the verge of an angry retort, I will pause to think through why the comment really set me off.

I know right now that I will fail to keep this vow at all times. There will be times where my fingers are faster than my self-imposed regulator can control. When that happens, I'll remind myself of the vow I made today and try even harder to be less divisive in the future.

Hate and divisiveness are what brought us the last eight years of disastrous domestic and foreign policy moves. The other side has learned to exploit these differences. We need to find a way to embrace them. Civil discourse is our greatest tool. In poll after poll, the American people favor the Democrats on almost every issue. We need to argue on the issues, not on petty differences.

There is only one way to begin to repair the damage done to this country's civil liberties, government efficiency, and world-wide reputation. We, the people, must take back control of OUR government from those who have created a government of the few, by the few, and for the few.

In the interests of unity, I am going to quote a great American who happened to be a Republican, Abraham Lincoln. "With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds.... "


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How do you label yourself?
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Conservative
Libertarian
Socialist
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None of the above
Labels are for clothes
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Votes: 26
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We are not like (none / 0)

the repugs. Many of them are lock steppers. Most Democrats and liberals are free thinkers.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 02:02:35 PM EST

Re: We are not like (none / 0)

That's so 2000. IMO, Repubs are not so much lock steppers anymore. You have your neo-conservatives, libertarians, paleo-conservatives, religious conservatives, financial conservatives there's even pro-environment conservatives.


by soyousay on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 02:33:08 PM EST
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Re: We are not like (none / 0)

There are lock-steppers in both parties.  

Even though I consider myself very liberal/progressive, I disagree about the "evilness" of the retroactive immunity for telecoms in the FISA bill.  I have no problem with a compromise that gives them immunity for PAST actions.  

The true lock-stepper conservatives are the creationist/ID Bible Thumpers.  

The true lock-stepper liberals are the radical socialists.  

Lock-steppers on both sides are extreme to the point that they would never compromise and they cannot see any alternative viewpoint.  Nothing terribly wrong with that, but they don't speak for either party (I hope).


by ProgressiveDL on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 03:42:03 PM EST
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Re: We are not like (none / 0)

Why are you ok with immunity for the telcos when they KNEW what they were doing was wrong and illegal? Also, did you read any of the bill? This is no compromise. This is We The People being told to bend over so they can....


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 06:23:54 PM EST
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Re: We are not like (none / 0)

I think there are much more pressing issues that need to be discussed and I also want the onus on the Bush Administration and not on companies that (erroneously) believed the Bush Administration could force the Justice Department to do its bidding.


by ProgressiveDL on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 07:19:51 PM EST
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If you give (2.00 / 1)

the telcos a pass and say it was OK, then you effectively are doing the same for bush.

Also, our RIGHTS, our Constitution and our Liberties are THE Most Important Issue. Everything else is derived from them.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 07:55:49 PM EST
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Populist (2.00 / 1)

I think I am.


by susie on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 02:07:04 PM EST

Re: We will never have full party unity (2.00 / 3)

You are right it's never going to happen.  What has gone on in this primary is a disgrace.  I will write in my vote.


by orion1 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 02:17:21 PM EST

Re: We will never have full party unity (2.00 / 2)

I think a large component of it is ego-driven vanity.  I.e., some Democrats are so enamored of the idea of ideological purity that they refuse to vote for anyone who doesn't meet their purity requirements.  

That's probably the only thing I admire about Republicans - they're far better tacticians than Democrats.  They're willing to vote for a politician that doesn't meet all of their ideals because they realize that even a less-than-perfect Republican will still advance their agenda.  Deomocrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again - they vote for Nader, or they stay home, or they write in some name - and rationalize it away somehow.


by rfahey22 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 02:40:58 PM EST

Re: We will never have full party unity (2.00 / 1)

Ugh.  Don't even mention Nader.  How fitting that his name rhymes with Vader.


by ProgressiveDL on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 03:42:41 PM EST
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Re: We will never have full party unity (none / 0)

Also, fitting that a nadir is the lowest point.  :-)


by ProgressiveDL on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 03:43:16 PM EST
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Re: We will never have full party unity (none / 0)

Wow, was this diary ever a big failure. A diary about about the 'big tent' and tolerance brought negative comments about Republicans, support for Republicans, and knocks on Nader. Like I said, a big failure as a unity and/or tolerance diary. I'm really disappointed.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 04:02:50 PM EST

I wonder what your understanding of the word... (none / 0)

"to tolerate" means.  According to Dictionary.com "to tolerate" means "to allow the existence, presence, practice, or act of without prohibition or hindrance; permit."  Were any of those ideas which you mentioned restricted by people on this blog.  Ideological purity is not what is sought.  Merely for party members to agree to accept the choice of our party for president.  And we're not demanding it, but deriding people who diagree with us about Obama's election (an idea can be tolerated and derided at the same time).  Moreover, we ask that people desiring the election of other candidates leave this community which was founded and is focused on election Democrats, since those who are dedicated to such a purpose are here only to disrupt the harmony of this community.  What's the problem with that?


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 05:23:13 PM EST
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Re: I wonder what your understanding of the word.. (2.00 / 1)

I can't really follow your argument here. It seems you think I am pushing ideological purity. That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying in this diary. As far as tolerance goes, I meant it the way it is defined in most dictionaries.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
tol·er·ance    Audio Help   ˈtɒlərəns Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tol-er-uhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-noun
1.    a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry.
2.    a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one's own.
3.    interest in and concern for ideas, opinions, practices, etc., foreign to one's own; a liberal, undogmatic viewpoint.

I was not calling for ideological purity. Far from it. I was calling for acceptance of divergent views within the party. There is plenty of room for disagreement on policy issues. That does not mean accepting people working against the party nominee or accepting our opponents views. Tolerance does not equate to acceptance.

My main point was that we should come together around our agreements instead of letting our differences push us apart.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 05:44:24 PM EST
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Fine, but... (none / 0)

that is not a major issue on this blog.  The most divergence and vehemence is expressed against those advocating against out nominee, not specific issues.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:13:32 PM EST
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Re: Fine, but... (2.00 / 1)

True, but that doesn't mean there isn't room for criticism of the candidate for positions he takes on specific issues. The point is that there are all sorts of positions people take on the issues. If Hillary was the candidate and she started talking about taking military action against Iran, I would speak out against her stance. If Barack starts talking about privatizing social security, I'll be up in arms. Yet, there are people in the Democratic party that would be in favor of either one of those proposals.

There are plenty of trolls on the site. I addressed that issue in the first part of the diary.


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good." Samuel Johnson
by MS01 Indie on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:24:45 PM EST
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Yes, but nowadays we're seeing... (none / 0)

those policy differences couched not as an effort to dispute on the policy, but to question Obama's commitment to the Democratic party or his suitability to be a candidate.  Those people will continued to be called out for their "concern."


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Tue Jun 24, 2008 at 05:46:20 AM EST
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Re: We will never have full party unity (2.00 / 1)

Yep, great diary. I'm a liberal but I'm looking forward to voting against Obama. He is inexperienced and I don't think the majority of Americans want a therapist in chief to offer a sense of false hope.


by bsavage on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 04:07:14 PM EST

Re: We will never have full party unity (none / 0)

Somehow I doubt that.  Did I miss the period in time when McCain was president?


by rfahey22 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 04:18:42 PM EST
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hhmm...ideological purity .... (2.00 / 2)

that's what make democrats so fricken awesome.  that this concept is malarkey outside of the blogosphere.  good diary though.  rec'd.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 04:38:08 PM EST

Re: hhmm...ideological purity .... (none / 0)

lol, come to Central PA sometime. I'll show you some real-world right-wing IDP. We can ask locals about "the gays" while we (try to) count the flowerbox flags.

It's very real, and very alive.


by Neef on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 06:02:59 PM EST
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