Memo to The Senators: Ways YOU Can Stop the FISA Bill (aka We're Sick of Excuses)

I am cross posting the following diary for a blogger friend at EENR.
Originally posted at EENR Blog and also cross posted at DailyKos
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Well, by now we all know that the House passed the shameful (and inherently unconstitutional by just about any study of the Constitution) disgrace that is the current FISA bill with a whopping 105 Democrats supporting its passage. This is the bill that makes the warrantless wiretapping legal as well as provides immunity for the telecom companies who knowingly provided the Bush Administration with our conversations illegally.

Many of us know that a filibuster is the surest way to kill a bill in the Senate and that there are 49 Democratic Senators, nine more than are needed to sustain a filibuster. By now, many of us also know that Obama intends to vote for the bill, as of course does head capitulator Harry Reid and other assorted Senators including some Democrats. And we are starting to hear the gurgling forth of excuses from a few of them, much of it akin to what we heard in the House last Friday.

Seeing that there may, in fact, not be enough Constitution-loving Democrats to filibuster this stain of a bill, and given that "not enough votes to filibuster" should never be an excuse for something this odious to pass in the Senate, I offer (or rather educate and/or remind) the Senators of not only the meaning of the FISA bill but also ways to block a bill that exist in the Senate in addition to a filibuster.

(Info below from the Senate's own website.)

Senators, please follow me below the fold...

Dear Democratic Senators,

I had been hoping you were all aware of the actual effects of the FISA bill, but I am now somewhat upset to be hearing creative "reasoning" going on amongst you all regarding the upcoming vote on this embarrassing piece of legislation.

Now, it seems (to me) appropriate, since you are actually working for the "people" (a gentle reminder if you will), for me, one of those "people", to offer you some advice and counsel concerning the FISA vote set to take place this week in the Senate.

First, a quick refresher for you on the 4th Amendment of our Bill of Rights, which is located (in case you've forgotten) in our beloved Constitution. The text of it reads as follows:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

No Warrants. None. The new FISA bill allows for warrantless wiretaps to be utilized with only the approval of the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence and only stipulates that they have "reasonable belief" that the person being tapped is outside the United States. Two people. Who work for one Administration. I think we all can imagine what "reasonable belief" means in the current Administration; especially in light of their high level of veracity. Not. Why we would give any Administration this kind of power with such little oversight is beyond me.

In addition, and I was hoping that you knew this, but the current FISA law already provides enough to facilitate any surveillance, foreign or domestic, that the government would need. And it's constitutional to boot. With the current FISA law, the government does have to get a warrant, but they can get it from the FISA Court which deals specifically with classified and sensitive cases. Further, the government can even start surveillance in an emergency and obtain the warrant retroactively; all they have to do is apply for the warrant within 72 hours of beginning surveillance. Regardless of new technology, the above provides for the need to move quickly, and the FISA Court was not designed to move slowly either.

The retroactive immunity for the telecom companies also bewilders me; it appears on its face to be an ex post facto measure. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that in and of itself, unconstitutional? Oh yes, it is, according to Article I, Section 9 of our Constitution, which states:

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

Of course, this is the same section of the Constitution that contains the Writ of Habeas Corpus, so we already know that you probably skipped that section entirely, that is, if you studied the Constitution at all. (The SCOTUS had to overturn your idiocy on that one.)

So, now that I've outlined what many of us, the "people", know about the FISA bill, I have some suggestions for you to enable you to stop this shredding of our Constitution.

In order to stop the FISA bill here are some options for you:

First, you can object to the bill even being brought up to the Floor. For legislative purposes:

Whenever possible, therefore, the majority leader instead calls up bills and resolutions by unanimous consent. If Senators object to unanimous consent to take up a measure, they are implicitly threatening to filibuster a motion to consider it. They may do so because they oppose that measure, or in the hope of influencing action on some other matter.

Unanimous consent. That means all of you must consent. This also means that it only takes one of you to stop it. Granted, it may not make you popular with your peers, but this isn't the time (or issue for that matter) for popularity and politicking, this is the time to save the Constitution and the Country by extension.

If unanimous consent doesn't tickle your fancy, how about placing a hold on the bill?

Senators can even place a "hold" on a measure or nomination, although this practice is not recognized in Senate rules. "Holds" are requests by Senators to their party's floor leader to object on their behalf to any request to consider a matter, at least until they have been consulted. The majority leader will usually not even request consent to consider a measure if there is a hold on it.

If several of you were to publicly request a hold on the bill, it would be much more controversial for Harry Reid to bring it to the Floor as it would be flying in the face of this common Senate practice. It would (and this is for you Harry) provide the Democratic Senators who are in election situations with some cover: "Couldn't vote on it - a hold prevented it from even coming to the Floor."

If these things fail and there are not enough of you for a filibuster, here's one more option. This one would admittedly take quite a bit of ingenuity (and to be honest, we're not at all sure any of you actually have any ingenuity), but any of you could offer an amendment, and unlike in the House, that amendment does not have to be germane; it can have to do with anything.

Finally, Senate rules do not require that amendments be germane or relevant, except to general appropriation bills, budget measures, and matters under cloture (and a few other bills, pursuant to statutes). Consequently, if a committee fails to report a measure, a Senator may offer its text as an amendment to any other measure under consideration, without regard to the scheduling preferences of the majority leader.

Attach something that Democrats like and Bushlicans would have a hard time voting for - something that would almost guarantee a Bush veto. Timetables perhaps? Basically, this is saying "well, if ya want capitulation, here's your  g^*damn capitulation jacka$$." As there is no line item veto, BushCo would almost surely have to veto the bill. I know there is little hope for this option to be used, let alone survive Conference, but I figured I'd put it out there; you Democrats in the Senate look like you could use all the suggestions you can get.

So, guys and gals in the Senate, instead of giving BushCo what it wants this time and living up to what is becoming the historical name for you - The Capitulation Congress, why don't you all cowboy up and make us proud to have you representing us. We will remember and appreciate those of you who stood up for the preservation of our Constitution.

For those of us the "people" who would like to let your Senator know how you feel about the FISA bill, here is the link to the contact info for all the Senators.

For those of you still stewing about your Representatives in the House, here is the link for how they voted last week on the FISA bill, and the state by state links to their contact info.
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I would like to add the following link: http://congress.org I use this all the time to contact elected officials and the media. It is a great tool.


Poll
The Senate should sink the FISA bill:
Yes
No
Who's FISA?

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Do you think (2.00 / 3)

poligirl is a little pissed off?

I know I am!


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 10:35:20 PM EST

by the way (2.00 / 3)

can ya help out a friend with a rec?  :)


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 10:50:06 PM EST
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Thanks for cross-posting. (2.00 / 3)

The bill is a nightmare, and I feel very disgusted and disillusioned with the buckling I'm seeing from our side of the aisle.

We all need to do our part on this.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 10:46:36 PM EST

You are welcome (2.00 / 3)

and I feel the same.

We did not get here over night and fixing this crap will not happen quickly, but that does not mean we should not SCREAM about it and take action.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 10:49:19 PM EST
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I am off (2.00 / 3)

to go drink beer and help out, with my money and my presence, a local charity event called Friends Of The Holidays. They do this twice a year to raise money for Christmas to help feed 1000 families and get presents for the kids. I believe this has been going on for 10 plus years.

They have silent auctions, door prizes, 7 bands, art, music, etc. It is a great time.

If you are in the Tacoma, WA area, it is at The Swiss Pub. It started at 3pm and last until about midnight.
http://swisspub.com


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 10:56:47 PM EST

Not entirely accurate (none / 0)

No Warrants. None. The new FISA bill allows for warrantless wiretaps to be utilized with only the approval of the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence and only stipulates that they have "reasonable belief" that the person being tapped is outside the United States. Two people. Who work for one Administration. I think we all can imagine what "reasonable belief" means in the current Administration; especially in light of their high level of veracity. Not. Why we would give any Administration this kind of power with such little oversight is beyond me.

In addition, and I was hoping that you knew this, but the current FISA law already provides enough to facilitate any surveillance, foreign or domestic, that the government would need. And it's constitutional to boot. With the current FISA law, the government does have to get a warrant, but they can get it from the FISA Court which deals specifically with classified and sensitive cases. Further, the government can even start surveillance in an emergency and obtain the warrant retroactively; all they have to do is apply for the warrant within 72 hours of beginning surveillance. Regardless of new technology, the above provides for the need to move quickly, and the FISA Court was not designed to move slowly either.

Please read the text of the actual bill.  It does require a court order, just like the rest of FISA, and all of the surveillance under the program is subject to judicial review.

The only real difference in terms of the need to get a court order is the timing--the new FISA bill allows seeking retroactive court orders within 7 days rather than 72 hours.  Which isn't exactly an earth-shattering difference.

What is different about the new bill is the type of surveillance it authorizes.  Specifically, it makes it possible to have roving wiretaps against a specific person regardless of the route his or her communication is taking, rather than having the warrants limited to a specific method and route of communication.  The Internet is rapidly making that latter, more restrictive form of wiretap useless.

But the judicial oversight aspect is almost identical to the rest of FISA.  If you're going to criticize the judicial oversight aspect of the new bill as unconstitutional, then you can't turn around and call FISA itself constitutional.

Now the telecom immunity, that's a very different story.  That needs to be out of the bill, but good.

I like the filibuster and amendment-death ideas.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 11:05:10 PM EST

Re: Not entirely accurate (2.00 / 2)

reading entire bill right now...

so far i have some serious language problems with it, but i'm only into the 5th of 55 pages...

will respond when done...

--poligirl


"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
by poligirl on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 11:42:20 PM EST
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Yeah, my sympathies... (none / 0)

Reading this much legalese ain't exactly a walk in the park.  That's why we rely on learned scholars to interpret bills for us--but the ACLU seriously let me down on this one.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think this bill is perfect (it needs to have more technical detail on the specific surveillance activities it does and does not allow, and it allows the court and the administration way too much time to drag their feet if there's a conflict--30 days here, 60 days there, 30 more days another place...), but the ACLU's summary is full of a lot of apparently intentional distortion.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 11:48:46 PM EST
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