Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (updated)

I support Hillary Clinton as the Democratic Party nominee and as the next President of the United States for reasons which I've expressed over the last 6 months. So, most of you here on MyDD know that I'm an ardent supporter of Hillary Clinton. But, you don't know that I'm like 1 in 10 Americans who many still refer to as a sinner, a sexual deviant, or as an abomination. So, today, in honor of Gay Pride month, I'm coming out of the closet on MyDD to share my very personal story why I will continue to support and stand by Hillary Clinton.

I grew up in a small town in central Virginia in the 1980's. Luckily, I passed. Passed? Passed as a heterosexual. It helped that I was popular and my quirkiness wasn't questioned. I wasn't subjected to the harassment, bullying, and teasing of which other tomboys or sissies became targets. But what happened to me was just as harmful. I hid. I hid from my family, my friends, and my community. In my last two years of high school, I was confused, alone, and becoming increasingly more depressed to the point of suicidal. By sheer will (and maybe a touch of grace), I made it to college. I started meeting people who were different, men and women who weren't afraid to express themselves outside of the norm, outside of social expectation, outside of heterosexuality. They didn't conform.

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Then, in 1991, a little known Governor from Arkansas running for President come out and openly expressed support for gays and lesbians. He spoke out, he validated -- on a national political stage -- my right to serve this country without fear of discrimination. Both Bill and Hillary challenged the heterosexual hegemony of this country and gave the LGBT community an opening in our national discourse. Bill and Hillary supported LGBT rights at their own political peril and against a huge backlash from their own party, Republicans, and religious organizations. They stood up for me and kicked the closet door open. Their strength encouraged me to make the long journey of coming out to myself, my family, my friends, and my community. Although the 1993 compromise policy, Don't Ask Don't Tell, fell short of what the Clinton's wanted, it started the country on the journey toward equal rights for LGBT Americans.

Even though that was almost 20 years ago, here I am today, coming out because (heterosexual) hegemony still exists. This country has much work to do to end employment discrimination and hate crimes against LBGT Americans, and establish equal rights, benefits, and marriage equality. Hillary has been and will continue to be a champion of civil rights, LGBT rights, and women's rights. She has faced the fire and brimstone and is still standing up. As President, Hillary will continue to work for and with the LGBT community to ensure we enjoy the same rights and protections as other citizens. June is the celebration of Gay Pride. In honor, Hillary released this statement:

As we begin Gay Pride Month, I join the LGBT community in celebrating an historic year in which our country continues to make progress towards the fair and equal treatment of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans. Still, we have so much work to do. I look forward to working with the LGBT community to make sure that all Americans in committed relationships have equal benefits and that nothing stands in the way of loving couples who want to adopt children in need. We need to expand our federal hate crimes legislation and pass a fully-inclusive Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And finally, we need to put an end to the failed policy of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Courage, honor, patriotism and sacrifice - the traits that define our men and women in uniform - have nothing to do with sexual orientation.

To each and every LGBT American, I say this: You have done so much to help this country understand your lives by simply being open and honest about who you are and living your lives with dignity. Thank you for your courage. It is time that we recognize your hard work. I know that this country is ready for changes in the law that reflect the evolution in our hearts. You deserve a government that treats you with the respect you deserve.

America deserves a President who appeals to the best in each of us, not the worst; a President who values and respects all Americans and treats all Americans equally no matter who they are or who they love. That is truly the promise of America.

My connection to the Clintons runs deep and is very personal. In many ways, they saved my life. After I read Hillary's statement, it reminded me of where my journey began with the Clintons and why I will stand by Hillary as long as she is in this race. It's simple; Bill and Hillary stood up for me when it was the most politically unpopular thing to do. Hillary still stands by me, and as President, she will continue to stand by me, the LGBT community, and the American community -- all shapes, sizes, colors, creeds, and orientations -- all of us that make up this fabric of free citizens who have the right to live, love, and pursue happiness without fear of persecution, discrimination, and marginalization.

There, I've said it. It's done. I can't retract these words. I've left the safety of blending in. I'm out, I'm proud, I'm standing up for and standing by Hillary. Now, I leave you with a vid of Hillary Clinton speaking at the Human Rights Campaign about a year ago.

Update [2008-6-2 19:55:24 by grlpatriot]: Thank you to everyone for putting this diary on the Rec list. I appreciate your support for the LGBT community and "coming out" for Hillary comments. I especially want to highlight something that Catilinus wrote in his/her comment: "...not all patriot struggles happen in battle, nor often in the company of allies...[LBGT] stories...should be celebrated in our school text books, along with others who fought their own lonely battle to make this country better than the one they inherited."

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Tips (2.00 / 56)

Thanks.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 04:51:25 PM EST

Re: Tips (1.94 / 17)

This is a great diary, hits very close to home for me. Rec'd.


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 04:53:16 PM EST
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Been there with our daughter. (2.00 / 13)

I admit to not having done well to begin with, but we're over that and happier now than we have ever been.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 04:59:34 PM EST
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Re: Been there with our daughter. (2.00 / 8)

Mojo from my mother. People forget how difficult this is on families.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:07:52 PM EST
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Right back at 'ya!!! (2.00 / 4)

Thanks.  I'm not proud of me then...but it was worth  it to see our daughter happy.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:16:31 PM EST
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Re: Right back at 'ya!!! (2.00 / 1)

Had a friend who's father pretty much disowned him. Wasn't until he got sick that his father started talking to him again. He was so happy that his father came back. He could have been bitter and not wanted to have anything to do with his father but no. You should have heard his voice. Coyote put the past in the past where it belongs. A reminder of why you should love your daughter extra special. How close you came to loosing her.

Be glad that you are able to. That's what's important.

Hugs  to you grlpatriot. You too Coyote.

Thank you for this diary grlpatriot.(((Hugs2U)))


by 12 dogs and a blog on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:43:27 AM EST
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Re: Tips (2.00 / 11)

This obama supporter thanks you for your heartfelt and moving story.  Recc'd


by GreenHills on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 04:54:13 PM EST
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Re: Tips (2.00 / 2)

Likewise.  You got my first mojo rating after I noticed I had it back after being "grounded" for about a week.

Take pride in who you are, and I hope you can join us in making our party's nominee the next President of the United States.


by doschi on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 07:25:09 PM EST
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Re: Tips (2.00 / 2)

Me, too.  Thanks for a great diary!  I am hopeful that the next eight years will see tremendous strides for gays and lesbians in American society.  


by deminva on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:46:07 PM EST
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Re: Tips (2.00 / 2)

I disagree strongly with your choice of candidate, but offer you congratulations and kudos on choosing to live openly as you are.


by nightsweat on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:07:18 PM EST
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Phantom Tip (2.00 / 3)

My tipper is broke, it's the best I can do... ;-)

-chris


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by chrisblask on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:35:10 PM EST
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Re: Tips (2.00 / 4)

I appreciate you sharing your personal story with us, and for keeping your diary uplifting and positive.  Senator Clinton is well-served by support like this.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 07:17:37 PM EST
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Re: Tips (2.00 / 1)

No, thank you for this diary. I have several gay and lesbian friends. They are some of the bravest people I know. Your story is their story. It is a story we all need to hear and better understand. Tipped and Rec'ed.


by Denizen Kristine on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 09:31:45 PM EST
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Re: Tips (1.00 / 1)

Delusional; it's time for you and other Clinton supporters to "come out" for the actual Dem. Nominee, Barack Obama.  Anything less is selfish on your part.  We all have supported losing candidates in the past, and it hurts all the more for having come so close, like Gore in 2000, but the pain goes away.  Obama will be a great president and will renew the Dem. Party.  It is a good thing.  "Come out" now before the pain calcifies and you become jaded beyond repair.


by PittsburghPete on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 11:22:13 PM EST
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There's a time and a place (none / 0)

IMO this is neither, PittsburghPete.


Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. -Voltaire
by kydoc2 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 12:03:59 PM EST
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Re: Tips (none / 0)

And your remarks have to do with this diary...HOW????


by GendraX on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 12:31:37 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 14)

I accept you for who and what you are.  The stigma forced upon so many of our brothers and sisters is a crime that may never really be erased.  Growing up in South Carolina I saw far too much of it, frankly.

Let's work together to push homophobia even further into the fringes of society.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 04:55:55 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 10)

Call me an optimist but I hope that we have equal civil rights in full swing by 2012 (although yesterday is the right answer)

I also hope we can crush homophobia to the levels we have taken racism and sexism by 2016 (although that should have been yesterday)

I also hope we can give the least tolerated of Americans, those of middle eastern decent some degree of respect in the next four years.

The latest move by Dunkin Donuts proves alot of this is not the case yet.

Please Glppatriot, and all other Clinton supporters, realize that neither Clinton, Obama or any single politican will guarantee you anything.

If you thought Clinton was the #1 for your cause, then take your cause to Obama, the DNC, your state senators etc

This is what our party is about, a convergence of ideas that all run on the same river.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:03:21 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Thank you for the uprate grlpatriot, it means alot as I find civil rights one of our CORE principles not only as Democrats but as Americans.

Thank you for this diary.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:48:35 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

Your comment deserves mucho mojo but I only had one mojo to give. Here's another.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:02:00 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Hear, hear.  I still remember my utter disgust when Virginia Republicans granted custody to a grandmother whose daughter was a lesbian.  In the 1990's.  Despicable!

We Democrats must continue to lead this charge for full protection and rights.  The good news is that American opinion is changing--and is being led by the generation now coming of age.  Most of them just don't see why they should be outraged, God bless 'em.


by deminva on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:49:11 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 8)

I'm a Hillary supporter and my sister is gay, married (but not legally) and they've adopted two wonderful kids!  

Thanks for the great diary!


by searchforsolidarity on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:17:59 PM EST
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Gay adoption and fostering (2.00 / 2)

Thanks for coming out for Hillary. That's wonderful that they adopted. My partner and I want to have one  and then maybe foster. Most states don't allow LGBT fostering, which is sad because there are so many kids that need loving homes.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:07:05 PM EST
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I congratulate you for your courage. While I never thought it was an issue on MyDD, I'm also gay.


by zenful6219 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 04:56:14 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 8)

It pleases me that it is NOT an issue here on MYDD.
If ever a place where being one's self should be accepted with open arms...MY DIRECT DEMOCRACY should be it.

I am straight, but, I attended my first PRIDE parade in London a few years back. I have been twice now to the one in LA. I go in support of my cousin, my brother-in-law, several friends and ALL GLBTs. I recommend attending the celebration to anyone who enjoys a spectacular party!!  :)

(your "I'm also gay" made me think of the end of the movie 'In And Out' w/Kevin Kline)  ;)


by Kysen on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:04:49 PM EST
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The movie 'In And Out' w/Kevin Kline (2.00 / 6)

"I'm also gay (a Hillary supporter)" - yes, the solidarity of standing together.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:11:41 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 4)

No, but I felt marginalized enough for supporting Hillary, so I didn't want to make it worse.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:09:45 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

You offered a great reason for that support.


by deminva on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:49:57 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 6)

Thank you for sharing your story.  


by JustJennifer on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 04:56:17 PM EST

Thank you (2.00 / 9)

inspiring, close to home, and reminds me of why I support Hillary Clinton.  


by 4justice on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 04:57:29 PM EST

beautiful diary. (2.00 / 7)

thanks for sharing....rec'd.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:00:50 PM EST

She gets it (2.00 / 12)

Hillary Clinton has a COMPASSION and an EMPATHY which cannot be learned. It is a natural gift which has grown and matured and thrived. She has the ability to listen and respect and learn from everyone she meets.

She truly is someone who LIVES the notion of "learn something new everyday". She is a sponge, a listener, a gatherer of information. The more she interacts with people, the stronger and wiser she becomes.

She gets it. She sees the larger truth, the bigger picture.

Thanks grlpatriot for sharing how she speaks for you. She speaks for me too... different reasons, but with the same exact resonance. Recommend.


"Life is too short, time is too precious, and the stakes are too high to dwell on what might have been." Hillary Rodham Clinton - June 7, 2008
by twinmom on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:07:33 PM EST

Hillary gets it (none / 0)

Yes, she does.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:16:00 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Great Diary!!!


by nikkid on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:13:05 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 3)

Beautiful diary.....  your words are inspiring and heartfelt.  I hope as we go forward we can all look out for one another, all try to do random acts of kindness and have compassion for one another.  


by GendraX on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:29:20 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Thank you, I hope for that too.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:44:14 PM EST
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"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:30:27 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Cute boys. If I were I man, I'd be gay.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:42:43 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 4)

Hehe, that's the spirit.  I really enjoyed your diary.  I grew up in the Reagan/Bush era where gay Americans were about as invisible as could be.  I was fortunate in that my family had several gay friends while I was growing up (sadly, I don't think any of them are with us any longer thanks to AIDS) and I was raised to understand that we're all just people.

In fact, that reminds me of a story.  Back when I was in school, my roommate came out to me after we'd been living together for 2 years (most of which he'd spend dating girls, as it happens).  I now know it's a tough thing to do and I probably should have been warm and supporting but honestly, my reaction was just complete indifference.  I'd been raised to believe so thoroughly that it makes no difference if you're gay or straight, it was truly a fact that seemed irrelevant to me!  Funny to think about.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:46:26 PM EST
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I'm grinning. :D (2.00 / 4)

"Cute boys. If I were I man, I'd be gay."

This reminds me of when my younger daughter, then about 9, discovered 'Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.' She watched it about 5 times in a row, then declared, "You know, if I'd been born a boy, I'd be a drag queen."


There had better be cheese at the end of this maze...
by LoosCanN on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 07:57:30 PM EST
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Re: I'm grinning. :D (none / 0)

LOL. I totally get it. Too funny. Thanks for sharing that.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:12:02 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

Perhaps I'm actually a lesbian.  I'm really attracted to women.


by deminva on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:50:53 PM EST
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Actual lesbian (none / 0)

Are you trying to say that I'm not? Wow. Thanks for stopping by sister.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 11:22:40 PM EST
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Re: Actual lesbian (none / 0)

Channeling Austin Powers:

I'm a man, baby!


by deminva on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 12:06:56 AM EST
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Re: Actual lesbian (none / 0)

LOL, sorry, I thought you were a bitchy lesbian. But if you like, I'll make you an honorary lesbian.


by grlpatriot on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:10:53 AM EST
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Re: Actual lesbian (none / 0)

Oh, don't get the straight guys started.  We're all honorary lesbians!

;~)

-chris


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 02:09:13 AM EST
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I want one of those shirts. (2.00 / 1)


by linc on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:44:26 PM EST
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So Steve,, (2.00 / 1)

don't leave us hanging....which one are you?


by JoeCoaster on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:06:02 PM EST
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Re: So Steve,, (2.00 / 5)

I'm the good-looking one, of course.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:16:01 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 3)

great diary, rec'd

steve m, love that pic!


by colebiancardi on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:42:18 PM EST

I am out there with you (2.00 / 10)

Hillary has also always been right there for our community.  This little gay boy from the backwoods of Montucky couldn't be prouder of you or Hillary.  Both of the Clintons have always been there for this community and have always pushed back for us.  Great diary.


by linc on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:43:26 PM EST

Re: I am out there with you (2.00 / 4)

Thanks for "coming out" for Hillary, linc. The Clintons have always stood by us and Hillary will keep fighting for our equal rights.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:49:41 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 3)

Til the last dog dies.


by handsomegent on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:46:37 PM EST

Recced (2.00 / 4)

Because I am glad to meet someone else who viewed the Dont Ask Dont Tell as a step in the right direction.

And because I liked reading your very personal story =)

Too bad you made it to the rec list without my vote, however =)


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:48:20 PM EST

Baby steps (2.00 / 2)

Thanks. Yes, Don't Ask Don't Tell was a step in the right direction. The most significant event was a presidential candidate and eventual president talking about lesbian and gay rights in a positive way. As an American community, we have to take baby steps together. My partner (of 10 yrs) and I have had a civil union for 8 years now. Even though only a few states recognize it, I feel certain that within the next 10-15 years, we will be able to share in marriage equality. It makes me happy to know that.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:59:46 PM EST
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Re: Baby steps (2.00 / 2)

I agree with that.

I was disappointed at the time, but there was no way the Right Thing was going to be done.

President Clinton put the wedge in the door, and it cannot ever be closed again.

We are still something of a laughing stock among our allies.  The gay soldiers in Isreal, Canada and France stand among the most feared forces on the planet (I have to put Canada in there.  More than happy to pick on my on-again off-again host country, but their soldiers are scary, effective mofos...).

It is time to end DADT.  The next president will.

-chris


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:10:30 PM EST
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Re: Baby steps (2.00 / 3)

For those of us who remember the ugly years of Reagon and Bush I, we appreciate the Clintons' heroic pushing back against the right-wing hegemony.   The Don't Ask Don't Tell policy was a step in the right direction because it brought the matter of LGBT civil rights squarely onto the national stage--and also because change sometimes comes incrementally.  

But, as many of us recall, the backlash against the Clintons was twofold at the time:  First, from the right for even bringing up the matter of gays in the military, and second from the left who thought the policy didn't go far enough.

Unfortunately, the demonization and backlash against the Clintons continues within the Dem Party.  Winning back the White House from the Republican stronghold and ushering in an era of prosperity and peace by the two-term Clinton presidency is viewed by many in the Dem party--starting with Obama--as historically insignificant. Unlike the Republicans, it is shameful that we cannibalize our very own.      


by trixta on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 10:39:29 PM EST
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Re: Baby steps (none / 0)

Unfortunately, the demonization and backlash against the Clintons continues within the Dem Party.  Winning back the White House from the Republican stronghold and ushering in an era of prosperity and peace by the two-term Clinton presidency is viewed by many in the Dem party--starting with Obama--as historically insignificant. Unlike the Republicans, it is shameful that we cannibalize our very own.

You had me in agreement until that part.

Bill Clinton being good in the 1990s does not translate into Hillary Clinton being right for 2008.  Two reasons at the simplest level:

1/  The are two different people.  To say otherwise would be at the best simplistic and at the worst, frankly, sexist.  Donna and I are a team, but hiring the other one of us for the same job because you like the first one is asnine: we are dramatically different people (thank god - the idea of living with someone like me... ugh).  Personally I think Bill Clinton did a great job and I am not overly enamored with Hillary in the same seat.  They could swap genders outright and it would have no effect on my opinion whatsoever, they are just individuals with entirely different attributes.

2/  Family dynasties are distasteful.  Two Bushes, two Clintons...  We have a broader pool of potential hires in this country than the family members of former employees, no matter how good the last person was.  It is at the very least continuously difficult to explain to my foreign friends that we actually are a free and pragmatic country when we only hire Presidents from a select set of families, and more importantly it is disengenuous to say so if it is not true...

One of the wonderful things about America is that we overall do not idolize people.  "That's nice you were all that then, what are your plans now?"  This is in stark contrast to countries as similar as Canada, much less most cultures further afield.  I cannot tell you how often my Canadian friends and business colleagues drop names and work historical threads as I have quietly (or often enough not) thought "just shoot me.  this has nothing to do with the task at hand."

Having experienced other ways of operating, I have relished the chance to be back in the States where people don't care who you know or what you have done - unless the latter applies to what needs doing now.

-best

-chris


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 11:48:54 PM EST
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Gay men love Hillary (2.00 / 3)

She's a diva to us all.


by Sieglinde on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:53:27 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 3)

Great diary.  This Obama supporter salutes you, and looks forward to continuing the fight for equality for ALL.


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 05:54:43 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

I am also gay, but believe the Clinton's threw us under the bus with DADT.


by venician on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:09:24 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Can I ask how old you were in 91-93? Were you old enough to understand how history making Bill's position was? I'm not trying to be confrontation. Just trying to understand how anyone can criticize the Clintons on their LGBT record. Yes, Don't Ask Don't Tell was a compromise, but IMHO I don't feel like he threw the LGBT community under the bus. It may seem like that now, but not at the time.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:22:14 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

Old enough to know that we were being used for our votes and got nothing in return.


by venician on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:29:03 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Damnit, Im not old enough and nor am I gay, but I tried writing three different responses to both of you in agreement, but each time I write I see I just don't know this issue.

Did Clinton do the best for gays, no.  Did he do the best he could being that probably the whole GOP base still that HIV was a gay disease?

Could Clinton have gotten away with doing NOTHING at all?

In my opinion OF COURSE, but he didn't

Take this positive away, Bill forced the government into a position of admitting to descrimination.

Therefore the case against the military on this issue has already been built.

I don't know Bill was right or not, but when he have Nurses kicked out of Iraq and the military for being gay, the SAME nurse who spent tours saving American and Iraqi lives is sent home then we have to know we have a huge albeit embaressing problem for America.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:47:10 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

And we suffer to this day with Bills triangulation style of governing. Many gay linguists have recently  left the military at a time when the military is desperate for soldiers who can speak another language.  


by venician on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 07:01:54 PM EST
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First national gay/lesbian rights discussion (2.00 / 1)

So, you don't think that elevating gay and lesbian rights to the national political discussion during the 1991-2 presidential campaign was ground breaking? Bill put is neck out their for us. Bill wanted to end discrimination in the military, but could only get the compromise policy of DADT. Yes, we need to end the policy. It is also almost 20 years later. The climate is better for ending it. Hillary has said she will.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:27:41 PM EST
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Re: First national gay/lesbian rights discussion (none / 0)

Sorry, but I no longer believe anythin the clintons say. And it is very upsetting that 20 years later, we are no better off in the military then we were before. Funny how Bill's neck is still fine, but gays in the military are NOT.


by venician on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:33:02 PM EST
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Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Two questions:

1.  How did Bill Clinton's "triangulation" cause LGBT to suffer?  Be specific.

2.  How is Bill Clinton responsible for gay linguists leaving the military AFTER he left office?


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:38:10 PM EST
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I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think you're being quite fair.  I was in the Army when Clinton got elected.  There was so much anti-gay sentiment when the gay issue came up, there was NO WAY for anything to get done more than what Clinton did.

It isn't really fair to judge Clinton's record on the issue as being poor simply because he didn't go far enough.  As someone on this blog said before, the perfect should never be the enemy of the good.  DADT is not a perfect policy (not by any stretch).  But it was a step in the right direction that Clinton did not have to take.  He deserves some credit.


by slynch on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:55:17 PM EST
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Amazing!  But triangulation--i.e. centrist politics-- was the only way we not only won back the WH, but were able to govern in that awful right-wing, "moral majority" climate.  

Unlike Obama, Clinton didn't have a magic wand to change Washington--but he sure accomplished a hell of a lot through courage, intellect, and political savy!  


by trixta on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 10:50:03 PM EST
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Are you old enough to remember the GOP National Convention from 1992?  I certainly do.  They let the right wing loonies take over.  I will never forget the signs and chanting:  "Gay rights never.  Family rights forever."

Watch this clip.  The idea that Bill Clinton embraced gay rights for our votes is ridiculous.  Any LGBT who watched that convention and still supported Bush has serious self-esteem issues.


Another Clintonista against John McCain
by psychodrew on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:32:38 PM EST
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I disagree.  The Republicans forced the issue on Clinton very early in his administration, and I thought he helped move the armed forces and American society forward.


by deminva on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:52:30 PM EST
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I was young, but even then I knew it was a step, small and imperfect but still not easy, step in the right direction.  I'm not a Clinton supporter, but even now you have to give Bill the benefit of the doubt here.  Imagine if Republicans had been in power for those 8!


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 11:28:30 PM EST
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This is a very moving diary (2.00 / 3)

I congratulate you and salute your courage and also wish you all the happiness in the world as you embark on this new journey and phase of your life.

It really does not matter whom i support as your courage and your honest support for Senator Clinton is an example that we all should follow.


by likelihood zero on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:01:40 PM EST

Great diary, great story. (2.00 / 1)

Thank you for sharing this with all of us.


by catfish2 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:05:29 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Thank you for your diary from this straight woman with many, many lesbian friends.

And I think you'll feel comfortable with these ideas:

"    I'm running for President to build an America that lives up to our founding promise of equality for all - a promise that extends to our gay brothers and sisters. It's wrong to have millions of Americans living as second-class citizens in this nation. And I ask for your support in this election so that together we can bring about real change for all LGBT Americans. Equality is a moral imperative. That's why throughout my career, I have fought to eliminate discrimination against LGBTAmericans. In Illinois, I co-sponsored a fully inclusive bill that prohibited discrimination on the basis of both sexual orientation and gender identity, extending protection to the workplace, housing, and places of public accommodation.

   In the U.S. Senate, I have co-sponsored bills that would equalize tax treatment for same-sex couples and provide benefits to domestic partners of federal employees. And as president, I will place the weight of my administration behind the enactment of the Matthew Shepard Act to outlaw hate crimes and a fully inclusive Employment Non-Discrimination Act to outlaw workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. As your President, I will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws. I personally believe that civil unions represent the best way to secure that equal treatment. But I also believe that the federal government should not stand in the way of states that want to decide on their own how best to pursue equality for gay and lesbian couples -- whether that means a domestic partnership, a civil union, or a civil marriage.

   I support the complete repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) - a position I have held since before arriving in the U.S. Senate. While some say we should repeal only part of the law, I believe we should get rid of that statute altogether. Federal law should not discriminate in any way against gay and lesbian couples, which is precisely what DOMA does. I have also called for us to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and I have worked to improve the Uniting American Families Act so we can afford same-sex couples the same rights and obligations as married couples in our immigration system. The next president must also address the HIV/AIDS epidemic. When it comes to prevention, we do not have to choose between values and science. While abstinence education should be part of any strategy, we also need to use common sense. We should have age-appropriate sex education that includes information about contraception. We should pass the JUSTICE Act to combat infection within our prison population. And we should lift the federal ban on needle exchange, which could dramatically reduce rates of infection among drug users. In addition, local governments can protect public health by distributing contraceptives.

   We also need a president who's willing to confront the stigma - too often tied to homophobia - that continues to surround HIV/AIDS. I confronted this stigma directly in a speech to evangelicals at Rick Warren's Saddleback Church, and will continue to speak out as president. That is where I stand on the major issues of the day. But having the right positions on the issues is only half the battle. The other half is to win broad support for those positions. And winning broad support will require stepping outside our comfort zone. If we want to repeal DOMA, repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and implement fully inclusive laws outlawing hate crimes and discrimination in the workplace, we need to bring the message of LGBT equality to skeptical audiences as well as friendly ones - and that's what I've done throughout my career. I brought this message of inclusiveness to all of America in my keynote address at the 2004 Democratic convention.

   I talked about the need to fight homophobia when I announced my candidacy for President, and I have been talking about LGBT equality to a number of groups during this campaign - from local LGBT activists to rural farmers to parishioners at Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, where Dr. Martin Luther King once preached. Just as important, I have been listening to what all Americans have to say. I will never compromise on my commitment to equal rights for all LGBTAmericans. But neither will I close my ears to the voices of those who still need to be convinced. That is the work we must do to move forward together. It is difficult. It is challenging. And it is necessary. Americans are yearning for leadership that can empower us to reach for what we know is possible. I believe that we can achieve the goal of full equality for the millions of LGBT people in this country. To do that, we need leadership that can appeal to the best parts of the human spirit. Join with me, and I will provide that leadership. Together, we will achieve real equality for all Americans, gay and straight alike."
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/th e_daily_dish/2008/02/obamas-open-let.htm l


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by politicsmatters on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:05:51 PM EST

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Thanks for posting this, PM. I can certainly understand the attachment of the GLBT community to Hillary Clinton, but I'm hopeful that people will learn more about Obama's position on GLBT-related issues.


John McCain is surprisingly bad for this country
by minnesotaryan on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:39:49 PM EST
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Inviting gay haterst to warm up your crowds (none / 0)

and declining to change plans or denounce the hater and hatred said more to anybody watching than a pretty speech, Senator Obama!  As usual...


by itsadryheat on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 12:08:40 AM EST
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hear, hear... (none / 0)

while all my gay friends support barack (and some are even convention delegates of his), i still applaud your devotion and commitment.  we are in this together...


"This is the time for resolve and steady leadership" -- Barack Obama
by bored now on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:06:49 PM EST

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I'm with Hillary all the way.

***A


by adrienne4dean on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:09:28 PM EST

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Nice post. The huge progress in gay rights stands next to the progress in civil rights and women's rights as evidence of what liberal activism can achieve.

Now that its over, i've stopped feeling sadness that Hillary lost and started to feel pride that she ran and that now a woman enters the history books as the candidate who won more votes than any other candidate in history in the primaries.


by liberalj on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:14:20 PM EST

Put the funeral on hold (2.00 / 3)

Thanks, but I'll pass on the sad part. This race isn't over. There is more history for Hillary to write in that book.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:34:36 PM EST
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Re: Thanks for Your Courage (2.00 / 5)

Here's a big hug from a proud mom of a gay man and "co-mom" of his partner. They are both huge supporters of Hillary as is my daughter. I agree with everything you said.

Live your life and don't let the mean people wear you down.


by VegMom on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:17:24 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 6)

when I was pregnant, in 1973, I had insurance but it didn't cover maternity, because maternity isn't a disease, and it's something that can be avoided. I made 1.27 an hour, and I had to pay out of pocket to have maternity care.  Luckily for me I lived near a university hospital, and could pay $350.00 which covered the whole thing. I had to drive many miles, but I could pay for it.  That was the first year that abortion was legal, if you had a psychiatrist that said you had a mental health need. I didn't want one, but I had that option as long as I was willing to submit to a psychological assessment, and then pay for it.  I got no sick leave for my delivery and I could no go back to work, because I didn't earn enough to pay for day care.

When I gave up a job in 1993, I had COBRA, thanks to Bill Clinton.  I had pre-existing conditions (cancer) and had to sweat it out to see if I could get insurance after the 18-month limit was up.

I'll stand by Hillary and I'll continue to be offended by those who tell me to give up my dream right now, since i didn't do it when it would have helped Barack, five months ago.  These calls for unity are insulting and counter-productive. Hillary will be stand up, she always is, but they pundits are putting it all on her. If Barack is a unity guy he'll request a unity ticket, the one 70 percent of Democrats want. If he cites her baggage and says she'll be a drag on his ticket, he won't unity squat.  


Hillary - alternative energy
by anna shane on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:18:23 PM EST

Re: Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 4)

Thanks for coming to stand by Hillary. I'm with Hillary all the way.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:26:26 PM EST
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A small factual correction: Bill Clinton did not start COBRA. It dates back to 1986 and, of course, he was elected in 1992.
http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/newsroom/fscobra .html
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by politicsmatters on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:38:51 PM EST
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COBRA - OBRA confusion (none / 0)

You are correct about COBRA, but I think she may have been referring to a portion of OBRA which Bill did enact that dealt with health care.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 08:49:07 PM EST
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Congrats, grlpatriot. I came out (2.00 / 7)

to my friends and family back in 1975 while I was in the Marine Corps - of course only my best friends in the Corps knew. I have never regretted it for a moment. I actually can't imagine, speaking for myself, living any other way than honestly and openly. Coming out is the single most important thing that gay men and women can do to further the cause of equal rights for GLBT persons. It is this simple act, letting the world know that we are everywhere - sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, Moms, Dads, firemen, doctors, teachers, lawyers, factory workers, on and on and on - that not only furthers the cause of equality, but frees us to live our lives fully and honestly. That is priceless....


Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.
by Rumarhazzit on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:19:44 PM EST

Good on ya! (2.00 / 4)

Kudos for your bravery and your honesty.

I feel your struggle, I sympathize and I empathize.

While I do not know your struggle directly, I know a lot about it.  Being the Small Smart Thoughtful Quiet Boy in school in the 70s I give you one guess what the common label given to me by the bullies who beat me up was.  Three letters and it starts with F...

I did not even know what it meant, but I knew that it was enough to get the whole school laughing at me, and there was not anyone I could even ask for a definition.

The sort of pressure you feel prior to posting your diary is something I am very familiar with.  I thank the bullies of my youth for pushing me to the edge early and often, because as I result I am almost genetically unable to avoid confronting those who would apply such pressure ever again, even for a moment.

That is one of the things that also leads me to be such a cranky jerk sometimes... ;-)

I may still not agree with you on many things, but you have my highest regard at this moment.

Good on you, again.  Never let the bullies win.

-cheers!!

-chris


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:24:43 PM EST

Never let the bullies win (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for your words and sharing your story. I appreciate your understanding. You probably understand the struggle more than you know.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:33:00 PM EST
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Thank you (2.00 / 3)

I really appreciate the diary.

I also share your feelings.  I read the statement you linked from Hillary's website, and was reminded of the journey that you eloquently reflect on in your piece.  Out of curiosity, and in an effort to try to achieve some basic comfort with Barack Obama, I decided to visit his website and see what his statement on Gay Pride was.

I was disappointed - rather than articulate a position, as Hillary did, he simply told Gay people that they should start organizing and hold events for him.  It was more nakedly self-serving than I expected from a polished politician like him.


by bobbank on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:32:04 PM EST

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gee bob, typical comment from you.


by venician on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:39:39 PM EST
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I'll assume that, by typical, you mean, courteous, complimentary to the diarist, and expressing candid observation of fact?

Here is the link I read:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community /post/HQblog/gGB4RV

Now I didn't read any e-mails Obama's campaign may have sent out privately.  I simply read what they had to say publicly on their website about Gay Pride month.

And what they had to say was:

In the coming weeks, members of the LGBT community will be hosting events all across the country to express their support for Senator Obama

That's remarkably arrogant and selfish.  Gay Pride is about us.  Not the Junior Senator, or any other politician for that matter.

By contrast, this is what Hillary had to say:

To each and every LGBT American, I say this: You have done so much to help this country understand your lives by simply being open and honest about who you are and living your lives with dignity.   Thank you for your courage.

That is probably the strongest statement I have ever heard a national politician make on my behalf, to be honest.  That resonates with me and has meaning to me in a way that "please campaign for Barack Obama" never can.

If you're angry with me for pointing out that distinction, I understand.  But take it easy with trolling me - I occassionally push back.


by bobbank on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:53:50 PM EST
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Re: Thank you (none / 0)

I've posted Obama's open letter to the gay community above.  Please give it a read.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:43:53 PM EST
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It's a nice letter.  I find it curious that he doesn't feel comfortable stating this on his website.  As I said, Gay Pride is about us.  Not him.  I find it distasteful that his official statement on Gay Pride was an advertisement telling gays to campaign harder for him.

Also, on a specific policy point, I think his statements about DoMA indicate a certain lack of political maturity on his part.  He doesn't seem to understand why Clinton supported DoMA in the first place, and why, particularly today, it would be inherently dangerous to the gay community if it were repealed.


by bobbank on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 09:09:52 PM EST
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It wouldn't be dangerous to repeal DOMA. It would be the right thing to do.  One of the arguments for passing it was to head off a constitutional amendment defining marriage, which in 2008 has zero chance of passing.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 09:58:42 PM EST
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I guess there is a legitimate debate to be had about that.  My personal feeling is that DoMA provides cover so that this issue can be worked at the state level (where it has the best chance of succeeding and where it constitutionally ought to be worked).  It provides cover because more conservative states and constituencies do not need to feel as threatened by it.

MA was a light in the forest and the state of affairs in CA is precarious at best.  Recent moves in NY are encouraging.  But it is still very fragile.

My point is that progress is being made within the DoMA regime.  I understand your point about a constitutional amendment being virtually unpassable in the short-term.  But we don't know what 2010 will bring.  I would rather we continue progress than risk exposure to a greater threat.


by bobbank on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 11:45:01 PM EST
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Thanks for Diary, I am standing right with you with our great leader Hillary Clinton.
I sent money to her, called for her campaign, bloging for her.
I convinced a lot of people in OH, TX, PA, WV, KY, SD, NH and some other places to vote for her.
And I will continue to do so.
I hope she will win in 2008.
If not, I am convinced that Obama will lose in 2008 and she will run again in 2012 and I will support her again!
Thank you again, comrade!
Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:44:34 PM EST

You just had to throw in that stink bomb (1.00 / 2)

into this positive diary, eh engles?

I am convinced that Obama will lose in 2008 and she will run again in 2012 and I will support her again!

You just confirmed the worst suspicions of the harshest Clinton critic.  You are more than convinced Obama will lose, you will help him lose.

Good for you.  Go McCain!  All the way until my children grow up and leave home!! 50,000,000 childhoods sacrificed to your personal bitter throne, engless!!

A million phantom TRs for ruining patriotgrls moment, for being a bloody GOP troll and a selfish asshole.

Burn in hell.

-chris


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 07:54:49 PM EST
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Hide rated by Scotch (none / 0)

I'm honored.


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:58:44 AM EST
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Your story is not only beautiful & poignant, but an inspiration and a reminder that not all patriot struggles happen in battle, nor often in the company of allies.

Stories like yours should be celebrated in our school text books, along with others who fought their own lonely battle to make this country better than the one they inherited.


McCainuire, The Wrath Of Not Enough Naps.
by catilinus on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:45:33 PM EST

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Wow, I teared up. Thanks. I never really thought of it that way, but as a patriot and someone who loves this country warts and all, at some point we all have to make a stand. And sometimes, we are presented with those moments more than once in a life time.


by grlpatriot on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 06:51:25 PM EST
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You should think about it that way (none / 0)

It takes courage twice to speak out.

Once, to "admit" your own painful story.

Again, to share it so others can benefit themselves.

I did not post that diary on MyBO that I linked in my first comment easily.  It's both a bit embarassing to talk about the sad parts of my life, and doubly to do so in public and risk being ridiculed as some brand of pompous ass looking for sympathy or a pat on the back.

But it is necessary.  More for others than for you or I.

Folks need to know they are not the only ones feeling a given type of suffering.  And they need to know it's OK to be brave.

Bravery has become a dirty word, when it should be recognized as the height of human achievement.

We tell our stories not to be seen as brave, but so others can be brave themselves.

That is how we make Progress.

That is how we can be Progressives.

-best

-chris

(PS - I'm still likely to beat you up in other diaries... ;~)


Motley Moose, Troll Free Blogging
by chrisblask on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 01:55:48 AM EST
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cool diary. Don't really agree with making someone a savior for such a personal issue, (I'd never entrust Obama--or Hillary--with my gay happiness, for example), but nice writeup and as a Californian