Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico

Ben Smith at Politico.com reports that:

June 02, 2008
Categories: Hillary Clinton

Clinton camp converging on New York Tuesday, and shedding staff

Members of Hillary Clinton's advance staff received calls and emails this evening from headquarters summoning them to New York City Tuesday night, and telling them their roles on the campaign are ending, two Clinton staffers tell my colleague Aime Parnes.

The advance staffers -- most of them now in Puerto Rico, South Dakota, and Montana -- are being given the options of going to New York for a final day Tuesday, or going home, the aides said. The move is a sign that the campaign is beginning to shed -- at least -- some of its staff. The advance staff is responsible for arranging the candidate's events around the country.

With the future of her campaign in doubt, Clinton hasn't announced her plans for the final election night of the primary cycle or beyond, but the aides said she would stage her election night event in New York City. Her entourage is currently expected to wake up Tuesday in New York and to arrive in Washington, D.C. Tuesday night.



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by slinkerwink on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:38:20 AM EST

Is this snark? (2.00 / 1)

Seriously,

Is this snark?


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:52:43 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 2)

Well, let's hope they can get jobs elsewhere.

But I'm excited this is wrapping up.  I have a life to get back to....or I did.


by Deadalus on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:38:32 AM EST

Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 2)

Well, if true this could be the prelude to The Big Concession on Wednesday, or it could be a prelude to a campaign suspension (which is practically the same thing).

In any case, there's no need for gophers and envelope stuffers anymore.


You haven't seen impatient until you've seen a monkey waiting for a donut.
by bjones on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:41:20 AM EST

Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 1)

Advance staff?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they only needed if the candidate is going to do a lot of traveling all over the country?

If she was going to put her campaign into "hibernation mode" over the summer and wait for the convention, why would she need a big advance team?

Not that I don't agree that if this is true, it's a sign she may not be planning to be in this campaign much longer, but I'm compelled to play devil's advocate here.


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by mistersite on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:41:26 AM EST

it's an interesting sign, and we'll (2.00 / 1)

know more on Tuesday or Wednesday.


by slinkerwink on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:42:48 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 3)

I figure if she is serious about trying to win the primary, she can't stop traveling.   She has to keep moving like she is in the general, because Obama and McCain sure will be.


by libertyleft on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:43:35 AM EST
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no, you need advance staff for general (2.00 / 1)


by slinkerwink on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:48:10 AM EST
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Re: no, you need advance staff for general (2.00 / 2)

Yeah, I get that.  But letting people go can just be shuffling, if she fired everyone we would know already.


by libertyleft on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:51:10 AM EST
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the only ones left would be the finance team (2.00 / 1)

and the campaign senior staff.


by slinkerwink on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:52:22 AM EST
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A campaign is like a shark (2.00 / 2)

in other words... if it stops moving, it's dead.

Apt.


You haven't seen impatient until you've seen a monkey waiting for a donut.
by bjones on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:54:54 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 4)

If Hillary wants to remain viable until the convention, she's going to have to continue campaigning (in some sort of general election mode), which really requires an advance staff.  

I think this is probably a pretty clear signal that her campaign is coming to a close...


by davisb on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:45:28 AM EST
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You need advncae staff (none / 0)

For the General Elecrion.


by RandyMI on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:16:13 AM EST
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No idea how this works (2.00 / 2)

Is this a sign she is dropping out...or is shuffling staff around just a normal part of moving from primary to general.

And heck, if she does stay in trying to flip supers, are we still in the primary?  Or some kind of Prigeneral?  Please note, internet history, I just coined that word.


by libertyleft on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:42:30 AM EST

you still need advance staff for the (2.00 / 2)

general election.


by slinkerwink on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:43:08 AM EST
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Re: No idea how this works (2.00 / 2)

I prefer Genrimary.  Or Grimary, for short.


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by mistersite on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:46:22 AM EST
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Re: No idea how this works (2.00 / 1)

Grimary I like, but since I have the patent on Prigeneral I'm going to promote its use so I can get some fat royalty payments.


by libertyleft on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:52:25 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 2)

Why is this suprising.  Since all the states are done voting, why would she need a full staff?


by Scotch on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:44:18 AM EST

Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 5)

To, uhm, campaign for the general election?


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:45:06 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 1)

Well, um, there is no full fledged campaigning going on by anyone for the general now.  Do you really think that she is moving into full force campaigning before the vote in August?  She knows her chances.  Even if she takes it to Denver, the decision won't be made until then.


by Scotch on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:48:08 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 6)

There isn't? Why has Obama been in Florida and Michigan and the SouthWest? Why is he appearing in Minneapolis on Tuesday? Why has McCain been flying around to tour his old stomping grounds?

I'll tell you why. Because the general election started two weeks ago.


by mikeplugh on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:52:32 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (none / 0)

Yep.  McCain has known for some time now who his opponent will be.

And frankly, so has Clinton, the superdelegates, the DNC, and Obama.

Everything else has been Kabuki theatre.


You haven't seen impatient until you've seen a monkey waiting for a donut.
by bjones on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:40:57 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 5)

First, both Obama and McCain are now and will be campaigning for the general election all summer.  While their travel probably won't be as frenetic as it is now, they'll certainly be doing events across the country.

Second, I'd think that a candidate who hadn't been campaigning all summer would be even less attractive to superdelegates; she'd have spent the summer not getting voters rallied around her, etc., and her opponent would have a full summer's worth of general-election campaigning, including battling over narratives, under his belt.


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by mistersite on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:53:01 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 2)

Neither Barack Obama nor John McCain have shed their advance staff.


by davisb on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:54:43 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 2)

Well, good luck to any candidate who thinks they can campaign across a country of fifty states, and three hundred million people, in two months.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:55:44 AM EST
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Or 57 states... (1.00 / 3)

We have any least one candidate who thinks he has visited 57 states!

WOW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtI ws


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Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%
by architek on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:02:05 AM EST
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Here, Ark, I think you need this, buddy... (2.00 / 2)

>


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:06:53 AM EST
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Re: Here, Ark, I think you need this, buddy... (2.00 / 1)

Ah yes, the official high school graduation song of every class of '98.  -Sniff-


by rfahey22 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:12:05 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 2)

As suggested above, she should be campaigning more than Obama nationwide right now, not less, if this was to keep going (if only to impress the superdelegates).


by rfahey22 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:01:45 AM EST
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I don't think she needs to impress them like THAT. (1.33 / 3)

Its Obama who tries to project the illusion of inevitability and infallibility.

I think its a mark of insecurity.

Lets face it, Hillary's campaigning now is going to be behind the scenes.

Her getting the nomination is clearly contingent on other things than flying around to small towns and trying to look important and Presidential.

Just like actually being President for either candidate would be.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%
by architek on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:06:45 AM EST
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Re: I don't think she needs to (2.00 / 1)

Well, I think a lot of people point to Kerry's lack of campaigning in August as the reason he lost, because that's when the swiftboaters attacked.  More campaigning is better than less, all other things being equal.  And, her argument would be that she's more electable - not doing anything for months isn't going to help in that department.


by rfahey22 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:10:24 AM EST
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Re: I don't think she needs to impress them (none / 0)

So it's better for a candidate to work behind the scenes than out in front?

I thought Hillary was the candidate of THE PEOPLE(tm)


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by Cochrane on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:13:58 AM EST
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ugh (none / 0)

It's been 20 years since anyone rightfully thought that you stop campaigning after the primaries. Once upon a time, the general election began on Labor Day. Not anymore.


by RandyMI on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:18:31 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 1)

Huh. We'll just have to wait and see. Christ Almighty, it's been six months already, we can wait a few more days.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:44:44 AM EST

Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 5)

Speak for yourself! The Democratic party cannot afford to wait for Tuesday. Those 36 hours will surely mean doom in November! Drop out now, Hillary!

(And don't even get me started on if she stays in until Wednesday...suffice it to say, I'm moving to Canada, man!!)


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:50:04 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 4)

If she stays in until Friday, does that mean you move to the Moon?


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by mistersite on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:53:48 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (none / 0)

No, nothing like that.

Did you ever read the ending to 'On the Beach'?


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:13:27 AM EST
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Have fun on the north pole then nt. (none / 0)


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by Student Guy on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:17:44 AM EST
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Re: Have fun on the north pole then nt. (2.00 / 1)

that's not the end.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:23:04 AM EST
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hey - we do have universal health care! (2.00 / 1)

;)


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:20:08 AM EST
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Re: hey - we do have universal health care! (2.00 / 2)

yes, but you also have the wendigo, so it's a trade-off. I'll take my chances, though. I don't want to be part of an America in which Clinton doesn't drop out by Tuesday. Our Founding Fathers didn't fight the Civil War in 1812 for something like that to happen.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:25:56 AM EST
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ok - if she doesnt drop out by tuesday.... (2.00 / 1)

we also have legalized gay marriage.


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:29:24 AM EST
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Re: ok - if she doesnt drop out by tuesday.... (2.00 / 1)

Yes, but we have Lee Greenwood, so there.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:30:57 AM EST
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Re: ok - if she doesnt drop out by tuesday.... (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, but you also have Rush.


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by mistersite on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:34:25 AM EST
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Re: ok - if she doesnt drop out by tuesday.... (none / 0)

and celine dion.  but we also have arcade fire!


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:35:45 AM EST
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Re: ok - if she doesnt drop out by tuesday.... (none / 0)

And ketchup potato chips. I've contemplated moving across the border just for those, sometimes.

(The dill pickle ones, not so much.)


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by ipsos on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:40:56 AM EST
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Re: hey - we do have universal health care! (2.00 / 1)

Okay, that was funny.


by skohayes on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 07:46:56 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (none / 0)

Advance has been on the chopping block for a while now.  It's expensive and mostly useless.

Especially without the need to manage huge campaign events, there is no need for the costly advance staff.

This is just a part of the transition into the next phase of the campaign, and certainly no cause for alarm.


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by hornplayer on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:45:08 AM EST

Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 5)

There's really no campaign without campaign events, and there's no campaign events without an advance staff...


by davisb on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:46:44 AM EST
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exactly. This isn't spinnable. (2.00 / 4)

You need advance staff for the primary AND the general election.


by slinkerwink on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:49:24 AM EST
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Re: exactly. This isn't spinnable. (2.00 / 3)

Dude, if there's one thing I've learned from this primary, you can spin anything and someone'll believe it.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:21:00 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (none / 0)

Do not look behind that curtain...pay no attention to the man there!


by IowaMike on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:18:26 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 6)

Also, if this is something customary, then there should be reports of Obama's camp doing the same thing.

I suspect that there will not be news of a reciprocal trimming of his staff...


You haven't seen impatient until you've seen a monkey waiting for a donut.
by bjones on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:49:51 AM EST

Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 1)

Exactly. He's already been to the SW and to both Michigan and Florida. He has more trips scheduled for the upcoming weeks and let's face it, as I said earlier in this thread, the general election started 2 weeks ago.


by mikeplugh on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:54:10 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 1)

Uh, not exactly cutting staff.

Obama Organizing Fellows?  We're in the big leagues now.


by nwgates on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:55:01 AM EST
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We are very impressed... (none / 0)

...


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%
by architek on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:07:53 AM EST
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Re: We are very impressed... (2.00 / 2)

I was very impressed myself when I first heard about the fellowship program, architek.

For example, did you know that these young people will be working for the Dem nominee all summer, even if that nominee isn't Barack Obama?

That speaks VOLUMES about Obama's desire for party unity.

Say, does Hillary Clinton have a program like that?


You haven't seen impatient until you've seen a monkey waiting for a donut.
by bjones on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:20:19 AM EST
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You probably should be (2.00 / 1)

Considering Obama's victory over Clinton in the primary was almost entirely due to out-organizing her, you shouldn't belittle the GE organizational campaign.


by elrod on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:20:27 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (none / 0)

Clearly Obama is keeping his campaign staff just to curry favor with Iowa & New Hampshire.


From a Hillary supporter: We laughed as that became our mantra - "Barack can't win!"..... ....."he can go to hell and i'll pay for his way there."
by Cochrane on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:14:44 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let (2.00 / 4)

If she can't afford to campaign vigorously against John McCain right now then she is in no position to tell anybody she should be the nominee.

We cannot concede a month or three of campaigning so she can get her damned finances in order.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:57:37 AM EST

Concern trolling? (2.00 / 1)

Ive been warned to be on the lookout for that kind of behavior...

;)


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%
by architek on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:08:43 AM EST
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Re: Concern trolling? (1.00 / 0)


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:21:48 AM EST
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If this is indeed true than it looks (2.00 / 3)

like Hillary may indeed be conceding soon.


by puma on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:00:43 AM EST

Let's be serious. (2.00 / 3)

If I have a company and I need to reach 17,000,000 people, and then I get a big account where I'm going to need to reach 60,000,000+, do I a) hire on, readjust, and beef up my support staff or b) lay everyone off.

Enough with the teeth-gnashing- it's over.  Clinton knows.  Obama knows.  And we know for sure on Tuesday night.

Sitting around saying "this is normal, no cause for alarm" is akin to saying "pay no attention to the water, the Titanic is unsinkable!".

It's over.


John McCain wants to stay in Iraq.
by ihaveseenenough on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:11:43 AM EST

Rec This! (2.00 / 1)


by IowaMike on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:15:59 AM EST

Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (2.00 / 1)

The networks will call MT and S. Dakota right after the polls close. Clinton will concede in NY before Obama enters the Stage at Excel Center.

When the GOP uses The Center for their Convention it will already be known as "the place where Obama gave his  famous victory speech back in June"


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by nogo postal on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:32:38 AM EST

Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (none / 0)

It's little news stories and asides like this report that give the truest picture of what's happening in the primary.  Just follow the money and the organizational shakeups-- they almost always tell the tale.  Like personal loans to keep a campaign viable, and reports of drama and fingerpointing between senior staffers.

I think one senior Clinton staffer was reported to be looking for a book deal already, although that may be false.


You haven't seen impatient until you've seen a monkey waiting for a donut.
by bjones on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:35:51 AM EST

How late is it? (none / 0)

So late that my first reaction to slinkerwink's diary title was...

"Why is Politico firing Clinton's staffers?"

I think it's time to shut down the laptop, do one more preventative diaper change on the little guy, and see if he'll let me sleep for a few hours!


Ceci n'est pas une <<snark>>
by ipsos on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:42:18 AM EST

Re: How late is it? (none / 0)

I thought the same thing.  I spend too much time here.


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 02:12:46 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (none / 0)

Link?


Finding God in a Dog
by maxomai on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:48:29 AM EST

Nevermind.... (none / 0)

Here it is.


Finding God in a Dog
by maxomai on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 01:54:18 AM EST
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Re: Clinton Staff To Be Let Go--From Politico (none / 0)

actually, some positions in the campaign weren't supposed to go on passed June 3. Im not sure if this is the case for these positions, but some positions say interns, the last date of anywork is June 3. After that they have to hit the highway. [at least according to the application]


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by alyssa chaos on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 02:05:04 AM EST


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