I didn't love Hillary until this primary but I always planned to vote for her and she was my choice all along.

Thats different from saying I have never been proud of the clinton legacy until this election which is a much more damning statment and indicates real dissatisfaction and shame...And isn't my position BTW.

Oh bullshit.

She said "For the first time in my adult life, I'm really proud of my country"...

Really proud... Really proud that, after no doubt experiencing both racism and sexism, she was experiencing America at her best... supporting a black man for President...

That doesn't mean she had not been proud before and if you don't believe that, you have bought the Republican bullcrap, hook, line, and sinker....

She was saying that she had never been proud of her country until it decided to elect her husband.  It was intended to amplify her husband and those supporting him at the expense of America.  It also was stated in her adult life so that she was proud of America as a child but that she ceased to be proud of it in the inbetween times.

Horsecrap.

Michelle's meaning was quite clear.  Your parsing of it is just as pathetic as the Hannitized attempts that the diarist correctly stated were made by Dan Abrams.

I understand your own words very well.

"those supporting him at the expense of America"

In other, more honest words: "Obama is a failure and will destroy the country, all those who support him are traitors indulging in Cult Rituals who wish to burn out cities and kill our babies."

But thanks for coming by and making the GOP case like a good radioshow host.  Your McPoints are waiting back at gop.com.   You need to practice your insincerity, though, before you can get the really good prizes.

-chris

So we should use the "context" of the message for him, but not for her?  Hmmmmmm.

Michele's quote. was in this context:

She was talking about hope this election voter turnout was higher than 20% and how everyone seemed to be focused on real issues.  There was very little of the petty nonsense that is creeping back into the discourse these days.  In that context she said "for the first time in my adult life I'm REALLY proud of my country"  She was not talking about America in general but the political process in America.

I have not been proud of the American political process in my adult life either.   This year I am really proud that a Woman and African American were the front runners on the Democratic side.
She fumbled her words but if you listen to the whole speech and not just one sentence you would understand what she was saying.  

with it's (at the time) famously corrupt cops. Walking home from the supermarket with my mother, I've had a bored policeman take a bag of groceries from me and dump it on the ground, "looking for drugs".

My parents sent me to a magnet school, rather than the local hellhole. I had to walk through a working class white neighborhood to get there. American flags everywhere, big ones little ones, 3 or 4 on some homes. On more than one occasion I had to run a gauntlet of these patriots, on my way to school. To this day, a house draped with those cheap 1' flags creeps me out on some level.

My parents taught me that education = money, and that you need money in America. That teaching, coupled with the computer revolution, propelled me through college and firmly into the ranks of the upper middle class.

When you spend money, people kiss your ass, and I have money to spend. When you're the boss, people treat you with respect, and I oversee a good-size team. At my favorite restaurant, if a waiter were to do the "ignore table 5" thing, he'd be fired before the night was out. That place values my business.

The older I get, the more I do see America's good points, specifically with it's design re: the Constitution, but also with the grit and resilience of it's people. Of all colors. But it wasn't until I ceased to be a target of these people, that I had the space and the grace to begin to appreciate them.

When some pretty blond beer millionaire says she's always been proud of America, my first thought is "Wow, what a shock!". When I read about said heiress using her patriotism as a bludgeon, it makes me faintly ill. When I see that the target of this bludgeon actually exemplifies everything that IS GOOD about America - rewarded hard work and persistence - it makes me want to scream.

And ironically enough, it makes me wonder exactly how much Cindy McCain understands the America she so professes to love, that she can't even fathom another perspective.

Bleh.

was making.

Taken out of context those words could be as misused as Michelle Obama's have been.  This is just the kind of crap that we need to vet out of the system.

As George Carlin said: "There are no bad words.  There are bad thoughts, there are bad intentions, and words!"

Accepting taking words out of context is a mug's game.

I agree, but I wish you would grant Rev. Wright--who served in the military for 6 years--the same deference. I understand that you're value patriotism, but I think you've been a little too harsh in your reaction to Rev. Wright's sermons.

Double standard. As usual I like the diary.