Its a testament to her effectiveness as an advocate for Hillary Rodham Clinton.

She moved here from that other site and immediately had an impact in her advocacy for Clinton.

Even though she hasn't blogged here for sometime , there is still a diary about her almost on a daily basis .

Some Obama supporters just can't get enough of her.

The attraction is almost fatal lol.

I agree to that..

How I can serve penance I don't know...

Thanks AHiddenSaint for getting me back on the handle, I flew way off into loony land when reading the previous diary.  I am going to go remove the rec from it now.

I apologize for my idiotic actions.

Thank you for saying what needs to be said.

Unity is a two-way street.  That doesn't change because one candidate won and one didn't.

I apologize if I offended people by posting my diary this evening about Alegre's comments.

Here's what I've learned so far:

1) There are apparently people who have deeper issues with Alegre than I do. I just didn't like what she wrote.

2) Fewer people read Hillary's Bloggers than I thought, so it probably wasn't worth bringing undue attention to Alegre's anti-Democrat diary.

3) My ill-conceived attempt at criticizing bloggers who sow division within the party has led to greater division within this community. Whoops.

For these reasons, I'm going to delete my diary. Anyone having conversations over there better finish them up in the next few minutes.

Again, sorry to those who were offended by what I wrote and/or the comments it provoked.

I'll go one further: I won't even post about not posting about other bloggers. I may post about not posting about not posting about other bloggers, though.

Oh, and if we can get a post denouncing my plans to not post about not posting about other bloggers, I'm pretty sure we'd be able to rip a hole in the very fabric of space and time.

but I don't think it's off limits.

When the diarist in question posts articles on other sites, they are subject to analysis, discussion, and (yes) scrutiny as would any other article or opinion piece on any other blog or news site.

Unity does not mean that we no longer call bullsh*t by its real name: bullsh*t

on CNN last night.  He pointed out that a lot of the smears against Barack Obama that they were having to deal with were coming from (gasp) certain Democratic bloggers!  In fact, he named a couple, Larry Johnson at NoQuarter being one.  Larry, of course, has been the tip of the spear for the "Whitey" smear.

All this kumbaya is just horseshit if we don't recognize that there are some recalcitrant assholes out there that are more than just mad because their candidate lost.  They are damaging the Democratic nominee's chances for November, and at this point, it's clear, they are doing it on purpose.  "Coming together" and "unity" are all fine and dandy, but let's not pretend everything is reparable, because it's not.

Don't post about posting about past bloggers?

Don't post about posting about posting about past blogger?

How about we champion the good bloggers and lay flaming bags of poop at the feet of the bad ones?

Stop talking about ourselves, other blogs, other bloggers? Interesting concept but a tad too puritanical for my tastes.

Are you asking that we stop mentioning people who aren't here? The bloggers who had 2 and 3 diaries a day during the primaries and have dropped this community like a hot coal now? Haven't been mentioning them. ;-)

Those responsible for the sacking have been sacked.

It's hard to focus when diaries like

HUGE! LARRY SINCLAIR TAPE

clutter the view.

I agree.

However, I do think it's worthwhile to have diaries letting people know about smears and such that are being promoted elsewhere in the blogosphere.  These may involve diaries and posters by people who have diaried and posted here. However, the emphasis should be on what is being said, not on who said it.

That's a bit idiotic when said 'past bloggers' have their own websites and are in fact not past blogging.

 I frankly think these folks should be exposed and embarassed for being the two faced hacks that they are.

How do we address the current crop of websites by people who are historically good Democrats, but who are urging things like a McCain/Hillary candidacy, trying to unseat John Kerry in Mass, leaving the party, etc.?  And of course some of the really frightening stuff on one particularly noxious site.

Are these sites just arenas for frustrated non-Obama-supporting Democrats who are blowing off steam, and do they really have some effect on who wins the GE?  I have no idea if they need to be ignored or dealt with loudly in some way, but the rage and sadness and ill-will that fills them, I think is bound to spill over into the election in some way.

Unfortunately, the ones I have looked at are either the property of many of the former bloggers on this site who have left, or these guys do a lot of contributing to them.  I agree about calling out people individually, but I also think (and please correct me if this is wrong) that they will have some effect on this election.

Pro-Hillary bloggers and supporters received wholly inappropriate and undeserved shit from pro-Obama bloggers, supporters and esp on DailyKos.  

Your didatic pontification on how we need to get over it, move and get unified is an yet-another indication of this prevalent, dismissive attitude and behavior.

There are always consequences for inappropriate actions an behaviors -- at least, responsible and respectful adults know this all too well, while some of the more juvenile minds can't comprehend beyond their narcissism.

All isn't well, because it wasn't handled well, and it isn't ending well.

Nuts.

Here is what we can agree on : A John McCain president would be an absolute disaster.I think about how close (5-4) that Supreme Court decision was yesterday and what a moral disaster the ruling could have been. I don't think you are going to be able to stop our internecine wars by fiat, but if we remember this fact, we will act as one powerful united front despite our past resentments and perhaps some current bickering.  

Today we are all Dems again and together we bring back focus on the issue. John McCain is the one we are fighting not Hillary Clinton and not her bloggers. We must come together.

Certain diarists were on the rec list every day, sometimes with up to three diaries on there at once.  These were not all lovey dovey positive diaries.

I think it is perfectly valid for people still to be talking about those diarists.  If the community didn't want the diaries to make such a huge and lasting impact on people it shouldn't have recced them every single day regardless of content.

Pledge?  How about Hell to the N-O?

As long as morons like this and this continue to infect the earth, the argument and the battle will continue.  They need to be stopped.