Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the Top - they should endorse Before Tues

by coonbug, Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:37:10 PM EST

Super delegates should weigh in BEFORE Tuesday's primary in Montana and South Dakota.

The polls are showing Barack Obama currently leading in those two states; but even if he were to tie with Hillary, he would only get around 15 delegates total.  This means he needs at least 33 super delegates to put him over the top.

In the interest of UNITY, at least 30-35 super delegates need to endorse Barack Obama by tomorrow night.  This would allow the STATES to be ones pushing Obama over the required 2118 DNC rules count for the nomination.

Surely out of about 200 undeclared supers, 30-35 are willing to allow the States of South Dakota and Montana push Obama to the Democratic nomination?

These people would not only be helping Obama win, they would 'put excitement' in the states of South Dakota and Montana -- we normally do not win these States during a general election -- perhaps doing this would give them reason to vote Democrat in November.

So, come on supers -- let the States be the ones to be reported as having handed Barack Obama the nomination -- not the super delegates!!!




Tags: super delegates, montana, south dakota, barack obama (all tags)

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Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (2.00 / 1)

if 35 superdelegates endorse Obama in one day after Clinton's blowout victory , that would definitely foster unity.

A lot of folks will be fit to be tied , ya know.

bad idea


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by lori on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:44:05 PM EST

Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (2.00 / 1)

I seem to recall Hillary telling several reporters that even "pledged delegates" may switch and having no qualms about relying on supers to overturn the majority leader.

It's time we stop coddling infantile sore losers.


by Deadalus on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:49:18 PM EST
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Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (none / 0)

I seem to recall Hillary telling several reporters that even "pledged delegates" may switch and having no qualms about relying on supers to overturn the majority leader.

It's time we stop coddling infantile sore losers.


by Deadalus on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:50:53 PM EST
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Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (none / 0)

that really doesn't have much to do with what I said


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by lori on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:58:45 PM EST
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I stopped caring (none / 0)

a long time ago.

The superdelegates should've endorsed the day after Obama's blowout victories

pick one.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:53:54 PM EST
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Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (2.00 / 2)

You clearly arn't interested in unity. Everything offends Clinton supporters these days. Your candidate can't go around trying to undermine our nominee (saying he's hijacked delegates, erroneously claiming a popular vote lead), and expect Obama to wait for her to concede.

Obama has not pushed her out, though he could have. Obama has not called on her to concede. He has not declared victory. He compromised on FL and MI. He's called Clinton time and time again to congratulate her on her wins. In every election night speech he's given, he's recognized Clinton and her supporters, and congratulated her if she won a contest.

Obama has done a whole lot for unity, but you can't expect him not to try and win.


by BlueGAinDC on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 11:19:07 PM EST
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Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (none / 0)

You clearly arn't interested in unity

- I would leave you to determine how you came to that conclusion with the few words I wrote would . I doubt any reasonable reading of what i wrote would elicit such a conclusion or interpretation.

How 35 superdelegates endorsing Obama on Monday the day after Clinton won a blow out victory fosters Unity is something that would make the record books if it happens


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 11:28:55 PM EST
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Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (none / 0)

Your sarcasm suggested that you would feel somehow offended if Obama were to announce supers tomorrow.

That's extremely petty. First of all, what do superdelegate endorsements have to do with primary victories? A lot of people took offense to the Edwards endorsement timing, and I was pretty shocked. This is a hard fought campaign. With all the questionable tactics that have gotten used (i.e., Commander in chief threshold), this is the least harmful. Of course it was timed to take the focus off Clinton's big win. But thats how a campaign works. Every time a candidate wins the other one is supposed to stop trying for a day?

But Edwards was one thing. Clinton deserves a day to bask in her PR win? I'm all for unity and being respectful to Clinton and her supporters duing this time, but y'all have to understand that this is hard on us too. Sure, our candidate is winning. But I see members of my own family saying they can't vote for Obama, liberals who have voted Dem all their life, questioning Obama's patriotism, attacking him as sexist, and throwing those disgusting smear emails at me. As someone who has had a lot of faith in Obama since the beginning, it's hard to see it.

I didn't want Obama to force Clinton out of the race. I didn't want this to get as ugly as it could have gotten. But now, Obama has to think about the GE. He wants to go out with a bang, he wants the voters to put him over the top. And if he has supers ready to endorse, he should let them make their announcements.

Obama has been more than gracious throughout his campaign. His supporters have gotten angry, and its gotten dirty here and elsewhere. But while we want unity, y'all have to help us out. Calling Obama out for everything he does (or does not do- "hijack" delegates) is not the way to go.


by BlueGAinDC on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 02:47:10 AM EST
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Not sure if that matters at this point (none / 0)

If that happened after PA or TX/OH then it would be a slap in the face. But by tomorrow morning the story will be the imminent end of the primary season, with MT and SD ending it. Since Puerto Rico has no say in the general election, there is relatively little the media can say about Clinton's win there. It was expected and it happened.

The superdelegates are probably more interested in ending the primary at this point than worrying about stepping on the Puerto Rico afterglow.


by elrod on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:01:59 AM EST
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i think they would have already. (none / 0)

some are waiting until the primaries are OVER.


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by canadian gal on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:45:50 PM EST

Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (2.00 / 1)

If I was a Hillary superdel I would switch my endorsement to Obama on Monday, as a sign of unity and a rejection of the behavior of the protesters at the rules meeting.  


by libertyleft on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:46:13 PM EST

There are a handful (2.00 / 1)

of New York supers ready to do that I'm told.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:54:32 PM EST
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Re: There are a handful (2.00 / 0)

That will be a nice symbolic (and not so symbolic given how close he is) victory.


by libertyleft on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:56:22 PM EST
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Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over (none / 0)

I don't care if MOST of them wait till after JUNE 3rd -- just so long as enough get him close enough that Montana and South Dakota are the ones PUSHING HIM OVER THE TOP!!!!

It's GREAT PR.  Media would be FORCED to admit it was the VOTERS that DECIDED this - not supers.


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by coonbug on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:48:55 PM EST

Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (none / 0)

I was talking to a friend the other day and we joked about how much we'd be asking if we were one of the last supers.  I'd need season tickets to Bears games at least.


by Xris on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:50:13 PM EST

Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (none / 0)

The problem with this would be making it seem natural and not staged...


by theMill on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:50:22 PM EST

Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the T (2.00 / 0)

There isn't anything wrong with it looking staged, imo.  The supers are free to endorse whenever they want, if they want to do it with others on a certain date to help end the race that is perfectly fair.


by libertyleft on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:58:40 PM EST
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Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over the Top (none / 0)

We'll see what happens on Monday. I think 27-29 would do it.


It's time to restore balance and fairness to our economy,... It's time to stop giving tax cuts to corporations that ship jobs overseas... - Barack Obama
by Lefty Coaster on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:50:51 PM EST

Monday should be interesting. (none / 0)

Conventional wisdom seems to be that a couple dozen will endorse.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:55:13 PM EST

Re: Supers Should Let States Push Obama Over (2.00 / 1)

Yes - you are right - every one of the delegate LEGALLY could change their vote at the Convention -- but until something terribly goes wrong with Obama -- he WILL BE THE NOMINEE.  If you haven't figured that out by now - you never will.

Doing this the way I suggested will be a good POLITICAL move for the Democrats as a whole - the media would be FORCED to report that it was the VOTERS that put him over -- not the supers.


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by coonbug on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 10:56:41 PM EST

RE (none / 0)

the supers cannot cast their votes until the convention and are free to change anytime. I expect Hillary will "suspend" her campaign but not end it entirely then if Obama's implodes this summer the supers can say SAVE US HILLARY!


by rossinatl on Sun Jun 01, 2008 at 11:25:55 PM EST

No need to "suspend" (2.00 / 0)

If Obama implodes or worse then she can get back into the campaign - even if she concedes and endorses and campaigns for Obama.

An implosion for Obama would be unambiguous. Not some random supporter in the background getting in trouble or saying something idiotic. An implosion would be if the Larry Sinclair story were true: in other words, live boy or dead girl. An implosion would be obvious, and would cause all the superdelegates to march en masse away from him. There's no need to hedge on that possibility by "suspending" her campaign. The party needs her to make a vigorous case for Obama as the nominee.


by elrod on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:05:44 AM EST
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The Supers (2.00 / 0)

Enough of them should come out tomorrow and Tuesday(before the actual results of the 2 contests are known) that combined with Tuesdays' final results will put Obama over the top by 1 or 2 delegates.  


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:49:38 AM EST


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