MyDD :: Buyer's Remorse Setting In

Buyer's Remorse Setting In

by elrod, Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:24:21 PM EST

In a long campaign season it makes sense that many voters would change their minds after they had a chance to cast their votes. New information arises that causes voters who cat their ballots months ago to reappraise their decision and think through how they'd do it this time if they could vote all over again. And while voters don't get a second chance in a primary, the superdelegates were designed to capture that buyer's remorse and correct a ship set on a wrong course.

Well, it looks like our favorite pollster - SUSA - actually asked one of the biggest states so far - the biggest, in fact - if voters there would select the same candidate they picked last time. And sure enough, these big state voters have buyer's remorse. They'd go differently after all they've learned in this contentious primary.

Yes, that's right, if California could do it all over again, they'd vote Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton.

http://cbs5.com/politics/poll.clinton.ob ama.2.720136.html

Since Super Tuesday, we've had Reverend Wright, Bittergate, losses in OH, TX and PA, and Obama slipping up in debates. Yet, for all that stuff, Californians would change their vote and give it to Obama by a 6-point margin - 49-43 this time. Note that SUSA nailed California perfectly last time, so they understand California demographics.

There's a reason that since Super Tuesday, Barack Obama has reduced his superdelegate deficit from 91 to zero. Superdelegates, who are supposed to be the rudder against the unwieldy candidate, have decided day after day that Obama is the best candidate for the Democratic Party. And now voters in the biggest state of all have reassessed their views and agreed with the superdelegates: Obama's the right candidate for the Democratic nomination.

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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (1.33 / 3)

Hm, maybe. But then again, "our favorite pollster" was off by double digits in NC and IN. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if they gimped up CA this time, too.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:28:53 PM EST

Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (2.00 / 1)

It's interesting. The crosstabs show that the biggest shift was among Asian Americans. It seems that aren't very impressed with Hillary's blue-collar white schtick. Note that his margin among blacks and Hispanics didn't budge and his share of white voters improved, but not dramatically.

Also note the "misremembering" quotient, which suggests that Californians accept Obama as the nominee.

by elrod on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:35:27 PM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (2.00 / 2)

Very interesting about the Asian Americans, actually. They favored her 3- or 4-1 on Super Tuesday.

Also note the "misremembering" quotient, which suggests that Californians accept Obama as the nominee.

I think most people, realistically, have accepted him as the nominee.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:41:13 PM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

They may accept him as "nominee", but not as President.

by stefystef on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:59:01 PM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

Well, they'll have to eventually.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:01:24 AM EST
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Unless (none / 0)

you're a Republican.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:24:42 AM EST
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Don't know about the poll's accuracy. (2.00 / 2)

But I just moved from CA and most of the people I know there vote early. Traffic is an issue so it's easier just to mail in an absentee ballot.

Me, I always liked to vote in person but I was the exception among my friends.

Anyway, my point if I have one, is that Clinton was the presumptive nominee at the time everyone mailed in their ballots and Obama was a nobody. People liked him but they thought he had no chance. I suspect there was some buyers remorse among the early voters for sure.

Californians fit really well into Obama's demographic. Everybody is young there, even old people are young.

That One is the Right One for 2008.

by GFORD on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:40:08 PM EST
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Re: Don't know about the poll's accuracy. (2.00 / 1)

I wouldn't really be at all surprised if SUSA was correct on this. I'm just pissed at them right now.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:42:36 PM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

So if we're accepting polls as pure fact now, Hillary has received more Democratic votes in the primaries, correct?

by therealdeal on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:49:06 PM EST

Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (2.00 / 1)

"Hillary has received more Democratic votes in the primaries, correct?"

Hmmm. Possibly. Your theory is a bit undermined by the fact that Obama crushed her in almost every caucus.

You see: caucuses tend to have only democrats...in fact, they tend to have only the most committed democrats.

So...you're argument is stupid.

by Democratic Unity on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:06:58 AM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

That's interesting because most of the Asians I know (all New Yorkers) are NOT impressed with Obama and will support Hillary.

Many of them said they won't vote in November because they aren't interested in Obama. They don't know him and they don't feel he will do anything for the Asian community.

I think the Asian community they are talking about in CA is part of the academic community out there.

by stefystef on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:58:29 PM EST

Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

My God. Have we become the racially divided party or what. May be that is why our party shrunk under Bill.

by IowaMike on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:12:08 AM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (2.00 / 1)

Well, I'm glad to have found someone that can speak for a community as diverse, spread out, and some 15-16 million strong as the Asian-American community.

Tell us more about what they're all feeling.

Serious question- Is This Snark?

by ragekage on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:13:17 AM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

Funny, all my Asian friends are Obama supporters. oh well.

by poserM on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:30:05 AM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

Huh? I'm trying to link your comment to the diary somehow, but...what ARE you talking about?

by haystax calhoun on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:32:09 AM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (2.00 / 1)

17% of respondents were Asian/Other. They're all members of the academic community?

A better explanation is that Hillary's "hard-working Americans, white Americans" strategy has turned off non-white Americans.

by elrod on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:47:11 AM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (2.00 / 1)

yes but do any votes actually even count besides white illiterate racist inbread voters from rust belt states?

I mean...aren't they the folks who deserve to decide our primary?

by Democratic Unity on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:09:28 AM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

You are telling the truth!

Asian Americans are all reading your MyDD comment and they are all behind you. They hate that black guy Obama and they all want to support Hillary.

Thanks for the info. You are totally not a horrible person.

by Democratic Unity on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:08:16 AM EST
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Except most Asian I know (2.00 / 1)

also in New York, will support whoever the hell the Democratic nominee is.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:26:26 AM EST
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Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

I am Indian American and my family, friends, church members love Obama. He was on the front page in the newspaper over there when he won in Iowa.

I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson

by obamaovermccain on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:34:44 AM EST

Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

This is just the kind of diary that is designed to keep the disunity within our party as intense and deep as possible.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:42:13 AM EST

Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (none / 0)

Good angle you found there. Kind of a backdoor benefit to Obama in running an extended primary campaign. A new face needs time to expose and California, my adopted state (via Pitt., PA), was not quite up to speed. Now you see that Cali has been paying attention and the exposure is clear enough.

McCain's advisors must be like "any press is good press, just ad-lib".

by haystax calhoun on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:42:15 AM EST

Wrong again. (none / 0)

I'm in California, and I can assure you Obama would lose by an evwen bigger margin than he did in February.

But keep spinning misinformation.

by myiq2xu on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:48:11 AM EST

Re: Wrong again. (2.00 / 1)

I'm in Los Angeles and he's got this city in his pocket. I would say the same for San Francisco.

by venician on Sat May 10, 2008 at 12:52:41 AM EST
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Whereabouts in L.A.? (none / 0)

I'm in Santa Monica.

John McCain wants you to be poor!

by nklein on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:32:09 AM EST
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Re: Whereabouts in L.A.? (none / 0)

Venice

by venician on Sat May 10, 2008 at 11:40:12 AM EST
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Re: Wrong again. (none / 0)

Argument by anecdote.

by elrod on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:40:25 AM EST
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Why can't Hillary close the deal? (none / 0)

wow!

Hillary can't even close the deal with a state she won!

Millions of Californians are demanding their money back!!

Yikes.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 10, 2008 at 03:36:01 AM EST

Re: Buyer's Remorse Setting In (2.00 / 1)

It doesn't surprise me at all. The more people that listen to Obama the better he does.

by Politicalslave on Sat May 10, 2008 at 04:51:33 AM EST

Thanks for moving the primary up. (none / 0)

I want to personally thank the village idiots who moved up the California Primary so that we could get more say in selecting the nominee. Way to go. We are still having a vote on June so we wasted the money in Feb, and once again had ZERO say in the process.

Consider if we hadn't, California would have been the delegate prize that everyone would be courting. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!.

At least we didnt move it up so far that our delegates were tossed.

thats something anyway

"You might well think that. I couldn't possibly comment"

by xenontab on Sat May 10, 2008 at 01:31:43 PM EST

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