Clinton being Crucified ala Al Gore

2000
All Al Gore wanted to do was count the FL votes.  
To find out who won the presidential election.

On cable news, the mantra was "STOP, GORE!  
You are HURTING THE COUNTRY." and "Americans just want
to move on."

"People on the street" were interviewed, all saying the same
thing:  "Americans just want to move on."

The election was OVER.  
Why did Gore want to keep dragging this on.  It was really
hurting the country.

We were all lulled into resignation.  
The democratic party took the easy route, sighed, and gave up.  

As a result, thousands and thousands of people were murdered.  
Thousands of Americans have lost their homes.
 The middle class is a peasant class, while CEOs get billion
dollar salaries.  Our economy is far out of wack.

2008
Cable news chanting in unison again.
"Get out, Clinton!  You are hurting the democratic party by finishing
the primary process!  You are hurting the country!  You are a divider,
Clinton."

Same mantra.

Are we going to sigh and cave?

If so, our options are between a candidate who should be in
assisted living enjoying shuffleboard, and a mediocre neophyte
with little record, soft ethics, poor health and economic proposals
and very bad judgement in the company he keeps.

We will be tossing a star - a brilliantly informed, relentlessly hard
working candidate with amazing accomplishments, including the
recent child car safety bill that went through the senate - but you
never heard about because things like this are not important to the
media.

A weak president is important to the corporations that puppeteer
 news hacks like Tim Russert, Chris Matthews and Campbell Brown.
A weak president means a weak America, which means more control
and money for corporations.  More lucrative wars, richer CEOs, and
desperate employees - who will work for less and less.

Are we going to sigh and shrug and let cable news stop the democratic
process in its tracks once again?



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Re: Clinton being Crucified ala Al Gore (2.00 / 4)

What that? I cant hear you over the awesome sound of the words President Obama.


by Cheebs on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:28:05 AM EST

We have no option (2.00 / 1)

Clinton MUST stay in.


by internetstar on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:28:09 AM EST

A talent like Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 1)

is very rare.  I don't think most people realize
how important it is to get her elected.
by internetstar on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:29:20 AM EST
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Re: A talent like Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 3)

Clearly not enough do, or they would have voted for her.  Democracy - funny old game.


by interestedbystander on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:32:57 AM EST
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Re: A talent like Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 3)

more people have voted for her.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:34:48 AM EST
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Re: A talent like Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 3)

Really?  A few states won't release their totals, so that conclusion is mysterious to me.


by rfahey22 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:37:14 AM EST
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If Clinton drops out.. (none / 0)

People will blame HER for the coming McCain nightmare


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Without a REAL committment to it, we WON'T win in November.
by architek on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:06:06 AM EST
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Re: If Clinton drops out.. (none / 0)

How will they not blame her if she stays in? It's her destructive and suicidal campaign people will blame.

P.S. to the commenter two parents up, even if you don't included the four caucuses that gave no popular vote total AND included FL and MI, Obama still has more votes than Hillary, since NC gave him 230,000 - erasing her PA gains. Get your facts straight.


by TheSilverMonkey on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:23:59 AM EST
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Re: A talent like Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Wrong but irrelevant anyway - it's over.  ABC have just announced that Obama overtook Clinton today in Superdels, and Rasmussen have announced the race over, and will stop the daily tracking poll soon.


by interestedbystander on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:39:26 AM EST
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Rasmussen decides our candidate, eh? (2.00 / 1)


by internetstar on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:42:03 AM EST
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Re: Rasmussen decides our candidate, eh? (none / 0)

Of course not, it's just more evidence that all but a few diehard Clinton supporters understand it's over.


by interestedbystander on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:58:51 AM EST
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Clinton supporters don't listen to... (none / 0)

pollsters (sometimes), just like they don't listen to economists (except for Krugman, except when he's saying Clinton's plan doesn't work).

Experts are merely the people who know the most about their specialties.  No reason to pay attention.  Except when they report a huge lead in a small state far too late in the game to change anything.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:11:13 PM EST
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Re: A talent like Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

Never understood that metric for the simple reason that it doesn't count caucus states.

Are primary votes worth more then??


by pholkhero on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:51:28 AM EST
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Hasn't been a talent like Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

since Jesus.




Democratic Candidate, US Senate, Wisconsin 2012
by benmasel on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:21:47 AM EST
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Clinton is worth fighting for /nt (2.00 / 1)


by internetstar on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:29:43 AM EST
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Re: We have no option (2.00 / 1)

Obama needs her in. If he becomes the nominee and loses BIG in KY and WV, he won't look so hot. It would be a preview of November with him as the nominee.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:34:28 AM EST
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It Would Be a Preview of November (none / 0)

With ANYBODY as our nominee.  It's Kentucky and West Virginia.


by TooFolkGR on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:37:06 AM EST
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Re: It Would Be a Preview of November (none / 0)

tell that to senator byrd


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:52:40 AM EST
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Not Sure What Your Point Is (none / 0)

Senator Byrd is more of an institution than a Democrat.  His Seniority and mastery of Senate Procedure allow him to keep bringing the bacon home.  If he passed peacefully in his sleep his seat would become Leans Republican for the next election overnight.


by TooFolkGR on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:21:57 PM EST
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You realize Ron Paul is still a candidate, right? (1.75 / 8)

There are still people voting for Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee on the Republican side.

Nobody's stopping Clinton from campaigning to the end, unless maybe her bus gets repo'd to pay her campaign debts.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:32:07 AM EST

Russert (2.00 / 3)

Called for the recount to stop in 2000. Now he declares that the Democratic race is over, and town crier Drudge screams it from the rooftops. They should be forewarned that a lot can happen between now and June.

A journalist can report what HAS HAPPENED, but predicting what WILL HAPPEN isn't good journalism.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:33:08 AM EST

Thanks for the best post (2.00 / 1)

I've read in a month!


by internetstar on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:39:29 AM EST
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Re: Thanks for the best post (none / 0)

You must not read many posts.


ооо
by Mumphrey on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:59:38 AM EST
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Re: Thanks for the best post (none / 0)

you think that the FL recount shouldn't have happened and believe that Bush won the 2000 election fair and square?


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:50:37 PM EST
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Re: Clinton being Crucified ala Al Gore (2.00 / 4)

The Supreme Court stopped the recount, not the media.


by rfahey22 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:38:44 AM EST

Re: Clinton being Crucified ala Al Gore (none / 0)

the media gave them and the Florida stooges the political cover to do so.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:23:54 AM EST
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General election versus primary (2.00 / 1)

A simple distinction that makes this analogy full of fail.


by JJE on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:58:11 AM EST

Ugh. (none / 0)

This is sad.
I really don't know why I come here now.
Wait, I do. It's to gawk at the pathetic mess this place has become.
Well done, people, you've made a once highly respected site into a joke.
ооо
by Mumphrey on Fri May 09, 2008 at 10:58:47 AM EST

Re: Clinton being Crucified ala Al Gore (none / 0)

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by IowaMike on Fri May 09, 2008 at 11:06:07 AM EST

Re: Clinton being Crucified ala Al Gore (none / 0)

Wow! I'm getting to really hate Obama supporters.


by ellend818 on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:16:44 PM EST

Because you show more logic here (none / 0)

I am not going to boo you, just ignore you.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Fri May 09, 2008 at 01:23:34 PM EST

Re: Clinton being Crucified ala Al Gore (none / 0)

It's not just the media. Some of the "supporters" yelling "get out now" are the same people who were "protesting" the counting of ballots in 2000. There's a good portion of American media and people who don't really believe in democracy, they believe in "might makes right".


by LakersFan on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:21:27 PM EST

Nobody is arguing not to count votes (none / 0)

What they're saying is that even in her best case scenario, she can't win, and her best case isn't going to happen.

That said, most people, like me, aren't arguing she should quit immediately either. She needs some time to try to bring in donations to retire her debt, and she should do that, but, and it's a big but, she should refrain from any negativity at all. She shouldn't even be mentioning Barack Obama on the campaign trail. She should be talking about her qualities and making comparisons against McCain.

Then after all the contests are done on June 3rd, she should withdraw soon after that and support the nominee.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Fri May 09, 2008 at 02:36:29 PM EST


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