2008 Poll Watcher Maps

Hello. We have a question at my house. It's about the poll watchers map on either side of the MyDD webpage. You've seen them. They are on the upper right and left hand corners of this webpage. We've just started watching these little maps and well-

according to them the matchup between Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain and Sen. Clinton and Sen. McCain is listed. These numbers are for the electorial college.

Uhmm. We were just wondering where these numbers came from and how accurate they are.

Because right now. They show the following:

In a  Sen. Obama v. Sen. McCain matchup it shows:

McCain wins by 3 electorial votes.
Sen. Obama:  265   and  Sen. McCain:  273

In a  Sen. Clinton v. Sen. McCain matchup it shows:

Clinton wins by 6 electorial votes.
Sen. Clinton:  276  and  Sen. McCain:  262

Total number electorial votes needed to win:  270

I read this stuff and I just wondered, the Obama and Clinton camps each say they will be the nominee and winner of the general election. Then I just started looking at these little maps on MyDD and wondering how this figures in.

Isn't it still the electorial college that determines who wins the presidency?

I assume these are accurate numbers otherwise MyDD wouldn't run them on this site.

What do you think about what these numbers are showing?



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that both Obama and Clinton are along ways away from the days when McCain was above 300 on both of them.

and that I am glad they are both moving in the right direction

and that its weird that Hillary loses Michigan but Obama wins it.


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by TruthMatters on Thu May 08, 2008 at 10:56:20 PM EST

a better site to look at for electoral (none / 0)

college stuff is done by Poblano over at http://fivethirtyeight.com

He has his model looking pretty good (it beat the pollsters for the NC and IN primary).

He also takes into account all polls and weights them, thus a POS poll won't mess up the outcome.


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by Student Guy on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:03:45 PM EST

Polls show that they each have a chance (none / 0)

But November is a long way off.  I still think McCain is favored in this election.  Depends on his performance and whether Obama really can pull the party together.  That would have been a tall order for either of them.


by lombard on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:06:27 PM EST

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If we took the polls from five months ago as predictive, Clinton would have swept to victory and Obama would have won two states. Polls change.

That said, over most of the year, Obama has maintained either a lead or parity with McCain in both electoral and national polls. In fact, he's largely done better than Clinton up until recently when the heat has been on him and off her.


by animated on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:14:53 PM EST

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They are the accurate reflection of the very latest poll. The systems that weight, have their bias inherent in what they choose to weight, or not.  There is no bias in these maps, only the latest poll number in each state.


by Jerome Armstrong on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:18:00 PM EST

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Thus Obama and Clinton win Indiana, but lose Wisconsin.

Honestly I like what you're trying to do with those maps, but using latest poll only just opens it to outliers.


by Skaje on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:23:03 PM EST
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Thank you and welcome.


by 12 dogs and a blog on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:35:18 PM EST
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jerome - they are biased towards BO because they dont show him winning dont ya know?


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by canadian gal on Fri May 09, 2008 at 12:18:43 AM EST
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I agree with everything above, but would add one thing.  Obama, more than any other candidate in either party, has demonstrated an ability to move numbers.  I don't know what it is--the big rallies, the heavy advertising budget, the positive media.  Others have more valid opinions on that than I do.

But there is no one who has moved numbers like Obama has.  He is going to do very well in the fall.


by smoker1 on Thu May 08, 2008 at 11:32:31 PM EST

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The electoral maps here on mydd sow NOTHING because they are totally biased to one candidate. Wanna guess which one?


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by feliks on Fri May 09, 2008 at 06:22:26 AM EST

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John McCain :D

Sorry ya'll gotta laugh abit this evening. It's been a long day.

Sense of humor is ALWAYS a GOOD THING!!


by 12 dogs and a blog on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:25:40 AM EST
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