He's the nominee. Stop the attacks.

divisive diaries popping up are from LGF and redstaters trying to create mischief...

Before Hillary lost the nomination how was she going to pay for her plan?  Maybe Obama can steal a page from her book.

Obama has been pandering his entire campaign, if you haven't noticed.

What else is new?  Except he's giving more ammo the Republicans.

Obama is the nominee and McCain will be President of the United States.

Now that Obama is the presumptive nominee, real Democrats should stop the personal attacks and smears and focus on construction discussions aimed at finding good policy solutions AND a strong path to victory in November.

Angry accusations of pandering are, at this point, counterproductive.

What's your complaint? Obama changed something toward what you like?

And, what's the problem?  If it's consistency, that's not a very strong argument. I want candidates and elected officials who can change if the change make sense.

hey Archy this is just sad ... you are making yourself look even more pathetic and now of a sudden you want to use the word "pander" now ????

get with the f*cking program  
unless you rather have McCain's health plan

Obama will adopt Hillary's health care plan when officially secures the nomination.

He should take some time off from campaigning on the stump and introduce his idea for a middle class tax cut/second stimulus package in the Senate; his name should be the lead on the proposal.  The goal would be to make McCain vote on his proposal though I suspect McCain will skip the vote as he has done almost seventy percent of the time over the past two years.

I would also take a risk and find a moderate Republican (Arlen Specter?) with whom he can re-introduce the McCain/Kennedy immigration.  The strategy is risky because the position is not popular with the majority of Americans.  However, the goal would be to make McCain appear like a flip-flopper; of course, McCain may skip the vote.

Very good point. Now that Obama's supporters are in full scale stop the personal attacks on the Democratic candidate mode, they are more than willing to state that it's just a minor little policy fix for a proposal that Obama believes isn't going to go anywhere, anyway - considering political realities and all that It's like taxing the oil companies just to give those people who don't know they are being pandered to, as opposed to being listened to and offered a short term, albeit flawed solution.

Republicans use a race-based Southern strategy to win primaries and elections for decades and it's a bad thing. Obama builds his entire campaign around it, just replacing the race, and it's an effective and viable strategy to rally Democrats in red states to win primaries and caucuses. Brilliant political strategy.

No, Obama is not going to bring any changes to the current health care system. No one who voted for Obama in the primaries ever believed he actually could change anything. That's why they viciously attacked Hillary Clinton's attempt to do so in 1993, using Republican and insurance company propaganda and tactics to do so. Same old Republican style politics but with a clever race based twist. Props to the Obama campaign. Too bad about your health care needs. McCain wasn't going to do anything about them either, if that's any consolation.

I feel sorry for you (AND YOUR BUSTED CAPS LOCK KEY).  It's almost time to move on now.

Neither HRC or BO are promoting real single-payer universal health care--which is what we really need.

You're gonna be OK, Architek, you'll see.

I guess this is about my comment in the other diary?

1) I'm pretty sure he didn't change anything.  the NY Observer has it with the "not depend on health status" wording back in June last year.

2) Obama's advisers don't think it would be impossible.  Back in the other diary you cited the WSJ as thinking it would be difficult, which is true, hence Obama's Exchange thing which is there to enforce the rules.

3) You do have Goolsbee saying that Hillary won't have enough subsidies to pay for her mandate, but that's about poor people, not pre-existing conditions.  And he's just nitpicking the numbers coming from her campaign, which are not exactly a final budget.

4) Hillary and Obama have the same philosophy here as far as pre-existing conditions go.  When you ban the musical chairs game where insurance companies try to horde all the healthy people and unload all the sick people on somebody else, payouts go up, because the sick people aren't paying for their own care anymore.  However, all that effort that goes into playing that game costs way more OVERALL than the care does.  If you shut it down, the system saves money, and you can force premiums down.

5) Obama: "As president, I'll sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term."
Hillary: "Well, I want to have universal health care coverage by the end of my second term."