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North Carolina Results Thread

by Todd Beeton, Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:07:44 PM EST

√ Barack Obama: 890,700 votes (56 percent)
Hillary Clinton: 657,943 votes (42 percent)

99% precincts reporting at 1:21 AM Eastern

Update [2008-5-6 23:7:44 by Todd Beeton]:With 91% of precincts reporting, Barack Obama has already made up the 210,000 votes Hillary Clinton gained in Pennsylvania.

Update [2008-5-6 23:38:30 by Todd Beeton]:With 98% reporting, he's blasted past her PA gains.

Tags: 2008 presidential election, democratic nomination, north carolina primary (all tags)

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All over but the cryin n/t (2.00 / 2)

by parahammer on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:56:44 PM EST

Re: All over but the cryin n/t (2.00 / 0)

The Republican strategist on CNN said 'It's time to take the family pet to the vet for the last visit.' So much for Operation Chaos.

by Shaun Appleby on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:12:11 PM EST
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Re: All over but the cryin n/t (none / 0)

Us HRC supporters will remember comments like this come the fall.

by bluestatedude on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:30:58 PM EST
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Re: All over but the cryin n/t (none / 0)

Are you voting for candidates or to spite their supporters?

by KyleJRM on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:33:30 PM EST
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Re: All over but the cryin n/t (2.00 / 6)

Oh no! Someone on the internet said something mean to me! I won't vote for the Democrat against McCain!

Grow up. Clinton supporters have said some pretty nasty things to me, but I'd still vote for her against McCain, four more years of Bush policy.

by Skaje on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:44:53 PM EST
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All Democrats need to stop sniping at, (2.00 / 4)

and fighting each other. It's only to the GOP's advantage.

Fact is both Hillary and Obama would make great Presidents, and no matter what happens we need to pull together to defeat John McCain.

The last thing the world needs is a third Bush term.

Clinton Democrats care about the same things I do, most importantly beating John McCain.

by TrueBlueCT on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:45:06 PM EST
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Going to sit on your hands (2.00 / 3)

because somebody gloated? Are you kidding?

Obama leads the popular vote too

by kellogg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:49:47 PM EST
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the HRC supporters have (2.00 / 1)

been so respectful of Obama supporters after all...</snark>

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.

by Carl Nyberg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:58:54 PM EST
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You do that. (none / 0)

Voting for McCain, are you?

John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.

by Shem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:11:08 PM EST
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Re: You do that. (1.50 / 2)

Does he support democracy?

by DTaylor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:37:51 PM EST
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Certainly. (none / 0)

He wants to spread it at gunpoint for the next hundred years.

That a Democrat would even threaten to send McCain to the White House is indicative of seriously questionable values and priorities.

John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.

by Shem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:08:31 PM EST
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Re: All over but the cryin n/t (none / 0)

Please know that parahammer could be karl rove for all we know.

by chrispy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:25:13 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Obama has erased all the popular votes Clinton gained in PA, by my math...Clinton also picked up 7% Ditto Head support in Indiana, meaning 3.6% should be subtracted from her total as we are considering the results

Matthew25Network.com

by cardboard 1 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:03 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

So GOP vote for Obama count but GOP votes for Hillary don't?

Hope you have a lot of GOP votes in the general to make up for the dems you losing with talk like that.

by DTaylor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:59:52 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Nope I didn't count GOP voters... I counted Voters who said they would not support Sen. Clinton in the fall. Obama did not have such a margin

Matthew25Network.com

by cardboard 1 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:01:00 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

You do understand that, according to CNN exit polls, the majority of GOP voters who plan to vote for McCain voted for Obama.

Does this tell you anything perhaps?

by kristoph on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:12:19 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

North Carolina is a semi-closed primary Hoss... no GOP voters cast ballots in the Democratic primary.

"We have said since Iowa that this is a race for delegates."
-Howard Wolfson

by belicheat on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:43:21 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

I asked on a different thread and got no response:

Will HRC denounce Rush and his Operation Chaos? Why has she not come out against him? Or did she already and I missed it?

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:41:03 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Lets not get into that game. It's not her obligation to denounce every halfwit's actions.

by Pravin on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:20:37 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

And the Republicans for a day that Obama has relentlessly courted?

"The Bumble Bee flies because it thinks it can."

by LadyEagle on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:12:36 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 3)

UPDATE: Obama wins men and Obama wins women.

HUGE!

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:18 PM EST

MSM saying its over (2.00 / 2)

Joe Scarborough, who has been carrying water for Clinton for several weeks now, basically anointed Obama the nominee.

by parahammer on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:59:41 PM EST
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Re: MSM saying its over (none / 0)

Joe hasn't been carry water for anyone except Obama because MSNBC is now the Obama News Network.

Hillary should stay in the race until June 3rd, regardless. She will win big in WV and KY. This race is, and always been, about race.

by stefystef on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:06:08 PM EST
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Re: MSM saying its over (2.00 / 2)

Joe and pat Buchanan fall all over themselves helping Hillary.

by parahammer on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:09:15 PM EST
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Re: MSM saying its over (none / 0)

This race is, and always been, about race.

We can't go down this road. This race is about two candidates. It is not about race. It is not about gender.

Unable to rec or rate
Still supporting Obama
Still not putting up with "preening" posts

by jaiwithani on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:51:02 PM EST
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Re: MSM saying its over (none / 0)

Unfortunately, the race has become about race. Thanks to Jesse Jr. Well...I guess we'll see.

by christinep on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:56:05 PM EST
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Re: MSM saying its over (none / 0)

I think it was Wolfson who said this was a race for delegates. If so, the math wont add up after tonight. But, that was then, this is now, time to either move the goal posts and/or change the rules.

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:51:27 PM EST
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Re: MSM saying its over (none / 0)

You obviously don't watch MSNBC. Joe is a pure Hillary schill.

It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)

by LordMike on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:51:49 PM EST
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Re: MSM saying its over (none / 0)

based on your comment

I feel sorry for you really

PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability

by wellinformed on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:10:36 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

... also, Obama won only African American voters, he lost non-African American voters by over 20%.

by kristoph on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:03:13 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Who the hell cares? A vote is a vote

by Pravin on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:36:28 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Try saying that come general election...

by DTaylor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:39:54 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Republiclan white voters are not going to be voting for Hillary in large enough numbers either.

by Pravin on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:01:24 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

As I said above, the race is about race.

by christinep on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:57:05 PM EST
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what's your implied point? (none / 0)

That we shouldn't be counting Black votes in North Carolina b/c they are somehow tainted or illegitimate?

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.

by Carl Nyberg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:01:27 PM EST
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Re: what's your implied point? (none / 0)

No just over represented relative to the general election.

by DTaylor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:40:21 PM EST
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Re: what's your implied point? (none / 0)

That's why he did so well in Vermont: the black vote.

I'm only a click away

by juliewolf on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:13:28 PM EST
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Re: what's your implied point? (none / 0)

And Colorado

by nwgates on Wed May 07, 2008 at 12:36:36 AM EST
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Re: what's your implied point? (none / 0)

And Iowa

by nwgates on Wed May 07, 2008 at 12:36:54 AM EST
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Re: what's your implied point? (none / 0)

And Washington

by nwgates on Wed May 07, 2008 at 12:37:46 AM EST
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Re: what's your implied point? (none / 0)

And Wisconsin, et cetera, et cetera

by nwgates on Wed May 07, 2008 at 12:38:34 AM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Per Chuck Todd:

If Obama mantains 57% in NC he will have entirely erased HRC's popular vote gain from PA.

Holy shnikes.

Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.

by fogiv on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:33 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

yeah but does NC count.

by parahammer on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:59:59 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

silly rabbit. of course NC doesn't count.

by alex100 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:09:14 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

It's not even really a state, is it?

Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.

by fogiv on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:10:58 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Noooooo.

by alex100 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:20:07 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Well, when you get 91% of one race voting for you in the south it's kinda hard to lose. i think these results from NC fare very badly for Obama in the GE. He's only getting 37% of white women.

by handsomegent on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:31:40 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

C'mon, you should know these numbers wouldn't likely be the same in the GE. It would only be bad if Hillary and Obama were both running in the GE versus McCain.

Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.

by fogiv on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:35:12 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

They will be.

by DTaylor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:41:08 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Are you suggesting a Unity ticket, or that HRC will split from the Democratic Party to run independently?

Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.

by fogiv on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:40:02 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

I still think it's too early to count on NC.
What happened to the rural vote?

I think there is a fix going on here. Obama's the nominee, McCain is the President.

by stefystef on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:03:10 PM EST

Both can beat McCain (none / 0)

Lets not be pessimistic. I think both our great Dem candidates can mop the floor with McCain. The head-to-head match-up polls say both can win, and that is even before any post primary unity bump.

by protothad on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:57:58 PM EST
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Re: Both can beat McCain (1.00 / 2)

There won't be unity

Team Obama has used power politics to force feed us by any means necessary.

The cost of that is unity in the general and president McCain.

by DTaylor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:42:19 PM EST
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Re: Both can beat McCain (none / 0)

Are you saying that you won't vote for the Dem in November? I guess I don't get what you mean. Force fed? Power politics? Its been a rough and tumble hard nose campaign, but I don't see how either candidate has done anything completely beyond the pale.

by protothad on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:06:36 PM EST
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Re: Both can beat McCain (none / 0)

Which horse should I wager on in the Preakness? Also, who will win the NBA finals? Thanks in advance. I know you can predict the future, so just give me that information and I can retire now.

by agpc on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:10:05 PM EST
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Re: Both can beat McCain (none / 0)

Can you elaborate? I haven't really seen "power politics," but my definition might now match yours.

by Falsehood on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:12:53 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Which counties are they counting first?

by stefystef on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:07:22 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Among people that voted for Hillary Clinton, 7% said they would NOT be satisfied if Clinton wins the nomination. I'll take Operation Chaos for that.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:08:28 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Still waiting for HRC to denounce Rush and demand he stop Operation Chaos.

Any one care to explain why she has not?

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:02:56 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

That gives it attention - she doesn't want it to be news.

by Falsehood on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:13:43 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

each state will tighten for the loser at this point. Early vote was huge for Obama in N.C. while the rural vote is huge for Hillary in IN.

by alex100 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:10:08 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

The superdelegates will come a callin' this week. Say goodnight, Hillary.

Chuck Todd "numbers out of NC negate any gains HRC campaign wanted to make tonight"

/paraphrased

John McCain: Four More Years of Failure.

by dannybauder on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:10:59 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (1.00 / 2)

And say Hello to President McCain.

by handsomegent on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:32:29 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 2)

Nice. Future McCain voter, eh? This site is by and for Dems.

Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.

by fogiv on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:36:23 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

That is only true if we make it a self fulfulling prophecy by being pessimistic and divided. Both our candidates can beat McCain. Lets just keep working for our respective candidates, let the primary process finish, then rally around the nominee and kick some Republican butt!

by protothad on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:10:07 PM EST
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Looks like a major blowout (none / 0)

Obama got another NC SD today, many more should endorse tomorrow.

by parahammer on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:28:03 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

These numbers are kind of shocking.

by bobbank on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:28:06 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

I know I am starting to feel that shocking feeling down my leg

PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability

by wellinformed on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:13:39 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

NC is coming in higher for Obama than I expected, but otherwise this isn't that far outside of projections. Clinton takes IN and Obama takes NC. He gets a slight gain in delegates, but it still comes down to the supers to decide it. What did you project?

by protothad on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:17:32 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

anyone care to guestimate the final for NC?

for me:
Obama 58
Clinton 41

by alex100 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:29:17 PM EST

61 / 39 (none / 0)

by Mojo Risen on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:30:31 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

65-35, and crossing a threshold in the delegate counting formula.

by haystax calhoun on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:43:50 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

you're the first one down, it seems. He's "only" got a 26% lead at the moment.

by alex100 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:50:55 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

I was looking at all election totals and noticed that HRC has won only one contest this season with over 60%. Meanwhile, BHO was 17 contests.

And they say BHO cant win in the GE.

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:05:08 PM EST
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her only option now is to sue the DNC... (2.00 / 1)

I pray she has some level-headed advisers who council her against that.

by Mojo Risen on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:29:38 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 2)

I find all the talk about Obama losing the white working class vote interesting. When this race started, Hillary was winning more than 20% of the black vote. What about the fact that she is now only earning AA support in the single digits? That should be as least as significant.

by jadegirl on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:31:16 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 3)

According to some people here, black people aren't voting for Clinton because they're racist, but white people aren't voting for Obama because they don't like his policies.

Mydd...

by Skaje on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:48:13 PM EST
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Actually, in South Carolina (none / 0)

she once had a majority of black voters. (52-33%).
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2 007/07/20/280196.aspx

Then Obama achieved viability, and then the AA community got pissed off.

Clinton Democrats care about the same things I do, most importantly beating John McCain.

by TrueBlueCT on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:50:03 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Race identification. Sad.

by christinep on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:59:55 PM EST
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both candidates benefited from ID politcs (none / 0)

Where would HRC be if without the votes of "White" women? She would have been ignored out of this process a long time ago.

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.

by Carl Nyberg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:03:46 PM EST
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Re: both candidates benefited from ID politcs (none / 0)

dammit no one even mentions that

PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability

by wellinformed on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:16:08 PM EST
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Re: both candidates benefited from ID politcs (none / 0)

Why do our assumptions allow people to create "what if Blacks didn't vote?" scenarios but they don't occur to us about other demographic groups?

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.

by Carl Nyberg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:24:29 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 3)

Obama may have won the nomination tonight.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:33:58 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

He won the nomination in February when he racked up 150 net delegates and narrowed Clinton's superdelegate lead significantly. Clinton had to come back big to stop him, all she has done is split the states 50-50 while continuing to lose her superdelegate lead. Down to 14 now.

by Skaje on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:50:35 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Brush the dirt off your shoulders, Senator Obama; you stand tall!

I am so looking forward to Obama's speech tonight, yes I am.

by realcountrymusic on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:35:58 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Obama picks up another superdelegate in North Carolina.

I think after tonight's results, the floodgates will open.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:38:50 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 2)

Nah nah nah nah
nah nah nah nah

hey hey hey

gooooodbye

"We have said since Iowa that this is a race for delegates."
-Howard Wolfson

by belicheat on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:44:23 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

someone has to say it.

I would not be surprised to see her drop out in the coming day or two. Not that I necessarily believe it but I would not be surprised.

by alex100 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:44:26 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

She won't drop out until January 21, 2009... even then she'll still be in court, I bet... Remember, it's all about her...

It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)

by LordMike on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:50:18 PM EST
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Chuck Todd: Obama can still win Indiana (none / 0)

"game changing night" would be an understatement.

by Mojo Risen on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:51:03 PM EST

Re: Chuck Todd: Obama can still win Indiana (none / 0)

Don't say things like this. It only makes it hurt more later. Sniff.

Fight the Smears!

by Lettuce on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:56:16 PM EST
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undecided vote (2.00 / 1)

was split between Obama, Hillary, and No preference.

vote blue in 2008

by sepulvedaj3 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:51:40 PM EST

Turnout?! (none / 0)

According to my data, the Kerry vote in North Carolina, 2004, was 1,525,849. Typical turnout in these primaries has been something like 70-90% of Kerry vote.

CNN says 532,575 reflects 18% of precincts reporting. Does that mean turnout in North Carolina is going to totally blow out the Kerry vote in 2004? If so that is amazing and kind of crazy.

by bobbank on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:51:42 PM EST

Re: Turnout?! (none / 0)

Precincts do not mean percentage of vote. The amount of votes in are likely more than that.

by wengler on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:00:51 PM EST
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Re: Turnout?! (none / 0)

That's correct. The most populous counties have already voted.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primari es/results/county/#NCDEMMAPprimary

It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel

by Sumo Vita on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:24:44 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (1.50 / 2)

Halperin says

SOURCE: CLINTON WILL MAKE REMARKS SOON MAKING UNAMBIGUOUSLY CLEAR HER INTENTION TO FIGHT ON

Oh yes. Enough time to pay off her vendor debt.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:52:54 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

Penn wants his money.
Also we will find out tomorrow whether She has lent her campaign additional funds.

by parahammer on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:58:30 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

or maybe the colombians I hear its not wise to owe them Money

shit Under that pressure I would never quit either I would promise free gas if I had to lmao

PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability

by wellinformed on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:19:18 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

In case you Obama-heads and Hillary-heads have missed it, McCain will probably only get 70% in NC and IN

This is pathetic. I could see Ron Paul get 4 or 5% from real Libertarians but this goes beyond that. Furthemore, at this point (where you've locked it up) the primary voters are usually part loyallists and people who never fail to vote.

Scarier still is that this trend has been going on in every contest since he locked it up

by kmwray on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:09:54 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Similar to how Kerry did in 2004 and Gore in 2000.

99% perspiration

by DaveOinSF on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:21:35 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

It's going to narrow. Maybe not vote-wise, but I don't think Obama's going to increase his 150000 vote lead in North Carolina. This was built with the early voting and the returns from the populous counties are mostly in. This will be about a 10% win, when all the votes are counted.

99% perspiration

by DaveOinSF on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:20:52 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Interesting....
Any other people have thoughts on this?

by chrispy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:33:23 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Sounds right Obama pics up 100,000 in popular vote interested in the total delegate shift too but its the popular vote that matters now.

Obama clearly has pledged delegates in his corner.

by DTaylor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:50:06 PM EST
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Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

I think you're right. Just in terms of the TV Optics, Obama benefitted a great deal by the fact that NC election officials dumped in the early voting results first, giving people the impression of a Mississippi-style blow out, when it pretty clearly won't be.

by blueflorida on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:47:04 PM EST
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didn't HRC say that as goes NC (none / 0)

so goes the nomination?

Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.

by Carl Nyberg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:21:49 PM EST

NC Board of Elections URL (none / 0)

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/ NC/1875/3565/en/summary.html

Currently Obama is around 13 points ahead with 16 of 100 counties fully reported, 56 partially reported..

Hillary has 443,382 votes so far,
Obama has 572,673

Turnout appears to have been around 24%

Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%

by architek on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:34:05 PM EST

Where's "Are You Ready?" (none / 0)

I got some scores to settle.

by Bush Bites on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:02:22 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (2.00 / 1)

To all you people who say Obama cannot win the general election, how do you account for the fact that Democratic turnout has far surpassed Republican turnout? Rush Limbaugh? The dissatisfaction numbers are higher than they have EVER been and that almost always spells doom for the incumbent party. Bush is the most unpopular president in modern history and McCain is essentially running as Bush III.

Whoever wins the Democratic nomination - most likely Obama - has a very good chance of winning the presidency. I understand that many of you are emotionally vested in Clinton and its disappointing to have your candidate lose. However, would you really rather have a 4 year continuation of Bush's policies?

by agpc on Tue May 06, 2008 at 10:15:48 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Lots of scoops on MSNBC.....

Fineman reports that Obama and Clinton will make a deal about the FL and MI delegations since Obama will have it wrapped up by May 31.

Russert reports that Obama will pay off Clinton's campaign debts.

Let's come together....over me.

Hillary: "Her dishonesty is actually honest." -- yellowdem1129

by Kobi on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:10:45 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

It's over. Let's Hillary's fans vent in peace for a few days.

Hillary: "Her dishonesty is actually honest." -- yellowdem1129

by Kobi on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:12:02 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

Why can't Hillary Clinton close the deal?

by craigk724 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:16:38 PM EST

Re: North Carolina Results Thread (none / 0)

It doesn't matter, except to political historians, since Obama closed the deal today.

Hillary: "Her dishonesty is actually honest." -- yellowdem1129

by Kobi on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:25:41 PM EST
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Marginally Interesting for Obama (none / 0)

According to my own metric, a 14 point win in NC and 1-4 point loss in IN gives Obama a "Marginally Interesting" night. That means lots of boasting MyDD diaries in the coming days. But the change in the race is debatable.

The media is treating this as a "Big Night," which means either I was wrong in setting up my metrics, or the media is overreacting to Obama's impressive night.

by elrod on Tue May 06, 2008 at 11:22:33 PM EST

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