Call to Action: DailyKos members trying to get control of CNN news cycle

According to this diary, the action called for against CNN in this diary has been effective. Haven't heard of this campaign? It started this weekend with a call to action diary on Dkos asking readers to submit their opinions regarding the Wright issue with CNN. They were sick of looking at it. Of course, that isn't the way news cycles are supposed to work. They aren't supposed to be subject to pressure by political groups, and viewers should be angry when they are. This morning John Roberts declared CNN a "Wright-Free Zone," because their viewers just didn't want to hear it. But it wasn't their viewers, per se, it was a small but effective group on Dkos shilling for their preferred candidate. You can fight back, though, using the info in the DailyKos diary.

Now I'm not writing this because I want Wright in the news again. I don't actually care. If that story has played out, so be it. But I do not want ANY political group influencing the news in this sort of way. This is exactly how Bush enjoys the media blackout of his illegal activities that he does--because his supporters go after the people reporting the news with such venom. Don't let the OFB get away with it, or we'll have a neoliberal instead of a neocon in office, and they'll do the same things to the Democratic party that neocons have done to he Republican party, namely, destroy it.

You can fight back, using the contact info in the Dkos diary, which I have copied her for your convenience. Contact CNN and tell them that you want the news reported unfilterd by the threats of any politicos, in this case the OFB.

John Roberts: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?97
Wolf Blitzer:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?2
Jack Cafferty:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?88
Anderson Cooper: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?5
Heidi Collins:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?4
Carol Costello:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?6
Lou Dobbs:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?7
Tony Harris:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?91
Erica Hill:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?124
T.J. Holmes:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?92
Larry King:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?73
Howard Kurtz:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?93
Don Lemmon:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?94
Susan Lisovicz:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?95
Miles O'Brien:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?14
Soledad O'Brien:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?15
Kyra Phillips:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?16
Rick Sanchez:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?98
Ali Vashi:  http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4. html?99

Here's my letter, sent to every one of these contacts:

I hope you don't follow John Roberts by declaring CNN a "Wright-Free Zone." Roberts is the victim of a hardcore liberal action agenda coming from DailyKos. The opinion of people trying to GET news as opposed to MAKE news is that news is news, and it should be reported without intervention from political factions.

I'm not asking you to contact every one of these people, just the one's you watch, so you can get your news unfiltered by DailyKos diarists.



Display:


Hardcore liberal? Like that's a problem or (2.00 / 8)

something.

The circle of friends in very small now. Almost to the point of being non-existent.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:10:40 AM EST

Re: Hardcore liberal? Like that's a problem or (2.00 / 10)

Amazing, how "liberal" has become a slur on MyDD.

I shall ponder this while making a latte.


Graveyards of Illinois - http://www.graveyards.com/
by MattHucke on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:14:06 AM EST
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Re: Hardcore liberal? Like that's a problem or (2.00 / 6)

Pretty telling, isn't it?


by emptythreatsfarm on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:16:15 AM EST
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Re: Hardcore liberal? Like that's a problem or (2.00 / 3)

Honestly I think that's mostly from GOPers over here messing around.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:17:07 AM EST
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Re: Hardcore liberal? Like that's a problem or (1.60 / 5)

The hardcore Obama-brats aren't 'hardcore liberals" - they're Leninists, imagining themselves the "vanguard" meant to purge the party, and propel the "revolution" forward.  As Obama appears to have no "revolutionary" program - other then getting himself elected it is hard to know just what it is they're getting themselves so over heated about.

In my opinion Sen Obama is just another telegenic egoist passing himself off as some kind of savior of the people, but many of his followers are pretty unabashed in their grab for power.  Their arrogance, their cruel dismissal of dissent, their promotion of  a personality cult are not much different then the clique surrounding Lenin -

The militant kossacks are among the worst.  I second whoever said recently (perhaps even in this thread) that theirs is a hostile takeover of the democratic party.  That is certainly how the apparatchiki at Daily Kos see their mission.  Hence all old line Democrats who might prefer Hillary for perfectly sound reasons are dismissed as senile racists.  They have created (out of whole cloth) a litmus test to decide who the "real" democrats are.

As I always say (paraphrasing Karl Kraus)  Obama-ism is the disease it claims to cure"


by PadraigPearse on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:26:54 PM EST
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I am a liberal and I am for Clinton (2.00 / 3)

what is amazing is how so many liberals have exposed themselves as just as loony Clinton haters are the radical right.


For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:27:53 AM EST
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Re: I am a liberal and I am for Clinton (2.00 / 3)

At the end of this you'll only have yourselves. You realize that right?


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:33:16 AM EST
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triple shot, 3 pump ,whole milk, extra hot please (none / 0)

Thanks


by highgrade on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:28:55 AM EST
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An Obama fan hijacking and nitpicking a diary?!? (2.00 / 4)

Wow.  What's next?  Pigs flying?  I've never seen such a spectacle as.... wait... this is the status quo isn't it?  

Nevermind!

She used the word "liberal" people.  Disregard the rest of the diary and move along now!


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:22:51 AM EST
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Re: An Obama fan hijacking and nitpicking a diary? (2.00 / 2)

What's wrong with liberals?


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:25:05 AM EST
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Re: An Obama fan hijacking and nitpicking a diary? (1.00 / 6)

Thanks PJ. You know how it is with these guys. As soon as the bitch protests, they want to smack her again.


Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by anna belle on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:29:15 AM EST
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Re: An Obama fan hijacking and nitpicking a diary? (2.00 / 2)

Ah. The sexism card.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:33:55 AM EST
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Only right wingers (2.00 / 2)

speak of sexism or racism cards.

I am sick of pigs of all kinds.


by TomP on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:50:37 AM EST
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Re: Only right wingers (none / 0)

Unfortunately the non-existent "race card" is easily trumped.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:00:00 AM EST
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Re: An Obama fan hijacking and nitpicking a diary? (1.50 / 2)

sadly, it's not nearly as effective as the race card.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:59:00 AM EST
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Re: An Obama fan hijacking and nitpicking a diary? (2.00 / 2)

Nah. That's trumped too easily. The NYT didn't give space to Cornel West to claim that a black man could never be the front-runner. But they did give it to Gloria Steinham to claim that a woman never could. Despite the fact that the woman she was referring to was the front-runner.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:05:17 AM EST
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Re: An Obama fan hijacking and nitpicking a diary? (1.00 / 1)

Zero for sexist language.


Visit Election Inspection for analysis, polls, and predictions!
by X Stryker on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:14:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Tips for unfiltered news (1.55 / 9)


Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by anna belle on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:11:10 AM EST

Re: Tips for unfiltered news (2.00 / 3)

I think you may have had too much coffee this morning...


I like baked beans.
by SpideyDem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:17:25 AM EST
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Actually, just having my first cup (2.00 / 0)

But thanks for the dismissal. Now you can go about your day actually doing something productive.


Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by anna belle on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:34:53 AM EST
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Re: Actually, just having my first cup (none / 0)

I won't dismiss you since you have a right to your opinion, bu I would like to point out that this protest by Kos is a good first step of what we will need this year...

CNN and other media outlets allow themselves to get involved in petty issues that have little if anything to do with the problems of the country.  They have done this to Democratic candidates for quite a while... Remember Edwards' haircut...?  Gore and inventing the internet...?  Kerry and flip-flop...?  

Seriously, this is akin to beating the Wright horse now... it is something the media does to Democrats and Democrats only... Criticism of Republicans is quickly disposed of f it is heard at all....

That this "issue" is confronting Obama does little to diminish the importance of decrying it.  Today it's this, tomorrow, it's something equally as silly with Clinton...  

When does it end...?

When we end it.


McCain/Palin... even scarier than Bush/Cheney... and that's saying something!
by JenKinFLA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:47:19 PM EST
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interesting (2.00 / 5)

at least dkos realizes it is a problem for Obama, but the kind of action they recommended is reminisent of the intimidation practiced throughout Obama's campaign.


by 4justice on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:25:02 AM EST
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Re: interesting (2.00 / 1)

And it looks a lot like hardcore Bush supporters, doesn't it?

Judging by the reaction to this diary, I'm pissing off all the Wright people, though! Heh. :)


Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by anna belle on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:33:35 AM EST
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Re: interesting (1.11 / 9)

They are more like Stalinists.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:48:05 AM EST
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People Who Rated This Comment a '1' (2.00 / 1)

Review the site rules.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:47:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: People Who Rated This Comment a '1' (none / 0)

I don't think that rules applies to anything anymore....

1's are tossed around on this site like confetti....


McCain/Palin... even scarier than Bush/Cheney... and that's saying something!
by JenKinFLA on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:29:43 AM EST
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STOP THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN (2.00 / 5)

Wow what tripe!

You your false proclamation that you don't want to see this Wright thing continues betrays you.

If you were a real democrat you would decry this kind of smear campaign on any Democrat.  Since you have made it clear that is not what you wnat I must ask:

Republican much?


by Why Not on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:14:52 AM EST

simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 4)

what exactly is it about Wright's words that you support?  About Obama's judgment given his long association with wright?  these are legitimate questions, not smears.


by 4justice on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:28:48 AM EST
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Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 4)

Exactly what about Wright holds any relevance for Obama?  Exactly what hasn't been answered about their association in the last two months of constant coverage?

It's over.  People are sick of hearing about it... that's poll tested.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:35:24 AM EST
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are you so blind to judgment issues? (2.00 / 2)

Obama only renounces people and ideas when his poll numbers begin to drop.  He simply doesn't want to have to deal with wright, but he should have thought about that like Oprah did.  Now this stuff is a smear?  A distraction?  

Obama's judgment is in question here. The repug plan is to bring down every down ticket race with linking democrats to Obama and Wright--it almost always gets to a judgment issue, not necessarily wrights words!  

Sorry.  And the more you Obama people protest, the more I think there is even more to this story that you don't want exposed.


by 4justice on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:09:33 AM EST
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Re: are you so blind to judgment issues? (2.00 / 1)

Because we all have the secret Wright newsletter that will make Obama unelectable in November, right?

Get real. Imagine CNN finishing their Wright coverage because they received a bunch of threatening emails... it's pretty hard, huh? Much more likely that CNN will continue to report the news, and realized that Wright is not news right now. If he comes back and says something stupid again, CNN will be the first network to cover it.

After Markos gives them permission, of course.


unapologetic Obama supporter
by dantes on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:18:33 AM EST
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Guilty until proven innocent, as usual (2.00 / 4)

And the more you Obama people protest, the more I think there is even more to this story that you don't want exposed.

It's the same thing with Rezko around here.  How many times does it take lawyers, journalists, and people with eyes to say that there's no wrongdoing in the Rezko case before some of you actually believe it?

The answer is: {empty set}, because every time someone explains (tiredly) that there's nothing untoward about the association, some folks think that there must be more that's hidden.  

Sorry, but I have no inside knowledge that I am keeping hidden about Obama's aquaintences.  We aren't a hivemind.  But I do consider myself a pretty good judge of existing evidence; I knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, for example, even from my apartment in Minnesota.

Just admit it, you don't want the topic to change, because the Wright issue is damaging towards Obama while your candidate's only hope is that he's wounded too much to continue into the general election.  People here didn't seem to mind when Tuzla left the circuit, even though that was an egregious example of your candidate lying to voters in attempt to exaggerate foreign policy cred.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:23:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 3)

I do not support Wright's comments.  However, they have nothing to do with Obama's abitility to govern.  They are not legitimate point of criticism.  Preachers are pretty much universally wacky, and say stuff that is not representative of their parishoners.

There is no judgement issue here.  A person's place of worship should not indicate what kind of judgement they have.  Otherwise we'd have a litmus test as to what church they went to.  This is plain wrong.  Obama doesn't agree with Wright's statements and it should be left at that.

Where judgement comes in is why he chose the people in his campaign, or political stances.  Those are legitimate.  Same is true for Clinton and her horrible choice of Mark Penn as her campaign manager and pollster.  Just as Axelrod can be scrutinized on BHO's side.  But this crap that passes as journalism needs to be stopped.


by Why Not on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:42:07 AM EST
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Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (1.75 / 4)

he sat there for 20 years listening to it and did not object. that's legitimate.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:46:51 AM EST
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Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 3)

No it isn't.  It isn't as if this is every surmon given, it was a very small number of sermons.  You really ought to check yourself, becasue the road you walk is one that will degenerate very quickly with questions about some of the wackier people that have associated themselves with the clintons, including preachers.

People do not always agree with what happens at the pulpit.  But you don't care about this, you just want another smear on Obama so that your candidate can look more like the choice to save the party despite not having won fair and square.

Your prolonging of this issue shows that you are willing to destroy the party if your preferred candidate doesn't win.  So go ahead and take your toys home, but remember that in the end you will suffer the McCain years and all the reversals that will produce.


by Why Not on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:55:42 AM EST
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Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 3)

Obama did this to himself. I have no pity.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:00:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (1.75 / 4)

And this is what makes me think you are a Republican troll.


by Why Not on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:03:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 3)

I have contributed more diaries to this site and Daily Kos than you. Many are positive and advocate progressive positions. There is more reason to believe that you are a Kos kiddy here to cause trouble.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:05:50 AM EST
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Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 3)

Then Start contributing now by refuting this smear campaign.  You say you are an advocate for progressive positions yet you wnat progressives to get smeared in the press.  Seems like a contradiction to me.  Furthermore, I have never posted on KOS and only over here.  Secondly I have championed progressive causes here.

So go back to your dreamworld where this kind of smear campaign is progressive if you will.  I will still consider you a republican troll for doing it.


by Why Not on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:08:59 AM EST
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Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 1)

What smear campaign?


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:10:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (1.00 / 1)

Your opinion means nothing to me.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:10:50 AM EST
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Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (2.00 / 1)

Feeling is mutual, your responses will no longer get anything but troll ratings (when appropriate) from me.


by Why Not on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:12:05 AM EST
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Re: simply, it is not a smear campaign (1.00 / 3)

you consistently abuse your ratings. I've been around here a lot longer than you Kos troll.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:14:10 AM EST
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Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 3)

This is the worst non-racist diary I've read here in a while. It's almost comical how bad it is.


by Democratic Unity on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:20:26 AM EST

Re: Worst diary in a while (1.66 / 6)

Thank you for reinforcing my decision not to vote for Obama should he become the party's nominee.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:23:48 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 4)

All Hail King McSame!


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:25:55 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 4)

Hillary said last week that you are engaging in the "height of folly" by doing that.  Hillary thinks you're dumb.


I like baked beans.
by SpideyDem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:26:18 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (1.00 / 10)

The $8/hour crowd is out in full force today.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:35:24 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 4)

What's wrong with making 8/hr?


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:36:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (1.25 / 4)

that's the going rate Obama is paying his bloggers. I'm not claiming that people that make $8/hour are bigger or cling to guns an religion or anything.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:40:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 1)

bitter* darn blackberry


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:44:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 1)

Oh. You're not claiming that they're single issue voters. I understand.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:57:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (1.33 / 3)

E.L.I.T.E


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:18:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 2)

Weird. I'm not sure how old you are but do you remember when the GOP was running single-issue campaigns against gay marriage or immigration?


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:24:54 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (none / 0)

Fuck you buddy.  You want to insult the living that I make (which happens to be six figures at the age of 32) based on an anonymous screen name and what, you goddamn fucktard?  Fuck you and the horse you came on.  


I like baked beans.
by SpideyDem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:13:46 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (1.50 / 2)

You need to leave this ste!


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:25:04 PM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (none / 0)

Mojo to you for telling me to leave the site.  I'm feeling much better now...


I like baked beans.
by SpideyDem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 01:56:36 PM EST
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Heh . . . (2.00 / 1)

more like the $300/hr crowd.

But the deeper question is what you have against the working class?


by Same As It Ever Was on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:59:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Owl (2.00 / 0)

 I am one of those people who you say supposedly earns $8.00 an hour. I own my own hair salon in Coral Springs, Florida. What is it exactly that you do, Ms. Success?


"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale
by april34fff on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:25:02 PM EST
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Re: Owl (2.00 / 0)

Small world.  I grew up in Coral Springs.  Lived in Ramblewood back by the park in Sherwood Forest.


by Same As It Ever Was on Mon May 05, 2008 at 01:12:00 PM EST
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Re: Owl (none / 0)

Very small world.And pretty back there. I live off of Atlantic between the Sawgrass and Coral Ridge dr.


"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale
by april34fff on Mon May 05, 2008 at 01:51:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 7)

So you base your decision on who to vote for by a single supporter he/she has?

Heh, good one. You'll never vote again then because there are idiots, assholes, and fools on each side of the political aisle.


by Yalin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:29:11 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 1)

because he is not qualified to be president.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:35:03 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 2)

What makes him unqualified and Hillary qualified to be President?


by Yalin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:36:22 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (1.75 / 4)

  1. He has hardly any experience in the Senate, and has spend a substantial amount of his time there seeking a higher office.
  2. He has not worked on the armed forces committee or on homeland security.
  3. He does not have a plan for universal healthcare.
  4. He's unelectable and is losing the electoral vote to McCain.

Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:46:04 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 3)

HA!

So you're voting for McCain because Obama is unelectable? That's hilarious!

And your voting for McCain because Obama does not have a plan for universal healthcare???


by Democratic Unity on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:49:26 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 2)

HA! I did not say I was voting for Mccain.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:08:00 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (none / 0)

You said that you refuse to vote for Obama. What am I to take that to mean? Are you writing in Hillary Clinton? She considers you an idiot if you do that. A real dullard.


by Democratic Unity on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:15:00 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 1)

awww a cowardly, passive personal attack against me. I'll go cry now.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:17:43 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (none / 0)

I'm not attacking you!!! I think you're brilliant - just brilliant. After all - the owl is the wisest animal.

But Hillary Clinton thinks you're a moron.


by Democratic Unity on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:31:03 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (none / 0)

And that makes Hillary right about at least one thing.  You are a fucktard owl06.


I like baked beans.
by SpideyDem on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:04:47 PM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (none / 0)

I don't want to mojo this because it's closer to deserving TR, but that's hilarious.


by semiquaver on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:14:21 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 4)

1. He's spent 3 years in the US Senate and 8 years in the Illinois State Senate. He has more legislative experience than Hillary Clinton has considering she's got 7 years in the US Senate.

2. So the two items that Hillary Clinton has done, but he has not, are used to preclude him from running for higher office?

Does that mean that an arbitrary statement by me that Hillary Clinton has never been a community organizer or a Constitutional Law Professor, or served on the Foreign Relations Committee should count?

3. Actually, he does have a plan for Universal Healthcare, one which I believe has a far higher chance of passing than hers does. Why? Because his plan focuses on costs first rather than mandates. If people cannot afford your healthcare proposal, it won't matter if you mandate it.

See Massachusetts as a prime example of this issue. Many doctors and patients have taken to paying the fine rather than get the healthcare because they cannot afford the healthcare. The fine is cheaper for them.

4. What is your definition of unelectable? Because if you look at them individually, Hillary Clinton has a negative rating of at least 50% and has dissed a ton of states like Iowa that she would need in the fall by saying caucuses don't count and are undemocratic.

Additionally, even the polling on this site shows that Obama still wins the electoral vote to McCain. He doesn't win the same states as Hillary Clinton to get to 270 however. But in the end, they both win.

Personally, Hillary Clinton's mistakes and political posturing on issues like the Bankruptcy Bill, the Iraq War 2002 vote, Kyl-Lieberman, Iran obliteration, Clinton Presidential Library donors, memos from the Healthcare 1993 debacle, gay issues and Clinton support, etc etc etc have left me with a distrust for them. I have no desire to see them back in the white house additionally because of the damage they caused to the national party during the 90s. And lastly, I've asked this question to several Clinton supporters here and have never received a cogent response.

Clinton is fighting tooth and nail for herself, but what has she ever fought for during her time in the US Senate in such a tooth and nail way? What did Bill ever fight for during his presidency other than his own political fortunes?

If you can't answer that, then I think you have your answer as to whether or not the Clintons will take their politics and fight for the issues you care about.


by Yalin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:59:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 2)

That's some great experience: voting 'present' on difficult issues and changing his votes. BTW where are his record from the IL State Senate? He doesn't seem to have kept any....


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:09:19 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 1)

He voted almost 4000 times and voted present on just over 100. That's maybe 3%. Additionally, it's been documented that many of his present votes were orchestrated with his fellow democrats and other democratic groups like Planned Parenthood in order to blunt republican influence.

Lastly, Hillary Clinton and John Edwards' teams were able to get his voting records quite easily. It doesn't take too much digging.


by Yalin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:20:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (none / 0)

You got me... votes on what breed of bird should be the state bird really qualify him to be president. maybe he voted on a tire swing for a playground to? I like my candidates to be pro tire swing.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:23:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (none / 0)

I assume that's not snark and you have the list of Obama's votes to back up those statements?

Please do share then. :)


by Yalin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:32:48 AM EST
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Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 1)

Is he more qualified than McSame?


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:36:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (1.50 / 2)

no. mccain is wrong on many issues, but he is more qualified to be president.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:24:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 2)

McCain is more qualified to be president. Comedy. Thanks for going on record there. If McCain is elected and people die and our environment and economy suffers because of that kind of thinking I'd love you to revisit your answer here. Just to give yourself a kick in the ass.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:27:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Worst diary in a while (2.00 / 2)

I see.

What's your voting thought process? What's your ranking of important issues? Here's mine:

1.  "rude" commenter on Mydd hurt my feelings!!

  1. Healthcare
  2.  What will the Republicans potentially say about Rev. Wright and Obama?!??!?!
  3. Iraq War
  4. Obama asked for orange juice!
  5. Pension reform


by Democratic Unity on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:47:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I somehow missed that diary (2.00 / 4)

on Kos, and since everyone knows that it is all about me then it must not be that important ;)

Truly though, does the diarist really think that dKos is going to be directing the media?


accepting McLettuce is like being 9 years old and forced to eat your own cooking
by Sychotic1 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:22:00 AM EST

Re: I somehow missed that diary (none / 0)

All the talking heads call Kos for their marching orders.


unapologetic Obama supporter
by dantes on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:24:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I just started a thread asking the admins to check (2.00 / 2)

out the people that are hijacking this thread, and personally insulting the diarist, without discussing any of the diary's substance.

Perhaps some of you who were some of the first to respond to this diary will be banned soon.  If so, congratulations, you brought it on yourselves, and it couldn't happen to more valuable posters.  I'd like to say we'll miss your contributions, but I don't think people will really miss arguments over the validity of the use of the single word "liberal" in a diary.  


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:30:50 AM EST

Re: I just started a thread asking the admins to c (2.00 / 6)

Banned for what? It's doubtful that an attack on liberals is going to be viewed favorably by the site maintainers.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:35:13 AM EST
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Great diary. (2.00 / 2)

Rec'd.

Keep up the good work.

It was fair and impartial, sourced, and provided a call to action for the benefit of the voters within the Democratic Party, by keeping the 4th estate honest.  


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:34:39 AM EST

Re: Great diary. (2.00 / 7)

Impartial?  Obama will ruin the democratic party?  Maybe you should actually read the whole diary before you call it impartial.


by reggie23 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:39:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]

sldfkjdsf (2.00 / 4)

By encouraging the MyDD to counter the DKos campaign, you are are not discouraging the influence of political groups on CNN; you are merely countering one political group with another.  

That's free speech, and it's beautiful; but don't dress it up as some sort of media independence campaign.

There is no independent tv/radio news media.  They are all in the pockets of the corporate owners.  Without the Fairness Doctrine, viewership/listenership dominate, and I can see things going the way of Internet sites (E.g., MyDD v. DKos) and the way of radio (e.g., Rush v. Air America).


by MikeyB on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:34:47 AM EST

Re: sldfkjdsf (2.00 / 1)

We're the same political group. Right?


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:35:46 AM EST
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Uh, no (2.00 / 2)

Because we aren't campaigning to keep Wright in the news, we're campaigning to keep outside groups OUT. We're not fighting for control of the media narrative, we're fighting for the press to be free so they can follow news stories as the news dictates, not as some fanatics on a website want them to. Big difference there.


Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by anna belle on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:39:20 AM EST
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The press IS free (2.00 / 4)

They're free to see that large segments of their viewers are tired of hearing about the same recycled issues for months in a row.

Nobody's holding a gun to their head.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:41:27 AM EST
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Re: The press IS free (2.00 / 2)

I like how Anna pretends there are no fanatics here.

And are you kidding me, there have been countless campaigns waged via this site to control the media.


Unable to rec or rate

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

by GeorgeP922 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:58:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]

And the funny thing is commenters in this thread (1.50 / 6)

are proving the diarist's thesis.  Many of you are Daily Kos Obama supporters who gang up together to purposely engage in a pattern of thread hijacking and attempts to discredit the source of material that is negative towards Obama.

You gang together to control discourse and stifle dissent on CNN the way you gang together to control discourse and stifle dissent here, on Daily Kos, and elsewhere.


My name is Barney Gumble, and I'm an alcoholic. Lisa: This is a girl scouts meeting. Barney: Is it, or is it you girls can't admit that you have a problem?
by PJ Jefferson on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:36:50 AM EST

Re: And the funny thing is commenters in this thre (2.00 / 1)

So PJ, are you saying there are no Clinton "gangs" on this site?

Please take one look at the Rec list


Unable to rec or rate

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

by GeorgeP922 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:11:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Even if you hate Obama (2.00 / 6)

What possible benefit is there to the Democratic Party to allow the MSM free reign to attack our nominees?  I certainly don't remember any posts for a call to action demanding that CNN continue their Tuzla coverage.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:38:44 AM EST

The irony is staggering (2.00 / 9)

We're asking for grassroots to have less say in media news?

Friend, we only barely scratch the surface of corporate owned and corporate operated media as it is... and now you're annoyed that the people are finally speaking up to get the news away from non-issues and on the important problems such as the war, gas prices, housing crisis, and inflation?

You should be looking at DKos and saying, "Hey, if they can do this, then we can have a positive impact, too!"

Stop shilling for lowest-common-denominator corporate media and join the revolution.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:39:59 AM EST

Re: Call to Action: DailyKos members trying to get (1.50 / 4)

Wow, just like the actions of the Bush-ites back in 2000.
All the nasty actions and reactions from the Obama-followers and shills are hitting a fevered pitch.

When I saw what was happening with the deification of Obama back in January, I said it reminded me of 2000 and the Bush cabal.

I was right.  We do live in scary times.  Like at the end of Animal Farm, when you couldn't tell the pigs from the humans because they were one in the same.

Maybe Markos has become the new Karl Rove.


by stefystef on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:45:22 AM EST

Sigh (2.00 / 3)

Anna Belle,

When the youtube video of the Kantor allegedly calling Indianan's "white niggers" came out and was splashed over at DKos at Drudge, the first thing that came to mind was "good god, here we go again....."

Even when the Bosnia story broke and dominated the news, what kept popping up in my mind was not "Good! Make her suffer! Yea Yea Yea!!". It was "God dammit Hillary, tell the friggin truth already! Why is it so damned hard for you??!!"

My biggest issue with Hillary Clinton has been her honesty and truthfulness and sincerity. The Bosnia flap encapsulated everything that I despise about her and her husband, and the reason why I can never vote for them ever again.

But even in their darkest days, the only thing I've ever wanted was for them to be forthright and honest with us. To stop the political shenanigans and the posturing and the writing off of those who don't support them with blood oaths, e.g. caucus states and primaries that don't go their way.

And despite the fact that I just want them to take their ways and leave the stage for all time, I would never sit there and actively push for stories damaging to them personally to remain in the airwaves over and over and over again.

People are sick of Wright like they were sick of Monica Lewinsky. Why? Because that coverage crowds out everything else that we SHOULD be focused on.

Or did you really love the ABC debate where the first hour was spent on scandal and issues like gas prices got 30 seconds as a mere after thought?

Is that really the kind of discourse in our political sphere that you desire? Because that's what you're asking for. Plain and simple.

Honestly I think it's just sad.


by Yalin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:47:12 AM EST

just a funny aside.... (2.00 / 1)

jd roberts (john roberts) a veejay on muchmusic (canada's mtv)



"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:51:53 AM EST

For those of you who agree with me (2.00 / 1)

Have you contacted anyone at CNN yet? If so, thanks! If not, please do! And thank you.

Have you rec'ed this diary? If so, thanks! If not, please do, and thanks!


Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by anna belle on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:52:44 AM EST

Re: For those of you who agree with me (2.00 / 3)

By doing this you are guilty of what you are claiming.

No, please send your crazy petition to Hotair and Townhall.

I think Michelle Malkin would be proud of you guys.


Unable to rec or rate

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

by GeorgeP922 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:01:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: For those of you who agree with me (2.00 / 1)

Please see my post here: http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/5/5/10 841/60478/49#49


by Yalin on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:03:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]

You are asking Clinton supporters to (2.00 / 3)

do the very thing that you claim is wrong.  Or did you mean to say only Princess Hillary's supporters should be allowed to contact the media?

And as for your claim that contacting the media to let them know we are tired of beating a subject to death and would like them to move on to another topic...I see nothing wrong with it.

Unlike your schizophrenic position, I think it's fine for both Obama supporters and Clinton supporters to contact the media.


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:03:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: For those of you who agree with me (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, CNN could get in serious trouble for not meeting their monthly non-issue quota. Maybe they could make it up by doubling coverage of coffee machines, or something else equally meaningless?

Guys, you are getting upset that CNN is not covering a non-issue anymore. Because you suspect that they did it in response to dkos.

CNN is smart, and greedy. If they're moving on from Wright, it's because they realize there's no more profit in it, and people are changing the channel when it comes on.


Unable to rec or rate
Still supporting Obama
Still not putting up with "preening" posts
by jaiwithani on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:10:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]

hyperbole much? (none / 0)

This is just dueling citizen action. Sorry it pisses you off, but that's very telling.


Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
by anna belle on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:14:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Wright free zone (2.00 / 1)

CNN has been declared a "Wright-free zone".

Seems that they think people don't want to hear about it anymore.

http://thepage.time.com/on-mondays-morni ng-shows-2/


We have nothing to fear but fear itself. And clowns.
by haremoor on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:03:04 AM EST

I've gained a new respect for CNN \eom (2.00 / 2)


That One is the Right One for 2008.
by GFORD on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:04:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: CNN Not a News Station (2.00 / 1)

If the poster of this diary thinks that CNN is an actual "NEWS" station, he or she is sadly mistaken. CNN is and like FOX news is and always will be an "ENTERTAINMENT" station with a news slant.How else would you explain Larry King??? These stations are out for two things that are needed in any media entertainment venue. The two things you need in media are: VIEWERS,or LISTENERS,and ADVERTISING DOLLARS. Any kind of protest from any kind of viewer is to be taken seriously. If you don't think this is true just ask any host or general manager who's been "let out of his contract" by CNN or Fox NEWS, they will tell you they were let go because A: Ratings were down or B: Revenue was down. Not gee it was a slow news period. These people are paid to entertain. Or else you or any other person could host a program.


John McCain: Everyones nowhere man
by johnny sexton on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:11:21 AM EST

You mean like (none / 0)

Hillary supporters and SNL convincing the media that everyone is being so tough on her?


by highgrade on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:19:48 AM EST

Democrats mad at CNN listening to Democrats? (2.00 / 1)

this is shameful. you are a Democrat, and you're mad that CNN is listening to DEMOCRATS?

just admit it, you're a ReThug now.  


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:27:18 PM EST


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