Agreed - and saying that all tax cuts is the same is ridiculous. A gas tax cut that would go straight into the oil companies' pockets, or a tax cut for middle class americans - I realize it's never that simple, but c'mon! You act like there's no difference!

I'm with him on the gas tax.  But what's this $1000 he's talking about, and how does he plan to pay for it?  Just more federal debt to pass off to the next generation?

Heh.  The original line: "Reality has a liberal bias." is one of my all-time favorites.

I approve your usage of it. :)

Did you miss Gallup today?

Dude, what's to cherry pick.  Polls were important three days ago.  No, they were EVERYTHING a few days ago.  They were not everything when Obama had a 10 point lead.  If you're going to run with polls telling breathlessly telling us the tide has turned, then when those polls turn you are obligated (if you're honest) to tell us the tide has turned again.  Of course that would be silly, but it is fun to point out that poll-touters of a few days ago have suddenly lost the ability to type.

People talk plenty of smack on this site, a lot of it not really helpfpul.

What's up with the name calling?

A flat $1,000 to the middle class. What constitutes middle class these days?  How about the poor? Nothing for them? No details provided... seems like major pandering to me.

That wouldn't be the true parallel. She really ought to just give Americans $35 limit Shell, BP, or ExxonMobil credit cards. Oh, and sabotage the transportation budget somehow.

Interesting tactic.  If Obama will give me $1000, I might vote for him one day after all.

You should really listen to her explanation of her short-term plan and her long-term on oil/gas taxes and prices.

When you listen only to Obama's twist on it, you get a very distorted version of the truth.

Ah hem...he voted for a gas tax holiday THREE times. His opposition is pandering because he needs to find a purposeful gap issue with Hillary to oppose her on. Obviously, it must have worked the first two times if he voted for it again and again...so what's the deal?

TR for personal insult.

that would be "he pandered before he didn't."  I understand you might have some problem with linear time, so I just wanted to correct the record.

From the new CBS poll, about the gas tax:

The poll also asked voters about their opinion of lifting the federal gas tax over the summer, a proposal supported by McCain and Clinton, but not by Obama. Forty-nine percent think lifting the tax is a bad idea, while 45 percent approve of the plan. Most Republicans approve of the idea and most independents disapprove, while Democrats are divided. Americans are also divided on this issue by income: Americans making under $30,000 a year approve of a gas tax "holiday" for the summer, but most Americans making more do not.

The poll also found that many are skeptical of the motives of the public figures that support the idea of a temporary lifting of the federal gasoline tax: seven in 10 think they support the measure mostly to help themselves politically. Even most Americans who approve of the idea think so.

In this poll, Clinton is the candidate most viewed as pandering: Just 34 percent think she says what she believes, while nearly two in three believe she says what people want to hear. For both Obama and McCain, just over half say they say what he believes and four in 10 think they say what voters want to hear.

"Obama got a big Sunday bump on the Gallup daily tracking poll to lead Clinton by 3 percent now."

Poll shows Obama 49-Clinton 45.  Wouldn't that be 4 percent?

Clinton's proposal will do absolutely zero for working Americans, inflated energy costs or the economy. Obama's middle class tax cut together with his tax package will help working Americans and the economy.

Not a difficult choice to make.

I couldn't even figure out what that blockquote was even doing there.  Pretty random.

Hillary has already said that she would work to return the tax rates to what they were during Bill's administration.  

Its your daily management endorsed Obama attacks. I think its his goal to be a stereotypical foil for Kos.

Me too, people cannot take a joke around here, they need to lighten up.

Bush will veto any windfall profits tax.

Didn't Clinton say she planned on spending the windfall profits tax on alternative energy technologies already?  It can't offset the gas tax if it's already spent on other things.

Also, regarding this being called "Hilary's gas plan": people, please don't give any credit, or any blame, to Hilary for this gas tax cut proposal.  It was McCain's stupid idea in the first place, and if it wasn't for him, Hilary wouldn't have come out with this proposal at all.  She copied it, and just put a little Dem twist on it without thinking it through.  

She does deserve blame however for doing a "me-too" with McCain's proposal.  She should recognize any Republican proposal should be treated with suspicion, not that it's great for America or a political winner.  

So stealthy she'll never ever get it passed with Bus as president. What guile! What a plan!

I hope this isn't what the Clinton campaign is putting out as why we should support the "holiday." First it was to give relief to tax payers. When every economist, from the Heritage Foundation to Krugman says that is bunk, it now becomes a wedge issue to beat the GOP over the head.  

Obama doesn't have enough delegates so we aren't stuck with him yet thank god and if somehow we are stuck with him as a nominee he will never be President and we will be stuck with McCain and stuck in Iraq

The colloquialism for it is 'Rovian'...

Did the article really refer to her as "actively cultivating" the working class voters?

That sounds somewhat devious - if not, uh, elitist.

At this point, I would support her even more if she did that.

Don't get out much do ya, pal. Many in the threads elsewhere are starting to compare Barry with Mr. Decider both given every advantage and now arrogant enough to believe they were fukin' born on third. People are asking what planet Barry's on. His understanding of Americans, white ones, never very good as his books show has turned into almost caricature.

The primary race has come down to whether The Magic Man's wholly fabricated persona as Senator 'Hope' disintegrates  before the convention.

Gotta love the transition don't ya? First it was , 'Yes we can!' and now it's,

'No she can't....'

Nice.
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I guess Wright is proving to have fizzled out... Quick, lets associate Obama with someone else shady!

because there is no relevance. None. Nada. Zilch.

In fact, I would call this sublimal racial sterotyping, if, yes, if, JA wouldnt have threatened everyone accusing anyone with racism, racial insensitivity or racial stereoptyping with getting banned, their user privileges revoked etc.

Again: Citing a story from a British conservative newspaper about drug use of one of Obamas supporters has no discerníble relevance either to the ad described in this post, nor to the gas tax issue. Its also not a currently discussed issue, nor an issue in Indiana or NC between BO and HRC.

So why did Jerome bring it up? Right. Obama did drugs in his youth, so his supporters are just like him. See. Or the more drastic version: You really have to have taken drugs to fall for BOs hope propaganda.

Sick. Disgusting. Rovian.

Jerome. People are laughing about YOU! I would do so too, if it wouldnt make me so sad to see a once respected member of the progressive blogosphere descend into rants, wild spinning and swiftboating of the democratic nominee for president.

I have been on this site since 2003 and had a similar candidate history like you (Clark, Gore, Edwards) but then we diverged. I and my brilliant candidate JRE lost with style. Your are loosing the primary race and with it all your remaining dignity!

You believe you are clever by leaving out the race and ethnicity of the supposed crack smoking drug user now supporting BO? 99% of Americans will imagine that person to be black. People simply do not associate a white guy with smoking crack.

We are supposed to hold back with any criticism of you as being racially insensitive because, well, you are saying so. Because you say, that you arent racist and that we should simply believe you. Well. Actions speak louder than words. And you are making it awfully hard for us to believe you.

Your spin is getting more ridiculous than the official one from the HRC campaign. If you start sounding more desperate and delusioned than Mark Penn in his best days you really ought to look at yourself in the mirror.    

and give HIllary W. Virginia while you're at it. She's polling better then McJohnny.

this place isn't the denial "monster" that TL is. This place is quite "moderate" in its overall denial in fact.