Gitmo, Leadership, and British Cats: Recommended Reading for a Sunday Afternoon

As far as I'm concerned, anything Nick Kristof writes is required reading. I can hardly say the same for the increasingly self-important Thomas "Six Months" Friedman, but today's column reminds us how he got his cushy gig in the first place.

Kristof's "A Prison of Shame, and It's Ours" chronicles the stories of several innocent people locked up in Guantanamo Bay, providing a compelling argument for why we need to close the place yesterday:

Mahvish Rukhsana Khan, an American woman of Afghan descent who worked as an interpreter, has written a book to be published next month, "My Guantánamo Diary," that is wrenching to read. She describes a pediatrician who returned to Afghanistan in 2003 to help rebuild his country -- and was then arrested by Americans, beaten, doused with icy water and paraded around naked. Finally, after three years, officials apparently decided he was innocent and sent him home...

The new material suggests two essential truths about Guantánamo:

First, most of the inmates were probably innocent all along, but Pakistanis or Afghans turned them over to America in exchange for large cash rewards. The moment we offered $25,000 rewards for Al Qaeda supporters, any Arab in the region risked being kidnapped and turned over as a terrorism suspect.

Second, torture was routine, especially early on. That's why more than 100 prisoners have died in American custody in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantánamo...

When I started writing about Guantánamo several years ago, I thought the inmates might be lying and the Pentagon telling the truth. No doubt some inmates lie, and some surely are terrorists. But over time -- and it's painful to write this -- I've found the inmates to be more credible than American officials.

Both Condoleezza Rice and Robert Gates have pushed to shut down Guantánamo because it undermines America's standing and influence. They have been overruled by Dick Cheney and other hard-liners. In reality, it would take an exceptional enemy to damage America's image and interests as much as President Bush and Mr. Cheney already have with Guantánamo.

January 20 can't come soon enough. 261 days left...

In "Who Will Tell the People?", Friedman looks at America's crumbling power and economy, and suggests that it will take bold leadership and vision to restore us to our previous heights.

We are not as powerful as we used to be because over the past three decades, the Asian values of our parents' generation -- work hard, study, save, invest, live within your means -- have given way to subprime values: "You can have the American dream -- a house -- with no money down and no payments for two years."...

A few weeks ago, my wife and I flew from New York's Kennedy Airport to Singapore. In J.F.K.'s waiting lounge we could barely find a place to sit. Eighteen hours later, we landed at Singapore's ultramodern airport, with free Internet portals and children's play zones throughout. We felt, as we have before, like we had just flown from the Flintstones to the Jetsons. If all Americans could compare Berlin's luxurious central train station today with the grimy, decrepit Penn Station in New York City, they would swear we were the ones who lost World War II.

How could this be? We are a great power. How could we be borrowing money from Singapore? Maybe it's because Singapore is investing billions of dollars, from its own savings, into infrastructure and scientific research to attract the world's best talent -- including Americans.

Caution: Friedman ends with some harsh but brief words for the Clinton campaign, and similarly brief praise for Barack Obama's rhetoric. That's hardly why I recommend the article, but don't say I didn't warn you.

I leave you with this third insightful commentary, Friday's "Get Fuzzy" courtesy the funny papers.



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Flatbrain Friedman (none / 0)

is a corporate tool, so whoever he endorses, you know you want to vote for the other one.

I'm not kidding, he has no comprehension of economics, regurgitates drivel per his corporate elite CEO pals and his billionaire wife and promotes policies that are ruining this nation economically...

so whoever he thinks is great, trust me, vote for the other one.


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by Robert Oak on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:42:18 PM EST

Re: Flatbrain Friedman (none / 0)

I think you take things a little too far - every candidate has intelligent, sophisticated supporters and everyone has puffed-up featherbrains. But be that as it may, I believe the New York Times forbids its columnists from writing endorsements of specific candidates. Friedman found a way around that in November 2006 by urging his readers not to vote for specific candidates but for a specific party.

This current column is, of course, far from an endorsment. He pans Clinton's campaign style, but also says he's not sure if Obama is capable of the kind of leadership he's looking for either.


The Wayward Episcopalian
by Transplanted Texan on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:47:42 PM EST
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Re: Flatbrain Friedman (2.00 / 1)

I don't think so because there have been a series of "globalization is good" economists who have endorsed Obama, which in my view, bodes ill.


NoSlaves.com | The Economic Populist
by Robert Oak on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:53:35 PM EST
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Well, it's not all bad - (2.00 / 1)

but the government hasn't offered its citizens a hand up in the global scene.  This is a 360 degree turnaround for Friedman - come on - hasn't anyone read this guy before.

Both Clinton and Obama are centrists - I would be very surprised if Sen. Obama turned out to be anything but business as usual in the global market.

 


by Xanthe on Mon May 05, 2008 at 12:02:10 PM EST
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Re: Gitmo, Leadership, and British Cats: Recommend (2.00 / 3)

We got that way because we listened to immoral fools like Friedman. We got that way because we exported our jobs to China, because we fought wars of aggression with money we borrowed from China.


by Alice Marshall on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:44:55 PM EST

Re: Gitmo, Leadership, and British Cats: Recommend (2.00 / 1)

I wouldn't call him immoral - just wrong. No argument from me on the fool-word, though.

Kristof and Herbert are the two I look to for consistent insight and strong moral foundations.


The Wayward Episcopalian
by Transplanted Texan on Sun May 04, 2008 at 05:52:08 PM EST
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Re: Gitmo, Leadership, and British Cats: Recommend (2.00 / 1)

After reading about as much of this liberal babble as I could stomach, I have decided to enlighten some people with insight into war and comparisons. First thing is first, when a war is started by some big headed official in DC and hundreds of thousands of members of our armed forces are sent to some desolate countries in search of some one im not even sure exists... we're bound to make a handful of enemies. These peaople are not afraid to die because of the relentless brainwashing they have been subjected to most of their lives, and they will stop at nothing to kill and/or capture as many Americans as possible. During my fifteen month tour in Iraq my platoon and I were sent on countless missions out on the streets, and every time you get that look from some random Iraqi you get a "we're gonna die" gut feeling. You can never be too careful of who and how you capture and interrogate when almost everyone around you wants you and your friends dead. I see no problem with the ways of Guantanamo Bay or any other EPW prison sites, we treat our prisoner extremely well compared to the way an American wiil get treated if captured. Just ask any of our POWs we were lucky enough to get back, they will tell you their time in whatever place they were shoved into was no family day at the zoo. Secondly comparing NYC the mecca of urban civilization to Singapore a small republic in Southeast Asia is like comparing an ant colony to dog kennel. I lived in New York for most of my life and have taken the subway into Penn Station and as far as i can see there is nothing wrong with it... its a NYC subway station. The public transportation system in NYC is just that, no frills transportation. If one is too high and mighty or afraid to ride with the rest of us take a cab. In conclusion all is fair in love and war and dont go comparing the way we function to other countries.


by Johnny Vulgar on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:01:58 PM EST

Re: Gitmo, Leadership, and British Cats: Recommend (none / 0)

I see no problem with the ways of Guantanamo Bay or any other EPW prison sites, we treat our prisoner extremely well compared to the way an American wiil get treated if captured.

I deeply respect and thank you for your service and sacrifice. However, I have always found statements like the above quote to be extremely absurd, no matter how credible their source. You certainly are credible and your presence here is welcomed, your opening rhetoric aside, but defending our actions by comparing them to the scum of the earth is no defense at all. Our country is great enough, and its values important enough, that we can and must set the standard higher than merely making sure we're not quite as bad as al-Qaeda henchmen. I would also point that it's a bit hypocritical to make that comparison and then turn around and say, "dont go comparing the way we function to other countries."

Besides, Guantanmo Bay makes no sense on a strategic level. The Red Cross - hardly an institution of "liberal babble," Elizabeth Dole used to run the place - has estimated that 95% of the prisoners once held at Abu Ghraib were innocent. When you imprison innocent people, you piss off their relatives and their countrymen and rally more of them to arms against you. That's exactly what happened here: 3000 innocent Americans were killed on 9/11, and we (rightly) got pissed off and (rightly) responded. Imprisoning anyone who has even a 2% chance of being a threat may seem like self-defense in the short run, but in the long run, it only makes conditions all the more dangerous, just as 9/11 only made things more dangerous for al-Qaeda rather than advancing their goals.


The Wayward Episcopalian
by Transplanted Texan on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:18:22 PM EST
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Re: Gitmo, Leadership, and British Cats: Recommend (2.00 / 1)

 Well I thank you for the welcome and for your constructive criticism. One thing is that I beleive in an eye for an eye. When you capture an american contractor and decapitate him then proceed to post it on the internet... you have just justified any and or all actions taken against your outfit. Whether humane or not. Yes, I was being a slight bit hypocritical with that statement. Then again all is fair in love and war, mainly war. In the short scheme of things any and all information aquired through any interrogation processes are pieces of the puzzle. Once most of this puzzle is completed less American lives will be lost in a fight a few of us dont agree with in the first place.


by Johnny Vulgar on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:55:08 PM EST
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Almost forgot - I ride a subway to and from work everyday myself. I think what Friedman is saying about Penn Station isn't that he's too good for it, but that "the rest of us" could have it better, that with different leadership the standard of living in this country and the quality of our infrastructure could be higher. As wonderful as America is, it can always be better, and what's wrong with forward-thinking optimism?


The Wayward Episcopalian
by Transplanted Texan on Sun May 04, 2008 at 06:44:47 PM EST
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With all of our money being dumped into "the wars" (on terrorism, crime, drugs, etc.) and other peoples problems (i.e. African epidemics and slum lords of third world provinces) and start some funding and/or charity efforts to help the US work twoards this "eutopian society". Personally I think advancing our so called "quaility of life" will only aggrivate the downfall of our civilization by removing humanity from our daily lives.


by Johnny Vulgar on Sun May 04, 2008 at 11:12:40 PM EST
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