Let's play nice peeps.

No use in rubbing it in.  : )

I checked a few other podcast sites and they didn't have any recent episodes.  I guess I overlooked this one.  This is sweet; I love the show but am usually busy around this time.

Thanks again!

Once the delegate race has been settled, Sen. Clinton's campaigning against Sen. Obama will mean something completely different. When she attacks him now, she is within her rights as a potential nominee. But once the party does the group hug, Kumbaya moment next week, if Clinton were to voice anything but full-voiced support for the nominee-in-waiting, she would be considered off base. Continued criticism of Obama would be beyond the pale: she'd join Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman as "Democratic" pariahs.

I don't expect her to take that path.

Hell, as a white guy it pisses me off. Is our system perfect? No, but it's all we've got, and he won fair and square within it. The idea that that should be overturned because Clinton really, really wants it is absurd.

I never claimed she was losing from the very beginning. She was the national front runner by a mile. She had all of the early advantages.

She ran a lousy campaign. She had huge polling leads in almost every state and ended up losing them to an unknown. Great campaigners don't do that.

I think it'd be a terrible waste if she didn't stay around.  She's an intelligent and strong woman and i for one WANT her in the Senate.  I can't imagine she'd walk away.

Could she get enough other people to leave with her to start a legitimate third party?

I don't think so, and I don't think it would be a good thing- but it would be an interesting conversation: a couple governors, a few senators, a few congressmen and a bunch of lower level elected officials looking for some Clinton love. Make Bill the head of this new party and see if they can raise the money...

Like I said, I don't think it would happen but it is an interesting thought. I have always wished we had more real parties personally.

That's fine.  Clinton ignored Brown in 92 after he did the same thing H. Clinton is doing now.

After Tuesday Obama just needs to pull a Clinton on Clinton.

(and because of how convuluted that sentence was we need to stop with the dynastic presidencies)

That seems to be the case, but I think we should try to expect the best from Clinton (as hard as that might sound to an Obama supporter after this primary).

She's been a democrat forever and I really have to believe she doesn't want to hurt the party's chances in November any more than she has*.  It's a nasty web in which we're entangled, and she has to be very careful how she disengages (if the supers don't suddenly change course and endorse her, obviously).

*Can't really argue that she was doing something wrong...a lot of people invested a lot of money and effort in her campaign, so I understand why it seemed like she got a little desperate, even if I wish she hadn't.

Like I said, though, without something dramatic happening, it'll be over. As far as the "truth" goes, that's it- and we both seem to agree there. But it won't be a gradual thing- if something happens, it'll be sharp and sudden and massive. In any other circumstance, I don't see how either candidate could heal the rift in the party- an issue I haven't seen you address.

Now, I've yet to see you recognize the variety of reasons that explain why Clinton's numbers are polling positively that don't relate to a genuine upswell for her, or downswell for Obama. Realize there's less polls of her, which skews the numbers upwards; she's not being attacked like Obama is (she hasn't been touched by McCain in... ever, but months, at least), and Obama supporters will gladly note their support for Senator Clinton on these polling calls, where Clinton supporters have been more reluctant to.

But that trend has been disappearing- look at the Wisconsin slot on the electoral map on this page. Keep on hoping, Bob, there's nothing wrong with that. But don't be too offended if we take that prediction with a grain of salt.

isn't it. Nothing in this election season was fair & square. The media manipulated it all the way and suckers fell right in line. From what I can see with Obama's weakening support among key demographics, the Wright/Pfelar/Rezko/Ayers radical friends of Obama waiting to be hung about his neck in attack ads, we'll be lucky if we 10 states. As far as I'm concerned, we're going to lose anyway, cuz we're typical loser democrats afterall, we may as well go out with a big bang. So for me anything blows and anything goes now. Just need popcorn.

I am not sure if she would have to give them back IF she ran as an independent. But I am not an expert on such rules. I think of nothing else she could certainly make a case.

the monster bitch

with her white entitlement self

who ain't ever been called a n'ggr

whose husband was riding the dems & monica dirty

who would love to have Obama assassinated

is truly loved by all in her party.

She'd be lucky not to get primaried for her Senate seat.

I mean, Kennedy took her aside and relayed his personal experience with that path not going well.  She's had her warning.

and hopes he comes home safely. I have two of those myself still in school. Their future aint too bright right now. And here is the democrats putting up the weakest/least qualified racially divisive candidate against a warrior. I suppose that is why I am so angry at the party because from where I stand right now, things look pretty grim for the fall.

Peace to you and yours.

Reverend Wright & Father Pfidiot. They have great talking points.