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No Pander Left Unturned

by Tatan, Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:54:57 AM EST

In a craven political pander today Senator Hillary Clinton pledged voting rights to Guam. As reported by Jack Tapper:

In an interview with KUAM-TV, Clinton, asked about giving Guam citizens the right to vote for president, said, "It seems to me that it is long past time that we remedy this inequity. It doesn't reflect American values; it is out of step with the move towards equality and full citizenship rights, and I will do everything I can to make sure the people of Guam's vote are counted."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/ 2008/05/stumping-for-de.html

The Senator is now promising to rewrite the constitution in an attempt to squeeze out an extra delegate from Guam.

Just like the gas tax, HRC leaves no pander unturned.

Tags: HRC, Clinton, Guam, delegate, pander, pander-bear (all tags)

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Re: No Pander Left Unturned (2.00 / 1)

No doubt it is pander, but I can't see why the people who live under US rule in our territories should no be allowed the same rights as US citizens.

by DreamsOfABlueNation on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:05:07 AM EST

Reply to your comment below n/t (none / 0)

by Tatan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:28:11 AM EST
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Re: No Pander Left Unturned (2.00 / 1)

So did Obama, their positions on Guam are precisely the same it seems

by eumc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:08:45 AM EST

Link? n/t (none / 0)

by Tatan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:13:18 AM EST
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Troll rated for not backing up your claims (none / 0)

I've been unable to find a quote with BO pandering on this issue. And you've been unwilling to provide a link. Post a link and I'll be happy to remove the TR.

by Tatan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:09:50 PM EST
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Re: Troll rated for not backing up your claims (none / 0)

by eumc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:56:02 PM EST
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Re: Troll rated for not backing up your claims (none / 0)

I couldn't find the link myself, I was quite sure of reading it. That's it, sorry

by eumc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:58:26 PM EST
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Re: Troll rated for not backing up your claims (none / 0)

TR removed

by Tatan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:30:11 PM EST
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Re: Troll rated for not backing up your claims (none / 0)

That's inappropriate use of TR. Please remove.

by aggieric on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:35:10 PM EST
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Re: Troll rated for not backing up your claims (none / 0)

Already removed... see above.

by Tatan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:47:28 PM EST
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Re: No Pander Left Unturned (2.00 / 0)

Certainly every U.S citizen should have a say in our presidential elections. But that would require a constitutional ammendment. A process which takes decades and which doesn't require any sort of presidential power. She could have been working on this for the past 20 years if it meant anything to her... And in all likelihood it would be on the verge of happening now.

If she wasn't so busy pandering.

by Tatan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:11:59 AM EST

Re: No Pander Left Unturned (none / 0)

A Const Amend is not necessarily needed if we accord statehood to our major territories like Guam and Puerto Rico.

by DreamsOfABlueNation on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:41:25 AM EST
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P.R. has had multiple referendums on statehood and they have all failed. Statehood requires congressional and local approval.

by Tatan on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:11:11 AM EST
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Re: No Pander Left Unturned (2.00 / 1)

We can't just bestow statehood on a territory. They have to vote for it as well. I know Puerto Rico repeatedly rejects statehood. Not sure about Guam, but I imagine it's similar. Territory status is actually pretty sweet, if you don't care who the national leaders are.

John McCain wants to make abortion illegal

by Lost Thought on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:15:35 AM EST
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She will say anything (none / 0)

This is disgusting.

Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

by Blue Neponset on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:05:16 AM EST

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hey at least she is not bowling gutter balls, using Malcolm X phrases and posting slimy youtube videos. Look at yourself and your hero's campaign first and then talk about pander!

by tarheel74 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 09:05:30 AM EST

Re: No Pander Left Unturned (none / 0)

This woman is pretty sick! No?

by Hope Monger 2008 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:40:11 AM EST

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She pandered - Oh! My! G-d!
Yes, Hillary panders, alot. Barack doesn't? If an Obama supporter believes their candidate does not participate in pandering, then, well... ...that explains much.

Let's not forget the mother of all panders: Obama pulling his name off the MI ballot to pander to Iowa and NH. For a candidate who is supposed to be all about change he was happy with the status-quo regarding first in the nation 'rights' for Iowa and NH. I thought the netroots was against that? I thought teh netroots wanted to lesson te power Iowa and NH have in choosing D & R presidential candidates. Perhaps allow other states like AZ or NJ or MT or TN or say, MICHAGAN and FLORIDA the chance to participate in the primary process.

Not Obama - the pander paid off, he won in Iowa and avoided a blow out in NH. I don't fault Obama for that blantant pandering (just as I don't fault him for bowling - a type of pandering), but don't be silly and get bent out of shape that you can find examples of Hillary pandering.

by oaktownchicken on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:09:55 AM EST

Re: No Pander Left Unturned (2.00 / 1)

For me, it is more about the absence of non-pandering with Clinton. I can't think of any instances where she took the non-pander road when her rival(s) took the pander road.

John McCain wants to make abortion illegal

by Lost Thought on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:18:08 AM EST
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Re: No Pander Left Unturned (none / 0)

How about MI - Edwards & Obama pandered. Clinton, rightfully, did not and she has paid the price hard in this campaign for that courage. She lost Iowa, didn't get a blowour in NH. This changed the course of teh campaign for Clinton (negatively) and Obama (positively). Obama's pandering paid off big, and Clinton got punished hard for not pandering.

by oaktownchicken on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:33:57 AM EST
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Re: No Pander Left Unturned (none / 0)

barack wanting to disenfranchise MI and FL, not wearing a flag pin, not pandering to Daily Kos?

"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States

by DiamondJay on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:35:15 PM EST

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