MyDD :: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!!

Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!!

by LadyEagle, Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:21:47 PM EST

The final results are in.

Obama 50.1

Clinton 49.9

What a squeaker, but this is still encouraging since Obama was supposed to win by 11%

http://www.kuam-media.com/news/demcaucus /results.htm

Obama actually won by seven votes. This should be a sobering lesson to all of us regarding the importance of our votes. This is as close to a tie as one can get. Indiana and Noth Carolina Clinton supporters get on the telephine and GOTV for her. This is indeed momentum.

Tags: Guam, Clinto, Obama (all tags)

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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 3)

HILLMENTUM!

his spreadsheet was way off.

by zane on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:22:33 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

Interesting way of looking at things. It's sort of like saying that the 20,000 jobs we lost last month is a sigh of relief because we were expected to lose many, many more jobs.

A win is a win.

by Brad G on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:27:37 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 2)

just commenting on the shift in momentum, in a province he was expected to clean up in, he won by 7 votes.

by zane on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:28:55 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

His spreadsheet was dead on. They got it 100% right when it came to what mattered in this race, which is the delegate count.

by Bobby Obama on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:43:09 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 2)

Wow, a difference of SEVEN votes. That's wild. Lot better than the expectations.

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:22:43 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 2)

Hillary is on a roll.

Wisdom Is The Reward For Listening Over A Lifetime

by gunner on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:29:36 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 3)

Don't take the Diary down because I think it says it all. Earlier, didn't Obama's people predict he'd win Guam by 10+ points?

by zenful6219 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:24:32 PM EST

How many more votes (none / 0)

would have taken it to a 10% gap?

Doesn't take much to move the percentage when the total number is so small.

by Bee on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:31:48 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 2)

why the hell couldn't they find 7 people , hell i have 7 hillary supporters in the house right now. lol

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:26:16 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (1.71 / 7)

The buses from Illinois couldn't make it to Guam to help Obama.

by zenful6219 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:35:40 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 2)

This is really amazing.

I am both anxious about and looking forward to Tuesday.

by OtherLisa on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:26:47 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: (2.00 / 2)

Are they going to have a recount?

No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!

by Ga6thDem on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:26:47 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

What is the logic of including U.S. territories in the nominating process when they don't have any electoral votes in the Fall election?

It's time to restore balance and fairness to our economy,... It's time to stop giving tax cuts to corporations that ship jobs overseas... - Barack Obama

by Lefty Coaster on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:26:58 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

Maybe they can donate money to political parties?--If so, it would make sense to give them some small representation in the party.

by Wes on Sat May 03, 2008 at 09:49:36 PM EST
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wow, she really did great (2.00 / 3)

she was supposed to lose by 10 points. Plus, wasn't he ahead by like 11 points in the most recent polls?
I wonder what changed.

For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!

by TeresaInPa on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:27:04 PM EST

Re: wow, she really did great (none / 0)

Still a loss, however. You don't win by performing far better than expected. Just ask Mike Huckabee.

by Brad G on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:29:10 PM EST
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Re: wow, she really did great (2.00 / 1)

In a proportional representation, the margin of victory is actually very important.

I thought we all knew that at this stage in the game...?

2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.

by BPK80 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:32:17 PM EST
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Re: wow, she really did great (2.00 / 1)

Actually according to Obama rules, he didn't win, he only tied.

No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!

by Ga6thDem on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:35:06 PM EST
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7 votes=1 extra SD (2.00 / 1)

That's what counts.

by sweet potato pie on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:30:25 PM EST
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Re: wow, she really did great (none / 0)

Please find us this poll you are claiming to cite.

by Bobby Obama on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:43:50 PM EST
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keep taking those moral victories! (2.00 / 1)

obama grew his delegate lead today, and there are less delegates remaining. everything else is irrelevant.

by loolool on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:27:43 PM EST

Re: keep taking those moral victories! (2.00 / 3)

including that great big elephant standing in the middle of the room.

by zane on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:29:54 PM EST
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lol (2.00 / 1)

spin spin spin on...

For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!

by TeresaInPa on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:31:10 PM EST
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Re: lol (none / 0)

spin? this nomination will be won by the candidate with the most delegates. how could pointing out todays delegate margin possibly be considered spin?

by loolool on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:57:54 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 2)

Whoa baby. That is definitely NOT a loss!

TexasDarlin blog

by TexasDarlin on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:27:46 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 1)

Obama will pick up the two super delegates from this race. One of the add-ons from Guam said she would support whoever got the most votes in Guam, score one for Obama.

by mecarr on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:28:16 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 1)

If you don't think they're going to have a recount, then you're silly.

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:32:54 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

call me silly then.

by mecarr on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:33:18 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

It won't change the delegate split.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:26:59 PM EST
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it looks like they are going (2.00 / 2)

to get the same amount of delegates. I wonder how the super Delegates will go?

For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!

by TeresaInPa on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:29:00 PM EST

Re: it looks like they are going (none / 0)

Explained here:

http://www.guampdn.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art icle?AID=/20080504/NEWS01/805040306/1002

The Pilar Lujan/Jaime Paulino won the race for Democratic Party Chairman/Vice Chairman, and one has said they'll support Obama, the other said they'll support the Guam popular vote winner (presumably Obama, barring a reversal in the event of a recount).

by alphaaqua on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:34:41 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

Recount. That's way too close.

by KyleSIU on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:29:13 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

A difference of 7 votes is pretty wild. It shows that the predicted Obama win by a large margin didn't come anywhere near as close. A recount would cost money. Is it worth it. Actually, both of them should demand a recount. Good practise for the GE where the Democratic winner will be somehow forced into defending rightfully won votes.

Barack Obama is my President

by Jeter on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:35:48 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

Yeah take your protest to Guam; good luck on sailing to the Pacific Ocean...

by SHIBAM8P on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:06:18 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 2)

A win is a win.....but weren't some of you BO fans saying that if Hillary didn't win PA by double digits it was a win for Obama?

Nice to know you agree with Hillary!

A win is a win....but this means things are changing for Obama and they are changing fast!

by boxer4hrc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:32:26 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 1)

BO said himself that Indiana would be a tie breaker. Of course he was ahead in the polls at the time.

Wisdom Is The Reward For Listening Over A Lifetime

by gunner on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:58:46 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 1)

Anyone wants to rec this dairy so we can savor this shift to our candidate for a while longer?

"The Bumble Bee flies because it thinks it can."

by LadyEagle on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:34:50 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (1.40 / 5)

Probably find out Hillary won once the usual Obama chicanery gets shaken out. The kids that support him have no morals

by coolofthenight on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:35:14 PM EST

Both SDs to Obama (2.00 / 1)

It's fascinating to see how Obama wins by losing
as he gets two SDs from Guam.

Unless she wins both in IN and NC, she won't get many more SDs.

by mikelow1885 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:36:35 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

Looks like 420 votes were "spoiled" - any idea what that means?

by alamedadem on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:37:27 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

That's a common term in elections. Spoiled ballots are ones where it's not clear who the person was voting for, perhaps because the voter appeared to vote for both. For example, the name of one candidate is circled and there's an arrow pointing to another.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:29:50 PM EST
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Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (none / 0)

this just in... NO ONE CARES ABOUT GUAM.

Who killed our leaders? Who holds our reins? Who is our enemy?

by dem sam on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:42:47 PM EST

Re: Guam Primary: Obama 50.1, Clinton 49.9 !!! (2.00 / 1)

Since Hillary won more votes from Democrats in a democratic primary shouldn't her supporters be just as upset if the SD gives the election to Barack?

After all none of them can reach 2024 without assistance.

"The Bumble Bee flies because it thinks it can."

by LadyEagle on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:55:09 PM EST

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