MyDD :: Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title)

Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title)

by Al Rodgers, Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:16:25 PM EST

Where I use satire to diagram racism:

What must Obama do next?

Harold Ford Jr. -- not so long ago the rising black politician within Democratic ranks -- now heads an arm of the party that seeks to keep its focus on "middle" America and crafting centrist messages: the Democratic Leadership Council. Often vilified by liberal activists, the DLC sees itself as quintessentially practical.

From that perspective, and in the wake of Hillary Clinton's win in the Pennsylvania primary, Ford just set a political bar for the black politician that surpassed him in prominence.

"You have to win Indiana," Ford told Barack Obama (via an interview on MSNBC). And, Ford added, Obama has to "steamroll" Clinton in the other state with a primary two Tuesdays from now, North Carolina.

The Obama camp will not publicly embrace that equation. But for him to truly regain the momentum he captured during his February surge, most party pros will see Ford's formulation as spot-on.

-- Don Frederick Pro Clinton - LA Times blogger

April 22, 2008 (Full text of post)

Hillary Clinton is mentioned twice in this blog post, but her color is never identified. But luckily, Harold Ford's and Barack Obama's color were identified for the reader.

You see, the writer implies Harold Ford is connected to Obama.

But just how are they connected?

Are they from the same state? No.

Are did they attend the same school? No.

Do they both belong to the DLC? No.

Is it because they're both men? No. He doesn't mention their gender, he doesn't even identify Hillary's gender.

Are they related by blood or marriage? No.

Hmmm. What is it. What connects them? What can if be?

Oh, I know, they're black! Got it.

Thankfully the blogger informs us that Harold and Barack are BOTH black.

Phew!!

I'm glad, I read this article, I had no idea!

OMG! Barack Obama and Harold Ford are black!! Did you know that? I didn't. I sure am glad he cleared that up. I thought they were Cuban.

But I'm confused, he doesn't tell us what's Hillary's color?

Now would he leave that out?

Hmmmmm, I wonder why?

Is Hillary Clinton white or black? I don't know. Is The LA Times' creep didn't tell us. I'm gonna have to do some research!!

HAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHA!

What a piece of shit post.

SHAME ON YOU, LA TIMES!!!

SHAME ON YOU!!

Any wonder why charges of the race card are invoked?

Instead of touting an empty and odious piece of shit argument, Clinton supporters should be rejecting and denouncing this LA Times blogger and his kind of racism.

Tags: Hillary Clinton, Racism, LA Times, troll, another (all tags)

Permalink :: 48 Comments :: Post a Comment

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (2.00 / 2)

Oh please that has nothing to do with Hillary stop trying to put this load of crap off on Hillary!

by boxer4hrc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:19:18 PM EST

where did I say that (2.00 / 1)

where did I say this has something to do with Hillary?

To the contrary, I ask Hillary's supporter to join me and reject and denounce this form of racism.

When history calls on you, you can not turn your back. That is, for all decent human beings.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:26:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: where did I say that (none / 0)

your a joke! you demand we hillary supporters denounce this article, but i have never once seen YOU OR OTHER BO SUPPORTERS denouce calling hillary "Billary"

Your on your own buddy!

by boxer4hrc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:29:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

you just said that (2.00 / 1)

this is ridiculous.

you just said, "stop trying to put this load of crap off on Hillary!"

And I said, nothing.

What is this bizzaro world.

Go ahead and bring up anything sexist. I will denounce it. Period.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:34:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Wow (none / 0)

what a reach- tell me, for Obama supporters, is everything and everyone somehow racist?

by linc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:21:48 PM EST

It's a crying shame you dont see it. (2.00 / 1)

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:29:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title) (none / 0)

This is a really big reach. What do you want, Clinton to come out and make a speech for it? How can we be held accountable for denouncing everything you deem fit?

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:26:12 PM EST

Where did I say that? (2.00 / 1)

I clearly asked Clinton READERS at this blog to reject and denounce this.

Hillary, herself, has nothing to do with this. Obviously, Hillary doesn't have the time to read blogs.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:28:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Where did I say that? (2.00 / 1)

why do we as hillary supporters need to denounce this? that is what you dont understand. you imply that if we dont denounce this, all hillary supporters are racist as is she. dont you see that. why did you call out just hillary supporters and not all democrats! you are playing games with your own words!

oh and by the way im a black man and i dont see anything wrong with this article. im sure there are plenty of articles out there about how hillary and nancy pelosi dont get along because they are two power hungry women.

you see it goes both way but i think sexism is more accepted than racism

by boxer4hrc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:34:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Where did I say that? (none / 0)

Why aren't you asking Obama supporters to denounce this racism as well? Or are you insinuating that we somehow have to prove ourselves by denouncing this article?

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:36:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Give me a specific case (none / 0)

I'm a liberal, not some cockamamie Ronald Reagan Democrat.

I'll be more than happy to denouce ANY instance of sexism and racism. Any. Period.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:51:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Give me a specific case (none / 0)

So, the question remains, why did you not ask Barack Obama supporters to denounce this as well? Why just Hillary supporters? Troll.

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:17:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

see my comment below (none / 0)

look, no one can instantaneously respond to all questions.

it takes time.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:21:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title) (none / 0)

What's the point of the diary?

TexasDarlin blog

by TexasDarlin on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:29:49 PM EST

If you have no clue.. (none / 0)

Black people don't have to be reminded that they're black. They're already reminded everyday that they're black.

Obviously, the LA Times blogger didn't see the need to remind readers that Hillary is white.

if you don't see the difference in treatment, then I feel sorry for you.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:42:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: If you have no clue.. (none / 0)

No need to get testy, Al. It was just a question. I get the point but don't understand why you made an entire diary out of some unknown blogger's comment. It doesn't change the fact that Ford said what he said. Does it?

TexasDarlin blog

by TexasDarlin on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:46:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Well this should make eveyone angry (none / 0)

It's our party that passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.

This should make every Liberal angry.

This blogger, isn't just some clown on Freepervile, this is a blogger for the LA Times.

Seriously.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:54:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Well this should make eveyone angry (2.00 / 1)

that wasnt what you said at first!

you every hillary supporter must denounce this

why?

Im black, Im not upset about this article, does that make me racist?

by boxer4hrc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:58:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Darlin, let me put it this way (none / 0)

I don't know what Harold said, I didn't read the transcript.

But for the sake of argument, let's say the LATimes blogger has perfectly characterized Harold's comments.

Why does he bring up Harold? Because he's head of the DLC? No. Because Harold is some super analysis? No. Again, who does he connect Harold, by, and only by, skin color.

He goes out of his way to say Harold is black and Barack is black.

Now don't you agree that they're skin color is as irrelevant as their gender? Why didn't he say, "well, Barack should listen to Harold, cuz they be dudes."

If the LAT blogger had said, we should listen to what Harold has to say, because, and only because, Harold is a MAN," wouldn't you say that's sexist? I would.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:08:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title) (2.00 / 1)

FYI- Cubans do not constitute a race. Cubans designates a nationality/national origin.

by alvic63 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:30:00 PM EST

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title) (none / 0)

exactly, latino.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:35:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title) (none / 0)

well, let me add, there are alot of extraction in cuba.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:36:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Keep em Coming (2.00 / 2)

Al....glad you're on our side :)

A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:31:54 PM EST

Re: Keep em Coming (none / 0)

me too!

by boxer4hrc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:35:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

That's why you're LOSING (2.00 / 1)

look up at the scoreboard.

You're losing, big time.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:37:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: That's why you're LOSING (none / 0)

hillary in the end will be leading in the popular vote which is the voice of the people. she is leading now and will end up the winner of the popular vote.....i dont care about delegate counts they dont matter. the people have spoken so far and they have chosen hillary.

its really stupid of me to even argue with people on here who just dont get it!

peace!

by boxer4hrc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:41:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

It's stupid to argue with people smarter than you. (2.00 / 1)

Peace.

by dystopianfuturetoday on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:47:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Wanna make a bet? (none / 0)

put you money where you mouth is.

Go ahead, put up or shut up.

make me a bet.

Go ahead, make my day.

Hell, I won't even spend it. I don't need the money, I donate my winnings to charity.

c'mon. Bet me. I'll even pay for the escrow account.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:48:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

careful... (none / 0)

...Al he/she is a boxer...

A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:21:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Peace??? (none / 0)

Not if the "Obliterator" HRC has anything to do with it..

A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:24:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Racism (2.00 / 1)

Racism is animosity towards members of a race based on their racial status.

Race-consciousness is not racism.

Again...

Race-consciousness is not racism.

Again...

Race-consciousness is not racism.

Check in with prominent Critical Race Theorists like Cremshaw.

2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.

by BPK80 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:39:14 PM EST

So why wasn't he conscious of Hillary's race?? (2.00 / 1)

got an answer for that?

the writer was conscious of Harold's and Barack's color, but he strangely wasn't conscious of Hllary's color.

You can spin this away.

There are only two choices:

1. reject and denounce

2. support the indefensible.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:46:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: So why wasn't he conscious of Hillary's race?? (2.00 / 1)

You miss the point altogether!
so ill type it really big so you can see it!

WHY DO WE AS HILLARY SUPPORTERS HAVE TO DENOUNCE THIS?

Is it because we are not voting for the black man and instead voting for a WHITE woman, so we have to prove that we are not racist?

You just dont get it! it is people like you who make me not want to vote for obama in Nov!!!!!

by boxer4hrc on Sat May 03, 2008 at 06:50:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Because Hillary touting this (none / 0)

Hillary's supporters are touting the LA Times post in support of Hillary.

A post that is solely based on connection. But what connection, their skin color. That's why he goes out of his way to state the obvious, that both Harold and Barack are black. The entire argument is meanliness unless he can conncet them, and he uses race, and nothing else, as the connection.

Once again, without a valid connection, the argument is meaningless. the connection is race. that is not only an invalid connection, it's repugnant.

Hillary's supporters have been touting this post in support of her candidacy, even though it's an odious and empty piece of shit.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:18:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Title correction. (none / 0)

should read, "Because Hillary's supporters are touting this"

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:19:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: So why wasn't he conscious of Hillary's race?? (none / 0)

So that Hillary retains a small chance of winning the general if she is the nominee?

John McCain: Cheney with a temper

by wrb on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:37:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: So why wasn't he conscious of Hillary's race?? (none / 0)

Al, you have to stop taking issue with people using the word "black" and people contemplating the prospect of America's first black president.

Your diary here is a textbook case of faux outrage. You insult the scholarship of critical race theorists and the work they have done for substantive equality when you compare factual descriptions of Harold Ford and Obama's candidacy with the real injustices that have happened in this country because of racism.

Racism is a serious problem and you make a mockery of it by flying off the handle over innocuous trivialities.

2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.

by BPK80 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:27:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (none / 0)

People tell me she is, but I don't see color...

"I'll bite your legs off!" -- HRC 2008!

by username3 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:17:42 PM EST

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title) (2.00 / 1)

What that shows is how pervasive racism is in this country. Most people will read that and never question why people who are black must be identified in an article as black, while it's not mentioned for whites. I see from comments here that they don't see it even when pointed out.

by Becky G on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:19:19 PM EST

Bless you, Becky. (none / 0)

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:21:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

BREAKING: Obama Wins - Guam Damns Hillary (none / 0)

NBC now projects Guam Slam Obama.

► Obama takes Dededo!

The fans are going crazy, and Barack rounds the bases!!

► Obama finished with 2,264 votes to Sen. Hillary Clinton's 2,257 votes - a 7-point difference.

► Obama never trailed from the first vote count on.

► Obama won 14 of 21 districts.

► Most districts that were won by Clinton were by small margins.

source

► more than 5000 turned out to the polls (almost as much as the Wyoming primary).

► Right now, on CNN, Bill Schneider is saying, "momentum is now with Obama."

► The most famous politician in the world lost, AGAIN, to a junior senator, with a funny name.

HA!

O..BA.MA!

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:25:17 PM EST

Re: BREAKING: Obama Wins - Guam Damns Hillary (none / 0)

lol

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 07:36:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Al (none / 0)

Why are you doing this?
I read you on dkos for years and loved your posts.
This is not helpful and I'm surprised you are participating in what some of the other folks (on both sides) are.
I don't understand what anyone gets out of all of this vitriol.

by suki on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:10:34 PM EST

Is Hillary Clinton White? (none / 0)

As far as I know.

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Sat May 03, 2008 at 08:48:15 PM EST

race baiting again... (none / 0)

vote blue in 2008

by sepulvedaj3 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:03:09 PM EST

Re: Is Hillary Clinton White? (snark title) (none / 0)

You know, if you cared so much about this subject, you might put a piece together noting how many times gender stereotypes are played against Hillary - how often her clothing is commented on, how much more emphasis is placed on using emotion-based adjectives, how often she is characterized in ways that are fundamentally demeaning to women.

But I don't think you care that much. Just enough to defend your (hurting) candidate is all. :)

There is a big difference between racism and racialism. Tone down the drama, will you?

by bobbank on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:35:02 PM EST

You are not logged in.

In order to post a comment, you must be logged in. If you have a member account, please log in to comment.

If not, you can make an account right here. It's quick and free.