Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances

Bill Clinton and other Clinton surrogates and supporters are insisting, incredibly, that Barack Obama is the one color-arousing the presidential race, even though it was the head of Clinton's New Hampshire campaign who suggested, based on no evidence whatever, that Barack Obama might have been a drug dealer.  One syndicated columnist observed at the time,

But could it be that this story is even worse than many in the national press will say? Isn't it interesting that Shaheen, or whoever is behind this, opted to invoke the image of a drug dealer in referencing the first top-tier black candidate for president? That's quite a coincidence. This wouldn't be an ugly Willie Horton-type tactic intended to harvest fear and play on stereotypes about who is a criminal and who isn't, or -- in this case -- who uses drugs and who sells them?

Nah. Liberal Democrats would never sink that low. Why if they did, how could they continue to package themselves as a kinder and gentler -- and more enlightened -- alternative to Republicans? Certainly not with a straight face.  Drug rumors about Obama playing on stereotypes?

If Hillary Clinton had won even half of the Black vote, she would be ahead in the presidential race, and she'd probably be the nominee right now.  However, even before the first Black voters voted, when only Iowa and New Hampshire were voting, Hillary Clinton made stupid comments about the significance of Martin Luther King, Jr. and then her New Hampshire campaign manager suggested that America would believe Barack Obama had once been a drug dealer.  (As is turned out, the Clintons were utterly unable to convince America that that was true.)

As Rubin Navarrette, Jr. observed in a CNN commentary,

The harder Team Clinton tries to destroy Obama, the more damage they wind up doing -- to Hillary and her campaign. Just when you thought that the former first lady couldn't come across any more unlikable, desperate, and vindictive, the floor collapses and we find ourselves on a new level.

Last week, Billy Shaheen, Clinton's co-chairman in New Hampshire, resigned from the campaign after floating the rumor that Obama, in his youth, may have been not just a drug user but a drug dealer.  CNN

In retrospect, is there anyone who still believes that Billy Shaheen was acting alone when he made these accusations? Wasn't Clinton afraid that if she didn't accuse Obama of being a drug dealer, then she would lose the race in New Hampshire and her candidacy would be over? Wasn't there anything NOT based on skin-color that Clinton could say to convince America not to vote for Barack Obama? And isn't there any act of color-aroused politicking which the Clintons now wish they had done differently, having lost 90% of the Black vote to Barack Obama? Or will they go to their political graves insisting that 90% of Blacks are wrong, and the Clinton's are right?

Could Clinton win without Blacks votes in the fall? (Are you kidding?!) Could Clinton somehow get an enthusiastic turnout from a constituency that has come, over just four short months, to regard the Clinton politics as an abomination? Clinton's superdelegates can't help her to convince their constituents, obviously. In fact, many of them will have difficulty being reelected in districts with significant numbers of Obama supporters, particularly Black Obama supporters.

I've heard some whites suggest ruefully that Blacks are holding the Democratic Party hostage. Although I don't like this formulation, at least it shows an understanding of the power Black voters have in determining both the nominee and whether the Party's nominee is elected in the fall. 20% is a great big voting block that, in all logic, ought to have a veto power over the nominee. The party should nominate someone whom none of its major constituencies wants to veto. If that's not possible, then we should simply be realistic and prepare ourselves for defeat.

The author is the editor of the Truth About McCain Blog and the American Journal of Color Arousal (AMJCA).



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Re: Clinton Advisor Called Voters " (2.00 / 2)

This has been debunked time and again.

It's a doctored video

Please catch up to current events.


by Sensible on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:06:50 PM EST

Got a link? (1.00 / 2)

If it's "debunked," I'll take it down.


by Manic Lawyer on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:15:20 PM EST
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Re: Got a link? (2.00 / 1)

it has been debunked - read politico


by colebiancardi on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:16:37 PM EST
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Re: Got a link? (none / 0)

Manic Lawyer, why do you lie so much?


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:03:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Got a link? (2.00 / 1)

should change his user name to Manic Liar


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:51:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

how do you say (2.00 / 2)

worthless debunked diary not worth anyone's time in a nice way?


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:07:46 PM EST

Re: how do you say (2.00 / 1)

I think it should just be deleted.

Kantor is talking about a lawsuit.  Maybe they'll include blogs that allow this stuff to go without deletion.


by Sensible on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:08:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Delete this (2.00 / 1)

The "worthless" line was completely doctored. The only dispute is the "those people are shit[ing]" line.


by elrod on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:09:11 PM EST

Re: Delete this (2.00 / 2)

It was something like "those people are sh*tting in the WHITE HOUSE.

He wasn't talking about Indianna residents.


by Sensible on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:10:06 PM EST
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Re: Delete this (none / 0)

I'm quite sure he said "those people are gonna shit" meaning the Bush campaign.


by Montague on Mon May 05, 2008 at 02:47:49 AM EST
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This has already been debunked. (2.00 / 2)

Even CNN debunked this thing last night. Nice job peddling a tired old smear, though. I would have expected nothing less from you.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:09:27 PM EST

The real question (none / 0)

Who doctored the video?  Got any info on that, Mr. Lawyer?


by Trickster on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:09:33 PM EST

i think the real questions is (none / 0)

if the diarist can spell L I B E L


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:14:10 PM EST
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Re: i think the real questions is (none / 0)

One would think so, since s/he's apparently a lawyer. Oh well. If anyone ever decides to sue the diarist for his/her offensive bullsh*t, s/he'll be in a great position to defend him/herself.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:24:41 PM EST
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already debunked (2.00 / 2)

good thing you're a lawyer and can defend yourself for free.

everybody else had to take their videos down.

cnn had a nice segment on crazy obama supporters and their efforts with this fake video. it wasn't flattering...


by doberman pinche on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:10:38 PM EST

why (2.00 / 1)

are you posting this debunked video?

You could not have missed the fact that it has been debunked so the only reason could be to use the race card.

Personally I hope you get banned for passing around this CT.


by J Rae on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:12:41 PM EST

take this diary off: JERK!! (2.00 / 2)

this guy is a shameless hack spreading malicious propaganda and smears. This the typical Obama supporter....race-baiting, rumor mongering on the internet. My bet is given the quality of the audio, the clip has been doctored by someone with money...which means I would not be surprised if it was by someone acting on behalf of the Obama campaign. Obama is turning into the Jesse Helms of the Democratic party who will do anything and say anything to in the nomination. A shameless rumor-mongering idiots like this guy spreads false propaganda.


by tarheel74 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:15:54 PM EST

Re: take this diary off: JERK!! (2.00 / 1)

ITA

we had three diaries on this yesterday - and it was debunked.

shame on the diarist for promoting a repug tactic.


by colebiancardi on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:17:45 PM EST
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Re: take this diary off: JERK!! (none / 0)

i read it was eric schmeltzer who sent it around.

so embarrassing for him, he seems to have taken down his website.


by doberman pinche on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:19:41 PM EST
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so sad (2.00 / 1)

he's from NYC :(


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:20:56 PM EST
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Re: take this diary off: JERK!! (2.00 / 1)

well we should organize a drive and fill his mailbox with our outrage.


by tarheel74 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:30:20 PM EST
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Re: take this diary off: JERK!! (none / 0)

i would guess that kantor has his own plans for eric.

the funny thing is the doctored video didn't even make any sense. lots of people fell for it anyway. oh well.


by doberman pinche on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:34:54 PM EST
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Re: take this diary off: JERK!! (2.00 / 1)

just shows what kool-aid does for you....fry your grey cells.


by tarheel74 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:36:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I don't have much love for Obamabots, but (none / 0)

I'm not going to call this person "typical."


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:22:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

troll (2.00 / 2)


For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:16:40 PM EST

How Dare You (none / 0)

Call this person a troll. He is not a troll and everyone seems to be missing the main point of this diary--Hillary cannot win without the black vote which she has lost.


by sweet potato pie on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:20:13 PM EST
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Re: (none / 0)

sillyseason.com

for all your latest smears


PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability
by wellinformed on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:16:47 PM EST

Mark Penn (none / 0)

isnt even the video. Even your "analysis" is off. Where did you go to law school again? Your alma mater should be embarassed because of you.


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:17:14 PM EST

Re: Clinton Advisor Called Voters (2.00 / 1)

1) I thought this had been debunked.

2) Unless that was Clinton on video saying this, it doesn't reflect on her in any way.

3) Supporters who continue to push BS like this are an embarassment to the supporters of candidates and the candidates themselves (regardless of who you support).

We can disagree without being disagreeable.


Voting for John McCain is not God bless America.
by SFValues on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:21:57 PM EST

Re: Clinton Advisor Called Voters (2.00 / 1)

I know.  

I hear people say, "what so different between Clinton and Obama supporters, they're both RABID."

The difference is, Clinton supporters don't propagate FAKE scandals, including this, the voter registration scandal, the race bating bullcrap.

Obama supporters tend to like to propagate dirty tricks.


by Sensible on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:24:04 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Advisor Called Voters (none / 0)

Heh, I know. Don't you just love "the new politics of hope and change"? Haha.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:26:39 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Advisor Called Voters (none / 0)

This should be rejected but it's crap, not used to attack Obama supporters, like me.


Voting for John McCain is not God bless America.
by SFValues on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:31:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Advisor Called Voters (none / 0)

Correction: not "but", should be "because"


Voting for John McCain is not God bless America.
by SFValues on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:32:08 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Advisor Called Voters (none / 0)

I'm not attacking you. I'm just responding to Sensible's remark that, "Obama supporters tend to like to propagate dirty tricks," because this particular diarist really does love dirty Clinton-bashing. I don't know why I ever click on this person's diaries because they're generally offensive, race-baiting pieces of trash which inevitably put me in a bad mood.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:41:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Because we can't help ourselves (none / 0)

Plus, his/her attitude gives us a free pass to bash.


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:51:49 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Advisor Called Voters (none / 0)

Well, except for Fingergate.


by ProgressiveDL on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:56:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Oh, I see. (2.00 / 1)

Now you realize you were peddling a bullsh*t smear, so instead of deleting the diary, you just rewrite it and turn it into yet another, "The Clintons screwed over African Americans and now they'll pay the price" diary. Typical, coming from you.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:22:37 PM EST

Re: Oh, I see. (none / 0)

Yeah, it was a smear before and it continues to be a smear.  Just with even less "evidence" this time.


by Sensible on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:25:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Oh, I see. (none / 0)

This diarist never needs evidence for anything, anyway. Consistently one of the most dishonest diarists on this site, which is really saying something. Any Clinton smear, however small, is good enough for him/her. S/he jumps on anything "negative" the Clintons do, and if they haven't done anything wrong lately, s/he just makes it up. Disgraceful.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:30:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Clinton didn't desert African Americans (2.00 / 1)

African Americans deserted her.


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:24:28 PM EST

Re: Clinton didn't desert African Americans (none / 0)

Really!

Bill has his office in Harlem.  Seems like a great length to go to hide his "racism".


by Sensible on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:26:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (1.00 / 2)

Manic Lawyer, are you Francis Holland, a previously banned member of myDD?

Your many attempts to play race card here at myDD is very divisive and offensive to me.

It is my opinion that the title of your diary and its content is racially charged and as such it is inflammatory and against the posting guidelines of myDD.


by Hurdy Gurdy on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:28:35 PM EST

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (2.00 / 1)

SILENCE DISSENT?  What does this piece of crap BS diary have to do with that?


by colebiancardi on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:37:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Why engage in reasonable discussion (none / 0)

With a poster who is not looking for it?  Just point and laugh at him and move on.


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:55:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (none / 0)

Why was this troll rated? Just because the person showed the hollowness of the previous poster? Someone talks about allowing dissent and then goes on troll rating when shares a different perspective. Pretty immature troll rater.


by Sandeep on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:20:16 PM EST
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Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (none / 0)

Great article in the Times this morning with a must see graph

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/03/opinio n/03blow.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

excerpt

"e January, the Clintons have pummeled Barack Obama with racially tinged comments and questions about his character.

Hillary Clinton has questioned why he didn't walk out on the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.; why he "denounced" but didn't "reject" Louis Farrakhan; and whether he is too chummy with the former radical Bill Ayers. She chastised his characterization of white working-class voters as being highfalutin and chided him for not agreeing to a street-fight-style debate.

Bill Clinton has called Obama's stance on the war a fairy tale, dismissed an early primary win as mere Jesse Jackson redux and recently claimed that Obama was playing the race card against him. Some of this is valid, the result of Obama's own missteps, but some of it is baffling.

The rhetoric appears to be trafficking in old fears and historic stereotypes. The unspoken (and confusing) characterization of Obama is that he's militant yet cowardly; uppity yet too cool for school.

The question is this: Have white Democrats soured on Obama? Apparently not. Although his unfavorable rating from the group is up five percentage points since last summer in polls conducted by The New York Times and CBS News, his favorable rating is up just as much.

On the other hand, black Democrats' opinion of Hillary Clinton has deteriorated substantially (her favorable rating among them is down 36 percentage points over the same period).

While a favorable opinion doesn't necessarily translate into a vote, this should still give the Clintons (and the superdelegates) pause. Electability cuts both ways."

----

"Many blacks are aghast that their extraordinary support of Bill Clinton in the past would be repaid by the Clintons with racial innuendo (in a Times/CBS News poll after the salacious 1998 Starr report was released, his unfavorable rating among whites climbed to 52 percent; among blacks it was only 10 percent). Some who stood by him then now apparently feel betrayed.

It is no wonder then that McCain is making a place at the table for possible defectors, however unlikely. He began his "forgotten places" tour in Alabama's Black Belt by literally dancing into the arms of an elderly black woman as she sang the gospel hymn "Do, Lord, Remember Me."

Remember that moment if you ever see a bumper sticker that reads, "Repulsed into voting Republican.""


John McCain: Cheney with a temper
by wrb on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:29:15 PM EST

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (none / 0)

hey genius this is an op-ed piece...just like that op-ed piece by a dumb SOB a while back which said that the 3AM ad was doctored to make Obama darker and give the imagery of black men like Birth of the Nation. Yes there is a nice record of race-baiting op-ed pieces written in the NYT by Obama shills.


by tarheel74 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:34:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (none / 0)

Look at the graph. It isn't op ed


John McCain: Cheney with a temper
by wrb on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:43:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (2.00 / 2)

This is the second diary today that this poster has changed the title.

Both times the first title was inflammatory and nasty.

This diary has been reworked a bit but is still racist crap.


by J Rae on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:34:51 PM EST

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (2.00 / 1)

this diarist is a TROLL in diaries and comments. It's as if they're on a mission to turn MyDD into DKos. There's been quite a few lame rabble-rousers popping up lately.


by swissffun on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:42:09 PM EST
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Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (2.00 / 2)

lol.  believing BS like that doctored youtube clip is ignorance and willful ignorance at that.


by colebiancardi on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:16:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (2.00 / 1)

Why shouldn't we call a racist diary what it is?

Are only Obama supporters allowed to call out what is precieved to be racist remarks?


by J Rae on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:01:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Relax, Kossak, take a pill (2.00 / 2)


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:53:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Actually - (none / 0)

African Americans don't have the power you suggest within the Dem Party -
At least on the presidential level.

It is a sad commentary on the amount of racism in the U.S., but Nixon was no fool when he developed the GOP "Southern Strategy" based upon an appeal to underlying racism.  If the Democrats were to nominate Clinton and if African Americans were to boycott the Dems, it would likely rebound in the Dems favor - much as the "Southern Strategy" has delivered Southern states in the GOP column in every presidential race since 1972.  (Even when two Dem Southerners ran in 1992 & 1996, the majority of Southern states went GOP.)

The fact is, that the African American vote for the Democrats has no effect in presidential races in Southern states since the vote is so racially polarized and African Americans make up, at most,  a third of the population (MS).  The recent trends in Rust Belt states suggest that if African Americans desert the Democrats, their lost votes will be more than replaced by Reagan Democrats returning.

The net result would be that African Americans would be left out in the cold politically - much as they were after Republicans abandoned African Americans to Jim Crow after Reconstruction.  For more than half a century, African Americans had no place in the Democrats Party and a Republican Party that had no interest in them.

Is this what you want??


by johnnygunn on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:41:32 PM EST

Re: Actually - (none / 0)

By what logic do you base your belief that who Blacks for will affect  the choice of working class whites between Clint and McCain?

This automatic replacement theory seems ridiculous. Losing AAs is a loss. I doesn't bring anyone new.


John McCain: Cheney with a temper
by wrb on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:49:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: By What Logic - (none / 0)

Only forty years of Southern voting in a racialized atmosphere.
Plus patterns in recent Dem primaries.
by johnnygunn on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:59:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (2.00 / 2)

this is probably the stupidest diary ever posted on mydd...failure with blacks????? i am married to a black man who freely admits the he (and his whole family) are voting for Obama because he is black..end of story....blacks are voting for Obama because he is black, which is fine...but
you are an idiot..which goes to show that a law degree (if you really are an attorney) is no proof of brains...
by ulsterdem on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:41:34 PM EST

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (none / 0)

Oh, right...I didn't realize a few anecdotal examples equalled unassailable evidence.  Before arguing that blacks vote for Obama because he is black, why not look at why women vote for Hillary?


by ProgressiveDL on Sat May 03, 2008 at 01:59:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obvious is obvious but not to uber libs (none / 0)

Blacks for Obama: typically between 85%-95%

Women for Clinton: typically between 55%-65%

Either blacks are voting based on race or they are startlingly monolithic in their preferences.

I think the latter conclusion is more disturbing than the former so I'll stick with the former.


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:44:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Obvious is obvious but not to uber libs (none / 0)

How about:  African Americans tend to be more liberal and Obama is farther left on everything (or nearly everything) except health care?

Also, your numbers need to somehow exclude black women to make a truly fair comparison.  I want to see the percentage of white women voting for Hillary.  And I would also like to see white women over 65 voting for her.  I would bet it's pretty damn close to 90%.  


by ProgressiveDL on Sat May 03, 2008 at 04:40:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

This dairy and (2.00 / 2)

the one by Al Rogers are both disgusting. I wish the haters from the orange stain and puff post would spread their racist hate over there amongst their fellow rue believers and leave MYDD out of it.


by Newport News Dem on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:12:43 PM EST

Diversity of thought is just fine (none / 0)

Foolish and cultish thought are different matters.


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:48:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Diversity of thought is just fine (none / 0)


   why is it cultish thought b/c we support Obama? What is cultish about that?
by southernman on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:56:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Supporting Obama is not cultish (none / 0)

Being an irrational moonbat about it is cultish.  My comment was not directed to you.  It was directed at the silly yo-yo above.


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:59:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Clinton/Ford: Ford never called the Clinton's (2.00 / 1)

racists. He is presidential material.

Harold Ford almost won the senate race in TN, a very conservative state. He would have won if he was married. He is presidential material.

If Obama will not take the V.P. position then Ford would be an AWESOME choice! And it's not just because he hasn't called to Clinton's racists like Obama himself suggested regarding Bill Clinton's NON-race-bating comments in SC.

This diary is why I may sit this election out if Obama wins the nomination without FL or MI counting.

Clinon/Ford 2008


by mmorang on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:30:06 PM EST

re (none / 0)

Agreed and Ford is young, handsome and articulate. If Clinton picks him and he serves as VP for four or eight years Obama and Miss Michelle will never make it to the promised land as they shouldn't. Then they can go back and be buddies with Rezko and Wright in their 2 million dollar mansions


by rossinatl on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:40:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: re (2.00 / 1)


  Ford is embarassed to be a Democrat. If Hillary does get the nomination,  I hope she doesn't choose him.

 Anyone embarassed to be a Democrat has no business being handed the V.P...that's why Gore picking Lieberman was such a huge mistake.


by southernman on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:55:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I'd like that ticket! (none / 0)


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:46:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I thought Ford ran a very good campaign, too (none / 0)

He made some critical missteps at the end and his family's reputation hurt him.


by lombard on Sat May 03, 2008 at 02:39:32 PM EST

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (none / 0)

Hey, how come you didn't mention your close ties with the Clinton's in the past, like you did in your last diary?  How come you didn't post your email to the Clinton Campaign that got ignored?  How come you didn't mention what will happen when you get calls from all the national newspapers?  Your diary exposing yourself for who you say you are is falling off the list.  How could Mydd let that happen to you, the most important person in the world?  How come noone ever pays attention to you?


by Scotch on Sat May 03, 2008 at 03:36:49 PM EST

Re: Failure With Blacks Killed Clinton's Chances (none / 0)

Good point about racial polarization and veto power.  If Black voters express in lock-step fashion that they want to veto Hillary Clinton, she should drop out.  Since Barack can't win the "everybody else" vote, he should drop out too.  


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 05:02:20 PM EST


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