Won't vote for our nominee? Get over it!

Yeah,...and you can too!

Obama has failed to win the nomination outright in the primary and caucus process. Over 17 million voters have voted for Hillary Clinton, and he will be hard-pressed to exceed her total, even on a generous interpretation of the data.

No candidate in the history of presidential elections has ever conceded prior to the Convention with the amount of support that Clinton has, even when it was reasonably clear they were trailing in the various delegate counts.

I can understand why Obama supporters are disappointed, but Clinton isn't beating him in the backrooms (indeed, it is Obama who has the clear edge there). Clinton has been beating him out on the stump, even though he's outspending her and has far more favorable free media. She also beats McCain:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107539/Hillar y-Clintons-SwingState-Advantage.aspx

If anyone needs to "get over it," it's Obama and his supporters.

if I could rec you, I would. That is all.

but we need everyone's help.

And then hopefully we can get some mental-fucking-health care for our vets who come home from Bush's war with PTSD instead of pretending that PTSD doesn't exist.

Clinton supporters ARE anything but war-enablers.

Clinton supporters who vote for McCain to get revenge for the fact that their candidates chance was blown to be president...well, they deserve everything that comes to them, don't they?

The choice is very, very clear in this election regarding Iraq.  

I am a soldier. I was posting a personal story that I felt went very well with the context of the diary.  I do feel that somewhere in the counting of super dels and the over analysis of everything our canidates say, we have forgotten there is a war on.

I don't think Hillary nor her supporters are war enablers. She says that if she is elected prez she will get troops out as soon as is possible.  I take her at her word.  I don't like that she voted AUMF, which is why I back Obama, but I do know there are other reasons to support her and that she is a damn sight better than McCain.

All that being said, I want the war done with.  We as a country are less secure with our army involved in the middle of a bloody civil war.  Our troops are within striking distance by every dingbat fundy and guy with a grudge.  We don't have as much of an ablility to deter North Korea using conventional forces or respond to other world events that may threaten our interests.  So thats why I think staying in Iraq is a bad idea.

and the reasons for going to war were BS.

BPK80, I think perhaps you misread the intent of the diary. It wasn't about anyone supporting Clinton now, it was about supporting the nominee in November.

He is casting Hillary Supporters as that.

Support Hillary all you want until we have a nominee.

But don't support "bomb bomb bomb" McCain and
throw our nominee under the bus if Clinton doesn't win.  And a lot of folks have said they would.  They need to reconsider.

Hillary supporters who turn their back on the party and vote for McCain WILL BE war enablers.

That's the point.

The problem with your comment is that this is not a "personal tragedy" but the effect of an ongoing political calamity.  The way to address this is to unify behind a nominee who wants to do something about it.  Displaying the effects of this irresponsible atrocity producing policy in order to solidify opposition is not the same as exploiting "personal tragedy" for partisan purposes.

I think that whoever wins should not declare the offer right away, allowing some of the primary fire to cool down, but its not a bad idea.

How incredibly selfish can you be.  Hillary Clinton could suffer a stroke tommorrow!  Are you still going to send these men back to Iraq.  We do need to seriously cut the shit.

anything can be twisted as an argument to undeservedly reward your war-authorizing failed candidate, can't it?

the kid in the box in the photo above is IN that box as a direct consequence of a decision made by Hillary "AUMF" Clinton. That kid's blood is on HER grasping hands, as well as those of every single other gutless unfit-for-command asshole who voted for AUMF along with her.

"unity ticket"...hah. whatever. it's not going to happen, regardless of the wishes and dreams of the wolfsonian pissantry.

and in that respect he's probably right..

except for the fact that since Obama wants to increase Pentagon spending, less money will be available even than now, for the things that really matter, like education and healthcare. Thats why Obama is fighting universal healthcare.

Oh goody.  Another concern troll.

How many McCain Blogger points do you get per comment?

There are many Democrats and independents, myself included, who feel this way.

If you let those outside forces make you vote against your best interests then they win, and you lose. Take a look at those photos again. Then take a look at Obama and McCain. McCain would be more than happy for you to either vote for him, or sit it out, as long as you don't vote for Obama. This diarist has given us a grim reminder of things more important than you or me.

Tom, what part of the Democratic party establishment has given Hillary Clinton shabby treatment?  Seriously. If you had said the media has behaved badly, I would understand but not the Democratic party.  

Hillary started with a stacked deck against a lesser known candidate.  She lost.  The loser doesn't get to choose the terms with the winner.  If she's on the ticket, fine, but that shouldn't be a pre-condition.

tom, please read my diary that I posted last night.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/27/2125 57/815#commenttop

this might help.  It helped me.  I feel like a great weight has been lifted, as my heart is free.  

Iraq.
Supreme Court.
Economy.
Environment.
Iran.
Korea.
Health Care.

Please, don't throw your vote away.

I just saw a story about a Marine combat sniper.  When he was describing some of the aspects of his job, longest kill, funniest etc. he mentioned the number 100's.  It was the number that did it.  His body looked like it lost animation.  Like he had given a piece of his soul with every trigger pull and was subject to reliving a kill at least once evry 5 minutes.  His mind will never be the same and not for the good.  Not to mention the 100's of dead Iraqis many of them even he thought deaths were dubious.

You will vote for this?
God bless you.

This year is going to be very difficult for me. The shabby treatment that Hillary Clinton has gotten from the media and the Democratic Party establishment really burns me.

When I read posts like yours Tom, I weep for our country.

Enjoy President McCain and all the debt, death, and horror that will follow him into office.

If you are willing to let personality politics decide your vote for the American President you really aren't very serious about politics and should spend your time trolling PerezHilton.com instead of MyDD.

"fall in love, then fall in line"

-bill clinton, harkin steak fry, 2003

I would also say Hillary bashers are also not worthy of being called Democrats.

He threatens to 'personally kick the ass of anyone he hears about voting for McCain.'  A lot of the Officers are still Bush supporters but according to him the grunts are shifting hard to the Dems.  They can see first-hand what a fuster cluck it is over there.

Mojo for you, and I hope your brother comes home safe.

Much sympathy. My girlfriend's brother got so tired of waiting to get called back he tried to re-up; luckily (?) he failed the physical and won't have to go back at all.

Good luck to your family and all those serving.

One of my best friends is on his stop-loss tour in Iraq.  He's supposed to be married to my friend Nyssa when he gets back, but they can't even set a date for the wedding because the higher-ups keep talking about extending his tour of duty.

Anybody who votes for McCain is voting to kill Dusty and his comrades in arms, no two ways about it.  And if any Democrats do it, they're going to answer to me and Nyssa.

I know some Obama supporters have said otherwise but mostly that is just the passion of the primaries talking.  If Clinton manages to pull off the upset win, I will swallow my pride, lace up my shoes, and charge back into the battle to make sure she beats McCain.  This election is too important to do otherwise.

Um yes i would.  I would curse, and scream, because I am not so much pro Obama as anti Hillary.  I'm afraid I've taken every slight she's given to Black people in this election very personally in light of the strict loyalty i've shown the Clintons in the past.  Yet as my stylus is hovering over Cynthia McKinney I'll still vote for Hillary because F-ING MCCAIN CANT WIN!!  Even in California where she would win without my vote.

This actually already happened to me in 2004.  I was pretty vehemently against Kerry in the primaries, but I volunteered for him in the general.  Would I have made more time for my first choice?  I can't deny that, but I did work damned hard for Kerry even though he wasn't my favorite.

If Hillary  somehow STOLE the election, I would still vote AGAINST McCain.

See how that works?

This election is not about Obama/Clinton, it is about somebody so damn idiotic he actually employed a campaign strategy of running on a sitting president's record who has one of the lowest approval ratings in history.

I blame everybody (including my father-in-law and aunt) who voted for Bush in 2004 for the deaths since then, and I will continue to do the same for ANYONE who votes for McSame. I even hold some contempt for the Nader supporters in 2000, when everyone KNEW that teh election would be close,
and they voted for the green party candidate against the GREENEST DEMOCRAT EVER TO SEEK THE PRESIDENCY!