One step back, don't let Hillary down

Sorry it has been a while since I have thrown anything up for the vultures folks (not that you missed my diatribes), I have been absolutely inundated with school and work and school and work.... I digress.



I started supporting Hillary Clinton because I found her to be the most perfect example of a human being in this race.  No, I do not hold her in any sort of light that might wash away her imperfections, but rather a more natural light, with all her scars and lines shown glowingly and gloriously to the world.  I saw a mother who raised a beautiful child, I saw a woman who took on the patriarchy and gave hope to my feminism.  I saw a woman with the strength to stand up against the acidity of the VRWC and hold her head without even flinching.



A great deal about this campaign has been ugly; it has been rapt with gotcha this and gotcha that- so, so much of it targeted at Hillary Clinton.  I still feel a tremendous amount of disgust as I recall some of the more virulent comments and diagnoses, particularly as they came from the so called progressive netroots.  I will be forever amazed that any Democrat thought it logical or the right thing to do to question the sincerity of Hillary Clinton's emotions.  Forever amazed.



Hillary Clinton has shown me something that I don't think I could ever achieve.  She not only possesses the gift of grace, but the greatest amount of humility and perseverance I have ever witnessed in a politician.  I cannot imagine facing what this woman has faced.  Despite it all, Hillary has risen above and kept on fighting.



So please, my fellow Clinton supporters, rise above.  Do not play the game.  Do not engage in the gotcha politics.  I think Hillary Clinton would expect better of us.  We are not the crowd that boos other candidates at rallies (except in PR, apparently...), we are not the crowd that would make political hay out of human tragedy.



I am a Hillary Clinton supporter and I will be until she says otherwise- I will support the nominee of the Democratic party in November, but I will never emulate the half of this party that sometimes makes me ashamed to call myself a Democrat.  That's all I have to say about that.



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Its not snark (2.00 / 8)


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:43:38 AM EST

Re: Its not snark (2.00 / 1)

The sincerity of your diary is somewhat offset by your several jabs towards Obama supporters, but it's a nice sentiment.


Obama in November.
by Artemis Jax on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:46:55 AM EST
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Its part of the sincerity (2.00 / 5)

I mean it.  Like I said, its not snark.


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:47:57 AM EST
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Re: Its part of the sincerity (none / 0)

Sincerity was a poor word choice. I don't doubt that you mean the diary, and that wasn't what I meant.

Credibility? That touches what I meant a lot more than sincerity.


Obama in November.
by Artemis Jax on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:49:09 AM EST
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Re: Its part of the sincerity (none / 0)

Jeez, Linc, you made me rec a pro-Hillary diary.

Why did you have to write a positive diary (I'm passing over the comment about the "other half" of the party....) about your candidate?


McCainuire, The Wrath Of Not Enough Naps.
by catilinus on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:23:11 AM EST
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Hmmm... (none / 0)

..


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by architek on Wed May 28, 2008 at 09:18:32 AM EST
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Re: Its not snark (2.00 / 1)

Kudos for a reality-based diary.

Rec'd in the hopes that it pushes fairy-tales off the list.


by McTrollop on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:48:16 AM EST
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Recc'd and tipp'd for positivity. (2.00 / 3)

This Obama supporter agrees with your diary wholeheartedly--I too found the "her tears are fake" arguments disgusting.  Thank you, linc.


Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?
by Elsinora on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:50:21 AM EST
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Obama Superdelegate Switches Today (2.00 / 1)

Courtesy of The Page:

Net gain: Obama 0, Clinton 2*

CLINTON GETS:
-Virgin Islands DNC super Kevin Rodriquez, who switches back to Clinton after previously moving to Obama. Read release.


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:32:26 AM EST
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Re: Obama Superdelegate Switches Today (2.00 / 1)

Net gain for the day was 0-0 actually according to demconwatch.

Ben Pangelinan endorsed Obama, so did Nancy Drummond. These two balance the switch of Kevin Rodriguez.


by Aris Katsaris on Wed May 28, 2008 at 03:12:47 AM EST
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Sweet request, but I have concerns (1.00 / 0)

and for a while have had concerns about Obama's knowledge of history. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

And living in a free country, a democracy even, means we are free to, even have a duty to, hold our elected leaders accountable.

Furthermore, the one time you can get the most leverage with your elected leaders is in negotiations: when they are asking for your votes.


by catfish2 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:47:35 AM EST

Re: Sweet request, but I have concerns (none / 0)

we are free to, even have a duty to, hold our elected leaders accountable.

I'm going to hold you to that when Obama is sworn in in January.


Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:49:21 AM EST
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You don't have to wait (1.00 / 0)

but I think you know that.


by catfish2 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:32:25 AM EST
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Re: Sweet request, but I have concerns (2.00 / 2)

Those who mistake Buchenwald for Auschwitz are....doomed to mistake Buchenwald for Auschwitz again.


From a Hillary supporter: We laughed as that became our mantra - "Barack can't win!"..... ....."he can go to hell and i'll pay for his way there."
by Cochrane on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:51:42 AM EST
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Re: Sweet request, but I have concerns (2.00 / 1)

He was a professor at the University of Chicago.  I think his knowledge of history will more than suffice when compared to McCain.  That guy lived through Vietnam and still thinks we can eke out a win if we just win a few more hearts & minds.  How is that for being doomed to repeat history?


People say that your dreams are the only thing that save ya, come on baby in our dreams we can live on misbehavior- Arcade Fire
by HIsoldier on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:52:08 AM EST
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Re: Sweet request, but I have concerns (none / 0)

What problems with history do you see Obama having?    Out of recent presidential candidates, I think he has one of the best understandings of history.  He is very self-aware of the place of his candidacy within the unfolding historical narrative of American politics.  


by ProfessorReo on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:58:43 AM EST
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Which era of history (1.00 / 0)

do you find him strong in? Can you cite an example, and link to a source?


by catfish2 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:34:38 AM EST
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History of Hawaii pre Captain Cook (none / 0)

Re-read my post.  I'm not suggesting that Obama is a historical expert of a particular era of history.  I'm saying he understands the historical connections between his campaign and the fractured legacy of the democratic party and progressive movement of the 1960s.

Now, please provide some evidence of Obama's weakness with history.  You seem to have a settled opinion about his handle on history, so you must have many examples to support your view.  Please do share.  I'm sure you're not like some of the Obama bashers who sometimes make vague accusations with no evidence, dubious evidence, or evidence that actually undermines their own point.


by ProfessorReo on Wed May 28, 2008 at 03:37:56 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (2.00 / 8)

She is great , isn't she .


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by lori on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:47:58 AM EST

Nice first comment (2.00 / 4)

Very clever. :)


by catfish2 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:48:32 AM EST

Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (2.00 / 1)

Rec'd.


by rfahey22 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:51:37 AM EST

Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (1.00 / 1)

linfer..
Did you know you have an evil twin?
the evil linfer is giving you a bad name.
If this is you..and it is similar to other
good linfer's..you get a rec from me..
"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:51:55 AM EST

its linc (2.00 / 4)

and linfar is not evil.  George Bush throws around evil quite a bit, has a very good understanding of it I guess, maybe you should go talk to him.


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:53:47 AM EST
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Re: its linc (2.00 / 1)

yes, there should be a moratorium on the use of the word "evil".  

Ooops, I just used up my quota for the week =)


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:16:27 AM EST
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Ha! (none / 0)

too good, too good.  I picture your oops with a stifled, wide eyed grin.


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:19:02 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (2.00 / 1)

I'll agree with the sentiment of others, in that I've seen you take sometimes unfair jabs at Obama supporters in the past. But I believe that people can move on, surely, and your post shows a lot of wisdom and maturity. So kudos to you.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:52:58 AM EST

Did I mention Obama supporters (2.00 / 2)

in the diary above?  I am pretty sure I referenced the immature, lesser half of our party (you decide what that might be), specifically those that would act in the way I described.  I have always made efforts to discern children who really like Obama, from true Obama supporters- although i am still human and have my own gaffes once in a while.


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:01:06 AM EST
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Re: Did I mention Obama supporters (none / 0)

No, hence my sincere kudos and thanks to you.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:02:43 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

I am an idiot...
sorry linc..I guess I have linfer on the head...
It is obviously time for bed
"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:54:42 AM EST

Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (2.00 / 4)

Great positive diary.  She is a remarkable woman.

Rec'd.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:02:48 AM EST

I like your blog, btw (none / 0)

keep it up!


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:40:01 AM EST
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Re: I like your blog, btw (none / 0)

Thanks, it's pretty new . . . appreciate the comment!


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:31:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Motion to discontinue (none / 0)

the use of the words "folks" and "gang".


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changiness
by lizardbox on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:22:42 AM EST

That's all you have? (2.00 / 1)

I expected more... the disappointment.


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:26:21 AM EST
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Sorry, I have a couple of sites to finish (none / 0)

the creative blocks are used to build other useful things. May be next time.


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changiness
by lizardbox on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:12:01 AM EST
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I now heart linc . . . (none / 0)

for getting Alegre off the rec list . . . for now.

You seem like you live in reality, and not fairy tale land.

Phantom rec to you linc!!


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:29:19 AM EST

I agree with Alegre on a great many things (2.00 / 1)

particularly issues of fairness in the process- I am not the only one though, go check out kos circa 2007, we agreed too.


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:56:23 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

Like you, I hope no one tries not emulate the half of this party (both Clinton and Obama supporters) that sometimes makes me ashamed to call myself a Democrat.  I feel the same way about Obama as you do about Hillary.  You could have done without the "we are not the crowd" stuff.  Stopped me from reccing the diary.  But good diary nonetheless.


by reggie23 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:30:23 AM EST

You do what you like (none / 0)

but do you or don't you think its bad form to boo a fellow Democrat?  


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:47:29 AM EST
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Re: You do what you like (2.00 / 2)

I really wanted to comment on this comment.

My answer - it depends.

If the self proclaimed democrat puts candidate above party, then they arent a democrat and I will harshly call them out.  If a self proclaimed democrat claims they own the democratic party (due to their special insight, years of experience) and the rest who disagree can go stuff themselves, then yes I will harshly call them out.

I have no problem with people strongly believing their candidate is stronger than the others and advocating for them with passion.  No one is ever going to agree 100% on a candidate (I mean for f's sake there 25% of the population who still think chimpy boy is doing a bang up job).  But the party rules.

If you want to put candidate over party, then this site is not for you (and I mean that in the royal sense, not directed at you specifically).  There are plenty of places where candidate over party is accepted, but this is not supposed to be one of them.

Of course we all slip from time to time and that is forgivable, but when its constant it should be attacked harshly.

I simply can not stand when I see disingenuous candidate support at the cost of the party.  That is why this campaign cycle has been very troubling for me and I have gotten very angry and probably yelled boo and questioned the credentials of many democrats.

Honestly, I believe all this BS from Hillarys campaign on MI and FL to be extremely disheartening and an awful example of self over party.  As with her campaigns comments about small states, red states, caucuses, etc.

And honestly I cant think of an example where Obama put self over party publicaly, but I will easily admit it if I am wrong (I do have my own bias to overcome of course).

As for the other stuff (bitter, sniper, Wright, white)?  Whatever.  Thats politics and Obama is no saint and neither is Hillary.

So I dont mind sharp elbows in campaigning but I do mind when I think it hurts the party.

So hope that helps where I come from.

And again, this isnt directed at you but honestly trying to answer the question you posed from my perspective.


by pattonbt on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:51:19 AM EST
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Rec'd for being reasonable & sane n/t (none / 0)


by Swedie on Wed May 28, 2008 at 06:38:28 AM EST
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Re: You do what you like (none / 0)

I think a lot of things that happened in the primary  were in bad from, but I think most of the time you're reasonable enough not to paint with such broad strokes.


by reggie23 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 08:53:44 AM EST
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Re: You do what you like (none / 0)

"bad form" of course


by reggie23 on Wed May 28, 2008 at 08:54:09 AM EST
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In praise of the Democratic Party (2.00 / 1)

There are thousands of great men and women in the Democratic Party who have worked hard for the party and America for decades. Hillary is one of them.

It is now time to unite behind the choice of our party for 2008, Barack Obama.


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:37:21 AM EST

Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

congrats on a good diary.


by alyssa chaos on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:38:17 AM EST

Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

I have finally found a diary that explains why people support Hillary instead of just attacking Obama.

Over canidates we may disagree, but one way or another, we'll be standing side by side soon.


People say that your dreams are the only thing that save ya, come on baby in our dreams we can live on misbehavior- Arcade Fire
by HIsoldier on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:38:45 AM EST

Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

Well said, both to you and to LinC.


by jere7my on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:41:16 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

There also was a positive diary written by alegre over the weekend.  Had a great title involving the word "pantsuit."  


by ProfessorReo on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:53:02 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (2.00 / 1)

I have not supported Hillary Clinton but I support this diary.  The vigor and passion is wonderful.  Well said.


by Pat Flatley on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:38:48 AM EST

Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

During the 90's, HRC had to stand up to the vast rightwing conspiracy.  Now, she's fighting the vast leftwing conspiracy.  So, give her credit, she's had to fight off a biwingual conspiracy . . . .

(credit to Jon Stewart for the joke).  


by ProfessorReo on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:39:00 AM EST

I don't think you are a professor (none / 0)

certainly not one I would ever take a class from.


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:42:29 AM EST
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Re: I don't think you are a professor (none / 0)

You wouldn't want John Stewart as your professor?  


by ProfessorReo on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:45:00 AM EST
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I have snark down (none / 0)

what would I need him for?


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:57:10 AM EST
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Re: I have snark down (none / 0)

This is the second time tonight someone has said something I wrote wasn't very professor-like.  I don't understand, aren't professors allowed to have a sense of humor?  Or all professors supposed to be stodgy old men and women who always pontificate with academic rigor and detachment, whether they are lecturing, blogging or playing pictionary?

Btw, aside from your little dig at Obama supporters, I appreciate the sentiments in your diary.  Thank you, I'm glad you wrote it.  


by ProfessorReo on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:06:55 AM EST
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Biwingual. That's good. Thanks. n/t (none / 0)


by Swedie on Wed May 28, 2008 at 06:41:03 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for raising the level of the discourse.  Rec'd.  Loved the first comment too.


McCain: because not everyone's ready to say goodbye to W yet!
by Matt Smith on Wed May 28, 2008 at 01:49:07 AM EST

Thanks Markos (2.00 / 2)

for ruining and dividing our party with your radical Clinton-hate-mongering blog. I truly think this guy and Ariana Huffington as the two most responsible people for the divisiveness of this primary. Even if Obama had managed to win the primaries without the help of these losers, I bet the discourse would be far more civil. Instead, they have attempted to purge the party of moderates, pragmatism, realism, and have spread the most vicious lies about the Clintons, like Whitewater, Foster, Perot myth, "slick willie," talking about the Monica "scandal," etc. Kos and Huffington really toxified the political atmosphere.  

This nomination is NOT over, so keep your head up, fellow Clinton supporters: Keep that faith, keep your courage, stick together, stay strong, do not yield, stand up, we support Clinton and WE'LL NEVER SURRENDER!


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:41:46 AM EST

Is this snark? (2.00 / 2)

Unfortunately I know the answer.


by pattonbt on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:53:23 AM EST
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absolutely not. (none / 0)

why would it ever be snark?


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Wed May 28, 2008 at 03:16:05 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

you just proved that we divided for long


Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Wed May 28, 2008 at 07:01:41 AM EST

That is not an English sentence... (none / 0)

Your comment conveys no meaning.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Wed May 28, 2008 at 07:49:53 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

"I found her to be the most perfect example of a human being in this race. "

Oh, is that all?  So she's a better person than Obama or, say, Joe Biden or Bill Richardson, not just a better candidate?

A "perfect example of a human being in this race" makes almost no sense to me, but then most of what HRC's last holdouts say doesn't make sense to me;  is Barack Obama a less "perfect" human being for some reason?


by fightbull on Wed May 28, 2008 at 07:26:00 AM EST

Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

Well, for one, he doesn't have a vagina.  That's what this is all about, isn't it?


by ProgressiveDL on Wed May 28, 2008 at 07:33:24 AM EST
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Re: One step back, don't let Hillary down (none / 0)

You lost me at your attack on "the other half of the party."  If you are going to paint with a wide brush, don't complain when the same thing happens to Hillary supporters.


by ProgressiveDL on Wed May 28, 2008 at 07:32:53 AM EST

Wasn't a complaint (none / 0)


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 12:20:34 PM EST
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Re: Wasn't a complaint (none / 0)

I realize that.  I just mean that in the future, when Hillary supporters get painted as "dead-enders" or afraid of change, don't act surprised.


by ProgressiveDL on Wed May 28, 2008 at 02:39:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Did I say Obama supporters (none / 0)

anywhere in the diary?


by linc on Wed May 28, 2008 at 03:03:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]


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