Where in the World in Barack Obama?

Answer: not in Puerto Rico.

Over the past several months I have grown to have great respect for the campaign skills of the Obama team. They have run what will probably be remembered by historians as the Presidential primary campaign that changed Presidential primary campaigns forever. Timely messaging, rapid response, social networking and internet fund-raising have been the hallmarks of their successful effort against a candidate with 100% name recognition and years of hard-won goodwill.

For this reason I was taken aback by the perfunctory efforts in West Virginia and Kentucky. Admittedly these states presented overwhelming demographic challenges for the Obama team, but as a candidate who prides himself on his ability to change voters' minds once they get to know him I was surprised that Obama made no serious effort to introduce himself to their voters.

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David Axelrod explained the poor performance by Obama in an interview with National Public Radio by asserting that "the white working class has gone to the Republican nominee for many elections, going back even to the Clinton years." While this is historically accurate, in order to win a general election a Democrat must be able to win a minimum of 44-45% of these voters. Axelrod of course  knows this. I surmised that he would rather Obama not campaign in these states and lose by 35% or 40% than campaign and lose by 20% or 25%. While I didn't agree with this philosophy, I'm not the one who had run successful campaigns, so I assumed that there was a larger strategy at play - one which would manifest itself at a later time.

Puerto Rico, in contrast to West Virginia and Kentucky, is not known for its high concentration of white working class voters. I am baffled that Barack Obama did another drive-by in this almost exclusively Hispanic territory. There have been no recent primaries in which Hispanic voters exceeded the low single digits, but Obama consistently lost the Hispanic vote to Hillary Clinton in the Super Tuesday states, in many cases by huge margins. I had assumed that Obama's camp, flush with money, good press and delegates, would make a massive effort to come as close as they could in this admittedly Clinton-favored region. A successful effort could have removed many of the doubts that undeclared superdelegates harbor about Obama's ability to win in the fall.

Donna Brazille, in her infinite wisdom, has stated that "A new democratic coalition is younger. It is more urban, as well as suburban, and we don't have to rely on white blue-collar voters and Hispanics." Say what? Do Donna Brazille and David Axelrod believe that a Democrat can win a general election without downscale whites and Hispanics? Against a relatively Hispanic-friendly Republican? George Bush's 2004 victory over John Kerry was, in large part, attributed to his 44% support among Latino voters, a substantial upward deviation from the usual Republican share of about 30%.

So I repeat: Where in the world is Barack Obama? And why is he phoning it in in Puerto Rico?



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Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (2.00 / 2)

The man's trying to win a general election.


by gcensr on Tue May 27, 2008 at 03:34:12 AM EST

Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (2.00 / 1)

Also, in case you were actually curious, here's a great story on where he'll be this week:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/050 8/10640.html


by gcensr on Tue May 27, 2008 at 05:11:00 AM EST
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Obama And Nuclear Plant Safety (none / 0)

There was a NYT story on this just a few months ago..

Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/03/us/pol itics/03exelon.html

Evidently, Obama is no stranger to Excelon's generosity. And he has helped them navigate their regulatory hurdles too. At the citizens of Illinois expense.

"When residents in Illinois voiced outrage two years ago upon learning that the Exelon Corporation had not disclosed radioactive leaks at one of its nuclear plants, the state's freshman senator, Barack Obama, took up their cause.

Mr. Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was "the only nuclear legislation that I've passed."

"I just did that last year," he said, to murmurs of approval.

A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks.

Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama's comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate.

"Senator Obama's staff was sending us copies of the bill to review, and we could see it weakening with each successive draft," said Joe Cosgrove, a park district director in Will County, Ill., where low-level radioactive runoff had turned up in groundwater. "The teeth were just taken out of it."

The history of the bill shows Mr. Obama navigating a home-state controversy that pitted two important constituencies against each other and tested his skills as a legislative infighter. On one side were neighbors of several nuclear plants upset that low-level radioactive leaks had gone unreported for years; on the other was Exelon, the country's largest nuclear plant operator and one of Mr. Obama's largest sources of campaign money.

Since 2003, executives and employees of Exelon, which is based in Illinois, have contributed at least $227,000 to Mr. Obama's campaigns for the United States Senate and for president. Two top Exelon officials, Frank M. Clark, executive vice president, and John W. Rogers Jr., a director, are among his largest fund-raisers.

Another Obama donor, John W. Rowe, chairman of Exelon, is also chairman of the Nuclear Energy Institute, the nuclear power industry's lobbying group, based in Washington. Exelon's support for Mr. Obama far exceeds its support for any other presidential candidate.

In addition, Mr. Obama's chief political strategist, David Axelrod, has worked as a consultant to Exelon. A spokeswoman for Exelon said Mr. Axelrod's company had helped an Exelon subsidiary, Commonwealth Edison, with communications strategy periodically since 2002, but had no involvement in the leak controversy or other nuclear issues."

By the way, if any of these huge nuclear power plants "go nuclear" homeowners will have nowhere to turn as homeowners insurance policies exempt all nuclear related accidents, acts of war, etc. from all coverage. People are not protected from radioactive contamination, even if it destroys the value of their home completely.

And health insurance policies do too.

Thats why Hiroshima survivors in the US have to be treated by doctors who travel here all the way from Japan.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%
by architek on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:16:52 AM EST
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Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (2.00 / 1)

I think he is concentrating on the general election. He can't be everywhere therefore he needs to focus on the swings states, especially since he is not well known in the political spectrum.  

I am pretty sure he is going to park in Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Florida, Colorado and other significant states


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Tue May 27, 2008 at 03:38:14 AM EST

typo in headline (none / 0)

in → is


by semiquaver on Tue May 27, 2008 at 03:42:38 AM EST

Re: typo in headline (none / 0)

Good catch. I wish I knew how to correct afterthe fact.


by STUBALL on Tue May 27, 2008 at 04:27:02 AM EST
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impressive dishonesty.... (2.00 / 2)

Brazile's quote:


"A new Democratic coalition is younger. It is more urban, as well as suburban, and we don't have to just rely on white blue-collar voters and Hispanics. We need to look at the Democratic Party, expand the party, expand the base and not throw out the baby with the bath water."

Why did you feel it necessary... or even the least bit valid to exclude the bolted portions and thereby distort her meaning?

Also, might I ask whether you expressed similar outrage when Clinton shrugged off Utah, Idaho or any number of "small states"?


by Casuist on Tue May 27, 2008 at 03:55:22 AM EST

Re: impressive dishonesty.... (none / 0)

"Why did you feel it necessary... or even the least bit valid to exclude the bolted portions and thereby distort her meaning?"

to paraphrase some old lyrics...

Cause he's a liar
Yeah he's a liar
He'll tear your mind out
He'll burn your soul
He'll turn you into him
He'll turn you into him
Cause he's a liar, a liar
A liar, a liar


by Aris Katsaris on Tue May 27, 2008 at 04:13:17 AM EST
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Re: impressive dishonesty.... (2.00 / 1)

The fuller quote does not led credence to Brazille's argument. It looks to me like addition by subtraction. Contrary to her last words, she seems to be throwing out the baby AND the bath water. When you give up on blue collar voters and Hispanics who's left. Obama already gets 110% of the AA vote and almost as much of the youth vote (if it even materializes). The Hispanic voting bloc is growing exponentially as a consequence of high birth rates, and increased citizenship requests by green card holders. (Bush actually helped with this by raising fees. Wannabe citizens put in their applications before the rates went up.)

I will partially cede your point. The fuller quote would have been preferable, but in no way changes the meaning. As to Idaho and Utah, you've got to be kidding! If Democrats were to win Idaho or Utah we wouldn't need them.

Lastly, your title is distasteful and offensive. If you disagree with me, make your case, don't call me a liar. Not only is it unattractive, according to my understanding (see: Jerome post of tonight) it violates site rules. I won't troll rate you because it's late and sometimes when it's late people tend to misspeak, although I'm confident you're likely to take exception to this too.  


by STUBALL on Tue May 27, 2008 at 04:41:06 AM EST
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Re: impressive dishonesty.... (2.00 / 2)

Misquoting someone (with quote marks around it) and then using that misquote to peddle your argument is dishonest.  You have been rightly called-out on it.


by neonplaque on Tue May 27, 2008 at 04:51:06 AM EST
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meaning of "just" and "expand" (2.00 / 1)


When you give up on blue collar voters and Hispanics who's left.

No one is giving up on anyone. The idea is to expand the base... i.e. not exclude anyone who was previously a member of the base but rather to bring in more solid demographics.


I will partially cede your point. The fuller quote would have been preferable, but in no way changes the meaning.

It changes the meaning considerably... in that you imply that Brazile was promoting the exclusion of the blue collar and hispanic votes when her full quote makes it clear she suggested nothing of the sort. Even if it didn't change the meaning at all- the selective clipping of the quote without making note of the exclusions is intellectually dishonest.


As to Idaho and Utah, you've got to be kidding! If Democrats were to win Idaho or Utah we wouldn't need them.

You are griping about a territory that is not even involved in the general election.


Lastly, your title is distasteful and offensive.

Your presentation of Brazile's quote and your presentation of her meaning are dishonest. If you came by that misconception by accident- I apologize... but the fact that you're still defending your interpretation where it's clear the quote doesn't support it doesn't much cut it.


by Casuist on Tue May 27, 2008 at 04:58:44 AM EST
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in case unclear... (2.00 / 1)

"more solid demographics" = "additional solid demographics"

"just" = "not only, but also"


by Casuist on Tue May 27, 2008 at 05:01:28 AM EST
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Re: impressive dishonesty.... (2.00 / 2)

Why did you change her quote?  That would help answer whether you were being dishonest or not.


by NeverNude on Tue May 27, 2008 at 05:32:56 AM EST
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impressive dishonesty.... (2.00 / 1)

Nope, sorry, your misquoting was dishonest. If you wished to be merely misleading, you would have included an ellipsis (...).

Dropping key words in a statement and quoting it as though you weren't doing so is completely dishonest. If those weren't critical to the interpretation of her statements, why did you drop them?


by letterc on Tue May 27, 2008 at 06:12:13 AM EST
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Re: impressive dishonesty.... (2.00 / 1)

Stu, come now.  You misquoted Donna.  An accurate quote most certainly lends credibility to her argument as it is the truth of what she said.  Start there, then criticize.

What she says seems perfectly reasonable.  We are interested in expanding the base of the Democratic party, right?


by niksder on Tue May 27, 2008 at 07:59:26 AM EST
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Re: impressive dishonesty.... (none / 0)

Let's see how missing or added words change the context...

To answer your one word changed (just) question below....

And why is he phoning it in just in Puerto Rico?

I would answer, they can't vote in the GE.  

That's what you meant right?

I didn't think so..


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:09:08 AM EST
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He doesn't really want to win (1.00 / 0)

I thought this from last fall. He just didn't want this badly enough.

Now he's giving superdelegates an out.


by catfish2 on Tue May 27, 2008 at 04:45:45 AM EST

Re: He doesn't really want to win (2.00 / 0)

He is campaigning for the GE.
SD's see that.
49 to go.
by parahammer on Tue May 27, 2008 at 05:20:16 AM EST
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Re: He doesn't really want to win (none / 0)

Interesting theory.  I'll have to mull it over.


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Tue May 27, 2008 at 06:21:39 AM EST
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Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (2.00 / 1)

"Where in the world is Barack Obama? "

Both Clinton and Obama spent Saturday campaigning in Puerto Rico (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/24/c ampaign.wrap/index.html?eref=rss_topstor ies). Clinton is expected to do well in PR, but given how enthusiastic Obama's reception has been, and the expected low turnout, I suspect that the impact on the delegate count, or the popular vote (for what it's worth) won't be much.


by laird on Tue May 27, 2008 at 06:20:13 AM EST

Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (2.00 / 1)

If turnout in Puerto Rico is half of what it usually is (80%), there would still be well over a million votes cast, which is more than Kentucky and West Virginia combined.  


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Tue May 27, 2008 at 06:27:13 AM EST
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Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (none / 0)

There's been a raft of things that'll probably tilt that downward significantly, though. Like the fact they closed 1,000 polling places, or that the Ricanians only go out at that level for issues of statehood.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Tue May 27, 2008 at 07:59:45 AM EST
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Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (none / 0)

Yes, I'm aware there are signs the turnout will be lower than it would be in an ordinary PR election.  I don't know what the situation is exactly in Puerto Rico (I don't think anybody really does) and it hasn't been polled in a very long time.  Turnout is a ? and the spread is another ?.  


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Tue May 27, 2008 at 11:19:40 AM EST
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Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (none / 0)

You know PR does not vote in the presidential.  Only in the primary do their votes count.


by niksder on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:02:09 AM EST
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Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (none / 0)

Um... yes, I know that.


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Tue May 27, 2008 at 11:17:44 AM EST
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Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (2.00 / 1)

See no evil. Obama is staying away from Puerto Rico for the exact same reason he stayed away from Kentucky and WV. He knows he can't win there. If this is his strategy for the GE, it sure is a loser of one. The Obama campaign is succeeding during the primary due to the accessibility of a great tool; an Obama friendly media/anti-Clinton media. I'd say that's the best tool a candidate could possibly have. That being said, Obama doesn't have a prayer for the GE. There are no superdelegates or caucuses...the media can only do so much.


by soyousay on Tue May 27, 2008 at 06:43:18 AM EST

Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

What is the point in spending much time somewhere that doesn't vote in the GE? He's been there, was very well received, now he has more important things to do.


by interestedbystander on Tue May 27, 2008 at 07:59:18 AM EST
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Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

Kentucky and WV doesn't vote in the GE?


by soyousay on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:02:30 AM EST
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Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

You know I was referring to Puerto Rico - the subject of the diary.


by interestedbystander on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:29:33 AM EST
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Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

Exactly. I'd definitely say Obama will lose Puerto Rico in the general election, putting McCain well over in the electoral vote count. Excellent point, sir.

This, of course, is nothing like when Senator Clinton blew her campaign stops in Virginia or Maryland or Kansas or Minnesota or North Dakota or Maine or Washington. Those were all okay.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:02:16 AM EST
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Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

I'm not talking about PR in the GE. I'm talking about Kentucky and WV. Also, FL and OH will be a big problem for BO


by soyousay on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:03:59 AM EST
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Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

Odd he's beating McCain in Ohio currently. Kentucky and West Virginia are off the map for Obama, sure, just like Virginia is for Clinton. But then again, I never said "ZOMG WHAT A JERK CLINTON SKIPPED CAMPAIGNING AND GOT HER ASS BEAT HAHA!".


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:25:13 AM EST
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Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

Didn't Clinton stay away from some states she was sure to lose?


by niksder on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:02:52 AM EST
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Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

Which ones?


by soyousay on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:04:28 AM EST
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Re: Speak no evil, hear no evil.... (none / 0)

Maryland. D.C. Mississippi. Georgia. Kansas.  Utah.


by niksder on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:45:48 AM EST
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He went there. He's now running the GE (2.00 / 2)

This is more attention than Puerto Rico has ever gotten in an election, and that's not a bad thing, but let's keep in mind that there's not one vote on that island that is going to help or hurt Obama in the general election. He'll lose the primary there, probably not by as much as some think, and then we'll play out the last two contests, and we'll be done and more on to the general election full time.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Tue May 27, 2008 at 07:46:08 AM EST

Re: He went there. He's now running the GE (none / 0)

He's the most dismissive candidate I've ever seen.


by soyousay on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:05:15 AM EST
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Re: He went there. He's now running the GE (2.00 / 1)

Let's see.

-Hawaii
-Virginia
-Maryland
-Kansas
-Utah
-North Dakota
-Washington
-Colorado
-Minnesota
-Nebraska

Just a few.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:30:04 AM EST
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Re: He went there. He's now running the GE (none / 0)

He's now visited the lower 48 - how is that dismissive?


by interestedbystander on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:31:46 AM EST
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The nomination fight is over (none / 0)

whether people like it or not. Obama is focusing on the GE.


by Fairy Tale on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:03:07 AM EST

He can focus all he likes... (none / 0)

but Obama's primary strategy will carry over into the GE. His primary dismissive behavior will haunt him in the GE


by soyousay on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:06:50 AM EST

Re: He can focus all he likes... (none / 0)

Who's been dismissed.  He's been to 48 states, or something close to that number.  

Your primary example here is Puerto Rico and you say his primary strategy will carry over into the GE. Maybe it would make more sense if you dropped another word or two.

instead of "but Obama's primary strategy will carry over into the GE.  His primary dismissive behavior will haunt him in the GE."

how 'bout

"but Obama's primary strategy will carry the GE."

I didn't change your meaning there, did I?


by niksder on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:49:58 AM EST
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Re: Where in the World in Barack Obama? (2.00 / 1)

Diarist is very uniformed about Senator Obama, and the Obama campaign in Puerto Rico.  He has a campaign organization there, has won the support of more mayors than Senator Clinton, his wife has been there, Bill Richardson has been there - and he was just there.

He has several former Governor's of Puerto Rico campaigning for him along with the beloved daughter of Munoz Marin as well.

Though Clinton is expected to win - it will not be a blowout.

Suggest you check out Puerto Ricn newspapers (San Juan Star, El Vovero) before making these assertions.


Anthropologists for human diversity; opposing McCain perversity
by NeciVelez on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:08:13 AM EST

puerto rico (none / 0)

In case you have forgotten, there is a general election in roughly six months. He is right in focusing his energies on that and not Puerto Rico, which doesn't even matter in the GE. He has much bigger fish to fry now.


"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale
by april34fff on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:50:45 AM EST


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