Open Letter to the Rules and Bylaws Committee

I have sat in and observed many of the RBC meeting mostly out of interest in the Shay Amendment. However I also witnessed first hand the jealousy and competitiveness of so many state parties who want the special status to go first and all of the political, media and financial benefits that go along with the early window. The RBC's needed to act swiftly in August and December to prevent total chaos before January. Your job was to herd cats through a minefield. You truly have my sympathies.

I have read the complete DNC Delegate Selection Rules along with the RBC transcripts for both the August and December meetings when both Florida and Michigan were ruled in violation and lost all of their delegates (I also observed the December meeting in Vienna VA).

There are a number of points worth considering.

Dear Rubican Members:
 I have sat in and observed many of the RBC meeting mostly out of interest in the Shay Amendment. However I also witnessed first hand the jealousy and competitiveness of so many state parties who want the special status to go first and all of the political, media and financial benefits that go along with the early window. The RBC's needed to act swiftly in August and December to prevent total chaos before January. Your job was to herd cats through a minefield. You truly have my sympathies.

I have read the complete DNC Delegate Selection Rules along with the RBC transcripts for both the August and December meetings when both Florida and Michigan were ruled in violation and lost all of their delegates (I also observed the December meeting in Vienna VA).

There are a number of points worth considering.

The Delegate Selection Rules, DSR, provide several paths for state in violation of timing to get back into compliance and have their delegations sat. The DSR also give the RBC the authority to create an independent committee to plan a contest in compliance should the offending state party and legislature not cooperate to resolve the timing violation. It's fair to say the rules were written with the intent that any violations be resolved so that come August the rank and file voters of the offending state will have their candidate preference fully considered in Denver. All parties had a responsibility to resolve this problem, including the DNC, the RBC and both the Clinton and Obama campaign. It is 8 months since Florida was stripped and 5 months since Michigan. Should the voters pay the price because ALL of the concerned parties failed their duties to push for a fair resolution before this late date?

At the August RBC meeting Florida requested a waiver on the grounds allowed in the DSR as it was a 2/3rds Republican majority and the Republican Governor that passed the early primary legislation. Also The Florida Republicans added an amendment to the bill that for the first time since 2000 would have required a paper trail for all Florida voting equipment. The DNC lost both the 2000 and 2004 elections in part because of "lost" votes with Florida's paperless electronic voting equipment. Florida Dems have also lost many down ticket races for Congress and state office due to voting irregularities that probably wouldn't have occurred with a paper trail. Florida Democrats presented a very persuasive and eloquent argument that they had no control over the early timing. Also that there reluctance to fight legislation that would require a paper trail was in the interest of the Democratic Party winning back the White House in 2008. Curiously after Florida presented their case with their request for a waiver, Ralph Dawson immediate moved to strip Florida of all delegates before the RBC even discussed the merits of Florida's waiver request.

In contrast both Iowa and New Hampshire also violated the RBC timing plan by moving their respective contests to January 3rd and 8th respectively. Curiously Donna Brazile had no mercy or sympathy for Florida even though the paper trail would solve many of the issues her Voting Rights Institute was focused on. However at the December meeting Brazile fawned over both IA and NH and granted them waivers even though their move was purely out of self-interest with no consideration for winning back the White House or protecting disenfranchised voters.

Michigan is equally problematic however less so than the media reports. Much ado is being made over Obama not being on the ballot. As I interpret the DSR and the rules of the MI contest, candidates are responsible for getting their names on the ballot and keeping them on it. Obama removed his name from the Michigan ballot in October 2007. The RBC didn't discuss or penalize MI until December 2007, two months later. Obama removed his name from a primary that was getting delegates in October without being commanded by the DNC to do so. Even if one was to make the automatic sanction argument, that sanction required a 50% reduction. The primary still counted. At the December meeting Debbie Dingall said she begged Obama like she never begged any elected official before not to do this and penalize the voters of her state. I don't mean to sound harsh but it's obvious that the removal of names represented a cynical attempt to spoil an early contest where polls suggested an opponent would gain great momentum and to curry favor from the very territorial state parties of IA and NH.

If one was to follow the DSR, the Michigan contest was fair. Should the cynical actions of one candidate be allowed to hold the voters of a whole state hostage and place the force the DNC to bear the burden of complications they created for their own campaign? I feel the same way about the "Pledge(s)" forced on the candidates by the four sanctioned early window states. The Pledges only served the self-interests of Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina. Like the removal of names from the MI ballot, these were self-interested maneuvers that undermined the DNC's eventual fair resolution of an unfortunate situation. I certainly hope when the RBC deliberates and tries to hold some parties accountable for this mess, that candidates and the early window state parties are held just as accountable to the rules as the rank and file voters of Florida and Michigan for complicating an orderly and fair nominating process.

As your letter suggests there were attempts to have a fair revote in both states. Both Chairman Dean and the Clinton campaign agreed to several reasonable proposals that would allow all eligible Democrats in both states to participate. It wasn't the respective State Parties, the DNC or the Clinton campaign that blocked revote efforts. It was Obama's lawyers.

I realize that chairman Dean and the RBC has a responsibility to find a resolution that leaves supporters of both candidates feeling that they were treated as fair as possible. However it has been one candidate who has blocked any and all attempts at a fair revote. Should the voters of FL and MI be penalized because one candidate will not allow a contest to proceed that polls suggest he will lose? The RBC had the power to create an independent committee that could create a new contest that both candidates would have to agree to.

I agree both state legislatures violated the DSRs and that should not be rewarded. However On May 31, 2008 the DNC and the RBC also bear a good deal of responsibility towards the voices of three million Democrats being silenced. Reading the transcripts various RBC members acknowledged both in August and December that at some point the delegates from both states must be seated. In most election cycles once candidate would have garnered the 50% plus 1 votes needed to secure the nomination and seating the delegates by the fiat of the nominee or through the credentials committee would not be controversial. However when the race emerged as a close split after Super Tuesday, it should have been incumbent upon the DNC to aggressively force a resolution. This is not a matter of forgiving or excusing those responsible. It is simply wrong to force the Democratic rank and file voters to be penalized for the wrongdoings of their legislature and the inability of the DNC to force an earlier resolution. Twenty five percent of those in Florida are so angry that the DNC is pulling a James Baker on them with Donna Brazile repeating Kathleen Harris's talking points as a "neutral" commentator on CNN, they will either sit out or vote McCain should their primary results not be counted in full. They are serious. They believe the DNC and the candidates had every opportunity to negotiate a revote in good faith. As all parties failed to do so, they firmly believe the January results should accepted and they should be fully sat as is or they will spoil the election. Some Obama backing friends say they just couldn't vote McCain. In 2004 John Kerry offered the VP slot to McCain before he finally gave it to Edwards. McCain is far more moderate than Bush. Voting for him is not nearly as scary as we might hope.

On May 25th HBO will premiere the movie "Recount" about the Florida fiasco of 2000. The general public will have refreshed memories of Kathleen Harris twisting the election rules to block a recount. We will see images of Floridians with duck tape over their mouths protesting, as they became little footballs being tossed around by the self-interested political elite.
As a union shop Stewart I spend many days arguing rules and debating their interpretation and application. I have never encountered a rule that seems fair or perfect under every unforeseen situation that arises. I understand your dilemma. You have my sympathy. However which of the values that guide the Democratic Party are to be our guiding moral compass as we search for a resolution? Are we guided by the petty self-interest of states that jockey and fight for the status of the early window? Do we rule to placate the cynical maneuvers of candidates who would spoil a states primary to sabotage it their contest from being resolved in the future? Are we parliamentary fundamentalists who must interpret the rules coldly without humanity or common sense? Are we as Democrats concerned about the voices of the common citizen who may not have the money, pedigree or influence to have a voice on their own?

As you know I am a very partisan supporter of Senator Clinton. However I am also a Democrat who was outraged by the nonsense of 2000. I am also a Democrat who was very angry with John Kerry and the party for the relative complacence when uncounted voters faced similar disenfranchisement in 2004. How can we claim to be better than Jeb Bush, Kathleen Harris and James Baker if we let strategic electoral games and parliamentary procedure disenfranchise voters within our own party?

I personally think that as intended in the rules the DNC resolve the situation so that both delegations be fully sat. If the window of opportunity for a revote has passed, the circumstances are such that both states should be given a waiver.

In regard to 2012, the current DSR's flaws have grown exponentially. No we do not want a repeat of states moving their primary to the early window in 4 years. However I seriously doubt the RBC will not aggressively work towards a major overhaul of the Democratic Primary beginning with the new RBC in January 2009. I have confidence the RBC will use this dysfunctional election cycle to help pinpoint what needs to be overhauled so we can revamp the nominating process into one that will be compliant, smooth and best reflect the will of the voters and the spirit of the Democratic Party.
Yours Truly,
Jon Winkleman


Poll
did the DNC have a responsibility to force a settlement of the Florida and Michigan problems before this late date?
Yes, it's 8 months since Florida was stripped of delegates, Howard Dean should have forced all parties to meet with an arbitrator months ago
Florida and Michigan bear all responsibility but the DNC should find a settlement
Florida and Michigan broke the Rules and therefore should be nuked

Votes: 31
Results : Vote Link : Polls

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Re: Open Letter to the Rules and Bylaws Committee (2.00 / 2)

The Michigan fiasco can be 100% wholly blamed on Carl Levin, Debbie Dingel and Gov. Granholm. I hold those three morons totally responsible for creating the current mess we have. If Levin (and to a slightly lesser extent Dingell and Granholm) wasn't so unbelievably obsessed with moving Michigan outside of the primary window, this would never have happened. He's been rebuffed and unanimously shot down sooooooo many times by the DNC that it is realy, reallly, really starting to piss me off that he won't fucking drop it already. I don't know why he thinks his state is more special than all of the others who have to hold their primaries after Feb. 5th.

If Michigan voters are looking for someone to point the finger at, they need look no further than their own senior Senator.


by Deano963 on Sun May 25, 2008 at 01:16:02 AM EST

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Big problem in your diary, the Florida Democrats were fully in favor of moving up the primary. There's a video of Geller, laughing as he voted for the move-up of the primary date.

And the Michigan state party put all the candidates' names on the ballot---and it wasn't Obama's campaign that did this. They had to specifically ask to remove themselves from the ballot.


by slinkerwink on Sun May 25, 2008 at 01:53:14 AM EST

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by Hillarywillwin on Sun May 25, 2008 at 02:00:40 AM EST
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And here's more information about Steve Geller (2.00 / 1)

Geller added an amendment to the January 29 primary vote, and then he joined the rest of the House in laughing his own amendment down. Then in a letter to Dean two months later, he said they were outvoted on the amendment. But the Rules Committee had the transcript.

Here is the letter from Senator Steven A. Geller to Governor Howard Dean apparently in May of this year...after the vote was taken in March.

The Democratic Leadership in the Florida Senate and House of Representatives attempted to adhere to the rules of the DNC by offering amendments to keep the presidential preference primary on February 5, 2008. A copy of the amendment offered by myself and the Senate Democratic Leader Pro Tempore is included with this letter. An identical amendment was filed by the House Democratic Leader and the House Democratic Leader Pro Tempore. But as we are still the minority party in a Republican controlled Legislature, our amendments were overwhelmingly defeated. Simply put--we were outvoted, a scenario which - I'd like to caution - will be difficult to change should you move forward with any sanctions because of the primary date change.

In addition, while our amendments failed, we as Democrats voted for the final product. The legislation we supported finally moved our state from the punch lines into the headlines with regard to election reform, including the creation of a verifiable paper trail, a change long overdue. A verifiable paper trail was one of our Caucus priorities and important to many members of Congress as well.

Well, that sounds very good. But here is more of what the Rules Committee knew before they took their vote on Saturday. Actually Geller laughed out loud at his own amendment. Amazing. From the comments which refer to an Adam C. Smith article.

The DNC members had handouts that included quotes by House Minority leader Dan Gelber brushing off Howard Dean, and the following transcript of Steve Geller making the motion to move the primary to Feb. 5:

Geller: "...So the Democratic leader and the Democratic leader pro tem are jointly making this motion, which we will duly show them later, that we tried not to have the election on, um, before (Feb. 5).
President: "And so Sen. Geller are you urging a negative vote or would you like us to pass this vote?"
Geller: "Oh no sir. We really, really want this. Don't we senator? (sarcasm and audible laughter in chamber).

So they really did not make an effort to oppose the Republicans. It was all a joke to them.

Both parties voted yes. They wanted to be "relevant." Nothing wrong with that at all....just as long as you don't try to lie about what you did.

House Republicans and Democrats passed the earlier primary bill (HB 537) by a 115-1 vote - a challenge to the national parties that are wielding threats in an attempt to prevent a nationwide race for earlier and earlier primaries.


by slinkerwink on Sun May 25, 2008 at 01:59:14 AM EST

Re: And here's more information about Steve Geller (none / 0)

Slink:  good to see you here.


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by LtWorf on Sun May 25, 2008 at 03:02:54 AM EST
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At this point, MI and FL will not affect the (none / 0)

outcome of the primary, no matter how the delegates are seated (or not seated).

The RBC will still have to wrangle with what to do, of course, but it's mostly a process of figuring out how to penalize the rule violators without losing too many voters in the process.


by myddfree on Sun May 25, 2008 at 03:05:42 AM EST

This (none / 0)

This was a very calm rational diary and highly objective as well.  Recommended.  


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Sun May 25, 2008 at 04:11:30 AM EST

Re: Open Letter to the Rules and Bylaws Committee (none / 0)

In my letter which I did send to people I know on the RBC, I did not argue that Florida or Michigan's State Parties and the Democrats in their legislature were innocent. They really screwed up and they deserve some punishment.

The issue is the 3 million rank and file voters of both states who are wholly removed from this fiasco. The Rules provide and intend for resolution for unsanctioned primaries. There were multiple ways this could have been resolved by a fair revote within the proper timeframe.

The RBC had the power to create an independent committee to work this out should the other parties not cooperate. It was incumbent on them to do so when it became apparent that the primary would be a tight race to the end. They did not.

It serves the nominating process well when states follow the timing and the other rules. However it also greatly serves the process when we let every state weigh in properly on the nominee.

The DNC is about to bite it's nose to spite it's face. The State PArty officials and the members of the state legislatures will eventually back the nominee regardless of what happens to their delegations. However a large portion of voters, probably the winning margin, within those states won't.

The MI and FL state parties were horrible. However will we punish the rank and file voters and also conceed the electoral vote in November to 2 important swing states?


Jon Winkleman
by Jon Winkleman on Sun May 25, 2008 at 11:33:36 AM EST


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