Warner Being Considered For VP?

OK, time for some more VP speculation. Caveat: it's via Robert Novak, but interesting nonetheless:

Former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, a strong favorite to be elected to the Senate this year, has told associates that he is being considered as Barack Obama's vice presidential running mate. He did not indicate whether he would be receptive to such an offer.

Removing Warner from the campaign for the seat now held by retiring Republican Sen. John Warner (no relation) would turn a sure Democratic takeover to a question mark. Mark Warner is heavily favored against the Republican nominee, former Gov. Jim Gilmore, but no substitute Democratic candidate is at hand.

Although no Democratic presidential nominee has carried Virginia since Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964, Democrats see the state as being in play for the 2008 election and would like to see a Virginian on the national ticket. Both current Gov. Tim Kaine and freshman Sen. Jim Webb have been mentioned, but neither possesses Warner's prestige.

There's no doubt Warner would be a frontrunner, maybe THE frontrunner, if he wasn't running for Senate. He was the favored nominee for many before suddenly withdrawing from the race last year, and would be an ideal standard bearer for the Dems moving forward IMO. He's charismatic and brings economic and executive leadership to the ticket (although not foreign policy) and helps further the outsider theme. He's got a 62% approval rating in Virginia (compared to  only 47% for Webb).

Picking him would turn the Senate run into a question mark as Novak says, but so does picking Webb, longer term. So does his Senate run make him a nonstarter? Would having Warner on the ticket as VP basically ensure a Dem win anyway, if a good replacement were to be found? More importantly, would this help Jerome Armstrong finally get on board with Obama?:D

UPDATE: Interesting anecdote from a Warner fundraising event:
In the brief 60 seconds I had talking to the former governor, I asked him if he still stood by the previous statement he made when he announced his bid for the U.S. Senate, at which time he categorically stated that vying for the VP position was a non-issue. He asserted that there was definitely "some wiggle room" from his earlier claim.

Later that evening, when his aide was introducing him to the small crowd of about 100 attendees before the question and answer session, the aid remarked that, "you can ask him anything, including if he wants to run as VP!" Questions proceeded, but none regarding his VP aspirations. The crowd must have thought that Gov. Warner's aid was being facetious. As they closed up the Q&A, the aid said something to the effect, "And no one wanted to know if he would take the VP slot? Well...." The aid then shouted verbatim, "Yes, he'd take it in a nanosecond!"

Gov. Warner smiled and clarified that "maybe not a nanosecond", but that we might hear more about it in the future.



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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (2.00 / 3)

Warner was my first choice.

If Obama picks him , it would make me more favorably disposed to him


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Sat May 24, 2008 at 02:50:06 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (2.00 / 2)

Me too. You do like the Virginians :)


by elrod on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:19:12 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (2.00 / 1)

It's a done deal.


Obama/Warner 2008
by MissVA on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:27:00 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Warner was my first choice as well. After he dropped out, it was either Obama or Richarson for me.


by Deano963 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:36:17 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Warner is my top choice, but do we know if there are any credible Virgina Democrats on deck to replace him on the ballot?


by Pat Flatley on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:00:40 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

No. And as a Virginian, I feel this same conundrum. Warner's great, but if we take him out of that race, we probably lose that Senate seat.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:26:58 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Doesn't the governor get to appoint a replacement?


by sweet potato pie on Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:25:24 PM EST
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He could runb for both (2.00 / 1)

like Lieberman did.
Then Kaine would appoint his replacement in January.
by parahammer on Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:27:05 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Yes - Don Beyer - former lt governor


by animated on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:01:26 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

No no no.

While he might make a great VP, why would you want to jeopardize a slam dunk new Democratic Senator from Virginia?  He is much more valuable to the party running for the Senate.


by rf7777 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:01:33 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

The only rationale for putting Warner on the ticket would be to nab Virginia -- and only then, if we absolutely needed to. Otherwise, I'd rather have the slam-dunk Senate seat.


by RP McMurphy on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:12:49 PM EST

those 13 electoral votes (none / 0)

might come in handy.

How certain are you Virginian posters that Warner could deliver VA for Obama?

And is the idea of him running for Senate and VP really a possibility?


McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.
by obsessed on Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:43:04 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Not the only rationale - he brings business and executive experience (helped found Nextel, turned VA's aconomy around, rated best governor in the country) and bipartisan credibility. Comes across as a regular guy so would help in the same way as Edwards in the cultural sense. He's a perfect fit for Obama's message and more polished and charismatic than Webb, Sebelius, or Richardson.


by animated on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:10:55 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Actually, he also does ridiculously well with the middle class white voter demo Barack is having "trouble" with.


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Sun May 25, 2008 at 12:32:02 AM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Without Warner on the ticket it is very like that Jim Gilmore would win the senate and he is worse than santorum.

david


by giusd on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:12:50 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

I worry about that too.  I just don't know who would step in for Warner at this point. The VA GOP is in deep trouble but the Dems are still building their bench.


by elrod on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:21:02 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Santorum? Yeech. Ever Googled "Santorum"?


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:31:32 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

I think the governor can name a a replacement and if I am correct, he can run for both senate and vp at the same time like Joe Lieberman.


by sweet potato pie on Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:26:16 PM EST
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Correct (2.00 / 1)

He will be seated as a Senator in early January, resign, and his replacement would be appointed by Kaine.
He would then swear in as VP Jan 20th.
by parahammer on Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:28:40 PM EST
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Hold On (none / 0)

As I understand it Warner can run for Senate AND VP at the same time and if Obama/Warner win then Kaine appoints the new senate member


by CaptainMorgan on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:15:22 PM EST

Re: Hold On (none / 0)

That assumes warner wins the senate seat also by the way


by CaptainMorgan on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:15:51 PM EST
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Meh (none / 0)

Most polls have Warner over Gilmore somewhere in the 55%-37% range.


by rf7777 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:38:31 PM EST
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Re: Hold On (none / 0)

The question is, would that seat be a lock anyway with Warner on the ticket as VP?


by animated on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:17:29 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (2.00 / 2)

Speaking as a Virginian. Picking Warner would likely ensure Virginia for Obama. Sorry folks. But the presidency trumpets. It would be a wise move for Obama.

Warner would be a perfect choice in 2016.


Obama/Warner 2008
by MissVA on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:28:57 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Now there is some thinking... if Warner is a great canidate like everyone keeps saying we could really be looking ahead... like 16 years ahead


by CaptainMorgan on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:31:38 PM EST
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I agree 100% (none / 0)

Winning the Presidency is much more important than winning any senate seat. Warner would GAURANTEE Virginia if he were on the ticket. Add Virginia's EV's to those of Iowa and New Mexico (two states Obama will carry against McCain) and all Obama has to do is carry all of the Kerry states and he defeats McCain, EVEN if he ended up losing New Hampshire to McCain.

Plus, there's the fact that Jim Gilmore is an incredibly BAD candidate to begin with. I can't believe how everyone acts as if Warner is the only Democrat who could defeat him. If Warner was picked for VP, he could just have Tim Kaine become the Democratic nominee for Senator and Tim Kaine would most likely defeat Gilmore. Problem solved.


by Deano963 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 03:44:43 PM EST
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I'd sure like to not have to worry about OH and FL (none / 0)

With those two landmines removed from the road to the WH, I'd sleep a lot easier.


McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.
by obsessed on Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:44:35 PM EST
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Ahhh that's right..... (none / 0)

I didn't even think about that, but you're right. If Obama were to pick Warner as his VP, he would have an almost bullet-proof EV path to the White House that didn't involve Ohio or Florida. Now, I honestly believe that Obama is going to win Ohio in the end (although most likely lose Florida), but it would be incredibly awesome if he didn't HAVE to win it.


by Deano963 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:33:38 PM EST
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without VA (none / 0)

It's threading the needle to win without PA.

With VA, there are many combinations of swing states that do the trick, including some where we lose OH, FL and PA.


McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.
by obsessed on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:51:28 PM EST
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Re: without VA (none / 0)

No democrat is losing PA... seriously.. not happening


by CaptainMorgan on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:09:27 PM EST
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FYLTGE (none / 0)

(from your lips to god's ear)


McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.
by obsessed on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:36:23 PM EST
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Re: without VA (none / 0)

Um.....he isn't going to lose PA (probably even in a worst-case scenario0, so what's your point? Are you just being a concern troll?

You do realize that the last FIVE consecutive polls out of PA have Obama leading McCain by an average of 6.4 points don't you? You are seriously smoking some pretty potent crack if you think any Democrat can lose that state in the general with Ed Rendell and his unprecedented turnout machine still in office.


by Deano963 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:43:41 PM EST
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Re: Ahhh that's right..... (none / 0)

Exactly. It would be GREAT to take FL and OH off the table as must wins, and force McCain to not just defend those, but campaign in several other states where Obama has an advantage. That's the genius of this pick IMO.


by animated on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:07:21 PM EST
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Re: I agree 100% (none / 0)

Don't get ahead of yourself. Cold hard realism is needed when you have the first non-white candidate in American history.

Having Warner will not 'guarantee' Virginia but it just enforces further Obama's appeal in the state and makes it threading likely.

Make no illusion. Even with Warner. The campaign and the party will have to drive voter registration and GOTV's on a massive scale.


Obama/Warner 2008
by MissVA on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:08:45 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

I would love this pairing.


by wasder on Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:24:42 PM EST

don't know much about him (none / 0)

Could one of you Virgnians tell me a little bit about Warner.  Don't know much except that he's popular.

Can read up on The Google, but it's always nice to get an assessment from a constituent.

Thanks.


by emptythreatsfarm on Sat May 24, 2008 at 04:37:18 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (2.00 / 1)

Warner was my first pick, this would be my dream ticket.

Who could then for the Senate seat?  Kaine i would hope.


by Bobby Obama on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:12:02 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Kaine or Don Beyer


by animated on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:14:05 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

NO way in hell.  Honestly, the Ds are not going to give up a virtual lock pickup in the Senate, not when Webb would likely be a good or better pick.


by skywaker9 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:17:47 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

Webb looks good on paper, but I'm starting to wonder. He's not exactly a great campaigner, and the misogony in some of his past remarks and in his novels are great fodder for the Repubs.


by animated on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:17:09 PM EST
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Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (2.00 / 1)

I'd glady give up a Senate seat that is already Republican if we gain the Presidency.


by mbfeldma on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:51:06 PM EST

Re: Warner Being Considered For VP? (none / 0)

hahaha the cheap imitation Bill Clinton. I actually think its kind of funny seeing him, and he looks like hes done a great job in VA. Its a big shame he couldn't serve a second term, or he'd be a great contender for this year, or be a gov in 2012 if we should lose in 2008. Govs do better than Senators. I'd be for him on the ticket, except we already have an experience problem with Obama. Warner's got less than Obama in experience, and doesn't have any military he brings to the table. I'd say Warner stick to the Senate instead. Its more likely he wins the seat than helps Obama in the GE.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Sat May 24, 2008 at 07:42:53 PM EST


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