Why are journalists asking Hillary Clinton to quit?

"It is time people start asking themselves who is our stronger candidate against John McCain in the fall?  And if people will only look at that that strengthens our argument...I'm making that argument. I believe it. Obviously I would not be working as hard as I am with the conviction with the passion I feel for taking back the White House if I did not believe it. And it's especially important that we try to get people to start focusing on this..."
-Hillary Clinton, May 16, 2008 conference with bloggers hosted by Peter Daou

Clinton believes the Democratic nominee should be the candidate who has the best chance of winning the leadership of the Executive branch. And she believes she is that candidate. Yet political journalists have said she should quit despite overwhelming evidence from primaries and exit polls that Clinton is the strongest Democratic candidate: greater support from swing states, more votes (including FL and MI), stronger in one-vote-per-person voting system (similar to general election), more support from huge important groups (women, Hispanics, Reagan Democrats, seniors), etc.

The journalists' behavior is even more suspect because they have not acted this way toward another candidate. According to Eric Boehlert, never in the history of the United States have journalists converged to tell a candidate to drop out during the primary season:

"Strong second-place candidates such as Ronald Reagan (1976), Ted Kennedy, Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson, and Jerry Brown, all of whom campaigned through the entire primary season, and most of whom took their fights all the way to their party's nominating conventions, were never tagged by the press and told to go home."

"Clinton is being held to a different standard than virtually any other candidate in history," wrote Steven Stark in the Boston Phoenix. "When Clinton is simply doing what everyone else has always done, she's constantly attacked..."
...
Boehlert says it's acceptable for bloggers to suggest that a candidate quit but that mainstream media should not tell voters how to vote.  He observes that this primary season pundits are "... announcing not only that voters should not support Clinton, but that she should also quit. She should stop competing.
...
...this is not part of some larger liberal media conspiracy where the Beltway press is desperate to elect a Democrat and that's why so many journalists are anxious to get Clinton to quit -- because it might help the party's chances in November. The truth is, as The Daily Howler noted last week [April], the Beltway media's love affair with John McCain only grows deeper and more affectionate with each passing day.
...
Boehlert says in other primary contests there was an "assumption among journalists that candidates had earned the right to decide when they should quit. Journalists also respected the fact that candidates represented a sizable portion of the primary voting public and that the candidates owed it to their supporters to fight on, that there was a symbolic significance for the candidates -- and their supporters -- to persevere.

With Clinton, though, the press seems to have almost complete disregard for the 14 million voters [17 million currently] who have backed her candidacy, as well as the idea that she is their representative...they treat her entire campaign as some sort of vanity exercise in which voters do not exist."

Boehlert says other candidates were praised for continuing their campaigns. And I believe Hillary Clinton should be praised for her strength, resilience and leadership during this campaign. Clinton is the candidate who has been able to unify 40-60% of Democrats for the longest stretch during the nomination contest. No one else has been able to do that and no one will be able to do that. Against all odds Clinton prevailed many times.  She is a leader strong enough to win the presidency.

The main question is, "Why have pundits ganged up against Hillary Clinton to quit but apparently they have not done that to other candidates in U.S. history?" Clinton has been singled out and in order to find out why it is necessary to determine how Clinton is different from every other major presidential nominee candidate.  One difference is gender.  Therefore, it's reasonable to assume that the main motivation of pundits who are telling Clinton to quit is that they are sexist. I'm not saying that sexism is the main cause, only that it is reasonable to assume it is.  Also, note that some women have sexist beliefs so a female pundit is not necessarily free of sexism.

People have said media pundits are demanding Clinton quit because of sexism. Many pundits are trying hard to convince people they are not sexist by writing entire columns about the subject.  But the "I'm not sexist" argument doesn't sound true because no pundit has been able to explain why the media has ganged up against Clinton to demand she quit but has not done so to any other candidate in U.S. history.

A person arguing that sexism is not the reason for the demands to quit would need to figure out how else Clinton is different from every other major presidential nominee candidate. I will repeat Steven Stark's words: "Clinton is being held to a different standard than virtually any other candidate in history."  There have been contests where at the end of the primary/caucus season the top candidates had similar delegate and/or popular vote support.  What is it about Clinton that is undeniably different from every other strong presidential nominee candidate that would cause the majority of pundits to tell her to quit when they did not do this to other candidates throughout U.S. history?

This question does not seek to analyze whether Clinton should or shouldn't quit; it seeks to analyze journalists' behavior, in specific what motivated political journalists to coalesce as a gang to get Clinton to quit considering that journalists have never acted that way towards any other presidential nomination candidate from U.S. history.

Source:
http://mediamatters.org/columns/20080430 0001



Display:


Katie Couric, is that you? (1.40 / 5)

People have said media pundits are demanding Clinton quit because of sexism.

If this were wikipedia, this diary would be deleted cuz of the weasel words!


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:01:14 PM EST

Exactly!! This diary provides no quotes (1.66 / 3)

The diary doesn't provide a single name of a reporter asking hillary why she doesn't she drop out.

not a single one.

It's all apart of campaign to create a backlash.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:28:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Exactly!! This diary provides no quotes (1.00 / 0)

This is another one of those false "Show Me" posts we see so much of from Obama supporters.

Everybody has seen the calls for Hillary to quit, over and over, from pundits and journalists (if there is such a thing as journalism any more in the United States), everywhere from the Washington Post to MSNBC to NPR.  If you claim not to have seen them, you must have your head in a hole.  It's not our duty to find examples of what is everywhere around you that you don't want to see.  Your "Show Me" post is just an evasion to avoid having to respond to the point of the diary.  It's not likely that you could actually come up with a response so you're playing the Show Me game.

And even if I conceded that no journalist said it (which is false), there is still no explanation other than sexism for the behavior of the pundits, which even you have acknowledged.

And that explanation fits perfectly with our cultural stereotypes:  the little girl who falls down and cries on the playground.

That's what you all wish Hillary would do.  But she won't.

She is a better candidate and a better person than Obama, and she should take it all the way to the convention.


by PlainWords on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:42:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

If it's so easy, name one (none / 0)

go ahead - name one.  

One.

A single one.

Provide a quote and a link.  

If there's so many, it should be easy.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:04:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: If it's so easy, name one (2.00 / 1)

Follow the links in the Boehlert piece and you'll see many.  But you would have to take your blinders off.


by PlainWords on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:22:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

See, I was right (none / 0)

you couldn't find a single one quote with a link.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:05:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Exactly!! This diary provides no quotes (none / 0)

But if they were...

The answer would be

Because they can count?


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:52:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

calling it as one sees it is different (2.00 / 4)

than asking her to quit.  Not that I like the man much, but Matthews put it pretty well.  The journalists love this and wish it could go on for forever.  But they have a duty to tell people the truth, and the truth is at this point, Hillary cannot win unless Obama dies or is caught in a massive scandal.  And hoping for that is despicable.


by semiquaver on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:02:39 PM EST

Re: calling it as one sees it is different (none / 0)

Best spin ever.

I favorited that on YouTube so when people take politicians too seriously I can just play that clip.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:04:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

whoops, wrong video (2.00 / 2)

The extended one is much better.

by semiquaver on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:08:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: whoops, wrong video (2.00 / 2)

I JUST found this!

My Favoooooorite clip from last night!

enjoy:


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:16:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You guys are too good (2.00 / 1)

Here I was going to reference these videos, but here you come and link them directly.

Jerks.

Good call, though. :)


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:24:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: whoops, wrong video (2.00 / 1)

At the 3:10 mark he starts the set up.  Then it's a thing of beauty after that.  


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:50:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: whoops, wrong video (none / 0)

Chris Mathews has justified his entire existance in the last week.

Some thought he was being phased out,  nah nah nah,  they are going to keep him.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:58:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Wasn't that GREAT !!! (none / 0)

She chomped on the bait, hook, line and Zzzzinker!

He even says, "thank you" the movement she agrees that Supers overturning the pledged delegate count would be elitist.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:18:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Pundits != Journalist (2.00 / 1)

No journalists are saying she should get out. Pundits, aka paid opinion givers, are because it is their job to speculate on the past, preset, and future state of the race.

Get over it.


John McCain wants to make abortion illegal
by Lost Thought on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:03:36 PM EST

Which journalists have asked her to quit? (2.00 / 1)

Names and direct quotes please.


by JJE on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:03:43 PM EST

Re: Which journalists have asked her to quit? (2.00 / 2)

Click on the link at the end for evidence of journalists who demanded that Clinton quit.  If you read political news frequently it is very obvious that many journalists want Clinton to quit.  I have read dozens of statements from journalists who say Clinton should quit, complain that she is not quitting or tell her to quit.


by Nancy Kallitechnis on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:14:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]

none of them demanded she quit (2.00 / 1)

you should read the original pieces more carefully instead of relying on Boehlert's distortions.


by JJE on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:18:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yes they did. (2.00 / 2)

We have read them.  Maybe you should read them again, if you ever really read them in the first place.


by PlainWords on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:47:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Give me some direct quotes in context (none / 0)

because I'm not seeing what you are seeing.  I'm also not sure how you can speak for what others - "we" - have read, but the ways of the dead-ender are opaque to me.


by JJE on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:16:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Give me some direct quotes in context (2.00 / 1)

Follow the links in Boehlert's piece.  Honestly, if you really cared about finding out, you would have.

And the "we" referred to the other poster.  

Also, the name-calling is gratuitous, but I understand it's the best you can do.


by PlainWords on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:21:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

so you can't do it. Thanks for the concession. (2.00 / 0)


by JJE on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:20:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

quotes (none / 0)

Go here for quotes:

http://mediamatters.org/columns/20080430 0001

excerpt:
"...after Clinton won the Pennsylvania primary convincingly last week, she awoke the next morning to read an angry New York Times editorial, "beseeching her to get the hell out of the race," as Howard Kurtz put it at washingtonpost.com."


by Nancy Kallitechnis on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:41:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

you must be joking (none / 0)

that's Eric boehlert quoting Howard Kurtz paraphrasing someone else. You really can't be serious.
by JJE on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:19:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obamabots always tell us to "go (none / 0)

read" all about BO's policies (you know, the ones that he can't explain or defend without a teleprompter) but when you suggest they read a diary right up top, they freak out.

Dooh.  I would guess they are so young they haven't learned how to read yet.


by CoyoteCreek on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:52:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

hang in there Nancy (2.00 / 2)

you are right and the calls to "prove it" are the last straw arguments of people who have no arguments.


For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:01:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Why are journalists (none / 0)

I've never seen so many straw men in one place.


by DeskHack on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:04:32 PM EST

Um........ (1.50 / 2)

B/c she lost?


by Deano963 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:12:35 PM EST

Re: Why are journalists asking Hillary Clinton to (2.00 / 1)

Mostly what I have heard is that Obama has the majority of delegates so he is probably the presumptive nominee.

If this is saying she should quit you hear it differently than I.

Now what I have heard are the pundits wondering why she is staying in it. This is what they do. If the roles were reversed they would be wondering and asking the same thing about Obama.

They do this and they love doing this. It's not Hillary it's not Obama. Put any two candidates in this situation and it would be the same.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:15:56 PM EST

Re: The press has sunk to a new low (2.00 / 1)

Sorry, it's not "what they do."  I have never seen a press so nasty as this in more than half a century.


by PlainWords on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:55:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The press has sunk to a new low (none / 0)

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. As I am to mine.

However I would like to see something in the MSM, not the blogs, that you consider nasty. Not doubting you just would like to be able to agree with you and say I am wrong. Or see if we just have a difference of opinion about what is nasty.

At 60 this looks all pretty familiar to me.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:45:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Why are journalists asking Hillary Clinton to (2.00 / 2)

Because they have invested themselves in the obama campaign.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:20:37 PM EST

Ridiculous (none / 0)

They've invested themselves in the horse race, not the campaign.

This thing has given them cheap ratings for six months straight.  They couldn't care less who eventually wins, as long as they have grist for the mill.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:26:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ridiculous (2.00 / 2)

They've invested themselves in the horse race, not the campaign.

- Yeah thats why they want her to quit , because they want the horserace.

I am sure there is a contradiction in there somewhere.

Infact I expect one by one they would quit there day job anytime now and go and work on the obama camp.

Linda Douglass is the first to take the plunge , I expect Mr I have a thrill up my leg to be next , followed by He is no Edward Murrow Olbermann of Countdown to the crapper


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:31:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I do have a big problem with the daily (none / 0)

"good night and good luck"

it's incredibly pretentious.


by semiquaver on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:34:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ridiculous (none / 0)

Name one pundit that really wants Clinton to quit.

Seriously.  They want her to fight it to the convention because that would be an incredible news story.  FLOOR FIGHT!

The ones who say that she shouldn't are speaking from either practicality or some sort of solidarity with the Democratic party.  But to be sure... they all win if this goes on longer.

Don't believe Geraldine Ferraro.  She gets paid by Fox News.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:35:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ridiculous (2.00 / 2)

" Don't believe Geraldine Ferraro.  She gets paid by Fox News. "

-  ????
 


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:42:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

What? (none / 0)

She's a paid talking head on Fox.  This is fact.  TrueFact, even.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:59:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ridiculous (none / 0)

Why not,  Lori you can't stand by that woman?

I don't believe the hype that she is senile or crazy, I think she knows exactly what she is doing.

She is blowing that dog whistle thinking other women of her generation will here that whistle.

One of the great villains of this campaign, right up there with Penn.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:00:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ridiculous (2.00 / 1)

Why not,  Lori you can't stand by that woman?

- As a matter of fact I do

Rather her than Rev. Wright like Obama did for 20 years

" I don't believe the hype that she is senile or crazy, I think she knows exactly what she is doing."

- I don't know who has ever suggested she is , maybe folks on Obama's network .


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:23:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ridiculous (none / 0)

People trying to protect her.

If you want to stand next to a woman who like Lieberman squandered her whole reputation and career to attack Democrats.

She will be remembered for nothing else than being a bigot.

Why would she turn herself into a villain decryed by the whole country?


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:45:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

pundit that wants Clinton to quit (2.00 / 2)

Name one pundit that really wants Clinton to quit.

At the New York times Nicholas Kristof often complained that Clinton should leave.  Click on the link at the end of my diary for more information about pundits who want Clinton to quit.


by Nancy Kallitechnis on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:58:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Well yes (none / 0)

Kristof has two Pulitzers.  He's credible enough to speak without worrying about his ratings.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:01:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

this diary is not about ratings (none / 0)

Regardless of whether Kristof has high ratings or low ratings he joined the gang of journalists to get Hillary Clinton out of the contest.  The big question is "What motivates journalists to gang up against Hillary Clinton to try to get her to drop out of the race, considering journalists have never done that before?"


by Nancy Kallitechnis on Wed May 21, 2008 at 08:36:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

If that were true... (none / 0)

...then you might have a point.  Journalists aren't doing that, however, and the fact that you can only come up with Kristof is pretty telling.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Thu May 22, 2008 at 09:16:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Joyful noise (none / 0)

A person arguing that sexism is not the reason for the demands to quit would need to figure out how else Clinton is different from every other major presidential nominee candidate. I will repeat Steven Stark's words: "Clinton is being held to a different standard than virtually any other candidate in history."  There have been contests where at the end of the primary/caucus season the top candidates had similar delegate and/or popular vote support.  What is it about Clinton that is undeniably different from every other strong presidential nominee candidate that would cause the majority of pundits to tell her to quit when they did not do this to other candidates throughout U.S. history?

Interestingly enough, Clinton IS being held to a different standard.  If she were treated like a normal candidate, she would've been nearly ignored after Obama racked up an insurmountable lead in February.  They went along with every goal post move eagerly.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:27:45 PM EST

Re: Joyful noise (2.00 / 4)

Yeah she was just supposed to walk away like a good girl even if his insurmountable lead was just 50 - 100 delegates in February.

You would think it would be up to the voters to decide that not mr thrill up my leg


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:33:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The voters did decide (none / 0)

The lead wasn't surmountable.  

Did she surmount it?

No.  Not even after she started to bring her A-game as the best campaigner some of these states had ever seen.

It wasn't surmountable.  


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:36:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The voters did decide (2.00 / 2)

How exactly would you have known that if she had quit in February.

" The voters did decide "

- Thats the point .

Its not the place of pundits to declare the race over or call on her to quit which they have been doing since the second contest in NH.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:44:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Nobody credible wanted her to quit (none / 0)

What we wanted was for her to not be irresponsible with her money.  Being in debt is enough to sideline most candidates.  She shoudn't have blown that much money or continued after she started to not be able to pay her vendors.

I don't care what pundits say.

For all I care, she could have Huckabee'd the entire race to this very moment and I wouldn't have had any ill will.  Huckabee, as you know, ran his entire campaign on a Hot Pocket and a quarter he found on the street.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.
by Dracomicron on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:58:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Joyful noise (none / 0)

Wrong

On Feb 19 the gap was 171 delegates post WI.  

90 days later the gap was 164 delegates before WV/OR

She has made up 4 delegates in 90 days.  That is a rate of 1 delegate every 22 days.  

By my calculations, she should catch up in around 3608 days or in the year 2018.  

So yes I guess it wasn't impossible.  


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:57:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Joyful noise (none / 0)

On Feb 19 the gap was 171 delegates post WI.  

90 days later the gap was 167 delegates before WV/OR

She has made up 4 delegates in 90 days.  That is a rate of 1 delegate every 22 days.  

By my calculations, she should catch up in around 3608 days or in the year 2018.  

So yes I guess it wasn't impossible.  


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:59:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Joyful noise (none / 0)

Sorry about the double post, must get better at preview vs. post.

My bad..


"The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not by arguing about it or spending time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it" -DL Moody
by nextgen on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:01:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Are they asking her to quit cuz Hill's a woman? (none / 0)


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:29:39 PM EST

How about Jack Cafferty?.... (2.00 / 3)

he constantly frames his little questions along the lines of , "Is it time for Hillary to quit."  try raeding Obama-loving sports columnist Mike Lupica in the Ny Daily News.  he trashes clinton in every column.


by handsomegent on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:32:29 PM EST

Re: Why are journalists asking Hillary Clinton to (2.00 / 2)

All The Way.
All The Way.
All The Way.
by JoeySky18 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:38:14 PM EST

Because Media's in the Tank for Obama (2.00 / 1)

It's highly illustrative that Linda Douglass, a journalist for the National Journal, is now going to work for the Obama campaign.  http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail /2008/05/21/douglass_joins_obama_campaig n.html

I'm sure many other supporters are jealous b/c they'd like to work for his campaign, too.  It's just disgusting the bias the press has shown in favor of Obama and the slant and negativity they've shown toward Hillary is remarkable.

When all this is said and done, the real losers in this process have been the media.


by unabashed dem on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:42:03 PM EST

Re: Because Media's in the Tank for Obama (2.00 / 2)

I agree that the media lose because they lose their integrity when they are extremely biased against a candidate.


by Nancy Kallitechnis on Wed May 21, 2008 at 05:51:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Journalists are asking Hillary to quit (2.00 / 2)

because of the reasons you wrote about---it is sexism.  Thank you, Nancy.  If Edwards was in the same position as Hillary, they would not be banging the drum for him to quit.  They think that women are meant to obey, back down---Hillary is a fighter, and I thought, as Democrats, we wanted someone like that, especially after Gore vs. Bush, and Kerry vs. Bush.  We've been complaining that the Dems. don't stand up to the biased media.  Hillary is standing up to the media---she's whom I have been waiting for.  

But I also think it's because Obama is "fresh meat". . . they want someone new to create headline news and ratings for them.  Hillary has been on the national media stage for over 16 years, they have raked her over the coals and now they are looking for new prey.  Most of us in the blogosphere have turned here for unbiased news because we have seen how biased the MSM news coverage has been throughout all of the presidential campaigns (and on other world situations---Iraq, Valerie Plame Wilson, Katrina, etc., etc.,) starting in the 80's and we were sick and tired of it.  The blogosphere was a news source that was trying to uncover/report the truth of what is going on in the world/nation, etc.

Yes, we have come a long way, baby, but we still have a long way to go and this primary election season has uncovered just how far we still need to go.  If Hillary inhabited a man's body, she would be admired for her perseverance, tenacity, boldness, spine, and leadership qualities----but because she doesn't, she's "annoying, irritating, bit**y."  Those  insults by the male "pundits" do a disservice to their mothers, wives, sisters, aunts, daughters and grandmothers who have struggled for their voices to be heard throughout the centuries.    


truthseeker2
by truthseeker2 on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:38:05 PM EST

Re: What journalists? (none / 0)

 We need a list.


by xdem on Wed May 21, 2008 at 06:48:09 PM EST

Re: Why are journalists asking Hillary Clinton to (none / 0)

nancy - dont bother.

just ask yourself - what progressive would stand idly by in silence or denial and watch sexism occur because to a fellow democrat for political ambition?

enough said.


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Wed May 21, 2008 at 08:27:14 PM EST

I'm not going to insult you, (none / 0)

I'll just say, this was when Nobody Knew Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Clinton is the candidate who has been able to unify 40-60% of Democrats for the longest stretch during the nomination contest."

I'm leaving now, MyDD is just another Hillis44 website, it's lost all credibility.

Maybe Obama supporters really are the more educated


McCain does Not support the troops
by hope monger on Wed May 21, 2008 at 11:49:52 PM EST


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