NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary

by Jonathan Singer, Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:00:20 PM EST

NBC News calls the Oregon primary for Barack Obama.




Tags: Oregon Primary, Oregon, Democratic Primaries (all tags)

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Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

Didn't waste any time - did they?


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by alegre on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:01:06 PM EST

They're the first to call it for anyone (none / 0)

Except the Indiana primary, which they held off on and CBS called first for a change.

They called Kentucky 3 seconds after polls closed, before CNN.


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by Lord Hadrian on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:02:39 PM EST
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So, Alegre (none / 0)

Can we take that as your congratulations to Senator Obama for his primary win in Oregon?


Let the children lose it Let the children use it Let all the children boogie
by toyomama on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:25:20 PM EST
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Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

They called KY for Clinton immediately after the polls closed as well, even though initially it was showing about a 2-4 point lead.

Misogynist bastards.


"More War Years! More War Years!" ~John McCain
by Tommy Flanagan on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:19:59 AM EST
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Congratulations Senator Obama! (none / 0)

LETS GO DUCKS, LETS GO DUCKS, LETS GO DUCKS!


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by Lord Hadrian on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:01:21 PM EST

Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

OBAMARAMA


by Lawyerish on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:02:30 PM EST

Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

Let's hear it for the hard-working white people of Oregon.


by KTinOhio on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:02:35 PM EST

Are they really white? (none / 0)

Sure they don't have arugula in their bellies?


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by Lord Hadrian on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:03:46 PM EST
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Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (2.00 / 1)

I see white people.


by DPW on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:02:45 PM EST

Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (2.00 / 0)

Is this where the surprise ending of the election is that John McCain has actually been dead since 1994 and no one could tell the difference?


by luckymortal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:26:32 PM EST
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Definitely the comment of the night. (none / 0)

Perfect set up and perfect hit.


Commissar: Canadian Gal; Proletariat Policemen: ragekage, Lord Hadrian. "For the Proletariat!"
by Lord Hadrian on Wed May 21, 2008 at 02:24:52 AM EST
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Inconceivable! (none / 0)

But, but, but....Oregon is full of working-class white people!  

What's going on?!


by thewittyname on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:03:32 PM EST

How was the OR exit poll conducted? (2.00 / 2)

Balloting is only through mail-in vote


John McCain
by MILiberal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:03:55 PM EST

Re: How was the OR exit poll conducted? (none / 0)

Phone-based polling of those who had already voted.


by DPW on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:07:00 PM EST
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Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

So if it is a 40,000 difference at 10%...does that point to an over 300,000 vote pick-up in Oregon...More than the 250,000 in Kentucky.


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by cardboard 1 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:09:21 PM EST

Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA*    

17,228,607 47.4% (O)

17,394,726 47.8% (C)  

Clinton +166,119 +0.46%

When Oregon is added in, this number may drop to a 60,000 popular vote lead.

Delegates do nominate, but the supers should acknolwedge the "fuzzy math" (sorry, guys) nature of delegate apportionment in congressional and state Senate districts.

Supers pay attention.


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:09:24 PM EST

Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

Oh, they will, indeed. Please keep making this claim to them. I implore you.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:10:34 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

I can't believe I share a Party with such sarcastic people.


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:12:49 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

I'm not being sarcastic in the least, I'm completely serious.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:14:04 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

I can't believe I share a party with any people!

YEEEEAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!


by luckymortal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:16:14 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

Hey, it's my party. And I'll lie if I want to.

Oh my God, I've got to run to another forum and use that RIGHT NOW.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:17:35 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (2.00 / 1)

Oi, ain't someone going to find me a statistician who says it's remotely valid math to add caucuses to open primaries to closed primaries in a non-homogeneous election?

This is basic math. The "popular vote" cannot be measured from that unrelated hodgepodge of numbers.

Unless you want to explain why that kind of math is ok?


by luckymortal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:14:46 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

I understand that math better than delegate apportionment.


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:16:06 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

We're all very appreciative of your unbiased look at that issue.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:18:16 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

YOu're missing the 500,000+ "popular vote caucus conversion points" to add to Obama's total to be able to reasonably add caucuses to raw (not converted into seated delegates as the rules require) vote tally.

And the -500,000 "popular vote open primary conversion points" required to not piss off small states with caucuses.

But hey, it's not the world series or anything important where the rubric established for deciding a winner actually matter, it's just democracy, everyone gets their own metric! YEA~!


by luckymortal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:21:02 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

ANd then I'm taking my mathematics to Puerto Rico and the superdelegates and the convention and then I'm taking it all the way to the white house!

YEEEEAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHH!


by luckymortal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:22:16 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

I don't know what you're talking about.

Let me make this easy: I get my numbers from Real Clear Politics. I trust them. I don't know where you're getting your information from.


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:25:55 PM EST
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Re: Popular Vote w/ Caucuses Included (none / 0)

It's snark, but I mean it. No one has been able to explain for me yet why they use this "popular vote" metric when it's just basic math that you can't do it. You need a common denominator to add these figures. Think of it as exchanging currency. You don't exchange dollars for Euros straight up do you?

The only reason I've heard to justify it is: "but the "currency" set up to measure the "will of the people" must be wrong."

That doesn't make a different non-sense metric that the current election was never intended to assess acurately any more valid.

See my diary on it here if you like.

http://www.mydd.com/user/luckymortal


by luckymortal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:33:30 PM EST
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Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

A big Yeeeaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh!!! for Obama!

ANd congratulations for anyone who was a workin and a callin there on both sides (I had to sit this one out.)

I can't wait to hear the Dem turn out numbers....


by luckymortal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:10:48 PM EST

Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

Ok, I'm done now.


by luckymortal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:24:37 PM EST

Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

Baby we were born to ADD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxNf2uCxd 3E
"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:05:14 AM EST

Re: NBC News: Barack Obama Wins Oregon Primary (none / 0)

I love this video!  I haven't seen it for about ten years, back when my son was still watching Sesame Street.


by KTinOhio on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:13:14 AM EST
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