HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.!

by bluestatedude, Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:44:22 PM EST

The HRC campaign just announced a new SD - Attorney General Martha Coakley of Massachusetts!

Quoting from an email just sent to supporters by HRC:

Massachusetts Attorney General and automatic delegate Martha Coakley announced her support for Hillary Clinton today. The Massachusetts State Democratic Committee elected her one of its automatic delegates to the Democratic National Convention on May 10. Attorney General Coakley's statement follows below:

"I am determined to see a successful Democratic campaign for President in November. I believe that the Democratic primary has demonstrated to the American people that there are two able and hard working candidates, either of whom can win the presidency. Either will be a huge improvement for America over what the Republicans have offered for the last eight years and what they offer now for the next four. I will support whoever is the nominee of the party.

"However, as one of two unpledged delegates elected by the Massachusetts State Committee, I have determined to cast my vote for Hillary Clinton. Running for office under any circumstances is arduous and stressful; it is at times exhilarating and at times exhausting. It tests the issues, the families and supporters, and the very core of the candidate.  Running for President of the United States is all of that many times over.

"Regardless of the outcome of the  primary, Mrs. Clinton's energy, stamina, and resolve have changed the course of history  for  women seeking office, including the presidency, and I dare say, have changed the course of history of Presidential politics in the United States. It is for these reasons that I will vote for Hillary Clinton in August at the Nominating

This is really exciting news given that Martha Coakley is well respected in the state and won a landslide victory in 2006. She is known as a tough but fair prosecutor. She is also a favorite to eventually sit in the Governor's seat.

Really good news for HRC today!!




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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 1)

Feel the Hillmentum!


I just flipped off President George, I'm going to Disneyland
by alvernon on Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:48:09 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 1)

Do you think you could spell his name correctly? Thanks.
Barack Obama is my President
by Jeter on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:13:13 PM EST
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love her quote... (2.00 / 1)

"Regardless of the outcome of the  primary, Mrs. Clinton's energy, stamina, and resolve have changed the course of history  for  women seeking office, including the presidency, and I dare say, have changed the course of history of Presidential politics in the United States. It is for these reasons that I will vote for Hillary Clinton in August at the Nominating"

incredibly brave!


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:49:46 PM EST

Re: love her quote... (2.00 / 1)

I really, really wish I would never see "Mrs. Clinton" again.  Her title is "Senator Clinton."  Mrs. Clinton is as mundane and passively disrespectful as it would be to call her husband Mr. Clinton (he is President Clinton or Mr. President to you!).

Not that this superdelegate or CG means to disrespect Senator Clinton, I just hope people will take an effort to use her earned title.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:57:49 PM EST
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Re: love her quote... (2.00 / 1)

fair enough - i guess i am just used to so many doing it, that i now miss it when it crops up.


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:07:07 PM EST
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Re: love her quote... (2.00 / 2)

No worries, I'm kind of a stickler and I missed it the first couple times too.

Anyway I'm the sort of person who will use the term "Senator McCain" and avoid things like "John W. McSameBush" and "Grandpa" too.  So take my complaints with a grain of salt.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:13:29 PM EST
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Re: love her quote... (none / 0)

It takes a lot of courage to say "no matter what the outcome."

Sort of implies that even Hillary's most ardent supporters no longer expect her to win, doesn't it.


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:07:45 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 1)

I agree completely with AG Coakley's comments.  Hillary has run an epic campaign and, no matter the outcome, deserves the utmost respect and consideration.

Salute!


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:53:33 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (1.00 / 3)

What's an "automatic delegate?" Oh wait, I looked it up and came across this interesting web site that seems to be very Clinton skewed...oh wait, it is a Clinton site pretending to be "informational."

http://www.delegatehub.com/

I will not have a dishonest person like Clinton be my President. Sorry. I am fed up with Bush lying to me every day. I don't want it again.

Sad and I am angry to see a Democrat behaving like this.


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:02:58 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 2)

I never understood the term "automatic" delegate.  "Autonomous" maybe, but "automatic" just doesn't have the same meaning.

The real term for them is "unpledged party leader and elected official (PLEO) delegates" and "unpledged add-on delegates."

It's possibly referring to the fact that all DNC members, Democratic governors, and Democratic congresspeople are "automatically" given PLEO delegate status...  But that discounts unpledged add-on delegates, who are also included in the informal term "superdelegates."


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:07:56 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

Ironically, the superdelegate referred to in this diary is an unpledged add-on delegate, not a PLEO (or "automatic") delegate.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:10:19 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

I was going to say, but I didn't want to be a know-it-all.  It's an add-on; they're technically free to vote for whomever they want but rarely do.

The last non-addon super Hillary Clinton won was May 9th - Ciro Rodriguez from Texas.  I wish there was code to make this invisible to non-Obama supporters but there isn't.


We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.
by Jess81 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:15:51 PM EST
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There are seven kinds of delgates in the rules. (none / 0)

Anybody who supports Obama name them?


by itsadryheat on Wed May 21, 2008 at 02:18:58 AM EST
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If you insist... (none / 0)


  • District-level pledged delegates
  • Pledged at-large delegates
  • Pledged PLEO delegates
  • Unpledged PLEO delegates
  • Pledged add-on delegates
  • Unpledged add-on delegates
  • Alternate delegates

But considering how surgical Obama's been about the delegate count, it might be Clinton's campaign that needs to brush up on how delegates are apportioned.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Wed May 21, 2008 at 09:46:52 AM EST
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Great you found it! . Now tell Obama (none / 0)


by itsadryheat on Mon May 26, 2008 at 02:07:48 AM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 4)

Oh dear, Hillary has another website? The horror! I have a feeling your sadness and anger are just a product of your faux outrage. I'm sure you'll get over it quickly.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:10:00 PM EST
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Oh, please! (none / 0)


by Thaddeus on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:25:48 PM EST
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Impressive (2.00 / 2)

Really. That will help keep Obama's lead to less than 200.


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:04:05 PM EST

OMG the supers are landsliding (2.00 / 2)

toward Hillary!

This is so over.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:07:32 PM EST
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Re: Impressive (2.00 / 1)

And this type comment helps the cause of unity? How?


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:20:17 PM EST
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Re: Impressive (none / 0)

oh it doesn't. but it makes some people feel cool to throw it in others faces.


by alyssa chaos on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:22:24 PM EST
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Re: Impressive (none / 0)

Yes, it is rather sad.


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:31:50 PM EST
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Re: Impressive (none / 0)

Yeah, you think they'd do the mature thing and threaten to leave the Democratic party because their candidate didn't win.


by Rumproast on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:35:15 PM EST
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Re: Impressive (none / 0)

its called being the bigger person. i dont think many even understand the whole premise behind it, rumproast.


by alyssa chaos on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:39:33 PM EST
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Re: Impressive (none / 0)

Like it's mature, to use that on all Clinton supporters. Go away troll.


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Tue May 20, 2008 at 06:11:36 PM EST
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The sooner you guys admit this is over the better (none / 0)

The primary obstacle to party unity is Hillary Clinton and her determination to go out in a blaze of glory.

If you don't have a reasonable chance of winning then it is time to drop out and help the one who does. That's how parties win elections.


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:35:13 PM EST
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fair point (2.00 / 1)

That's a fair point, but unity is a two way street. It's primarily up to the winner to provide the leadership to unite the effort and the party.


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Tue May 20, 2008 at 06:13:18 PM EST
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Re: fair point (1.00 / 1)

No it is primarily up to the looser, in this case Hillary Clinton to bow out gracefully.

That's what happens in a unified party.

Hillary is building her own kingdom not building the party.


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 06:22:44 PM EST
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Re: fair point (none / 0)

Take your blinders off and put your hatred away, it doesn't help the party, or your candidate. The plain fact is that it is the winner that must show the leadership to unite the party. If he can't his opponent in the GE is going to ask how he will be able to unite the country when he can't unite his own party. And, according to you, what is he going to do, whine about someone not dropping out in a timely fashion. I don't think so.


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:23:11 PM EST
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Re: fair point (none / 0)

Hillary can not win this thing, you know, I know, anyone who can make a spread sheet knows it.

When losers, for example Hillary hang on to the bitter end then they create division in the party.

That view is not based on "hatred" but reason.

If you can tell me how Hillary can expect to win this thing in a reasonable manner, I will be happy to retract everything I have said.

One more thing, don't give me that Hillary has the most popular votes crap. You know as well as I that the only way she can make that claim is by ignoring the votes represented in the caucus states and counting MI at face value when her name was the only name on the ballot after Hillary had declared that the primary wouldn't count and after she promised the party to take her name off of the ballot.


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 11:04:22 PM EST
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Re: fair point (none / 0)

Don't try to put words in my mouth, so you can ignore what I was trying to say. I was never talking about Hillary. I was talking about the lack of unity in the party. You demean your own candiddate when you don't think he can provide the leadership to bring unity to the party. Actually I think that you are likely a troll.


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:17:30 AM EST
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Not a troll (none / 0)

Edwards dropped out when he couldn't win.
Richardson dropped out when he couldn't win.
Biden dropped out when he couldn't win.
Gravel stayed in when he couldn't win.
Hillary stayed in when she couldn't win.

Either Hillary is going to concede now or she is going to concede later.

The sooner she concedes, and it is her duty to concede, the sooner the party unites and we start fighting McCain instead of each other.


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Wed May 21, 2008 at 07:50:41 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (1.00 / 2)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/12 /superdelegate-replaced-wi_n_86257.html

Embarrassing...


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:07:02 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

technically you aren't addidng any dialogue and hijacking the thread.


by alyssa chaos on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:21:00 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 1)

This is old news that her camp changed the name.  And your comment is in bad form.  These kinds of comments are fine on an anti-Obama diary, but when it's just being mostly positive about Clinton, let them have their jubilation unfettered with crappy comments.


by The Distillery on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:52:25 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

Even statements like yours will be seen as presumptuous by some.  We can't win.

At any rate, the phrase "automatic delegate" always reminds me of "homicide bombers" or "weapons of mass destruction program related activities".


We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.
by Jess81 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:19:47 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

Or "freedom fries"?


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:33:04 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

Sorry, I tried to make it as friendly as possible.  I even changed the word unadulterated to unfettered because I already saw the HR's.  I just think when there's a pro-Hillary diary with nothing about losing because of sexism or some Obama finger, we should try to be supportive, or abstain from comments altogether.


by The Distillery on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:43:30 AM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 1)

Really?  Should we write YIPEE diaries every time Obama scores another Super?  The system would crash.


by rf7777 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:09:10 PM EST

Wow....this must be her first endorsement in...... (none / 0)

weeks? Months even?


by Deano963 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:13:19 PM EST

not to be bitter and snarky (none / 0)

but isn't it the position of the HRC campaign that pledges of support from superdelegates don't matter b/c they don't actually vote until the convention?

Or is this just another example of the HRC camp dismissing winning and support for Obama while trumpeting the same kind of support when it comes down for HRC?


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:18:25 PM EST

Re: not to be bitter and snarky (none / 0)

Is it?

If that becomes the official position of her campaign, then the Democratic party is screwed.


We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.
by Jess81 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:21:22 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

congrats.

pay no heed to the 'nay sayers' they are mad because you are happy and they just dont like it when the 'opposing team' is happy in the face of adversion.

[to nay sayers: grow up.]


by alyssa chaos on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:19:36 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

This is good news and more good news will come tonight from KY and OR. Slow and steady wins the race and we know that Hillary is a winner. Go Hill!


by grlpatriot on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:20:18 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

What a comforting thought.


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:52:12 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

After Obama goes over big in OR...
and Clinton goes over real huge in KY...
Who will cue the most SD's?
We know Obama has them lined up and dates when they will announce. He will probably get at least 10 tomorrow.
If Clinton has some, tomorrow should be the day she brings them out.
"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:21:16 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

Kudos to the Clinton camp.  Good news is good news.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:22:59 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

It's hard to believe some of the bitter comments in this thread, purporting to come from Obama supporters. So what if Hillary has another delegate. How does it hurt you?  What exactly is your problem? Eventually the winner of the nomination, which will be Obama, will have all the delegates. They always ask for the choice to be unanimous at the convention. Wouldn't it be better if it happened in true unity.

Are you so petty that you can't even allow the other side to enjoy the addition of one more delegate, which does nothing to hurt you or your candidate?

Wouldn't it be better to just congratulate them, and move on in the cause of unity, so we can get on with the business of electing democrats in November.

I just hope the bitter comments, on this diary, are coming from trolls, who have a mission to see us divided, and not from the real supporters of Barack Obama


The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
by pollbuster on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:30:04 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 1)


Martha Coakley is one of the next Governors or Senators of the state.  And she's recognized that Hillary is a great bet for '12 if '08 doesn't work out.  Very smart.

It would be sort of amusing if she, a Hillary supporter, succeeds Deval Patrick as governor.  Patrick is an Obama supporter who was elected as a fresh face, new politics and all, and rather than transformation has found himself stuck dealing almost exclusively with fiscal and managerial messes, the larger economic downturn, and a legislature that has taken control.  He's started taking vacations and taken a lot of time to write and publish a book.  Gee...


by killjoy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:40:27 PM EST

Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

You're describing Bush.  And Bill Clinton.  And Elliot Spitzer.  And just about every person who runs an outsider campaign.

The real reason people love to compare Deval Patrick and Barack Obama is that they're both black.

Which reminds me - someone pointed to Washington State as having a "reverse Deval Patrick" effect; as Washington's two Senators and Governor are all women, voting for a woman for President is no big deal.  So no one did.


We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.
by Jess81 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:25:12 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)

The only way Clinton could win in 2012 is if Obama should lose to McCain or have a failed presidency and not even get renominated. Is that what you are hoping for?


We shall overcome. Yes we can.
by Sam Wise Gingy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 06:25:32 PM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (none / 0)


If Clinton isn't nominated, that's what I expect of Obama.  He is politically such a repeat of Jimmy Carter.
by killjoy on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:19:28 AM EST
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Re: HRC gets a Superdelegate from Mass.! (2.00 / 1)

I have the highest respect for my attorney general Martha Coakley.  She makes me extremely pleased and proud today.  

I can see her as our next Governor or Senator.  She will have my love and support for the rest of my life.

Thank you, Martha Coakley!  :)


by Hurdy Gurdy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 05:08:45 PM EST

Congrats (none / 0)

to the Clinton camp on this good news.  Every super that declares is a good thing regardless for which side.  Let's get these people to get on the record...


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:21:08 PM EST


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