Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student?

by TexasMacaca, Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:43:37 AM EST

I am from the India sub-continent. I am puzzled and curious as to why Barack Obama visited Karachi (Pakistan) and Hyderabad (India) as a young man.

Here is the news article.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/ente rtainment/obama-visited-pakistan-as-a-co llege-student_10035794.html

When you are young, you are trying to know who you are and you do different things to define your identity. For Obama it is even more profound as he is from mixed race with a muslim father and it is only natural to know who he is and purpose of his life.

Let me set the stage for you. I want to explain to you what I know about Karachi (Pakistan) and Hyderabad (India) and why young muslim students used to visit these 2 cities in 70's & 80's.

Knowing Karachi (Pakistan) and Hyderabad (India), they are no tropical Islands or paradises. As most of you know Pakistan was in a turmoil during 70's & 80's because of dictatorship and afghanistan war. I know lot more about Hyderabad in India. It has a significant muslim population and there is lot of religious tension and unease in the same time period 70's & 80's.

Lot of young muslim students trying to define their identity often visited troubled areas in Pakistan (like Karachi) and muslim majority areas in India (like Hyderabad). Both these cities were a hot bed of religious strife and extremism.

I want to be very clear. My intent is NOT to suggest any thing here that Obama did any thing bad in his visit of these 2 cities. I am curious as to why he visited these 2 strife ridden cities in 80's. I am surprised that media is not going after or checking out this visit to see what he did.

I want to support him but I want to make sure that we know ALL about him and there are NO SURPRISES.


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Ok (2.00 / 3)

Racist name and racist diary.

hmmm how quick to ban.

And yes, racism against Arabs is still racism.


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by GeorgeP922 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:45:37 AM EST

Re: Ok (none / 0)

How is it "racist" to ask "Why did Obama visist Pakistan"?  Enough with the hypersensitivity imo.

I'm sure there is a pretty mundane answer.


by bobbank on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:48:53 AM EST
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Re: Ok (2.00 / 3)

yeah its IN the article they linked, so you gotta wonder why post a question when you should already know the answer,

unless the diarist didn't read the article.


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:50:38 AM EST
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Re: Ok (2.00 / 3)

implied rascism

its Obvious this Dairist thinks that if you go to pakistan it should raise red flags
and the the hell does his father being muslim have to do with it ?  I mean you people make me sick !! you try to paint him as  muslim that did not stick  so you try to paint him as a black  radical christian, that did not work I can't wait until you bigots try to paint Obama as a orthodox jew....prejudice is alive and well in america  and its not just white people  it goes both ways  


PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability
by wellinformed on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:56:06 AM EST
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Re: Ok (none / 0)

No no, Jews are perfect, remember?  That's why Israel can do anything they want.


by ProgressiveDL on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:56:55 AM EST
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Re: Ok (2.00 / 1)

Neither Pakistan nor India are Arab countries. What does this diary have to do with Arabs?


by markjay on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:13:01 AM EST
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Ask the diarist: (1.66 / 3)

"For Obama it is even more profound as he is from mixed race with a muslim father"

Yeah, just sneak in a quick muslim reminder for everyone.

Racist BS.


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:28:05 AM EST
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Pakistan is a primarily Muslim country.. (none / 0)

however, Obama's father was Kenyan, (many of Obama's half-siblings still live in Kenya, one lives in China) and he grew up in Hawaii (where his sister lives) and in Indonesia. (where he went to school available at the time)


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Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%
by architek on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:41:12 PM EST
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He was registered as Muslim in Indonesian schools (none / 0)

but this may be because his mother's husband there - not his father, was Muslim. At least this si what I have heard. I have heard conflicting information as to if he was devoutly Muslim growing up.

Barack Obama, senior, was Muslim, though, and he practiced polygamy. (But didn't tell his second wife, Obama's mother, that he was married with two children in Kenya, still married, when he came to the US to go to Harvard, and when he married Obama's mom, which is what caused their divorce.)


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%
by architek on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:47:45 PM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 4)

really because if you really wanted to know why not read your own article

In 1981, Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia and then travelled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there.

sounds to me he and his friend went to visit their families.

hmmm to bad the article you linked didn't put this is big enough font for you I guess?


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:48:24 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 1)

And there is the mundane answer.

Now we can all leave the diary, as the question has been answered. :P


by bobbank on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:49:53 AM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 3)

Right, except the diarist "expressed their concern" and "asked a question" when the article they linked to contained a mundane answer.

Please, explain to me what conclusion a reasonable person should draw from a diary like this Bob.  It couldn't be that the diarist is trying to imply something nefarious about Obama that they know isn't true, could it?  Nah, we've never seen something like that online or -- I would add -- on this site.  


by HSTruman on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:54:57 AM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 1)

yup while once again planting the seed of "is he a secret muslim terrorist agent".  That's the equivilent of saying, "If Hillary wins, will they prohibit hiring female interns in the First Husband's office".  


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:08:50 PM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 3)

Why is there no way to troll-rate diaries on this site?


by emptythreatsfarm on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:48:58 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 3)

oh. p.s. if you have to SAY my intention is not to do something.

its probably because you know thats EXACTLY what you are doing.

its kinda like saying I don't mean to be rude, or I don't wanna sound racist.

always notice how whatever they say following that, IS rude or IS racist? hmmmmm


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:49:49 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 7)

"I want to be very clear. My intent is NOT to suggest any thing here that Obama did any thing bad in his visit of these 2 cities."

I. Don't. Believe. You.


by niksder on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:50:10 AM EST

I think he visited Hyderabad... (2.00 / 1)

... because he's a secret Hindu Nationalist...

As a Texas Macaca myself, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.


by Ramo on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:52:49 AM EST

Re: I think he visited Hyderabad... (2.00 / 1)

Is it common for Asians to happily refer to themselves as macaca.

I am greek and we use Malaka as a curse and term of endearment(in a weird greek way)  but the word has zero racial conotations.

Is Macaca in Asian culture a derogatory term?

Also, do untraveled Americans,  Asia includes the middle east, india pakistan etc when discussed outside of our country.  so dont get confused.


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by GeorgeP922 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:56:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I think he visited Hyderabad... (none / 0)

you wonder if macaca means jerk off?  Me too , what does it mean?  so you think Malaki's name is funny too.  


Hillary - alternative energy
by anna shane on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:06:51 AM EST
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Macaca is a new term... (none / 0)

post G Allen.  The commonly accepted term is Desi, or ABCD


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by SevenStrings on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:07:35 AM EST
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Re: I think he visited Hyderabad... (2.00 / 1)

Macaca doesn't mean anything in particular in most Asian cultures (George Allen may have gotten it from his mom's stint in North Africa).  It's associated with Asia (in particular, South Asia) because Allen referred to someone of South Asian descent as one.  I can't speak for anyone else, but I use the word to poke fun at the political process.


by Ramo on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:14:21 AM EST
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Re: I think he visited Hyderabad... (2.00 / 1)

obviously he is Sikh, just look at his hair!


"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan
by pinche tejano on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:57:34 AM EST
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maybe (none / 0)

maybe this is Sidney Blumenthal's secret alias.

It sound like one of his TP's

Disgusting,

This diary is racist/xenophobic because it insinuates there is something sinister with visiting a country with much history.


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by GeorgeP922 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 10:53:00 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (1.00 / 2)

Well, why did Obama visit Pakistan?  Can he not answer that question?  or is that off limits


by karajan72 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:00:31 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 1)

you didn't even read the comments in this diary before you posted that did you?


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:03:51 AM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (1.00 / 1)

Its offlimits to ask.

We are going to go happily down the trail, skipping and jumping through the pretty flowers with obama assuming the best.

We will leave it to the rethugs to find out why he did it.

Sometime, around say, October.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:21:46 AM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 1)

If you had read the link or the comments, you would have found out the incredibly benign reason he went there.

And, again, just because it's something the Republicans would do does not make it a good idea.


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:25:50 AM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (none / 0)

I read them.  I know this story already, I wrote a diary about it some weeks ago.

He also claimed that we were taking Wright out of context (we weren't).  He also claimed that he could no more disown Wright than he could his  grandmother (he has since disowned Wright).

You guys seem to not care if we win the election, you just want to win the primary.

i want to win the election.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:32:08 PM EST
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Just come out and say it (2.00 / 2)

You think Obama might be a secret, undercover Muslim Manchurian candidate.

Quit playing coy.


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:29:02 AM EST
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Re: Just come out and say it (2.00 / 0)

You mean he's not?  You mean this whole Jeremiah Wright thing isn't a big ruse to cover the fact that he was raised in the most militant madras's in the world?  That he wants all Christian babies to burn in hell with the infidels?  That he wants to replace the Presidential Physical Fitness Program with the Al-Qaeda Training tapes we see all the time?  OMG - if we elect him, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

oh wait, you mean this racist bullshit diary wasn't a snark?


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:13:09 PM EST
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Re: Just come out and say it (none / 0)

Dont care if he's a muslim.  I care if he's a liar.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:33:23 PM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 0)

Disgusting.


by Same As It Ever Was on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:03:05 AM EST

Taunting and Race Baiting (none / 0)

There is no genuine inquiry, just provocation for his own racist angry pleasure.  


by optimusprime on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:42:24 AM EST
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Re: Taunting and Race Baiting (2.00 / 0)

This idiot reminds of that douchebag republican congressman that went on Olberman to talk about the Flag Pin non-sense.  He said (and I'm paraphrasing) that the GOP makes a big deal out of it because the Democrats fall for the bullshit and get all bent out of shape about it.  They (the GOP) know its bullshit, but it's the same thing as poking your brother or sister repeatedly - it's meant to get a rise out of you.  Same with this asshat diary...


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:15:41 PM EST
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You give this place a bad name. (2.00 / 0)


by notme54 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:05:24 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 0)

"My intent is NOT to suggest any thing here that Obama did any thing bad in his visit of these 2 cities."

So, exactly what is your intention by asking this question? lol


by ETHIOLIB on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:07:14 AM EST

Fox News Style Diary (2.00 / 1)

I love it!  Throw in the supposedly innocuous question mark and feel free to say whatever you want.

"Obama: Secret Terrorist?"

"Obama: Training at Muslim Terror Schools in Pakistan?"

"TexasMacaca: Too Stupid to Read His Own Links?"


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:16:59 AM EST

concern trolling galore (2.00 / 1)

want to support him but I want to make sure that we know ALL about him and there are NO SURPRISES.

-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:17:12 AM EST

HOLY CRAP (2.00 / 0)

I mean, this diary is BS, racist and rumor-mongering of the worst kind.

Yet, as of this moment, 8 out of 16 poll respondents are "curious" to know about BO's trip to Pakistan.

WTF?  

Seriously, what is with some of you?


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:21:26 AM EST

45% of you (2.00 / 0)

WTF?


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:33:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Those voting "YES" (2.00 / 1)

should take a long look in the mirror about the kind of person they are.


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:37:37 AM EST
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Re: Those voting "YES" (none / 0)

After I saw that you were so agitated over this that you responded twice to your own post, I voted yes just to yank your chain a little more.

But then when I thought about it, I actually am kinda curious to know about it.  Maybe I should read his book.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:42:01 AM EST
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Re: Those voting "YES" (2.00 / 2)

It's awesome you find racism so amusing.


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:44:42 AM EST
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Re: Those voting "YES" (none / 0)

Sometimes I find absurd accusations of racism amusing, I guess.

It's racist to say I'm curious about Obama's trip to Pakistan?  Wow!


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:51:09 AM EST
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Re: Those voting "YES" (2.00 / 1)

You know, it sort of is when you imply in the diary that he went to connect with muslim extremists, even though the article linked in the diary explains the actualy reason.  

But hey, different strokes for different folks.  


by HSTruman on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:57:42 AM EST
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Re: Those voting "YES" (none / 0)

That seems to be where the diarist is taking this, but "racist" is not some catch-all term for worthless diaries.

I assume it goes without saying that when I say I would be curious to hear more about this trip, I personally do not mean it in a bad way.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:05:10 PM EST
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Re: Those voting "YES" (2.00 / 0)

When you say it, it certainly goes without saying.  

But I don't think referring to this diarist as engaging in borderline racist concern trolling is out of bounds at all.  


by HSTruman on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:33:06 PM EST
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racist diaries, lmao. (none / 0)

Heh, people calling this 'racism' obviously never had to live with actual racism, or they wouldn't be so casually tossing the term around.

Obamaton simply employ the race card everytime Obama is challenged.  

This is their new 'post-racial' world.

No thanks, I think we can do without.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:35:44 PM EST
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Re: racist diaries, lmao. (none / 0)

So implying that Obama went to Pakistan out of some sort of sympathy for muslim extremists isn't racist?  Interseting.  It certainly begs the question what you would consider racist.  Other than reverse racism, of course, which I know you find offensive.  


by HSTruman on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:50:48 PM EST
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Disgusting (2.00 / 0)

If you think this is an "absurd accusation of racism", then that's pretty disgusting.


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:04:44 PM EST
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Re: Disgusting (none / 0)

So now I'm both racist and disgusting.  Should I go for the trifecta?

If the racism is so obvious, maybe you could explain it to me.  Because I don't see where this particular insinuation has anything to do with Obama's race.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri May 02, 2008 at 02:54:25 PM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 2)

This diary reminds me of the attempt to use Bill Clinton's student trip to Moscow against him in 1992.

The Clintons (and some of her supporters) seem to think  anything that was done to them by Republicans is fair game to be done against Obama.

Meanwhile, they promise their campaign against McCain would be a lovefest.


Hillary: "Her dishonesty is actually honest." -- yellowdem1129
by Kobi on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:25:26 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 3)

This guy just posted the same post on TPM Cafe under the name "Texas Voice" - first post ever there for this individual.

Yes, this seems like another classic case of Blumenthalism in action: pushing already-debunked right wing anti-Obama BS out from the right wing blogs to progressive blogs, presenting itself as from an Obama supporter engaging in concern troll hand-wringing.


by Dan Kervick on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:28:38 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 2)

You know TexasMacaca, the last shred of respect I had for you and your diaries just went down the drain.  It's appalling to see how you work had devolved into drivel worthy of Michelle Maklin and her ilk. There are real issues and problems to question and discuss and this is what you deem important?!?!? You are a real flipping joke!


by multilee on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:33:22 AM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 2)

The true worth of a troll is judged by their ability to dupe you into a false sense of respect


John McCain wants to make abortion illegal
by Lost Thought on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:53:25 AM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (none / 0)

True....the shred of respect was for posting views opposite from my own beliefs.  But this crap....all I can do is shake my head at the utter uselessness of it all.  Damn I can't wait for this primary to be over already!


by multilee on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:37:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (none / 0)

"""Michelle Maklin and her ilk"""

What ilk?

Asian Americans?

You racist.

...

See  how that works?  Nifty!


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:36:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (none / 0)

This is meant as snark right???


by multilee on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:38:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (none / 0)

That comment about it being snark is really snark, right?


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:45:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (none / 0)

This diary is pretty worthless but the over-the-top comments make it all worthwhile.  Some of these commentors act like the diarist just killed their dog.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:38:18 AM EST

Oh yea, (2.00 / 2)

reacting strongly to racism is so uncool.


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 11:42:34 AM EST
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Re: Oh yea, (none / 0)

This is not racism.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:37:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Yes it is (2.00 / 0)

It very clearly is.


by Slim Tyranny on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:06:01 PM EST
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Re: Yes it is (2.00 / 0)

It's not racism, it's religious bigotry (which is just as bad) and moreover, it's just stupid and irrelevant. I won't dignify this garbage diary with my comments for a moment more.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:51:49 PM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (none / 0)

I'd like to know more of the details. Pakistan is an odd place to go for "spring break"


by nikkid on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:10:48 PM EST

Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 1)

He should have gone to Florida, caught a few STDs and done some drugs.

Yeah, that's normal.


by grass on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:20:31 PM EST
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Re: Why did Obama visit Pakistan as a student? (2.00 / 0)

Actually, I'm kind of wondering why the MyDD "management" team hasn't deleted this piece of crap diary...if this was a Hillary hit job diary it would have been gone in a nano-second.


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:29:44 PM EST

Well, (2.00 / 1)

It could be that they really wonder what he might have been doing there.
I mean, the place is filled with  Muslims, terrorists and opium smugglers. There aren't any people in Pakistan who don't fall into one of those groups, and I read that more than 80% of Pakistanis fall into all three. I think we need to find out why Barack Obama would go to a country in which its citizens have learned to distill evil to purest and most concentrated form. And that's just what Pakistanis do for fun. You don't want to know what they do at work.
If Obama went there, you know it was to learn how to be a Manchurian candidate, which is kind of ironic, since Manchuria is in China, but then I guess he's just trying to confuse us. Nobody ever said Obama isn't crafty...
ооо
by Mumphrey on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:43:33 PM EST
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Re: Well, (2.00 / 1)

hmm I wonder what his trigger is?  probably something no one would ever expect, like Kittens or signing God Bless America...those clever terrorists.


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:58:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You know... (none / 0)

I'm a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant guy and do you know that after college I went and lived in Honduras for 2 years!!!!
Why would I do that? It's not like Honduras is, I don't know, Nassau or Bermuda, where normal pasty white folk like me go when they want to have an "exotic" vacation that is nonetheless not scary.
Could it be because I was really trying to become a communist revolutionary like Che Guevara? Could it be because I wanted to break into the drug running business?
I guess it could never have been that I was just a young guy, curious about the world, and I had a chance to go somewhere I'd never been and live life in a new way, and that that would be a great adventure and maybe I'd learn something.
No, I must have had some evil, secret, underhanded reason for doing that. Why don't you try to find out what it was? If you can't, you could always make something up, or at least hint at suspicious motives.
I think responsible people would really like to know why I did that.
ооо
by Mumphrey on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:34:45 PM EST

Re: You know... (none / 0)

If you were running for president I might ask why you lived in Honduras.

If you got all huffy and offended and started calling me a racist, then I would REALLy want to know why you lived there.


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:39:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You know... (none / 0)

Come on, Honduras is a third world country filled with people who aren't white. If you don't want to know what I was doing there just on general principals, then I can't respect you as a serious Clinton supporter.
I don't doubt that I'm over the line here, but after the shit I've seen here over the lasat 4 days, I don't give a shit any more.
ооо
by Mumphrey on Fri May 02, 2008 at 12:46:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Um, troll? (2.00 / 0)

Please return to the bridge you're supposed to be under, and take this shitty diary with you.


No Way. No How. No McCain.
by Denny Crane on Fri May 02, 2008 at 01:49:49 PM EST


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