Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update]

by TexasDarlin, Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:40:02 AM EST

Calling all Hillary Supporters!

Two new polls for Oregon show a closer race than Obama expected, one within 4 points, and the other 5.

American Research Group (ARG) surveyed approximately 600 likely voters May 14-16 and found:

Obama 50
Clinton 45
Undecided 5

Suffolk surveyed approximately 600 likely voters on May 17-18 and found:

Obama 45
Clinton 41
Undec. or refused to respond: 14

ALL HANDS ON DECK
To help Hillary get out the remaining votes, click on the phone:

UPDATE 5/19/08 8:54 AM PST: In response to a comment -- Yes, over 75% have already mailed their ballots in but there will be a surge of people voting today and tomorrow. SO GOTV!




Tags: oregon, gotv, hillary clinton, polls, primary (all tags)

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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 21)

Let's GET OUT THE VOTE, People!


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:41:19 AM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 11)

Absolutely, get out the vote for all sides- as Tex knows, this only benefits the entire party in November, to have this sort of infrastructure in place!

Kudos to you, Tex. I know you're a pro-Clinton diarist, but for this show of bipartisanship and support for Obama as the eventual nominee, you deserve a lot of credit.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:43:24 AM EST
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You're smart enough to know what she meant.  Knock it off.

GREAT JOB TEX!  REC'D!!!!


Donate to Hillary Now!
by alegre on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:47:34 AM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 1)

I know; didn't I pick up on it? Didn't she, just as you did, pledge to support the nominee?


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:48:35 AM EST
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You'll be glad to hear that Barack has awoken, and he's taken it back that he'll announce his victory Tuesday. He also made a plea to lay off his wife, so he's maybe getting some empathy too.  If he's the nom and Michelle is given the same treatment Hillary was given when Bill was running, he'll get a more realistic idea who made up all her baggage and how much was 'deserved,' that he's been so quick to exploit to the glee of some of his followers.  


just say it: Medicare for All
by anna shane on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:14:12 PM EST
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When has Obama exploited that "baggage"? Seems to me he's been pretty careful not to mention it. I think that's one of the reasons so many Clinton supporters have that "she's been vetted" fantasy.


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:29:58 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 8)

he started out calling her a flawed candidate and citing her high negatives. That was his original reason for us to vote for him, he's always been negative, but so many of his supporters agree that her negatives are her fault and fair game, none of you got it.  Her supporters got it, and we were vocal, from the beginning.  


just say it: Medicare for All
by anna shane on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:55:52 PM EST
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She is a flawed candidate with high negatives.

Her highest negative in my book is her vote for Bush's war and her repeated assertions of a Liebermanish foreign policy.

Is all that Obama's fault? Or mine? Is HRC responsible for nothing?


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:02:01 PM EST
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Hillary Clinton is not responsible for this travesty. The nomination was hers. It was taken from her. Her destiny has been thwarted!!!!!!


by Terrance Manley on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:08:06 PM EST
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Terence, this is either brilliant or hopelessly myopic.

I'm going with brilliant and giving you mojo...


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:16:08 PM EST
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I'm going with brilliant


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:25:34 PM EST
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HELP ME OBI WAN KENOBI-YOU'RE MY ONLY HOPE!!


I'm riding the Low Road Express. Join me at www.lowroadexpress.com
by LtWorf on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:12:33 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 1)

Taken?


by niksder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:56:22 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

OMG!  Nobody told her people even get to vote in Hillaryland and to be clear in states they have BOTH competed in Obama has more votes.  
How Hillary handles this will seal her political future and knocking off this "the system worked for him but the people really wanted me" line would really help the unity thing we're going to need from her.  
by affratboy22 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 06:52:45 PM EST
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And knocking off the sardonicism and clumsy "wit" might help the unity thing, as you call it.

Gee, you need Hillary?  About time you said so.


by Montague on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:43:39 PM EST
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Want to see high negatives? (none / 0)

Check your candidate's by the end of October.


by lombard on Mon May 19, 2008 at 07:06:41 PM EST
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Re: Want to see high negatives? (none / 0)

I'll take potential, hypothetical negatives over, uh, actual ones.

Any day.

"Boy, you'll wish you would have bought this crappy car when your engine blows out in five years"


UNITY!
by The Great Gatsby on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:35:20 PM EST
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She and none of the Democrats are responsible for this war.  This is Bush's war.  He went to war after the inspectors were back in the Country.

As far as a Lieberman foreign policy - this is a joke right?  I don't believe Lieberman is arguing for withdrawal of our troops under any scenario like Clinton does because it is up to the Iraqis to run their country.  I don't think that she has endorsed McCain.  I don't think that she will use preemptive strikes, in fact, she has outlined an opposing theory to that NeoCon idea, deterrence and extending the umbrella in the ME.

Whilst your candidate doesn't even think that Iran is a threat to our interests.  Naivety does not stop wars - in fact, others exploit it and wage wars.  For the record, I was one of the minority of Americans that was against invading Iraq.  The polls were overwhelmingly for the invasion and the media that is in the tank selling us Obama, sold the war.


by anya109 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:24:46 PM EST
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Wrong... (2.00 / 2)

These are the only Democratic senators not responsible for this war -->
Daniel Akaka (D-HI)
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Robert Byrd (D-WV)  
Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Jon Corzine (D-NJ)
Mark Dayton (D-MN)
Richard Durbin (D-IL)
Russell Feingold (D-WI)
Robert Graham (D-FL)
Daniel Inouye (D-HI)  
Edward Kennedy (D-MA)
Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Paul Sarbanes (D-MD)
Debbie Stabenow (D-MI)
Paul Wellstone (D-MN)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)

And you're right, "Naivety does not stop wars" - and by the most generous reading of this vote, Hillary was duped into supporting Bush's war resolution.


by alb on Mon May 19, 2008 at 10:53:55 PM EST
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Re: Wrong... (2.00 / 3)

A-M-E-N!

People forget about these 21 brave and wise Senators. There should be a monument somewhere.

Especially brave for Durbin, Levin, Wellstone, and Reed, who were up for re-election. Way, way brave for Wellstone, who faced a serious challenger. RIP.


by grover738 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:09:26 PM EST
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repeating McCain talking points are we?


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Mon May 19, 2008 at 10:57:09 PM EST
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his supporters agree that her negatives are her fault and fair game, none of you got it.

The Iraq war was her big negative.  There are others, also political, not baggage, but that's the big one.

"I'm all for the delegate battle, and now that Obama's campaign is too, I'm all giddy. It's going to be the supers as kingmaker." J.Armstrong 01/19/08
by obscurant on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:08:37 PM EST
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You are so right!  This is just the beginning of the Obamas' experience of the "Clinton Rules."  Unfortunately, his campaign resorted to those tactics from the outset.  Also, I've thought it creepy all along that Karl Rove has offered so much on air advice to Obama throughout this primary season.


by trixta on Tue May 20, 2008 at 12:47:05 AM EST
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**He did?  How do you know that?  What did he say?
I DID hear Hillary announce today that karl rove says she's the best candidate.  Is that what you meant?
If the choice is between hope and fear, always choose hope. BC
by greylox on Tue May 20, 2008 at 02:53:05 AM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Indeed.


Can't rec or rate -- next username, please!
by neeborMolgula on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:50:49 AM EST
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Why should he knock it off? We are all talking about getting out the vote. Dems voting is good.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:51:09 AM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 4)

Surely you recognize he's being a smartass.  This is a GOTV for Hillary.


by Tolstoy on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:24:02 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 3)

I'm looking for the silver lining. Record numbers of democrats voting in the primaries is a good sign for Obama's chance to win in the fall.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:42:32 PM EST
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Its like to some people that we're not all Democrats.  Jeez.  We're on the same team here guys.

Anyway, getting people involved in the political process can only be a good thing.


by Lit Up on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:13:27 PM EST
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GOTV and our Party (2.00 / 3)

That's a big difference...Some Hillary supporters back GOTV because it benefits her, Most Obama supporters rally behind GOTV because it strengthens our party.....


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:38:46 PM EST
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Re: GOTV and our Party (2.00 / 1)

LOL!  What a crock!  Then why are you Obama supporters against MI and FL?


by anya109 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:26:35 PM EST
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We're not against (none / 0)

any state. We're just in favor of following the rules laid out by the DNC a year ago, and agreed too by all of the campaigns including Hillary's.

Why do Hillary-supporters have such a hard time with standing by promises their candidate made? Why do you want to re-write the rules now?


by Tatan on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:33:11 PM EST
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Re: GOTV and our Party (2.00 / 2)

lol - what utter bs.


by Tolstoy on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:39:19 PM EST
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Re: GOTV and our Party (2.00 / 2)

bullshit.


No way. No how. No McCain. . . . . . If you can ship a job to Bangalore India, you can ship a job to Flint Michigan.
by NJ Liberal on Tue May 20, 2008 at 09:14:29 AM EST
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Not at all!!!

This is a GOTV for the Democratic Party!

Yes she could have! Yes we can!


by french imp on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:02:51 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 3)

are you the official SoCalDarlin interpreter? Maybe you could tell us what she meant by this:

Security clearances and other applications:

It's not clear whether dual citizenship is disqualifying for the presidency. However, the State Department considers it a factor when granting security clearances for access to classified information. A past history of drug use is also relevant
[...]
What were Barack's religious influences before joining Rev. Wright at Trinity?

This topic is treated as taboo; whenever the word "muslim" is used in the same sentence as "barack obama" accusations of flame-throwing are immediately made. But why are these questions off-limits, and will the GOP abide by such polite guidelines?

The important question is NOT whether Obama has any muslim history. Rather, it's whether he's been truthful about his past.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/04 29/mystery-man-obama


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:32:41 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (1.31 / 16)

hey blue, thanks for driving up traffic to my blog.  I love it when you do that.  I'm getting advertiser interest now, thanks to you.

Since you brought up the muslim issue, the Christian Science Monitor (certainly not a freeper mag) just published an interesting story called "Barack Obama -- the Muslim Apostate?"

check it out:  http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0519/p09s0 2-coop.html


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:59:31 PM EST
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You're not troll-rating yourself anymore? I thought that was a sign of moral, if not mental health.

I didn't bring up "the muslim issue", I brought up your race-baiting and paranoia-mongering.

As for traffic on your blog, the more people who see what a twisted, hate-filled, smear-monger you are, the better?


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:09:22 PM EST
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I believe that talking about posters in this way is against the rules (and I know how much you Obama supporters just love those rules, at least when they are good for your candidate).  So, I am TR your comment.  

BTW, did you miss your "leader's" instruction to be nice to Clinton supporters?


by anya109 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:29:29 PM EST
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Very funny post.

If only you'd intended it.


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 10:02:02 PM EST
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Being nice to Hillary supporters is not a problem.  I think we all agree on issues, our disagreement revolves around personalities.  However, being nice to individuals whose life mission appears to be destroying the character of our party's odds on nominee is not part of the deal, I refer not to you but to Texas-not-quite-so-darlin.  I've read some of her stuff, I think it crosses the line, big time!


by Rick in Eugene on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:02:36 PM EST
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Shouldn't you be calling into Sean Hannity's show or something?


by Pragmatic Left on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:11:55 PM EST
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Oh now the Christian Science Monitor is off limits?

Seems like we're running out of news organizations acceptable to Obama.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:17:21 PM EST
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Get off it.  If the vast majority of Clinton supporters on this site have any modicum of decency, your efforts at muslim bating should be categorically rejected and denounced.

Seriously, I get it, you have beef with Obama.  

But what's the point of consistently bringing this up?  What are you trying to imply?  Out with it already!

Now I read the article, and it seems to suggest that propogandists in the radical muslim world could, maybe, potentially pretend that Obama has rejected Islam and use that as a rallying cry to other radicals...  

I have no problem with the CSM -- I actually think it's a pretty good paper.  What I take umbrage at is you're mis-using the article in an offensive way that is beneath the dignity of the Democratic party.


by Pragmatic Left on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:31:08 PM EST
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I can't believe you would post that disgusting hit-piece on a fellow Democrat as proof that it is ok to perpetuate the "Obama is a muslim" smear on your blog.  This is a new low for mydd posters.


by catalysis on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:31:22 PM EST
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Sadly, it's not a new low at all. There are a number of self-recommending deadenders that are only good at cut-and-paste posts and seeing how low they can stoop to make the case against Obama.

Embarrassing.


by Rationalisto on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:14:39 PM EST
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Interesting read, actually (2.00 / 1)

Apparently you failed to read the article. It was not a hit piece in any way, shape or form. It was a very interesting and scholarly perspective, written by a political science professor who is also Muslim, on how the Muslim world would view and react to an Obama presidency. That was not some right wing urban legend email. I wonder if you would be outraged if this came from Professor Juan Cole and Informed Comment, a must read every day? Actually, I would enjoy his perspective on the narrative contained in the article.

Geez, and you guys are supposed to be the uber-educated democrats.


by Newport News Dem on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:26:14 PM EST
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Re: Interesting read, actually (2.00 / 6)

It's an editorial (not "article") that speculates on how Al Qaeda (not the "Muslim world") might (not "would") view and react to (see propagandize) an Obama presidency.

It's about as interesting as most speculation on Islam that comes out of the Heritage Foundation.

BTW, the CS article you reference...it's apparently Lucianne Goldberg's favorite recent piece as well. Birds of a feather...


by bookish on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:00:08 PM EST
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Re: Interesting read, actually (none / 0)

The article isn't particularly offensive, except perhaps in its motivation.

The commenter's use of it however, was hardly in good faith.


by Pragmatic Left on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:10:11 PM EST
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They are going for an echo chamber from now until November.


by grlpatriot on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:45:23 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Really?  That's why you are the third respondent to this single comment?


by Pragmatic Left on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:53:20 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

who from??  Larry Johnson, FauxNews....???


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:40:06 PM EST
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Honestly I never thought I'd see a link to a right wing hit piece on this blog.  Troll rated for trashing another dem with that garbage.


by lex75 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:00:33 PM EST
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So you're saying Christian Science Monitor is right wing?


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:54:23 PM EST
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I'm saying that this piece is a right wing smear job which you are propogating and it's disgusting.  

I get that you aren't for Obama but he is a Democrat and like it or not, the likely Democratic nominee.  This type of thing is just as nasty as the smear jobs the Right did to Hillary as 1st lady indicating she might be a lesbian.  

I could be wrong but I thought this site was a net haven for people who wanted to promote Democrats and Progressive causes.  Smearing any of the Democratic candidates is something that should have no place here.

 


by lex75 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:15:31 PM EST
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you need to read upthread.  i was responding to blueincolorado, who is for Obama i guess and wrote something about the muslim question.

besides, since when is it a smear to discuss intelligently Obama's muslim birth status, which is what the scholor (who happens to be muslim himself) who wrote the CSM story does.  I think it's ridiculous that every time the word "muslim" is used, you guys call it right wing smear.  that's an insult to muslim americans.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:28:37 PM EST
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I did read upthread including the blog entry that was referenced.  I don't throw out a troll rating without good reason.

It's rampant speculation and clearly designed to scare people into thinking he is a muslim in hiding which the muslim who will either go easy on terrorist or will be a traitor to his religion.  

I honestly wouldn't care if he was a Muslim or not, but tell you what.  If you can explain what the point of posting that link to it is other than trying to smear him, I'm willing to revoke the troll rating.  


by lex75 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:47:41 PM EST
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Sure, you posted just because you thought it happened to be an interesting aside, and in no way intended to use the article in a way that denigrates  our nominee.

Having looked over some of your other writings, color me skeptical.


by Pragmatic Left on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:13:42 PM EST
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/ blueincolorado, who is for Obama i guess and wrote something about the muslim question./

You have trouble sticking to facts. I posted something you wrote.

I was addressing the, if you will, SoCalDarlin question.

Please don't include me in your spin.


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:55:44 PM EST
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TX... there is no "muslim question"...


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:54:19 PM EST
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"This type of thing is just as nasty as the smear jobs the Right did to Hillary as 1st lady indicating she might be a lesbian" (lex75).

The above under-handed quote shows just how hateful you Obamatans continue to be toward Sen Clinton.           How many times did your camp say that they "finally now understand what the right wing has been saying all along about the Clintons"?  How many times did your camp smear the Clintons this primary season with the race card?  Give me a break!  Your new-found sympathy for Sen Clinton is laughable--and hypocritical.  


by trixta on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:11:05 AM EST
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I like that approach, darlin.  By pointing to an article, you get to push the slur without looking like you're pushing the slur, as far as I know.


by niksder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:59:26 PM EST
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you need to read upthread.  this is all in response to blueincolorado spamming a post from another site.  blame him/her.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:29:44 PM EST
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You're a first class troll.  Good thing is people see you for what you are.  Your neat little attack of smearing without smearing is straight from the GOP playbook -it's called pre-empting.  By forcing Obama supporters to defend him against bullshit like this, it allows you to not have to defend Hillary against the mountain of bullshit, she, and you, are pushing.  Back to your bridge.


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 07:54:32 PM EST
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I love how you (none / 0)

and Lucianne Goldberg are both linking to the same article. How fucking ironic is that?


by bookish on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:10:20 PM EST
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Re: I love how you (none / 0)

aaack....  I used to red lucianne.com to see how idiotic the world is... they used to refer to Hillary as PIAPS...  that is "pig in a pantsuit"...

I would like to be kidding but I'm not.


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:55:45 PM EST
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Are you sure you're not a Republican.  Honest question I just want answered because I know from experience people aren't always who they say they are on the internets.

Why would you do this?


by Chelseain32 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:02:40 PM EST
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Because the only "source" material she can find with a corresponding link is right wing garbage.  But hey, it makes her point for her, so her hands are clean.  Funny how fewer and fewer people are saying things her, and her ilk, like to hear or are able to link to.


Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!
by RockvilleLiberal2 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 07:56:40 PM EST
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Thanks for the article. I am switching my vote. (2.00 / 2)

I have been supporting Hillary Clinton although somewhat wavering in that support lately. However, the article you linked to has finally convinced me to switch my vote to Barack Obama. The reason? Any enemy of bin Laden is a friend of mine. If our president makes bin Laden uneasy, that is very fine with me.

As any born-again Christian knows, you choose Christianity, just as Obama did. It is not forced upon you based upon who your father is. That is why Obama has growing support among evangelicals. He is a man who could have been Muslim but chose Christianity instead.

Thanks for helping guide me to an article that proved the tipping point.


by edg1 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:12:38 PM EST
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Re: Thanks for the article. I am switching my vote (none / 0)

^^^^^^ Great comment here guys! Mojo'd! ^^^^^^^^^^

Welcome aboard! I'm glad to have you in the trenches with us, fighting the good fight and taking it directly at the repugs!

We are DEMOCRATS above everything else!

These are the kinds of posts that make my blog day.


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Mon May 19, 2008 at 06:56:20 PM EST
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Re: Thanks for the article. I am switching my vote (2.00 / 1)

I don't think that is what the poster said.  I think what was stated is "We are Christians above anything else".  Didn't see any mention of Democrats (except the two candidates).  And of course, the reason for the "switch" was because Obama rejected Islam to be a Christian.  Fine enough, s/he are entitled to their reason for their vote.  Now, if only MI and FL  voters are given the chance.


by anya109 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:44:11 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Yeah, I hear Ann Coulter's site gets a lot of hits, too.


UNITY!
by The Great Gatsby on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:38:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Shireen K. Burki.  A concern troll.


by barnowl on Tue May 20, 2008 at 08:10:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I know from experience (none / 0)

that dual citizenship cost me a job at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.  Clearance issues.  Human resources were huge incompetent dicks about it too, took them 10 months to rescind my offer.

As for it being an impediment to the Presidency, I'm pretty sure it's not.  Only three criteria:

1. Born a US citizen (which means either born on US territory or born to parents who were both American citizens at the time).

2. Over 35 years of age by the date of inaugeration.

3. Having officially resided inside the US for at least the past 14 years.


by corph on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:38:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I know from experience (2.00 / 1)

He doesn't have dual citizenship.

He's not a muslim.

He's not secretly in league with Kenyan radicals.

It's all racist bullshit, meant to stoke fears, resentments and appeal to the lowest common denominator of the electorate.


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:41:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I know from experience (none / 0)

Yeah, but awfully useful in a tight primary.  


by niksder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:00:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I know from experience (none / 0)

Obviously not that useful.


by Pragmatic Left on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:15:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 2)

You are funny Rage! I agree though, lets get the vote out for everybody. If Dems vote in record numbers its good all around.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:48:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 8)

And, thank you for your support when Hillary is the nominee. You deserve a lot of credit.


by grlpatriot on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:48:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 3)

100%, if Clinton would've been the nominee, you better believe it.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:49:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 4)

ooooh....

I'm not so sure the campaign would be quick to align itself with certain bloggers.

SoCal is into some pretty sick McCarthyism and race-baiting that could make the campaign look bad.

Red Flag Questions about Barack's past that have barely been touched by the media include: dual citizenship, drug use, ties to Kenya and family relations, socialist/Marxist mentors, liberal/left-wing philosophy, religious background, State Senate of Illinois record, friendships, etc.

You can be sure that the Republicans are already salivating over the mysterious aspects of Barack's life. We'd be irresponsible to assume that these questions will remain unasked if he is our nominee.

Obviously each of these issues could comprise its own article, but here are just a few search results:

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/04 29/mystery-man-obama


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:37:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 2)

blue, again, thanks for spamming the link to my blog all over myDD.  thanks to you, I'm getting advertiser interest now.  


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:06:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (1.66 / 3)

There's always been an audience for freakshows in this country, from the travelling circuses to Jerry Springer.

Like I said, SoCal, I just like to give some context to your posts.


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:20:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Oh, wow. I never read that. What a shame they reinstated you. Huge mistake.
Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:34:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 1)

This ad?


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:36:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 9)

Um, this diary is NOT about Obama because...well...not everything is.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:49:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 3)

I thought it was about getting out the vote, supporting the Democratic party and building infrastructure for November. That's what you're encouraging, isn't it?


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:51:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 1)

Yeah that's what it sounded like, an ACTION ALERT for people to get out and vote.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:58:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 6)

For Hillary.  She's in it to WIN IT:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/relea se/view/?id=7764


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:54:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Yeah, but if she doesn't it will still be good that all these people got out to vote. So in that regard we are all on the same team.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:59:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 1)

So, they only matter if they vote for Clinton?


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:39:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

You are finally starting to understand 'Clinton' math. Sheesh, it only took you, like, -2.763 minutes.
If yer after gettin the honey, then you don't go killing all the bees.
by Fluffy Puff Marshmallow on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:03:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 2)


"More War Years! More War Years!" ~John McCain
by Tommy Flanagan on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:09:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Yes she can!


by french imp on Mon May 19, 2008 at 06:06:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Non, elle ne peut pas.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:36:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Yeah! Get Out to Vote!

As Hillary is sure to win, vote for Obama rather!
In that way Obama will not be totally crushed,
nor his supporters humiliated, and they will more easily switch to Hillary's side in November!

For Hillary's sake vote for Obama!


by french imp on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:17:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Hillary closing gap in OR (2.00 / 7)

This is great news. Thanks for the rally! Go Hillary!


by grlpatriot on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:46:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

You do know it is a mail in vote?    


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:49:47 AM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 5)

And I hope that you know that there's always a surge of people who drop off their ballots in the last 2 days.  Hence, the undecideds in the weekend poll.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:51:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

I will take that as a yes.  I couldn't tell from your diary.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:18:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

d'OH! don't you feel stupid (1.33 / 3)

people have the option of dropping their ballots in locked ballot boxes on the street today.


For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:06:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: d'OH! don't you feel stupid (none / 0)

Not really crazy lady.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:46:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

What? Is this another trick to confuse the Hillary campaign?


by french imp on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:18:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (2.00 / 1)

It is what it is!...I hope these numbers stay...that means she pulled it in real close....Go Hillary!


by GendraX on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:49:51 AM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

As also pointed out in reply to earlier diary, I've looked at internals of Suffolk Poll, which show only 26% of the sample under the age of 45.  That seems very low and raises question of missing younger voters using cell phones etc. I will not be suprised if BO's lead is cut to high single digits, but if HRC's own polling showed this at 4% you can bet that she would have never left Oregon.  Surely an upset in Oregon would have been worth more than piling on a few more points in Kentucky.

Also, because Oregon turnout is expected to be very high, 70% or more, with Kentucky much lower, any increase in BO's margin in Oregon will cut into HRC's raw popular vote net gain tomorrow.  She needs to at least double and probably triple his margin in Oregon to yield a popular net gain from her win in Kentucky.  


by Kensingtonbill on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:50:52 AM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

So how does a nearly even split close the gap? What am I missing?


by xdem on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:51:09 AM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT (none / 0)

Assume the potential Oregon and Kentucky electorates are of comparable size, say 2 million.  If BO wins by 8 pts in Oregon, with 75% turnout, and HRC wins Kentucky by 30 pts with 30% turnout, result would be 2 mio x .75 x .08 = 120,000 net gain for Obama in Oregon, vs. 2 mio x .30 x .30 = 180,000 for Clinton in Kentucky.  So 60,000 net gain for HRC.  But if Obama wins by 12 points in Oregon, he would also net 180,000 votes there (2 mio x .75 x .12), thus offsetting her larger % win in Kentucky.  On the other hand, HRC's advantage would be increased if BO's margin declines or if Kentucky turnout is larger, but local press reports indicate an expected turnout around 25%.  Happy to be proven wrong on latter if a link to contrary info can be provided.  


by Kensingtonbill on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:09:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Oh (none / 0)

 You were talking about the contrivance which goes by the name 'popular vote' whereas I was referring to 'the gap' in delegates, which will determine the nominee. I'm sorry for my question, and for the distraction it caused.


by xdem on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:10:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Oh (none / 0)

Haven't you heard? Neither delegates or popular vote count anymore. What counts is polls which are then using some fantastical form of mystery magical manipulation are transmogrified into presumptive electoral votes. As you can see in the graphs at the top of the home page, Hillary clearly leads in presumptive electoral votes. You need to pay better attention. Oh, and please don't be giving me any crap about how electoral votes don't apply in the primary. That's so last week.


by edg1 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:19:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"Crap (none / 0)

about how electoral votes don't apply in the primary?"

How did guesses about future Electoral College vote possibilities become the rallying cry of those who are also insisting that every vote be counted, except votes in caucus states, but including states that were excluded or cheating, but not counting votes for undeclared where 2 candidates removed themselves from the ballot?

Never mind, I think I know how - just pick the conclusion that suits you and work backward from there.


by xdem on Mon May 19, 2008 at 07:38:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: "Crap (none / 0)

My comment was snark. Sorry if that wasn't clear.


by edg1 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 10:33:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Love that Perserverance poster (2.00 / 6)

in the pic.

Who knows what Oregon will do Tuesday. Call both OR and Kentucky!


by catfish1 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 11:54:01 AM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 1)

I talked to many undecideds, even as late as yesterday.  Where did you hear that 75% of the ballots are already in?  I heard a figure much lower than that on Friday.


by JustJennifer on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:01:43 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

Figure of 70% turnout or higher (total, including those ballots to be dropped off tomorrow, not just already submitted) has been cited in Oregon press.  


by Kensingtonbill on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:15:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (1.90 / 11)

Good unity diary.  It's essential for the Democratic party to get out every vote possible, as it will pay massive dividends in November. Turnout, turnout, turnout.


by Pat Flatley on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:10:56 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (1.50 / 8)

Just to be perfectly clear, THIS IS NOT A UNITY DIARY.

This is a GOTV diary FOR HILLARY, who is still in this race to WIN IT.

TO THE CONVENTION, Hillary Democrats:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/2153 /75579


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:51:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 1)

OK--this is not a UNITY DIARY. Congrats for making your point so clearly. In the end though posts like this will be in the interests of party unity because if we vote in record numbers in November we win. Sorry that you are having problems committing to a unified party but despite your combative stance in the end we will be unified and we will win.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:04:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

TR'd because YOU are the one being combative.  This is a pro-Hillary diary; if you don't like it, then get the f. out of it.  Obama has not won the nomination, and so HRC supporters are more than welcome to rally for their candidate.


by slynch on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:41:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

In your dreams!  I, and many members of my family and friends, are leaving the Dem party and won't be voting for Obama in November.  We'll either write in Hillary's name or vote for McCain.  We're moving on.  


by trixta on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:22:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

"Just to be perfectly clear, THIS IS NOT A UNITY DIARY."

Excellent! Just like Magritte's 'This is not a pipe'.

"This is a GOTV diary FOR HILLARY"

You mean in memoriam Hillary?  Those capital letters remind me of an inscription engraved on a tombstone. Aren't you burying her too fast? You might hurt some feelings here, you know.

"who is still in this race to WIN IT?"

BO? I think I'm beginning to get your peculiar sense of humour. I love you!


by french imp on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:28:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 3)

Thanks Pat. Yes, we are unifying Hillary supporters to GOTV. Thanks for your encouragement for Hillary supporters to continue supporting her. Go Hillary!


by grlpatriot on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:19:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Look at Ohio and nat'l Rasmussen (2.00 / 3)

In addition to good news for Ms. Clinton in KY:

Kentucky Democratic Primary    Suffolk    Clinton 51, Obama 25    Clinton +26.0

She's ahead of Obama in the national Rasmussen daily head to head, and in Ohio as well:

General Election: McCain vs. Clinton    Rasmussen Tracking    Clinton 45, McCain 45    Tie
General Election: McCain vs. Obama    Rasmussen Tracking    Obama 44, McCain 45    McCain +1.0

Ohio: McCain vs. Clinton    Rasmussen    McCain 43, Clinton 50    Clinton +7.0
Ohio: McCain vs. Obama    Rasmussen    McCain 45, Obama 44    McCain +1.0


by katmandu1 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 12:58:03 PM EST

Re: Look at Ohio and nat'l Rasmussen (2.00 / 3)

Excellent news, thank you!  I guess Rasmussen had a change of heart and decided it was premature to stop polling for the national Democratic preferences.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:03:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Look at Ohio and nat'l Rasmussen (2.00 / 3)

Um.... you so know about "margin of error", don't you? a one point lead isn't something you'd wanna bet on.

Pres '08 (D)
May 19 Gallup
Obama 55%, Clinton 39%


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:27:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Like the HRC sign says: PERSEVERANCE! (2.00 / 5)

Even from those bloggers who attempt to hijack a pro-HRC diary by repeatedly misrepresenting its intent. Like so many things witnessed this year in our Party, just because folks keep stating the same lies over and over again, it has no bearing on the truth!

The truth shall prevail. Eventually, it always does. Even here.

Go, Hillary, go!

(And, truth means that a suspended campaign is NOT over. Especially considering the fact that the Party's nominee is NOT chosen until the convention. We're talking about the closest Democratic Presidential Primary in generations. It ain't over 'til it's over. And, don't anyone forget that, no matter how much bloviating you hear to the contrary!)


by bobswern on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:04:08 PM EST

Re: Like the HRC sign says: PERSEVERANCE! (1.90 / 22)

Nobody is hijacking the thread. Just trying to point out that at the end of the day we are all Dems and need to get to the polls. So threads that encourage democrats to vote are for all intents and purposes unity diaries. And plus its fun to watch TD write "THIS IS NOT A UNITY DIARY" in big letters. Why you would want to be against unity is another story.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:09:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Like the HRC sign says: PERSEVERANCE! (2.00 / 3)

Wow--holy troll rate abuse batman. TR'ed for promoting unity and the notion that Dems voting, no matter who they are voting for, is a good thing.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:20:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Like the HRC sign says: PERSEVERANCE! (2.00 / 2)

I don't know why this was hide-rated. will my '2'help?
Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:36:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Like the HRC sign says: PERSEVERANCE! (2.00 / 2)

Thanks! I appreciate it.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:45:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Like the HRC sign says: PERSEVERANCE! (2.00 / 1)

Why don't you Obama operatives just leave us aloooooone!  If your guy is as inspirational as you say, he should have no problem getting new voters.  As for many HRC voters, we have moved on to other friendlier communities and political coalitions. Many of us are going Independent.

Your woooing tactics are pathetic!


by trixta on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:27:54 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 0)

here is a poll for ya
http://www.gallup.com/poll/107395/Gallup -Daily-Obama-Opens-16Point-Lead-Biggest- Yet.aspx
"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"
by nogo postal on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:17:52 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 4)

no, no, no....

this is EXACTLY where hillary wants to be ~ down almost 200 delegates with 5 contests to go ~

it's in the bag ~ she's in it to win it!!

GO HILLARY!!1!!1

in any case, i just hope Hillary ENDS her campaign, and doesn't 'suspend' it ~ a suspension will just give her supporters reason to "fight" on until Denver, as if the delegates would overturn the nominee after he's been campaigning for 2 months.  ugh.


by pholkhero on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:34:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

A flesh wound!


by niksder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:23:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Today's Gallup (2.00 / 1)

is what Democrats deciding that the race is over looks like.


by activatedbybush on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:22:04 PM EST

Local OR tv interview w/HRC today (2.00 / 2)

Shelley Kurtz, KVAL Ch. 13 morning anchor interviewed Hillary live from Kentucky today. The link to video is just below Hill's picture. "Kurtz asked Clinton about the May primary, about No Child Left Behind and about county payments from the federal treasury." Our girl may not be in OR, but she is hitting the airwaves. Go Hillary!


by grlpatriot on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:40:50 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

Good reporting TexasDarling.

Obama is a damaged candidate.  He collected his delgegates in caucus states that are mostly RED.

Once some of the press began to look at him closely, some of his past "record, or lack thereof" came out.  More to come, that's for sure.
Rezko will be found guilty (hopefully the jury will reach a verdict prior to June 1), and Ob will be further tainted as being a close member of the Illinois Combine.


JohnnyB
by JohnnyB on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:45:40 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

He collected his delgegates in caucus states that are mostly RED.

As opposed to Hillary Clinton who keeps telling us that Indiana and Kentucky should decide the Democratic nomination.

#
Pres '08 (D)
May 19 Gallup
Obama 55%, Clinton 39%

That's among Democrats, btw.


by BlueinColorado on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:50:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

So, if Obama is Damaged (2.00 / 2)

What the hell is Hillary?

LOL...you guys kill me.  You believe in your finite wisdom that every freakin' thing HRC has done in the past (failed healthcare plany anyone?) and this campaign (peace in Ireland and sniper fire over Bosnia - someone needs to make a song about that sung to the tune of Hands Across America) will be ignored by the GOP.

Are you that DENSE? That was a rhetorical question, by the way.  She can be painted as a "liar" in one fell swoop and then all of the past will be dredged up.

As for your Rezko argument you are delusional once again.  Do you really think that if there were dirt on Obama it wouldn't have come out during the trial?

I'm sorry if losing the primary race is psychologically unsoothing for you, but I don't think you want to live your life in a state of denial or delusion much longer.


I'm riding the Low Road Express. Join me at www.lowroadexpress.com
by LtWorf on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:26:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 1)

Reponse to this poll.

 1.  These folks have NEVER done a poll in OR to my knowledge.

  2. Their crosstabs suck to be frank.  More than half their sample is 56 and about 75% is 45 and older.  The electorate will definately skew younger than that.  They polled indies, who can't vote in the primary and they don't break out any minority groups at all.

  3. Marion County is no f-ing bellweather county.  Also, doing an SPSS observation-based analysis is really quite weak.  A better bell-weather would be Washington County or even Lane or Deschutes.


by skywaker9 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:48:22 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 5)

CNN News is showing in their polling that Obama's lead in Oregon has slipped, and he only has a modest lead now. Hillary leads by 30% in Kentucky.


Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News
by steve468 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:48:23 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 1)

And Poblanos poll says Obama up by 13? He has been spot on in every race.


by venician on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:01:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

could you provide a link please?


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:05:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

It's on the diary list.


by venician on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:22:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

here it is

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/05/o regon-projection-obama-by-13.html


by polara on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:10:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Thank You! (2.00 / 4)

Thanks, TexasDarlin, for the wonderful unity diary.  

We can all agree that every Democrat needs to get out and vote.

Way to go!


by emptythreatsfarm on Mon May 19, 2008 at 01:53:03 PM EST

Re: Thank You! (2.00 / 4)

I thought the same thing when I read it! This is a wonderful diary Tex and I am glad you wrote it. GOTV is essential to winning the G.E. and this unity diary is a step in the right direction.

Kudos TexasDarlin!


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:04:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thank You! (1.83 / 6)

Not a unity diary, and oh by the way -- the new "let's be nice to hillary people" mandate coming from BO is too little too late.

Read the diary again.


TexasDarlin blog
by TexasDarlin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:16:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thank You! (2.00 / 1)

BO will never get my vote. BTW, great pic you attached.


by soyousay on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:26:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thank You! (none / 0)

All the dead and mutilated in Iraq will thank you for your courageous stand in supporting the McCain Presidency.
Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:26:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thank You! (2.00 / 5)

Don't be so modest!

You've done a great job with your first unity diary here.

It's good to see something that Clinton and Obama supporters can agree on.

I'm recommending!


by emptythreatsfarm on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:27:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thank You! (2.00 / 2)

It is a great diary! I think I will rec it up too! More of this positive energy is needed around here.


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:32:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thank You! (2.00 / 2)

I think what everyone, myself included is trying to say, is that whatever your purpose for this diary, in the end if it gets Dems to vote its good for the party and therefore party unity. So we all will rec diaries that encourage voting for Dems. So thanks Texas, whether you meant it or not, this is a unity diary.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:57:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thank You! (none / 0)

TexasDarling I adore you! I hope I'm not being overly sexist in saying that...
Thank you for this wonderful diary! Thank you for saving the world with your wonderful unity diary!

Oh I mean non-unity diary of course (wink)...

Kudos!


by french imp on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:37:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Thank You! (2.00 / 1)

These Obama operatives are soooo sleazy!  I say we just ignore their postings.  Engaging with them is such a waste of time.  

 


by trixta on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:34:48 AM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 1)

Republicans register here and try to act like Obama or Clinton supporters in an attempt to break us up.

Don't trust any overly pro-Clinton or pro-Obama fans saying ugly things about either candidate. 90% of supporters will be just fine after a few days of mourning. Trust me, we will all cry more if McCain wins in November.


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:14:01 PM EST

False Flag Operations (none / 0)

Yes, there is actually some evidence (which I detail in a recent diary) that right-wingers are trolling these forums pretending to be Obama and Clinton supporters and trying to deepen the divisions among Dems.  I don't think TexasDarlin or Alegre are part of that, but much of the trollish behavior that has fueled this continuing division could indeed be from these false flag operations.

It really is unwise to judge a candidate based on worst of their supporters, particularly when you can't even be sure those 'supporters' are who they claim to be.


by protothad on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:37:21 PM EST
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So what? They couldn't surpass the real supporters (none / 0)


by lombard on Mon May 19, 2008 at 07:10:44 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

Don't trust your post--you, Obamatan!


by trixta on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:36:36 AM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 3)

MAKE CALLS for Hillary people. Thanks TD for your video support. For those of you who have not seen our new video WE NEED YOUR HELP.

PLEASE go to YOUTUBE mark it as your fav and leave a comment or this video will NOT get any attention.

THANKS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvuMDmqww bI


by IndyRobin on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:29:29 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

New SUSA Poll shows Obama by 13.  Data here: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollRepo rt.aspx?g=43d3ad90-4714-4aef-ad28-931961 c0aaf6


by skywaker9 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 02:30:38 PM EST

SUSA just released an updated OR poll (2.00 / 2)

Obama 55

Clinton 42

Link

So much for that tight race.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:05:03 PM EST

Re: SUSA just released an updated OR poll (none / 0)

Don't forget to mention Obama +9% among people who have already mailed in ballots.


by jontabb on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:15:35 PM EST
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Re: SUSA just released an updated OR poll (2.00 / 1)

Actually, this tightening of the race is quite remarkable when you think of the media hit job on Hillary as of late.  


by trixta on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:38:18 AM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

Folks, don't turn this into another NC where certain polls show the race to be close, when we all know it won't be.

Obama will win Oregon by more than double digits, or close to double-digits.


by RussTC3 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:05:56 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

"more than double digits".  I don't think so, since he would have to get more than 100% of the vote.


by anya109 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:51:41 PM EST
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Heh.  I think what I meant to say was "higher" double-digits (as in 15+, instead of less than 15).


by RussTC3 on Tue May 20, 2008 at 04:04:09 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

Looks like Obama is already GOTV in a big way, pulling in 75,000 (and a few dozen boats!) to a Portland, Oregon rally.

If projections of a 700,000 turnout are correct, more than one in ten showed up in force on Sunday.

This one feels a lot like NC--look for a spread in the teens.

Hillary will score a win in Kentucky, her last until Puerto Rico.  Puerto Rico, not being a state, has no swing in the GE in November.  It would be a strange sort of contortion that somehow bestowed significance on Puerto Rico while ignoring completely all the "Red States" that Obama was able to pile on along the way.

Let's enjoy this epic race--and then unite behind the nominee.


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:16:52 PM EST

You might want to check out the FP... (none / 0)

Jonathan Singer demonstrates in that post.  That this entire diary is completely wrong.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Mon May 19, 2008 at 03:27:23 PM EST

Re: You might want to check out the FP... (none / 0)

And thus it has found its natural home on the rec list.

Still waiting for the day mydd officially comes to its senses....


"Mom, baseball, apple pie, and a unified Democratic juggernaut."
by Purplepeople on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:18:34 PM EST
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Re: PPP Poll just released (none / 0)

PPP pOLL:

Obama 58
Clinton 39

19 pt difference.


by BDM on Mon May 19, 2008 at 04:47:27 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

SUSA Poll

BO 55
HRC 42

glad to see diaries still make rec'd list after 5 plus hours (not really)


by aaaa05 on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:20:01 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 1)

And, SUSA is the most widely accepted poll on this site.  They have been pretty good, we will see if they nailed this one, too.


Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."
by igottheblues on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:14:43 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

Rec'd for the GOTV message.  Helps all Democrats.  Nice to see this move from you, TD.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:35:28 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

Yes! Let us all rec this wonderful unity diary.
It deserves to remain on top of the list for ever,
as a memorial of... I've forgotten what but no matter.
by french imp on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:42:05 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

Better to have it be rec'd by both Obama and Clinton supporters than to have it fester as a hotbed of Obama hatred. I like that its about GOTV and despite the intentions of the original diarist, it deserves reccing as it is about maximizing participation. This will only help our nominee, Obama, in the fall and therefore is a unity diary.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:48:01 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

Precisely why I rec'd it.  This primary season has really been extraordinary in terms of turnout, new registrations, and voter involvement.  TD's call for GOTV only helps those things, and helps the Dems and their likely nominee get ready for McCain and the limping Republican party in the fall.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Mon May 19, 2008 at 06:11:55 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

Aside for signficantly underweighing the under 45 vote by about 50%, they also conducted the poll at the same 75,000 Kool-Aiders were down by the river.  No problem, that isn't quite 10% of all the registered Dems in the state, but its close.  

And the poll was conducted by college kids.  I know how little respect they get in the Hillary camp so I am certain that same lack of respect will be applied to these poll results.  


by Rick in Eugene on Mon May 19, 2008 at 05:47:40 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 2)

HILLARY AND BARACK SUPPORTERS!
Lend me your ears!

This wonderful UNITY DIARY must remain on top of the record list, above even Alegre's most flamboyant contributions, until this nomination process comes to an end!

Please rec it! BY UNITING OUR REC's we will wed our divine sounds and mixed powers employ to defeat McCain! Not only will our nominee win, but even McCain will endorse em before November!

Thank you for your attention.


by french imp on Mon May 19, 2008 at 06:00:58 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

BS!  I'm voting for McCain this time around.


by trixta on Tue May 20, 2008 at 01:46:49 AM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

Yeah, I hate a woman's right to choose too.


by jere7my on Tue May 20, 2008 at 03:34:19 AM EST
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You fell for it (none / 0)

you fell for the ARRRRRGGGG poll.


by RandyMI on Mon May 19, 2008 at 07:32:13 PM EST

When in doubt... (2.00 / 1)

I go to pollster.com.  They have Obama over Clinton in Oregon 54-41.

http://www.pollster.com/08-OR-Dem-Pres-P rimary.php


Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."
by igottheblues on Mon May 19, 2008 at 07:51:16 PM EST

To be fair... (2.00 / 1)

of course they have Clinton destroying Obama in Kentucky:

http://www.pollster.com/08-KY-Dem-Pres-P rimary.php

But, when she is able to win in a state that does not include her base, as Obama has, then I will be impressed.  However, her only big wins, two now, have been in states where Obama could never have won against her.  I know, but now democrat has won the White House without carrying WV.  Dukakis won WV, sure did him some good.  

But, while we are talking about anomalies, Bill Clinton was the first left handed president to serve two terms (as a lefty, I keep up with what is important in our world.. and yes, Obama is lefty!!).  If, as aleft handed president, Bill Clinton can win the White House two time, we can win without WV.  Seems some traditions, for lack of a better word, can be broken.


Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."
by igottheblues on Mon May 19, 2008 at 07:58:58 PM EST
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Shhhh (none / 0)

Let them call, GOTV is good for Democrats.

I like the new SUSA poll myself


It's time to restore balance and fairness to our economy,... It's time to stop giving tax cuts to corporations that ship jobs overseas... - Barack Obama
by Lefty Coaster on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:11:05 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

Recc'd for promoting Democratic unity.


by DeskHack on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:56:10 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for your support in nominating Hillary.


by grlpatriot on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:06:07 PM EST
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In your heart of hearts, Darlin... (none / 0)

What's the best thing we Deomcrats can do to ensure a win in November? Make phone calls and donate money to Hillary to gain 5 pts. in Oregon? Do you really, really, think so?

Wage a bitter fight concerning seating FL and MI delegates, even after the nomination is secured?  Is that really what you beleive?

C'mon...whisper the truth to me. I won't tell anyvbody.


Often wrong; seldom in doubt.
by Goober Pea on Mon May 19, 2008 at 08:59:27 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

Rec'd for GOTV message.  Vote for Obama, vote for Clinton, just vote.


by NewOaklandDem on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:08:08 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (2.00 / 1)

Texas,

I'm amazed that you managed to singlehandedly convert a bunch of Obama supporters to support Hillary! All these calls for Rec'ing your diary and unity to support Hillary is welcomed. I knew they would eventually come around to see, like we do, that Hillary is the best and strongest candidate to beat McCain and win back the White House.


by grlpatriot on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:10:29 PM EST

Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

Hmmm..no.

If I could rec, it would be for its GOTV message, which only benefits the nominee in the fall as a unified front against McCain.  

As such, please accept a phantom rec for its message of unity.


Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."
by igottheblues on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:14:47 PM EST
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Re: Tight Race in Oregon: ACTION ALERT [Update] (none / 0)

TD's passion and drive to get people to vote is what I am reacting to here. I don't agree that Hillary is the best candidate but in the end this passion is going to drive our victory in November.


by wasder on Mon May 19, 2008 at 09:17:31 PM EST
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Re: Conversion (none / 0)

 I'll admit that when I am being proselytized (the most recent example was when a life-long friend was regaling me to vote for McCain), I will often take the easy way out and tell them "OK, I'm convinced! Thank-you for educating me." It's often the only way to make a true believer change the subject. Unless you go into the booth with a person, the nature of their vote is a secret.


by xdem on Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:01:31 AM EST


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