Obama's Money Cartel:

Interesting article I found on the black agenda report website.  A few weeks ago here on mydd, I was told I was racist, so I started reading sites that were part of the Afrosphere; to better understand what black Americans were thinking about the primaries and the election.  

So, Obama is clean?  Obama doesn't take money from lobbyists?

I am new to the Afrosphere, so I looked at this site and saw it linked to many other progressive black sites, so I don't think it is a republican site.  How creditable is this claim?  

The candidate that claims to be the only presidential contender who doesn't take money from lobbyists is in fact the biggest recipient of lobby-related contributions. Barack Obama rakes in millions from law firms serving the interests of Wall Street, including the financial institutions that gave us the subprime lending crisis. Lawyers that work for firms that earn hundreds of millions of dollars for lobbying may technically not be lobbyists, but they share in their colleagues' earnings as influencers of Congress - a legal loophole that allows Obama to claim his hands are clean of lobby loot. "The top contributors to the Obama campaign are the very Wall Street firms whose shady mortgage lenders buried the elderly and the poor and minority under predatory loans."

So, how should we react when we learn that the top contributors to the Obama campaign are the very Wall Street firms whose shady mortgage lenders buried the elderly and the poor and minority under predatory loans? How should we react when we learn that on the big donor list is Citigroup, whose former employee at CitiFinancial testified to the Federal Trade Commission that it was standard practice to target people based on race and educational level, with the sales force winning bonuses called  "Rocopoly Money" (like a sick board game), after "blitz" nights of soliciting loans by phone? How should we react when we learn that these very same firms, arm in arm with their corporate lawyers and registered lobbyists, have weakened our ability to fight back with the class-action vehicle?

Should there be any doubt left as to who owns our government? The very same cast of characters making the Obama hit parade of campaign loot are the clever creators of the industry solutions to the wave of foreclosures gripping this nation's poor and middle class, effectively putting the solution in the hands of the robbers. The names of these programs (that have failed to make a dent in the problem) have the same vacuous ring: Hope Now; Project Lifeline.

http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.p hp?option=com_content&task=view& id=613&Itemid=1



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Re: Obama's Money Cartel: (1.80 / 5)

I'm sure that at least 1.2 million of his 1.5 million supporters are Rezko and his closest cohorts.  Thanks for reinforcing my preexisting viewpoint.

Come ON.  Enough with the BS hitpieces.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:28:36 PM EST

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BS hitpieces?  This is not from a republican site and it is recent.  

I asked a question as I noticed that a) it was on the afrosphere as a news article and b) is it creditable?

you seem to think it is not.  Why?


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:30:32 PM EST

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It is not his job to find data to support or refute your dataless diary.  It is yours.

Also, you seem to think we should give extra credence to your quotes because they are from the "afrosphere", why?  And is afrosphere a real word?


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:32:46 PM EST
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I was told it was.  I was also told I was a racist because I didn't like the separation of the net.

I was told to get over it and read up on those sites.  I did.  How about you?


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:35:10 PM EST
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I'm glad that, because it came from black people, it's gospel.

Good on ya.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:38:25 PM EST
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where did I state it was gospel?  I was asking people here for their opinions on it.

Obviously, based on the quick responses, they didn't bother to read the article or research the site themselves - so, I am asking the follow-up questions  of why it is BS and why it is a hit piece


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:40:21 PM EST
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"Should there be any doubt left as to who owns our government?"

He has 1.5 million contributors which is the largest number in American history.  That this question can even be asked is about the  most retarded thing I've ever read.

When I see something this stupid, I treat it as the trash it is.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:42:02 PM EST
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yeah, yeah, the 1.5 million contributors who give an average of 92 or is it 98 bucks a pop.  

so you didn't even bother to read the full article.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:43:39 PM EST
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Most of the money comes from big donors (none / 0)

Obama asks that people attending some of his events contribute $1 etc. too. But by far, most of the money comes from big contributors.

Why is Obama's campaign so obsessed about appearing to not be funded by special interests?

Its my theory that Obama is at least in part a
fixer
for the healthcare industry.

Regardless, he clearly is an insiders insider.


Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%
by architek on Sun May 18, 2008 at 10:39:13 PM EST
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Re: Most of the money comes from big donors (none / 0)

I don't know the actual total to date but as March 30, Obama had raised ~234 million dollars.

See this link for that information.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summar y.php?cid=N00009638&cycle=2008

If this money was raised solely by max donors, there would still be over 1 million donors to his campaign.  I still think that is people powered fundraising to me.

We also know that this money has not been raised solely by max donors.  There are many people like who have donated what they to support his candidacy ($200).  That is a great deal of money to me and I don't appreciate you trying to delegitimize what his campaign has done and his large pool of non-max supporters.


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Sun May 18, 2008 at 10:57:04 PM EST
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Re: Most of the money comes from big donors (none / 0)

here are many people like ME who have donated what they to support his candidacy ($200).  That is a great deal of money to me and I don't appreciate you trying to delegitimize what his campaign has done and his large pool of non-max supporters.

The Me was important to that sentence. Sorry for the typo.


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Sun May 18, 2008 at 10:58:27 PM EST
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Wow, and you say I have bad manners (1.00 / 0)

At least I know it unlike you - apparently an asshole without self-awareness.


by lombard on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:07:00 PM EST
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So, because it's from the "afrosphere", it's legitimate? So you went looking for what black people were saying about Obama to prove... what?

And they called you racist? Huh. Go figure.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:32:47 PM EST
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no, I was told to read up on what the afrosphere was stating about this election.

I asked it this site was legit and I did research the author.

seems legit.  Seems like you have issues with reading an article


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:34:19 PM EST
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Uh huh. Then address my concern about Obama's links to BIG HOME IMPROVEMENT. Why are you ignoring it? What do you have to hide, Obamaton? Your messiah can't answer that one!


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:38:14 PM EST
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This is snark, for anyone who doesn't catch that.


by Builderman on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:18:51 PM EST
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The article is perfectly legitimate -- it appeared originally on Counterpunch magazine (not the website but the print journal) and the author is Pam Martens, a Wall Street reporter/muckraker. I've read other articles by her -- she's not even anti-Obama, from what I've read of her -- she merely reports the truth as she sees it and holds out hope that Obama can be a good leader in spite of being "vetted by Wall Street and found pleasing."


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Sun May 18, 2008 at 11:29:46 PM EST
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This is an anti-Obama site that tries to get legitimacy through its name.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:34:55 PM EST
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is it?  how do you know?


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:36:23 PM EST
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**Afrosphere?  Are you broadcasting from Honkytown?


If the choice is between hope and fear, always choose hope. BC
by greylox on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:51:23 PM EST
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hey, I was told and yelled at a few weeks ago by Obama supporters that was a valid term.

now you want to make fun of it?  

Make up your mind.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:53:08 PM EST
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Was Greylox one of the people who told you that?

Or are we all the same?


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:56:07 PM EST
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nope.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:58:36 PM EST
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oh and on the 'net, no one knows who you are.  So, your azz-hole statement of "do we all look alike to you" should be "do we all sound alike to you"


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:59:32 PM EST
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sorry, I misquoted you.  I would hide my statement if I could.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:00:12 PM EST
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Posting a diary before doing research? (2.00 / 1)

Campaign funding is easily tracked.  Please try to verify your claims before posting blanket quotes from other blogs.  Without data, your diary comes off as a random hit diary.


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:30:38 PM EST

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Cole's right, and as I've tried to tell people for months now, Obama's been in the pocket of many "special interests"- nobody LISTENS TO ME.

Obama has take hundreds of thousands of dollars from BIG HOME IMPROVEMENT- specifically, The Home Depot. What is Obama hiding here? What is he planning? Could it be in conjunction with the homebuilding crisis? I smell a rat- one that can't be allayed by the information publicly stored at FEC.gov.

EXPOSE THIS FRAUD FOR WHO HE IS!


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:31:30 PM EST

Re: Obama's Money Cartel: (2.00 / 2)

Did you hear that he was going to make Bob Vila his Veep?


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:39:30 PM EST
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Even knowing Bob Villa is endorsed by Craftsman, the Sears brand? THAT MANIPULATIVE, SANCTIMONIUS BASTARD! HOW DARE HE?


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:41:58 PM EST
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I thought the Table Tennis lobby that has Obama in its pocket?

STOP BIG PING-PONG!


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:47:22 PM EST
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I thought it was the bowling industry.


by Roberta on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:50:39 PM EST
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OBAMA IS KINGPIN!  STOP BIG BOWLING!


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:53:49 PM EST
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it is not a blanket quote from another blog.  Why don't you read the link that I posted.  My god, I gave you info on the site.  

the author is
Pam Martens worked on Wall Street for 21 years; she has no securities position, long or short, in any company mentioned in this article. She writes on public interest issues from New Hampshire.

she writes on commondreams.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:32:59 PM EST

Re: Obama's Money Cartel: (2.00 / 3)

I've come accorss this nonsense before and I've also seen it debunked. These supposed "lobbyist contributions" he is recieving are anything but - say a nurse gives Barack money, idiots like the one who wrote the article cited above count that as a contribution from "the healthcare industry"......LOL.

It's pathetic the lengths some people will go to to make it seem like Barack is dirty.

So, say there is some lowly teller of a bank who contributes to Obama - idiots like the one who wrote the above cited article claim that is a contribution form the "banking industry". LOL

Next smear, please. I have lots of free time to debunk BS today.


by Deano963 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:34:39 PM EST

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"How should we react when we learn that on the big donor list is Citigroup ..."

This shows a complete lack of understanding of how the funding process works.

Corporations cannot give donations to political campaigns.

Corporations CAN create and run Political Action Committees (PACs) that solicit donations from executives and shareholders up to $5000 each and funnel those donations to a political campaign, but Obama does not accept any money from PACs.

Obama's contributions come entirely from donations by individuals, up to just over $2000 each at a maximum.  Any time a donation over $200 is given, however, the campaign is required to release the name, address, and employer of that donor.  The employer is then used to tally how much of a candidate's donations come from a particular sector.

When you see that Obama has raised however many thousands of dollars from Citigroup, that's incorrect: he's raised that money from EMPLOYEES of Citigroup.  People just like you or me.

If you want to talk about the subprime lending industry and whose campaign it affects, look to the links between Delta Financial Corporation and Maggie Williams, Senator Clinton's campaign manager.  That's a lot more damning.


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:39:17 PM EST

Re: Obama's Money Cartel: (2.00 / 1)

I sense the inhabitants of Taylor Marsh, Hillaryis44 and No Quarter are starting to panic.

The lies are getting more outlandish.

Please go to OpenSecrets.org each to track every donation above $200


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:39:41 PM EST

Re: Obama's Money Cartel: (2.00 / 0)

I am not an inhabitant of those sites.  I was linking thru all of the side links and found this article.

again, your knee jerk reactions are getting old.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:42:00 PM EST
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Then answer my concerns, and stop hiding and ignoring information for your idol, Barack HUSSEIN Obama the Vile, willing to take HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS from BIG HOME IMPROVEMENT.


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:45:16 PM EST
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who the hell are you talking to?  Your daughter?  


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:46:34 PM EST
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Yes, my six-month old daughter. WHY WON'T YOU ADDRESS THESE CLAIMS? WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:11:45 PM EST
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**I really can't tell if this is a joke or not.  Seriously.  What is it?  


If the choice is between hope and fear, always choose hope. BC
by greylox on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:52:58 PM EST
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it is a snark.  He is just having fun because he refuses to read anything and just wants to post his FAIL pics


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:53:57 PM EST
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He's ignoring Obama's clear links to BIG HOME IMPROVEMENT, which has given him literally HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of dollars in donations, and he REFUSES to acknowledge his Obamessiah might have a fault or two. Tell him to STOP TRYING TO HIDE the TRUTH and ADDRESS IT!


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:59:26 PM EST
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What about the positive articles that you came across concerning Obama??  Why not post those??  Or were you really looking for something "dirty" that so happened to come from "Afrosphere"?


A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin
by hootie4170 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 10:31:37 PM EST
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Here are some pictures of his money "cartel."


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:40:07 PM EST

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Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:43:41 PM EST
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Yep. Don't go out on a limb with nothing to back it up.


Anybody's vote is worth having. But not everybody's vote is worth campaigning for.
by Freespeechzone on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:53:18 PM EST
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why keep doing McCain's work? (2.00 / 3)

on a Democratic site?

this doesn't help Clinton.

i read a comment from anna shane earlier, that supposedly summed up alegre's position, which was that Obama supporters should stop attacking Clinton and instead promote Obama. why doesn't that apply to Clinton supporters?

stop it! if you want to help Clinton, talk about how great she is. and Obama supporters should talk about Obama.


the time to rise has been engaged.
by catchaz on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:47:31 PM EST

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from the site

Seven of the Obama campaign's top 14 donors consisted of officers and employees of the same Wall Street firms charged time and again with looting the public and newly implicated in originating and/or bundling fraudulently made mortgages. These latest frauds have left thousands of children in some of our largest minority communities coming home from school to see eviction notices and foreclosure signs nailed to their front doors. Those scars will last a lifetime.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:49:55 PM EST

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Yep.  No editorializing in that piece.  None.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:52:53 PM EST
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Employees eh? (none / 0)

Somebody who works for a business donated to Obama! Alert the police!
by JJE on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:00:15 PM EST
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What is a top donor? The max anyone can contribute is $2300.  This is really starting to smell like bullshit.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:51:10 PM EST
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I managed to read the whole article (2.00 / 1)

You keep saying that no one calling this a hit piece had read the whole article you linked to.  So I read the article.  Your diary is still a hit piece.  It is intentionally intellectual dishonesty.

You are asking people for their opinions on something that is cold hard math, i.e. there can be no opinion.  If you actually wanted to know the answer, you would check out data from the FEC.

I know I am fighting a lost cause here but I am still arguing which you means you actually got what you wanted.  congrats.


McCain = bad Obama = good
by CAchemist on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:53:49 PM EST

Re: I managed to read the whole article (none / 0)

if it is BS, then fine.  But it isn't a "hit" piece.  I asked for opinions on it and so far, you point me to the FEC, which I did look at.   However, the author does bring up a valid point, which is the loophole and points out that 7 of the top 14 Obama donors are shady folks.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:57:13 PM EST
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Re: I managed to read the whole article (none / 0)

Top donor in what sense?


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:51:41 PM EST
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If he does not take lobbyist or lobbyist bundler funding than where the heck did he get the 100+ million he had at the start of the primary season. Who are all those spouses of corporate employees in the FEC reports and why do they work for companies like the Carlyle Group?


by Iceblinkjm on Sun May 18, 2008 at 08:57:07 PM EST

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Exactly, and just as damning, his connection with BIG HOME IMPROVEMENT! I'm SUPER CEREAL, GUYS, WHY WON'T YOU LISTEN TO ME?!?!11


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:00:50 PM EST
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Okay, got it! (2.00 / 1)

So I checked out this website, www.blackagendareport.com a little bit more......

"House Slaves, Field Slaves, and the Obama Predicament"
http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.p hp?option=com_content&task=view& id=623&Itemid=1

And half of the stories on the front page are attacks on Senator Obama.

Yep, phenomenally source.  Read some of those stories.  Incredible.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:03:39 PM EST

Re: Okay, got it! (2.00 / 1)

and yet huffpo gets sited here and on kos as legit sources - look at their headlines attacking Senator Clinton.

what is the difference?


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:07:37 PM EST
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Re: Okay, got it! (2.00 / 2)

That would be the references to "house slaves" and "field slaves."

Wow.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:10:00 PM EST
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Re: Okay, got it! (none / 0)

and I've seen some pretty nasty headlines at huffpo as well.


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:13:30 PM EST
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Re: Okay, got it! (none / 0)

just to add on - that is a horrific headline.  But the author of that piece is NOT the same as the author of this piece.

so, based on the fact that huffpo has a lot of writers and headlines towards Hillary have been less than flattering, can we focus instead on this article and this author instead?


by colebiancardi on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:15:26 PM EST
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Re: Okay, got it! (none / 0)

No, we can't.  As best I can tell, this is a black power website.  They don't much care for Obama, and are pretty damned up-front about it there.

If the source is as biased as this one appears to be, and if their articles are as spun and editorialized as these, then no I'm not going to take it very seriously.

You managed to find a particularly angy and biased portion of the "afrosphere."


by Reaper0Bot0 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:19:56 PM EST
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Re: Okay, got it! (none / 0)

YOU wrote the DIARY and YOU PRESENTED this WEBSITE and ASKED what WE THINK....WE didn't mention HuffPo...Your true colors need a camouflage touch up..


A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin
by hootie4170 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 10:38:02 PM EST
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From Open Secrets (none / 0)

"Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers."

There is a difference, but then that would mean that you would have to look at the websites behind the website.


accepting McLettuce is like being 9 years old and forced to eat your own cooking
by Sychotic1 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:14:12 PM EST

Re: From Open Secrets (none / 0)

The bundling is not the problem but I am not the one crowing about lobbyists but taking money from their spouses. It's hypocrisy. Plain and simple. Clean up washington by removing the oversight. That's real smart. NOT.


by Iceblinkjm on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:22:23 PM EST
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I've never liked these sorts of diaries  - if contributors are employed somewhere, it doesn't mean the employer has anything to do with the contribution. That goes for Obama/Clinton.


by Falsehood on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:18:53 PM EST

Obama's Nonexistent Money Cartel (2.00 / 1)

Check out the About Us section on that website. One of the 4 principals is a former Black Panther. It is a very good thing they don't support Obama, or you'd be joining in with your other little friends about his supposed links to radicals.


by edg1 on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:22:32 PM EST

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The quote you cite provides no proof what so ever for it's specious claim. Yes, the people who contribute to Obama have jobs. What a shocker.

All of the industries that Americans work for have lobbies. Obama accepts no money from PACS or lobbyists, he does accept money from citizens with jobs. Getting donations from private citizens employed as bank security guards, tellers, and bank executives is not the same as getting money from financial lobbies.

Are you suggesting that he only accept contributions from unemployed Americans? You bring no research, no back up for your claims. The only thing you have to add is "look a black person wrote nasty stuff about Obama". Try a little harder next time.


by hankg on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:34:08 PM EST

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Another lame hit piece by your typical deadender.

yawn! Wake me up when this is over.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:42:43 PM EST

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The theory that he is taking money from wall street doesn't make much sense given how fond he is of talking about raising the capital gains tax, a position that is very unpopular, especially with those on WS.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Sun May 18, 2008 at 09:44:51 PM EST

Nice of you to voice your CONCERNs. /eom (none / 0)


No Way, No How, No McCain!
by GFORD on Mon May 19, 2008 at 10:39:07 AM EST


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